[00:31] chrisccoulson, did you want a review of the patch? [00:31] mterry_, if you don't mind ;) [00:32] chrisccoulson, link me [00:32] mterry_, https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/dbusmenu/lp723873/+merge/51648 [00:39] chrisccoulson, seems fine. and it works? [00:40] mterry_, yeah, it's working ok here [00:40] the message filters item in thunderbird is active again :) [00:41] chrisccoulson, that's all I needed to hear. ;) [00:41] chrisccoulson, oh, I can't actually approve in LP [00:41] chrisccoulson, were you going to distro-patch it? [00:42] mterry_, yeah, i can do [00:45] pitti, (re sponsor bug #718805) yes, please, and thanks for doing it [00:45] Launchpad bug 718805 in libcanberra "[Natty] system-ready and login sounds do not play" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/718805 [00:59] kenvandine_: the old default u1ms patch is removed in my change. my patch wasn't getting applied? [00:59] grr [01:58] TheMuso, hi [01:58] TheMuso, I was looking at the accessible description stuff for nm-applet [01:59] cyphermox: Yes. [01:59] it's great for the indicator stuff, but how can I add the description to each of the menu items ? [01:59] cyphermox: Unfortunately that will require work in libdbusmenu, which has not been done yet. That will have to be a project for next cycle. [02:00] ah, I see. so I wasn't just hallucinating stuff when I thought there was no good way ;) [02:00] No you weren't. [02:01] thanks [02:02] TheMuso, I'm not overly familiar with how all of this works... do you get the name of the icon at this point? [02:05] cyphermox: No, you simply send through a textual description of what the icon represents, i.e number of bars for wireless strenght, whether the ocnnection is wired, etc. The icon name is not used at all in teh code dealing with accessible descriptions. [02:05] If it had to deal with icon names, then things would get messy rather quick. [02:06] ah [02:07] TheMuso, atm at least in nm-applet the icon for wireless items and all should be very close to the current status of the connection [02:09] Right. [02:09] * TheMuso -> lunch. === doko_ is now known as doko === oubiwann` is now known as oubiwann === asac_ is now known as asac [02:44] do recent versions of evolution come with pre-configured settings for popular webmail services like gmail, hotmail, yahoo, etc.? [02:44] checking on lucid/maverick says "no" [02:58] achiang, there are *some* settings, I've seen them in the code [02:59] dobey, you have quilt problems i think [02:59] also [02:59] you need to add a gconf-defaults file [02:59] like rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store has [02:59] look in the debian dir [02:59] cyphermox: interesting, i'll look harder [03:00] achiang, I'll point you where I mean if you give me a minute ;) [03:00] cyphermox: great, thanks === kenvandine_ is now known as kenvandine [03:03] achiang, http://git.gnome.org/browse/evolution/tree/capplet/settings/mail-autoconfig [03:04] cyphermox: ta! [03:06] kenvandine: no, the gconf-defaults isn't necessary [03:06] oh right [03:06] that stuff changed [03:06] kenvandine: i have no idea what is up with the quilt crack though :( [03:06] humm, even with your patch applied it isn't getting registered right [03:09] kenvandine: maybe banshee isn't triggering update-desktop-whatever right? [03:09] must be [03:09] not sure why though [03:10] if you re-run update-desktop-database by hand does it work? [03:10] i can look at it for you tomorrow if you need a hand, i gotta finish something else right now [03:10] i'll try [03:10] yeah i think we'll have to poke at it tomorrow. i'm about to head off to sleep in a bit anyway [03:11] nope [03:11] sudo update-desktop-database /usr/share/applications/ [03:11] no joy [03:12] and it is u1ms:// [03:12] right? [03:12] has to be... no idea [03:12] this is weird [03:20] yes [03:20] weird [06:47] x/c === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:17] Good morning [07:18] morning [07:47] good morning [07:55] bonjour