[03:57] <hot_wheelz> hi guys
[03:58] <hot_wheelz> are there any ubuntu devs here?
[03:58] <lifeless> !ask
[03:59] <lifeless> !who
[03:59] <lifeless> bah
[03:59] <lifeless> hot_wheelz: there may be, but it shouldn't impact whatever you want to discuss
[04:00] <hot_wheelz> ok sure
[04:03] <hot_wheelz> i am wonder if what i am about to discribe is a bug or not...When installing the arduino ide it appear in 2 groups both programming and electronics shouldn't it only be craeted in one? 
[04:05] <hot_wheelz> can anyone confirm?
[04:07] <head_victim> hot_wheelz: what process are you using to install it?
[04:08] <hot_wheelz> synaptic why?
[04:08] <head_victim> Just going to see if I can reproduce it for you
[04:09] <hot_wheelz> ok i'm sure you will 
[04:09] <head_victim> I can't even find the package though
[04:10] <hot_wheelz> actully try getting the ubuntu team ppa first sorry
[04:13] <nisshh> hot_wheelz, you mean it appears under two categories?
[04:13] <hot_wheelz> any luck head_victim?
[04:20] <head_victim> Trying to find what ppa you mean sorry
[04:20] <head_victim> https://launchpad.net/~arduino-ubuntu-team/+archive/ppa   ?
[04:21] <hot_wheelz> head_victim yep
[04:23] <head_victim> I don't have an electronics after install that
[04:24] <head_victim> It only goes into programming for me.
[04:24] <hot_wheelz> one min
[04:28] <hot_wheelz> head_victim mmm..strange i removed it re added it to to see if it had been fixed but still put in two palces for me i wonder why?
[04:28] <hot_wheelz> head_victim any ideas
[04:28] <head_victim> Could be it's just populating existing fields, do you have other software in electronics?
[04:30] <hot_wheelz> nope it only appaers as a group after installing the arduino ide
[04:34] <hot_wheelz> head_victim any more ideas?
[04:34] <hot_wheelz> i would like to get to the bottom of it
[04:35] <elky> Perhaps ask the person who made the ppa?
[04:36] <hot_wheelz> will do
[04:37] <head_victim> Sorry had a phone call, yeah I'd be asking the maintainers.
[04:44] <hot_wheelz> thanks guys
[05:49] <kaushal> hi
[05:49] <kaushal> is there a way to create a installer which installs apache2,mysql and php and all the dependencies ?
[05:57] <nisshh> kaushal, uhm, sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql php
[05:57] <nisshh> its easier than trying to create some weird installer
[06:18] <firtvid20> Hey, anyone get Minecraft working on Ubuntu
[06:18] <firtvid20> cause it crashed on mine
[06:18] <firtvid20> And never works
[06:19]  * firtvid20 moves onto ubuntu channel instead
[06:30] <firtvid20> me wonders who is online
[09:37] <blahdeblah> anyone know how to set proxy for KDE3 apps on lucid?
[09:53] <blahdeblah> For those who care, the answer was: edit ~/.kde/share/config/kioslaverc
[15:51] <remmius> hey
[15:54] <head_victim> Good morning
[15:56] <remmius> thought this chat channel might come in handy :P
[15:57] <head_victim> Ah ok, well this is the home of the Ubuntu-AU team and we use this channel for all official business (meetings, support, organising events, etc) and we socialise and hang out in #ubuntu-au-chat (Just so you know). So what can we do for you this fine morning?
[15:58] <remmius> ah wow, this is actually the official ubuntu irc? 
[15:59] <remmius> i thought it was just an enthusiasts channel
[15:59] <remmius> im here for linux help :p but not now, ive finished for the night
[15:59] <remmius> so basically im in the wrong place, maybe
[15:59] <remmius> hehe
[15:59] <head_victim> Ah good to see, no we're in the right place
[15:59] <head_victim> :)
[15:59] <head_victim> So were you after help or going to offer some?
[15:59] <remmius> nah, thats all good, i just wanted a place to go incase of trouble
[16:00] <remmius> wanted to check out if people were friendly or not ;)
[16:00] <head_victim> Ah well we're here if you need us. There is also the main support channel at #ubuntu and if you're too concerned about asking "noob" questions in there there is also #ubuntu-beginners if you feel that's better for you.
[16:00] <remmius> sweet as i'll keep both in mind
[16:01] <head_victim> You should check out our mailing list and wiki :)
[16:01] <remmius> i'm not totally dumb, i am just new at it
[16:01] <remmius> and ive sorta thrown myself into the deep end with hosting a live webserver for a small community group
[16:01] <remmius> trying to do it all myself to learn a bit here and there
[16:01] <head_victim> Hah sometimes I wonder about my intelligence when it comes to Ubuntu but it's all learning.
[16:01] <remmius> yeah, exactly
[16:01] <remmius> i understand more now than i did when i started so im getting somewhere
[16:02] <remmius> im struggling with getting a mailserver setup actually
[16:02] <head_victim> Yeah I keep getting into things and then running out of time.
[16:02] <remmius> it seems by default theres some sendmail-mta service running
[16:02] <remmius> on this image at least
[16:02] <remmius> its 9.04 or 9.10 ubuntu
[16:02] <head_victim> Ah that's still on my "to do list" that is about 10 pages long.
[16:02] <remmius> hehe
[16:02] <remmius> its all good
[16:03] <remmius> i just need to find the right resource and read enough to understand how it actually all pieces together
[16:03] <remmius> and what ports i need forwarded and stuff
[16:03] <head_victim> There is also wiki.ubuntu.com and help.ubuntu.com and ubuntuforums.org :)
[16:03] <remmius> then i'll be able to do it
[16:03] <remmius> i just dont get how you are supposed to serve multiple vhosts from the same ip from aliased nameservers
[16:03] <remmius> if you get what i mean
[16:03] <remmius> nameservers/mailservers
[16:04] <head_victim> Yeah I understand the concept but not really able to help you much unfortunately.
[16:04] <remmius> not a problem :)
[16:04] <remmius> ill keep googling
[16:04] <head_victim> You could try the mailing list (assuming no one else is going to chip in? Anyone else awake?) or try those 3 links. If you're using a specific program to run you might even find an official channel for it to ask in.
[16:05] <remmius> well i'll be around
[16:05] <remmius> im sure i'll fire off some other most likely stupid questions
[16:05] <head_victim> I'm always here just not always "here" :)
[16:06] <head_victim> The only stupid question is the one that is never asked. 
[16:06] <remmius> hehe