[13:45] apachelogger: The relevant meeting that's the best time to complain is tomorrow. [13:47] and then there's [13:47] but that's deprecated according to w3schools [13:47]

not working [13:47] surely there's a CSS way of doing it [13:48] oh yes you can easily do it in CSS [13:48] style="align: center" doesn't help [13:48] img.center { display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; } [13:49] hmm, it's fildered out [13:49] ^^ CSS [13:49] drupal doesn't like it [13:49] it'll have to remain where it is [13:49] aw [13:49] don't worry, treating "every day" as one word it worse than the alignment [13:50] haha :D [13:53] shadeslayer: shall I publish? [13:54] Quintasan, yofel ^^ ? [13:54] yofel: ^^ i suggest leaving ktorrent [14:07] Riddell: iirc kwin is still unsable ... [14:07] so that needs fixing first i guess [14:26] shadeslayer: I need to talk to mgraesslin about that (and yes leave ktorrent) - it uses system oxygen.so instead of our which doesn't match with our kwin3_oxygen.so [14:26] ah [14:26] at least that's what I believe it does by now since deleting system oxygen.so makes it work fine [14:27] * shadeslayer is looking at qtscriptcreator hell [14:27] s/creator/generator [14:28] the readme is missing stuff too [14:29] yofel: we don't set QTDIR in neon-env [14:29] http://paste.kde.org/6115 [14:30] meh that's from stable KDE >.< [14:32] hmm [14:41] well, let me try with QTDIR [14:41] wait... we do [14:42] er no, QT_PLUGIN_PATH, not QTDIR [14:43] ok, QTDIR *is* set to /opt/project-neon - so that's not it [14:43] yeah ... i was not in neon, i was in the stable env [15:10] tsk, who broke the wiki? [15:13] yofel, shadeslayer: KWin is not working in new packages, yes? [15:14] i haven't updated yet [15:14] waiting for my limit to get reset [15:14] Updating [15:14] shadeslayer: you are doing qtscriptgenerator? [15:14] i'm trying [15:14] had a chat with amarok guys [15:15] And? [15:15] well ... i could set LD_LIBRARY_PATH during qtscriptgenerator builds [15:16] and then this : http://paste.kde.org/6119 [15:20] Quintasan: so how about releasing neon without amarok for now? [15:20] I'm okay with this [15:20] I'm not going to delay stuff cause someone has to use some stupid magic [15:21] yeah [15:21] okay so only the kwin issue remains [15:21] Quintasan: i actually have to run one more command after qmake && make [15:21] to generate the headers etc === seiflotfy_ is now known as seiflotfy [15:43] ok so i need a example package which has commands like cd in its debian/rules file [15:43] any ideas which one to look at> [15:48] oh btw [15:49] Quintasan: i'm cheating a bit http://aur.archlinux.org/packages/qtscriptgenerator-git/PKGBUILD [15:49] does amarok really need qtscriptgenerator from git, can it not just use the packaged version? [15:50] shadeslayer: I call it copying, but IDC if it works [15:50] there is no packaged version :> [15:50] Riddell: Doesnt work with our packages, dunno why, fails to discover em [15:50] oh [15:50] OH [15:50] Quintasan: there is a packaged version? [15:51] apparently qtscript-* packages should be the result [15:51] but installing them doesnt work [15:51] yep [15:58] AHA [15:58] Quintasan: http://paste.kde.org/6120 [15:58] that's why [15:59] it's looking at the wrong place [15:59] :/ [16:00] uh [16:00] eh [16:00] yofel: do you have a additional install of qtscriptgenerator? [16:00] in /opt/project-neon [16:05] bah cmake -DQT_QTSCRIPT_INCLUDE_DIR:PATH=/usr/include/qt4/QtScript doesn't work too [16:24] oh great [16:24] my kvm machine got corrupted and I gotta reinstall it [16:29] heh [16:38] who knows if this is binary compatible? http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.6/kdenetwork/kopete/libkopete/kopeteaccountmanager.h?r1=1208598&r2=1219502 [16:39] so like .... any ideas where find_package( QtScriptQtBindings REQUIRED ) looks for the file that tells it where the qtscriptcreator bindings are? [16:39] shadeslayer: you need to look in FindQtScriptQtBindings.cmake [16:40] well what do you know [16:40] no FindQtScriptQtBindings.cmake [16:40] atleast not on yofel's thinkpad [16:40] hey guys, how can anyone join the team kubuntu-ninjas on LP? [16:41] !find FindQtScriptQtBindings.cmake [16:41] c2tarun: you just need to prove you know how to handle the power [16:41] Package/file FindQtScriptQtBindings.cmake does not exist in maverick [16:41] >.