didrocks [07:55] hey pitti [08:03] huhu mvo [08:04] hey glatzor, wie gehts? [08:04] mvo, using lintian to check packages before installing seems to have some corner cases. [08:04] pitti, quite busy - like always. but the rest is ok :) and yourself? back in dresden? [08:04] glatzor: yes, since end of Jan already === warp11 is now known as warp10 [08:05] pitti, have you learned any Bavarian slang words? [08:05] do your neighbors still understand you :) [08:06] glatzor: not a lot really -- I've just been there for three weeks in total, and most of which at my wife's home :) [08:06] glatzor: yeah, I stumbled over the bug the other day [08:06] pitti, in aptdaemon I use lintian to check local packages before installing, since there seem to be really a lot of broken packages around [08:07] glatzor: it looks like its best to select only a subset of the tests - or we just add more code to python-apt [08:07] pitti, so is there a chance that lintian will make it to the default installation? furhtermore there are some linitian checks that we could ignore (e.g. no copyright file, files in opt) [08:07] Morning all! [08:09] hi mvo [08:11] mvo which tests would you like to add to python-apt? [08:12] glatzor: some stuff like missing packagename in control, missing arch, missing version is dead-simple [08:13] hey Sweetshark [08:13] glatzor: its worth going over the list and checking, some stuff we definitely want to allow is use of non FHS (/opt is encouraged for third party stuff) [08:13] glatzor: well, I need to fight for every MB on the CD :) [08:32] pitti: kakadu gracefully denies me entry. Anything special needed to get access to the porter machines? [08:32] Sweetshark: what's kakadu? armel porter box? [08:32] hm, works here [08:33] ssh porter-armel.canonical.com [08:33] pitti: yep. same for davis (PPC) [08:33] Sweetshark: does ssh porter-i386.canonical.com work? [08:33] ah [08:33] pitti@kakadu:~$ id bjoern [08:33] id: bjoern: No such user [08:33] Sweetshark: I'm afraid that needs an RT ticket [08:34] k [08:37] meh, can remember my password. :/ [08:40] Sweetshark: password? you aren't supposed to have one [08:40] for ssh [08:41] for RT [08:45] Sweetshark: it's sent via email [08:56] hey [08:56] bonjour seb128 [08:56] pitti, hey pitti, meeting reminder day ;-) [08:57] ah :) [08:57] * pitti still wrestling with CD builds, will do ASAP [09:00] morning [09:03] hey rodrigo_ [09:03] hi seb128 [09:04] rodrigo_, how are you? [09:05] seb128, I'm fine, and you? [09:05] hey rodrigo_ [09:05] hi pitti [09:06] rodrigo_, I'm fine thanks [09:07] does anybody has a clue if bug #726880 would be easy to fix? [09:07] Launchpad bug 726880 in gnome-utils "Screenshot taken befor application fades away" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726880 [09:08] it's nothing new but one of those bugs which doesn't give a first nice impression [09:18] pitti: hi; not-so-shameful plug for a pending FFE request: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/683688 for your consideration [09:18] Launchpad bug 683688 in unity-2d "Touch window management gesture previews" [Medium,Confirmed] [09:19] pitti: didrocks has the changes ready for the last image update [09:19] (not ready as "now" but as "coming in the next 2 hours :)) [09:20] hey didrocks [09:20] morning rodrigo_ [09:20] didrocks, have we patched gnome-session for the unity startup, or are we just using a gdm session? [09:21] didrocks, I'm trying to see if upgrading to gnome3's gnome-session might break it [09:21] rodrigo_: we have patched it [09:21] ok [09:21] rodrigo_: some pieces or from the gnome3's one [09:22] rodrigo_: but we get some diff, I separated that in another patch called "enhance…# [09:22] ok [09:22] rodrigo_: this is for the fallback mecanism [09:24] didrocks, debian/patches/00_new_session_configuration_system.patch is the backport from 2.91.