[15:45] <TeTeT> smoser: thanks for the review, I'll update the exercise later this week. I need mgmt approval but will most likely publish it during the cloud days organized by kim0. Hope you like that idea
[15:45] <smoser> cool. sure.
[15:45] <kim0> TeTeT: o/
[15:46] <kim0> How's that excercise gonna be used for the cloud days ?
[15:46] <TeTeT> smoser: I'm also about to rewrite uec-describe-cloud using python boto instead of popen euca-describe-*, should be nicer code then
[15:47] <TeTeT> kim0: I would plan for a 20-30 minute session that goes step by step through the process of creating an instance which is hosted on an EBS volume. I would love to have screen sharing for this, will check if we can use spreed for that
[15:47] <smoser> TeTeT, yeah, that'd be nice. and again, i apologize for dropping the ball on that.
[15:48] <smoser> TeTeT, most of that could be done via 'screen' screen sharing
[15:48] <smoser> graphical might look better, but you can very easily share a screen session , allowing viewers to be read-only
[15:48] <smoser> kirkland has used that before for these talks.
[15:49] <kirkland> TeTeT: see the source for the screenbin package/project
[15:49] <TeTeT> smoser: cool, I would have to host it on my own cloud as I doubt that IS would appreciate me giving outsider access to our virtual lab
[15:50]  * kim0 waves at active community members Daviey, smoser, kirkland, RoAkSoAx, soren .. and everyone around here
[15:50] <smoser> TeTeT, well, we could maybe work around that.
[15:50] <kim0> Rock the Ubuntu cloud world, and register a session at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays/ :)
[15:50] <kirkland> kim0: hi
[15:50] <kim0> kirkland: hey
[15:50] <smoser> maybe tunneling out of there... but yeah, that might get icky
[15:51] <TeTeT> kirkland: nice, so I could run it from ec2...
[15:51] <kim0> kirkland: looking forward to your session :)
[15:51] <TeTeT> smoser: maybe tunneling to servera on the training lab and using the cloud credentials would be good enough. so any attacker would still need the password for servera
[15:59] <kirkland> kim0: session?
[16:00] <kim0> kirkland: indeed .. check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays/
[16:00] <kim0> Everyone is invited to please contribute a session
[16:00] <kim0> The first ever Ubuntu Cloud Days
[16:00] <kim0> yaaaay :)
[16:45] <zul> kim0; have you asked the openstack guys about it?
[16:45] <kim0> I pinged soren about it .. I'll go write #openstack now .. thanks
[18:46] <Edulix> kim0: I've seen in  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuCloudDays/ that there's a reference to a "GaimHowto"
[18:46] <Edulix> welcome to the past? :P
[18:46] <kim0> Edulix: the wonders of copy/paste
[18:46]  * kim0 goes fixing ;)
[18:46] <Edulix> =)
[18:50] <kim0> Edulix: What about hosting a hadoop session
[18:50]  * kim0 awaits a yes
[18:50]  * Edulix takes a look at the dates
[18:56] <Edulix> kim0: what is exactly what is done in the sessions, they are some kind of irc tutorials?
[18:57] <kim0> Edulix: exactly
[18:57] <kim0> basic and easy stuff
[18:57] <kim0> 15 mins of talk time expanded in irc ;)
[18:57] <Edulix> that seems reasonable
[18:58] <Edulix> I'm not using ubuntu cloud currently though :P I can explain how to create a simple hadoop application. is there any example session log I can take a look at?
[19:02] <kim0> Edulix: if u want .. there's currently ubuntu developer week training running
[19:02] <kim0> join #ubuntu-classroom
[19:02] <kim0> to get a feel
[19:02] <kim0> #ubuntu-classroom-chat .. is where people will chat and ask questions
[19:02]  * Edulix has joined there
[19:02]  * kim0 afk for a bit
[22:11] <crazed> cloudinit is pretty damn awesome
[22:11] <crazed> now if other OSes would jsut port it
[22:20] <kim0> crazed: glad you're enjoying ubuntu ;)
[22:21] <crazed> it's the only os worth using on ec2 really
[22:22] <kim0> haha awesome :)
[22:23] <kim0> smoser is gonna like hearing that :)
[22:23] <crazed> windows takes like 30 mins to boot, worthless
[22:23] <crazed> centos has no official AMIs, and the rightscale ones are botched and gross
[22:24] <smoser> woot
[22:24] <erichammond> crazed: Amazon publishes a CentOS AMI under the name Amazon Linux, and they have included cloud-init from Ubuntu.
[22:24] <crazed> i thought so
[22:25] <crazed> but it's not actually centos, it's got up-to-date packages hehe
[22:25] <erichammond> :)
[22:26] <kim0> lol
[22:26]  * kim0 tweets that ;)
[22:26] <crazed> lol
[22:29] <crazed> cloudformation, chef, and cloudinit combined is pretty powerful
[22:29] <crazed> only problem i'm seeing is how to make sure certain parts of the stack are configured before scripts are run on other parts
[22:51] <crazed> is it possible to set arbitrary variables in the userdata that can be used in user scripts?
[22:52] <crazed> i'm trying to set JSON data that will be used by chef, rather than having teh userscript create it (which doesn't do well for reusing the same cloud-configs)
[22:52] <kim0> why not read from an external url
[22:52] <crazed> i plan on storing stuff that shouldn't be accessible from anywhere
[22:53] <crazed> i did think of that though.. it was a good idea until i was dealing with database paswords
[22:56] <crazed> hm.. could put them in a git repo i suppose and pull down over ssh