> [16:41] Riddell: what power? there is nothing about it on LP page :( [16:41] shadeslayer: amarok-2.4.0/cmake/modules/FindQtScriptQtBindings.cmake [16:41] ah [16:42] c2tarun: the power to help package KDE releases [16:42] Riddell: that is not binary compatible [16:42] and this is where i get lost trying to read the CMake Module [16:42] Riddell: hmm.... ok, so fixing ftbfs for KDE packages will work? [16:42] c2tarun: no, it's specificly for packaging the forthcoming releases, currently 4.6.1 [16:43] morning [16:43] see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging for the current status [16:43] bonjour hrw [16:44] c2tarun: if you want to help you might be able to steal kdeplasma-addons or kdeartwork off yofel [16:44] Riddell: i'll try :) [16:45] yofel: where are you with kdeplasma-addons or kdeartwork? [16:45] c2tarun: do you have a natty build environment? [16:46] does someone know why kmail started to crash on imap recently? [16:46] Riddell: yup [16:48] c2tarun: where's your ssh key? [16:48] Riddell: https://launchpad.net/~c2tarun [16:50] c2tarun: ssh ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org [16:50] in stable/4.6.1/src you'll find the tars [16:51] if you want to steal kdeplasma-addons or kdeartwork off yofel (at the risk that he's already done them and it would be duplicating the work) you can [16:51] you could also start on kdelibs for maverick [16:51] keep https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging up to date [16:52] Riddell: sorry to ask but what I am doing? I mean I am not getting what do you mean by stealing kdeplasma-addons? [16:53] c2tarun: yofel has marked himself as packaging kdeplasma-addons, but that was a while ago and he hasn't uploaded it so maybe he never started or never finished it [16:53] Riddell: ok, I got it :( [16:53] :) [16:54] sorr for wrong smily [17:00] Riddell: Is it possible to copy to tarball on my system and do the work? I mean nothing is installed on that system. (Or I am doing something wrong) [17:01] c2tarun: yes, that's the intention [17:01] scp ftpubuntu@ktown.kde.org:path/to/file . [17:02] so cmake/modules/bindingstest/QtScriptBindingsTest.cpp finds the bindings [17:02] Riddell: is something is wrong with the scp syntax? [17:03] c2tarun: how do you mean? [17:03] look at the terminal :/ I executed and got error. [17:04] Riddell: sorry got it :) [17:04] Riddell: nope didn't got it :( [17:04] Riddell: need help [17:05] *very* interesting http://paste.kde.org/6127 [17:05] Riddell: ^^ some help with that now :D [17:06] hrw: kmail hasn't been updated in weeks [17:07] shadeslayer: install libqtscript4-core ? [17:07] Riddell: ya its downloading now. :) I'll pack it soon [17:08] aha! [17:08] hmm [17:08] for some reason yofel's thinkpad does not have libqtscript_core.so in /opt/project-neon [17:19] Riddell: bug #725959 seems to be XInput 2.1 related [17:19] Launchpad bug 725959 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "libqt4 4:4.7.1-0ubuntu10, 11 and 12 produce segfault in VirtualBox (libqtgui4)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725959 [17:21] would Build-Depends-Indep: signify that the build depend after this line is a Arch independent package? [17:21] for eg Build-Depends-Indep: texinfo [17:22] debfx: ug [17:27] Riddell: it'll take some time, I have very slow internet connection and I have to download dependencies of worth 141MB i'll pack but just need some time. [17:27] c2tarun: I can set up an ec2 machine if you want [17:27] Riddell: wow... that'll be grt :) please [17:29] c2tarun: ssh ubuntu@ec2-50-17-34-207.compute-1.amazonaws.com [17:29] Riddell: I have it finished [17:29] both [17:30] Riddell: wow... he finished :/ is there anyother package? [17:31] why python-qt4 must be packaged by the way ? I mean the lastest version is not 4.8.3 ? [17:31] ok what next .. hmm .. [17:32] yofel: best upload then :) [17:32] was waiting for you to finish edu and workspace as I couldn't build it without that [17:32] (or I did not understand something...) [17:32] I'll upload anyway [17:33] bambee: it doesn't why do you think it does? [17:33] yofel: they're in now [17:34] Riddell: huh ? [17:35] Riddell: anything left for me? :/ [17:35] bambee: python-qt4 doesn't need to be packaged, we have the latest version in [17:35] c2tarun: all of maverick! [17:35] Riddell: ohh ok [17:36] Riddell: the ec2 machine is it maverick or natty? [17:36] c2tarun: it's natty [17:37] c2tarun: I can set up a maverick one [17:37] Riddell: sure :) [17:37] c2tarun: which package do you want to start with? how about kdetoys being super easy? [17:37] Riddell: ya sure :) [17:39] Riddell: on that ec2 machine I think someone did