*, right? [09:25] rodrigo_: right, but they changed it slightely in the latest commits and it's incompatible with ours, so better to check [09:25] ok [09:28] pitti, did you ask for bug #726889 to be assigned to you? [09:28] Launchpad bug 726889 in gconf2 "gsettings-data-convert crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726889 [09:28] seb128: no, it just happened [09:29] pitti, could we ask qa to stop doing that? [09:29] I tried to retrace it in a chroot, but the binary doesn't match the core for some reason [09:29] it should have been assigned to c-d-t [09:29] pitti, it's a duplicate and it's harmeless out of the apport noise [09:29] pitti, do you mind if I unassign it from you and close it as duplicate it as it should? [09:30] seb128: I'd love you forever if you did [09:30] ;-) [09:30] (not that I wouldn't already..) [09:50] rodrigo_, bug #93234 is assigned to you for now, it's low priority but would be one of those thing nice to fix since they are easily noticable for new users [09:50] Launchpad bug 93234 in gnome-utils "gnome-screenshot should not take a screenie of itself" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/93234 [09:50] seb128, ok [09:53] smspillaz, ^ quick question about that, would it be possible to tell compiz to not do an animation on gnome-screenshot to fix that issue? [09:53] seb128: yes [09:53] smspillaz, the issue is that gnome-screenshot takes the screenshot when you click but it often grab the screen before compiz is done with the animation [09:53] dbarth_: lookign (sorry, had to wrestle with image builds until now) [09:54] smspillaz, would that be the right way to fix it you think? === chaotic_ is now known as chaotic [09:58] seb128: add & !(class=gnome-screenshot) to the end of the first line of "close animation" in the animations plugin [10:00] good morningeveryone [10:01] smspillaz, thanks [10:01] rodrigo_, ok, I'm reassigning this bug to compiz and didrocks then, ignore me [10:02] seb128: just copy the IRC dialog from there [10:02] pitti, is now an ok time for some uploads which will not break installabily (telepathy-logger and gsettings-desktop-schemas) [10:02] that will be fine :) [10:02] didrocks, ok thanks [10:02] seb128: as usual, just be careful, but it's ok [10:02] hey chrisccoulson, how are you? [10:02] hey chrisccoulson, good morning [10:02] great work fixing some libdbusmenu issues [10:03] pitti, right, I was just checking if now was not an ok time for some reason [10:03] hey seb128/pitti, i'm good thanks [10:03] we got permission to ship the globalmenu-extension for firefox btw ;) [10:04] seb128, ok :) [10:06] pitti: ok thanks [10:10] pitti - can you approve feature freeze exceptions? :) [10:10] bug 727068 ;) [10:10] Launchpad bug 727068 in firefox "FFe: shipping globalmenu-extension by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727068 [10:10] chrisccoulson: yes; ooh, did we get it from mozilla now? [10:11] pitti - yeah. jasoncwarner did some whip-cracking yesterday ;) [10:11] niiice [10:11] chrisccoulson: no reason for a separate bug, I'll dup it to the existing noe [10:11] "one" [10:12] chrisccoulson: done [10:13] pitti - thanks :) [10:13] done [10:14] pitti - excellent, thanks :) [10:14] pitti: hey, can we discuss on bug #683688 ? [10:14] Launchpad bug 683688 in unity-2d "Touch window management gesture previews" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/683688 [10:14] pitti: so, we are about doing the unity release (just testing a lot now) [10:15] hey didrocks [10:15] pitti: this is merged in trunk in some days and picking it out will take some time [10:15] the feature isn't enabled by default [10:15] which means, [10:15] the plugin is [10:15] but the keybinding not affected [10:16] didrocks: you mean "this will be merged in some days" or "it was merged some days ago"? [10:16] it was merged some days ago [10:17] so, moving it out now is kind of ackward if we want the other fixes as discussed yesterday on #ubuntu-release [10:17] didrocks: why would you want to move it out? [10:18] pitti: because yesterday, we planned on #ubuntu-release that if we get enough testing this morning, the unity upload will be acked