[14:23] ochosi: pidgin in the panel uses an envelope? Shouldn't this be changed to the pidgin bubble icon instead? It looks like it should open an email client now. [14:35] ochosi: removing session menu and adding action buttons fails to allow a restart on 64bit desktop live cd in a VBox [14:35] the live session went right back to GDM [14:35] charlie-tca: pidgin is part of the messaging menu, which is an indicator. thunderbird should also integrate there [14:35] right, so the restart-logout thing is more general, not session-menu specific (like mr_pouit suggested earlier) [14:36] are those icons fixed then? It is confusing to see the envelope, just to find out it is pidgin, not email [14:36] at least the restart thing on live session is not session-menu specific [14:37] the indicator-icons are fixed afaik [14:38] also: if you install an email-client that supports the messaging menu it will also show up there [14:38] (there's thunderbird extension that does that [14:38] ) [14:38] will it be a second envelope then for the email? [14:38] or xchat, empathy, etc. [14:38] no, in the same menu [14:38] no, in the same menu [14:38] lol [14:38] eh ;-) [14:38] I don't mind it showing up there, but an envelope? [14:38] I never think of chat when I see that, only email [14:39] well, ubuntu has been using this for a few releases now [14:39] but it has not been by default installation in the panel [14:39] i don't really have much of an opinion about the icon, i guess it could be improved [14:39] It really should be changed to the actual pidgin icon [14:39] in ubuntu: yes, in xubuntu: yes (now that we decided to include the indicators) [14:40] um, in Ubuntu, the envelope is the email, not the chat client [14:40] charlie-tca: changing it to the pidgin icon makes no sense, as all other messaging apps will also integrate in that menu/indicator [14:40] charlie-tca: no, in ubuntu it's the same, it's the same indicator [14:40] I will load a live cd and look again, but everytime I click the envelope in the panel in Ubuntu, it opens Evolution [14:41] rly? no dropdown? [14:41] really. [14:41] charlie-tca: look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MessagingMenu/ [14:41] it wants to have all the email account information [14:41] this is what the envelope-thingy is/does [14:42] maybe it is supposed to, does is stretching it [14:43] well, anyhow, if you install more apps that use the messaging menu, this is how it will look and this is what it's designed for [14:43] okay, I will take your word for it then. I will let it alone now [14:44] I am happy that I got a couple of images to work today [14:44] in fact i tried using thunderbird with the extension in xubuntu natty, it also shows up in the menu [14:44] both alternate images installed for Xubuntu today, first time in a week [14:44] (unfortunately the extension isn't included in ubuntu yet, so we can't install the support by default yet) [14:44] but it will show under the envelope with the other things, right? [14:44] yep [14:45] okay [14:45] nice to hear that images are working [14:45] I am going to try to get a hardware install, and will add all the crap there and see how it works then [14:46] sounds good! [14:46] thanks for explaining it to me [14:46] np :) [15:05] hardware installs are still failing completely [18:35] ochosi: you about? need to get you set up with an xubuntu.org account [19:00] pleia2: sry, got friends visiting, will you be about in an hour or so? [19:00] ochosi: I'm at work, but I should be around-ish, just pleia2: at me :) [19:02] pleia2: okeydokey :) [19:36] pleia2: ok, i'm ready to pleia2: at you [19:36] ok cool [19:36] ochosi: what would you like your username to be? [19:37] ochosi? [19:37] k [19:37] :) [19:37] email address? [19:38] ochosi@shimmerproject.org [20:09] we have new news :) http://xubuntu.org/node/42 [20:09] yay ochosi! [20:09] Yay! [20:09] can we forward that to UWN, too? [20:10] yea, but UWN hasn't published in a few weeks :\ [20:12] yeah, I know. but we gotta keep trying anyway [20:13] Reminder: Team Reports for February needs to be updated - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/TeamReports [20:14] i have to say that the content-part of the site still looks pretty good with the stuff at top [22:41] thanks pleia2 ! === pleia2_ is now known as pleia2