kdetoys. [17:40] yes I did kdetoys for natty on that one [17:40] eh [17:40] Riddell: ok, so I have to do for mav? [17:41] c2tarun: ssh ubuntu@ec2-50-16-53-139.compute-1.amazonaws.com [17:42] add the ninjas PPA I just msg'ed to you [17:42] that's the source for natty so you can apt-get source kdetoys from natty [17:42] then dch -i and add a ~maverick1~ppa1 version, set the release to maverick [17:43] you'll need to apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports too [17:43] then build it [17:53] ** alpha 3 candidate images needing testing! http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ [17:57] Riddell: been out of the loop, what's new in alpha3 from a2? [17:57] * claydoh thinks release notes [17:57] claydoh: bambee's all improved language selector, now a kcontrol module [17:57] claydoh: lots of bugs fixes in system-config-printer-kde [17:58] nice, is filesharing module in there too? [17:58] :) [17:58] claydoh: oh aye, working filesharing with samba thanks to rbelem [18:00] :-D [18:00] mhhh... images testing looks fun , why not :) [18:01] great, thanks bambee [18:01] you're welcome ;) [18:04] * c2tarun wow... it feels awesome to use a system with downloading speed 11MB/s (mine is 30 KB/s) ;( [18:04] ping Riddell [18:04] may i pm ? [18:05] c2tarun: yeah :D [18:05] tazz: yes [18:10] c2tarun: what are you working on? [18:10] yofel: kdetoys for maverick [18:10] c2tarun: mark that as taken then please https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging [18:11] yofel: how to mark that? [18:11] c2tarun: edit the wiki page and add your name like we did in the other columns [18:12] Riddell: does ninjas depend on backports? [18:13] hm, no [18:13] yofel: I cleared out ninjas, it was getting messy [18:13] * yofel goes copying packages [18:13] true [18:13] so there's probably some dependencies that should be copies over [18:15] Riddell: is there a reason why we have akonadi 1.4.90 in maverick? Or did we just forget that? [18:15] yofel: I think it was just forgotten [18:16] I'll backport 1.5 then [18:16] thanks [18:24] hmm system-config-printer-kde is broken in systemsettings? [18:26] mhhh indeed it just crashes here [18:26] the service 'printer Configuration' does not provide an interface 'KCModule'....bla bla [18:27] claydoh: try "kcmshell4 system-config-printer-kde" from a terminal => backtrace [18:27] waa [18:28] "importError" [18:28] which release? [18:28] authconn is unknow [18:28] oh I think pysmb and authconn isn't in the package [18:28] I fixed that with 4.6.1 in ninjas [18:28] ok great :) [18:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/574059/ [18:30] too slow I be :) [18:31] you'll need to grab them from the packaging and copy to /usr/share/kde4/apps/system-config-printer-kde/ for now [18:32] sigh [18:32] Riddell: the build still fails with the exact same error [18:32] even tho i have that lib installed now [18:36] claydoh: skaet_ asks can you go in and update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview for A3 [18:38] Riddell: sure [19:02] we should just remove all kde3 applications now, people are wasting their time fixing build errors in these packages ... [19:03] yeah [19:04] Debian's getting rid of all of them by next release, if I'm not mistaken. [19:04] yes [19:05] Riddell: there are already a bunch of removal requests in the archive admin queue [19:05] I'm doing those right now [19:06] i'll compile a list of the remaining packages [19:06] removals are slow to do, not scripted :( [19:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon/Issues :( [19:09] shadeslayer: qtscriptgenerator is evil [19:09] yeah [19:11] now to read up on DBus [19:11] Riddell: at least now the issue is well documented [19:12] instead of being : It doesn't work :< [19:12] Riddell: btw new rekonq alpha out [19:12] shadeslayer: you should convince the amarok team to get rid of qtscriptgenerator ;) [19:13] debfx: i'm swamped with stuff :P [19:13] shadeslayer: so I see [19:13] Riddell: raster graphics are ON by default now [19:13] something that we surely don't want ... as debfx advised [19:14] but ... there are some critical bugs that were fixed right after release .. so i'd say skip releasing this one into the archives [19:14] for eg kde bug 267316 [19:14] KDE bug 267316 in general "rekonq crashes when using shortcuts" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267316 [19:14] and kde bug 261003 [19:15] KDE bug 261003 in general "two blank separated words in location field make rekonq