for alpha3 [10:18] dbarth_: ^^ [10:18] ah, I missed that [10:18] so if someone else already ack'ed it then, please go ahead [10:18] and the whole team is testing trunk right now :) [10:18] ok, thanks a lot :) [10:18] but NB that we are currently building a3 candidates, so it's not guaranteed that it'll make it [10:19] hum… not sure Riddel follow the discussion yesterday [10:22] jibel, did you have any chance to test if today's issue fix the svg issue? [10:24] pitti: do you need something else for unity [10:24] dbarth__: just discussed in #u-release with didrocks, we'll sort it out [10:24] pitti: ie, a list of fixes that we're still proposing to go into the a3 images [10:25] ah sorry, need to log there [10:25] dbarth__: np; I didn't see yesterday's conversation in #u-r where it already got discussed and approved [10:26] seb128, it was fixed with yesterday evening isos [10:26] jibel: \o/ [10:26] jibel: thanks for confirming [10:27] seb128, thanks for fixing :-) [10:27] \o/ great! [10:27] that was a fun thing to untangle [10:28] pitti, yeah, 'fun' ;-) [10:32] seb128, but this morning I get the gsettings-data-convert error on login and a fresh install [10:32] pitti, btw the shotwell guys rolled a 0.8.90, beta for the new serie 0.9 which is planned for natty [10:32] jibel: right, I just debugged that locally, will upload a fix in a bit [10:32] seb128: does it have tag searching at last? :-) [10:33] seb128: do you want me to do the update? or do you ask because of FF? [10:34] pitti, well first I was asking because of the ff and a3 [10:34] do you think we should try to get it in or after a3? [10:34] after a3 [10:34] pitti, btw do you know if robert_ancell is ok? [10:35] let's not stack up too much churn at the same time [10:35] pitti, ok, usually he does the shotwell updates [10:36] the plan for the yorba to roll their tarball yesterday and him to do the update during his day so it will be in by now [10:40] I'm getting compiz segfaults without unity. is there a preferred procedure for getting a meaningful backtrace? [10:40] it's all ready to go after alpha 3 now - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/firefox/firefox-4.0.head/revision/805 :-) [10:40] tjaalton, use apport and report a bug [10:40] seb128: it doesn't trigger apport [10:40] tjaalton, are you sure it's a crash? [10:40] it should trigger apport [10:41] well the window decorations vanish, but I can still change windows/workspace [10:41] ok, it's a decorator crash [10:41] did you upgrade today? [10:41] yes [10:41] the most frequent crasher has been fixed yesterday [10:42] tjaalton, well run unity-window-decorator in gdb [10:42] to get a stacktrace [10:42] yeah I noticed that one, but didn't think I was using the same with the classic desktop [10:43] but I see it's running, so will attach gdb to it [10:43] not sure if classic use gtk-window-decorator or the unity one [10:43] didrocks, ^ [10:43] tjaalton, smspillaz is working on fixing another crash which happens when you force close a dialog [10:43] u-w-d is running here after doing a 'compiz --replace' [10:43] so it's probably using it [10:44] right [10:44] seb128: u-w-d is used everywhere [10:45] chrisccoulson: whee! [10:47] (gedit:12812): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: (../../libdbusmenu-glib/menuitem.c:1760):dbusmenu_menuitem_property_is_default: code should not be reached [10:47] that seems buggy [10:50] seb128 - want me to investigate? [10:50] chrisccoulson, if you want that would be nice [10:50] chrisccoulson, EDITOR=gedit dch -i [10:50] in any source [10:51] yeah, i see that too [10:59] seb128 - ok, that's caused by my patch yesterday, but the warning is harmless [11:00] it's a side effect of signalling when a property is removed now [11:01] ok [11:01] thanks for checking [11:01] i'll fix that in the branch i proposed for merging [11:02] still would be nice to drop the warning if it doesn't make sense [11:02] great [11:10] rodrigo_, do you co-maintain gsettings-desktop-schemas upstream? i.e can you commit directly or do you need approval to do it? [11:13] seb128, I don't maintain it, but I can commit [11:13] seb128, what you want to commit? [11:14] rodrigo_, the [org.gnome.desktop.default-applications.browser] section in schemas/gsettings-desktop-schemas.convert [11:14] rodrigo_, the key has been dropped from the schemas and that makes gsettings-data-conversion abort, see bug #725785 [11:14] Launchpad bug 725785 in gsettings-desktop-schemas "GSettings Data Conversion crashes on login" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725785 [11:15] "GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.desktop.default-applications.browser' is not installed" [11:16] yes, right [11:16] rodrigo_, I can open a bug upstream with the diff if you prefer [11:16] seb128, no need to, I'll just commit it [11:16] rodrigo_, thanks [11:17] rodrigo_, I've uploaded the debdiff I copied to natty for now [11:19] chrisccoulson, the libdbusmenu fix you did this night is not enough [11:19] seb128 - oh? are there still other issues? [11:20] chrisccoulson, in the gnome-bt case, if you turn it off and on again the devices menus are still empty [11:20] they don't get repopulated [11:20] hmmm, i hadn't noticed that [11:20] do you have any bt device configured? [11:20] can you try? [11:20] i'll investigate that too. that might be a separate issue from the one i fixed last ngiht [11:21] yeah, i can recreate that here too [11:21] seb128, http://git.gnome.org/browse/gsettings-desktop-schemas/commit/?id=ed64b3168fd93df5f137de34c26323eb4abcef47 [11:21] rodrigo_, thanks! [11:23] seb128, that's the same you uploaded to natty right? [11:23] rodrigo_, yes [11:23] ok then, all set :) [11:41] seb128 - the bluetooth-applet broke with the same commit mentioned in bug 723873 didn't it? [11:41] Launchpad bug 723873 in libdbusmenu "indicator menu items missing since the recent natty update" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723873 [12:04] dbarth__, didrocks: btw, nice to have win+shortcut back! [12:06] pitti: heh, there are some enhancement as well coming for that in few minutes :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:14] didrocks: hm, I just created a fresh 'test' user and logged in; I got unity with an additional gnome panel at the bottom, is that intended? [12:14] login also took very long (10 seconds or so, normal is 1.5) [12:15] pitti: hum, no, it's not, I bet that the tester timeouted [12:15] pitti: can you look in ~/.xsession-errors [12:15] pitti: you should have a warning on gnome-session [12:15] telling you are fallbacking [12:18] didrocks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/573901/ [12:18] pitti: and you are in the unity session, isn't it? [12:19] didrocks: I have unity, anyway [12:19] oh wait… [12:19] * didrocks checks something [12:19] didrocks: it's a fresh user, so I guess I am, yes [12:20] pitti: env | grep GDMSESSION [12:20] didrocks: sorry, $GDMSESSION = gnome-classic [12:20] just checked the same [12:20] yeah [12:20] it's my fault [12:20] weird, gdm should default to unity [12:20] grrr for changes at 11PM [12:20] I need to upload compiz [12:20] didrocks: for gnome-classic, why do I see unity then? [12:20] ah, you got it already? good [12:20] stupid issue :/ [12:20] and stupid me [12:21] * pitti hugs didrocks [12:21] * didrocks hugs pitti back [12:21] it's not Friday isn't it? :-) /me needs a week-end I guess ;) [12:22] I think I saw a bug about it, wait [12:38] seb128, ok, this fixes the warning in gedit: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chrisccoulson/dbusmenu/lp723873/revision/242 [12:39] i just removed it ;) [12:39] (well, sort of) [12:57] hmm, the gnome-*-themes packages in the gnome3 ppa are failing because of a missing dependency on gtk3-engines-dev, but I see all gtk3-engines packages are gone [13:04] hey pitti - gtimelog in gi mode gives me a exception on get report for a previous day http://paste.ubuntu.com/573918/ - should I revert the force gi patch? [13:05] mvo: I'd much rather