crash" [Crash,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261003 [19:15] shadeslayer: so wait for next alpha? [19:15] i'd advise so [19:15] who's all coming to Budapest? [19:15] shadeslayer: I don't understand why rekonq enables raster, either it works and should be enabled system-wide or it doesn't [19:15] * shadeslayer didn't even apply :P [19:16] bambee, rbelem, debfx, shadeslayer, yofel, Quintasan, claydoh, c2tarun, sponsorship form now open! http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/sponsorship/ [19:16] debfx: i have no idea, Andrea just enabled it in one commit and sent us a email later on [19:16] * yofel isn't coming [19:16] Riddell: i haz major exams [19:16] can't come [19:16] Riddell: :D [19:17] uds? Me?? [19:17] we need all the kubuntu people we can get! [19:17] Riddell: i'm thinking of coming to the Desktop SUmmit tho [19:17] *that* is something i can easily attend [19:18] * Riddell wanders out [19:19] cya [19:19] i'm out for a bit too [19:23] Riddell: what should I write in about yourself? I mean how can I check what I have uploaded or other stuffs? [19:23] c2tarun: look on your lp [19:23] there's a "related software and packages" link [19:23] aarfff 9-13 May I can't :'( [19:25] one more thing, as last date is 29march may be I can fix some more packages and mention them too? will it help? [19:26] maco: ^^ [19:26] couldnt hurt [19:27] maco: ok :) than i'll fill it later thanks a lot for telling [19:33] Riddell: I filled it just after jcastro announced it :) [19:34] yofel: How's KWin going? [19:34] no progress, was busy packaging [19:35] kk [19:42] what's a private ppa? [19:52] Running 64bit Natty , Kubuntu ppa. kubuntu-debug-installer-dbg is installed but when KDE Crash Handler itself crashes, says that debug libraries for drkonqi are not installed. Usually it is plasma crashing first, then the crash handler itself goes [19:52] c2tarun: a PPA that's only accessible by the Owner [19:55] yofel: ok, so on the page which contains the private ppa for kubuntu ninjas, which one should I add? === debfx_ is now known as debfx [19:55] genii-around: I'm getting a lot of plasma crashes too since yesterday - something from [19:55] #6 QETWidget::translateXI2Event (this=0x16b55c0, event=) at kernel/qapplication_x11.cpp:5250 [19:56] c2tarun: you mean to add the PPA to your sources? [19:56] Hm [19:56] yofel: yup [19:59] one more problem, few seconds back I got a mail (may be from the mailing list) that kdetoys build failed. But I just packed it and checked, it was building properly. Why so? [19:59] c2tarun: to get the correct link, you need to go to your profile - click on "View your private PPA subscriptions" - then on "View" and there you'll find the correct source lines [20:00] c2tarun: that package is for maverick, we don't have all build depends in the PPA yet, and you probably built it on natty [20:00] c2tarun: you need to follow https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/DependencyGraph when building, or things will fail [20:01] yofel: nope, I build it on maverick only. for natty it was build by Riddell === neversfelde_ is now known as neversfelde [20:02] c2tarun: you built in for maverick in a clean pbuilder? [20:02] yofel: ya, but I also added a private ppa on that machine, may be that ppa has all the dependencies. [20:03] no, it doesn't. At least not for maverick [20:04] and if you look at the buildlog: [20:04] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [20:04] kde-sc-dev-latest : Breaks: kdebase-workspace-dev (< 4:4.6.1) but 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu8 is to be installed [20:04] kdebase-workspace-dev : Depends: kdelibs5-dev (>= 4:4.5.1) but it is not going to be installed === ubuntu_ is now known as cpatrick08 [20:14] yofel: wtf, does plasma crash so much for you too? [20:15] yep, Riddell uploaded some XI2 patch in qt ubuntu12 which I installed just now, so I hope it helps [20:15] He has to be one of the busiest guys. His name is in almost every changelog I see [20:16] genii-around: Yeah, because we're all talk here a Riddell actually gets stuff done :P [20:17] Heh! [20:17] like with qtscriptgenerator [20:17] "We have to do this" [20:17] "BUT I DON'T WANT TO TOUCH IT T_T" [20:18] Well, I'm no better, after seeing make output I just headdesk'd and logged out :D [20:19] Crap, I should be doing my homework instead of wasting time here [20:19] There was a time when i did some programming, but not any more. Not since like Borland C version 3 or 4 [20:55] mhhh... how did you get back /var/log/syslog from a guest system without mount.vboxfs ? [20:55] s/did/do/ [20:55] bambee meant: "mhhh... how do you get back /var/log/syslog from a guest system without mount.vboxfs ?" [20:56] kubotu: xD [20:57] bambee: copy'n'paste :) [20:57] from a tty guest system ? [20:58] no [20:59] bambee: pastebinit /var/log/syslog [21:02] debfx: so I must add universe repositories (from kubuntu live cd) [21:03] bambee: universe isn't enabled by default? :O [21:03] nop [21:03] just main [21:03] that doesn't seem right [21:04] main and restricted [21:04] other are commented [21:08] however pastebinit is a good idea :) [22:06] Riddell: thanks for the removals [22:07] Hmm, where's bambee gone off to? [22:07] ~seen bambee [22:07] bambee was last seen 15 minutes and 15 seconds ago, quitting IRC (Remote host closed the connection) and a while before saying "however pastebinit is a good idea :)" in #kubuntu-devel [22:07] doh, just missed him [22:12] home/fs/release_mgmt/kannasaver-1.2/ [22:12] ^tarball fail [22:14] JontheEchidna: when you are uploading kde4 ports, remove the package from bug #727386 [22:14] Launchpad bug 727386 in Ubuntu "Please remove several kde3 packages (source and binary)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727386 [22:15] ok [22:15] lololol, kannasaver's kde3 package compat is 4 [22:16] :D [22:22] hmm, has tab completion for pbuilder broken for anyone else? [22:23] it was "fixed" [22:23] works fine if you use --build, but not for build [22:50] So if I don't want to annoy the guys at bugs.kde.org can I just copy the crash info from KDE Crash Handler and file it at launchpad instead? [22:52] ( or if it gets filed there as from a Kubuntu dist does it get shuffled along anyhow? ) [22:54] http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/415694-an-early-look-at-gnome-30 [22:54] when do we switch kubuntu to gnome3? [22:56] genii-around: if it's a crash, it's likely the guys at bugs.kde.org will want to know about it [22:57] software produced by the mighty empire of KDE does not crash! [22:57] s/crash/elegant non-success/ [22:57] tsimpson meant: "genii-around: if it's a elegant non-success, it's likely the guys at bugs.kde.org will want to know about it" [22:58] fail [22:58] genii-around: what crashed? [23:01] do we have packages for qtcreator 2.1 already? [23:02] !info qtcreator natty [23:02] qtcreator (source: qtcreator): lightweight integrated development environment (IDE) for Qt. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.0~rc1-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 10571 kB, installed size 30356 kB [23:02] :( [23:02] that makes apachelogger sad [23:02] hm... [23:03] apt-cache says 2.1.0-0ubuntu1 though... [23:03] stupid bot [23:04] well [23:04] I need maverick anyway ^^ [23:06] don't blame the bot if it's a few hours out of date [23:07] tsimpson: the bot could query launchpad ^^ [23:07] and by "a few", I mean less than 24, as it's a daily cron job [23:07] it could, but that would be work [23:07] and it'd break the debian part of it [23:07] good point [23:08] nvm :D [23:08] tsimpson: surely there is a way to ahve 2 plugins? [23:08] I mean, doing the plugin is probably the bigger problem :) [23:08] sure, but not 2 plugins with the same command [23:08] tsimpson: so it is a stupid bot :P [23:09] supybot maybe, but not my ubottu :) [23:09] well, surely it coudl also be done in one plugin, no? [23:10] it could have a list of ubuntu releases which it would check LP for, and use apt for debian/other distros [23:10] but that's hackety-hack [23:11] well [23:11] the bot is way too useful anyway [23:11] it needs a plugin for like ... random bad german punk music on youtube or something [23:12] or to quote confucius [23:12] someone, somewhere, will have undoubtedly made such a plugin [23:12] rbot surely got one :P :P :P [23:13] oh [23:13] don't tell anyone, but I'd like to ditch supybot for rbot one day too :) [23:13] and it needs a map plugin [23:13] ^^ [23:13] didnt someone want me to do that some time [23:14] one of them projects I never started ^^ [23:14] rbelem: map vienna, austria [23:14] oh [23:14] rbelem: sry [23:14] kubotu_: map vienna, austria [23:14] http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&q=vienna,+austria [23:14] kubotu_: what is with the suffix? [23:15] probably all the netsplits we had [23:15] rbot should autoswitch to the standard nick ever so often [23:15] no idea why it does not work [23:15] maybe I messed up the config ^^ [23:16] does it have nick protection on? [23:16]