just fix it properly [13:05] mvo: mind creating a bug and assign it to me? I'll sort it out with upstream then, too [13:06] pitti: I have a quick look now [13:06] looks like an easy fix, wrong number of arguments [13:07] pitti: in C you pass int pointers, how is that done in gi ? [13:07] mvo: you don't [13:07] usually that's for out arguments, which are just annotated properly [13:08] mvo: ah, is that a GTK method, not a gtimelog one? [13:08] pitti: right, so the calendar is probably not anotated [13:08] pitti: yeah [13:08] mvo: or wrongly annotated, presumably [13:08] mvo: I'm happy to fix this [13:08] * mvo nods [13:08] cool, I file a bug [13:08] but I'd like to test it with gtk3 as well, and fix it right upstream, etc. [13:09] thanks mvo [13:11] pitti: bug #727158 [13:11] Launchpad bug 727158 in gtimelog "get_date() fails in gtk introspection" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727158 [13:11] mvo: thanks [13:13] hum, after installing today's update, I have 2 icons for the network manager [13:13] (hello everyone!) [13:15] chrisccoulson, ok, thanks [13:16] rodrigo_, does those themes still work with gtk or should they be dropped? [13:16] nessita, hey, try restart your session, it's not a new issue seems to happen randomly to some users with random indicators === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:17] hey seb128, thanks [13:17] chrisccoulson, right, gnome-bt broke with that commit [13:18] njpatel: guess what! :-) I installed all updates (just now) and rebooted. And I still can't type in the Search box in the dash, nor I can scroll using the mouse wheel in it [13:19] nessita, we haven't released yet, sorry :) [13:19] didrocks, bug #726862 [13:19] Launchpad bug 726862 in unity "unity launchs itself on the classic desktop" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726862 [13:19] didrocks, you asked the bug number about the classic session issue [13:19] njpatel: ah! is ok, I'll keep testing :-) [13:20] seb128: yeah, already uploaded, I knew there was one :-) [13:20] seb128: can you fix released it, please? [13:21] * didrocks looks for "start" and "classic", it seems that launchpad wasn't kind with me :) [13:22] didrocks, ok [13:22] didrocks, it was on unity and not compiz [13:22] seb128: yeah, I look on both, but prefered to not spent to much time on this [13:23] didrocks, no worry [13:23] thanks for pointing it :) [13:24] didrocks, yw [13:48] re [13:49] rodrigo_, does the preferred application capplet has a custom value entry in gcc3? [14:06] pitti, thanks for reviewing my ffe for network-manager [14:06] pitti, I'd have another for nm-applet, if you have time: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/727179 [14:06] Launchpad bug 727179 in network-manager-applet "FFE: network-manager-applet 0.8.4~git.20110228t141430.abba62f-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,New] [14:07] cyphermox: will have a look [14:07] thanks [14:08] was the other one okay? I didn't have much prior exposure to requesting FFe's :) [14:08] yeah [14:09] cyphermox: are there any new features in it? just looks like bug fixes [14:10] it's just bug fixes, but a snapshot from upstream. I take one wasn't needed in this case [14:10] right [14:11] well, sorry for the trouble ;) [14:13] seb128 - ok, i think i see the issue with bluetooth-applet too [14:13] just about to test a patch for that [14:16] chrisccoulson, oh nice, and tedg is back so you can get things reviewed ;-) [14:17] chrisccoulson, Cool! [14:24] chrisccoulson, do you think your appmenu-gtk fix which is pending review is worth trying to get in today? [14:24] seb128 - yeah, that would be good to get in. it makes empathy work :) [14:24] can you upload? [14:24] yeah, i think so [14:24] ok, so feel free to do it ;-) [14:24] it might solve the pidgin case as well [14:25] yeah, i should think so, although i didn't test that [14:25] * chrisccoulson installs pidgin [14:27] seb128, yeah, it works for pidgin too [14:27] if you close the buddy list and reopen it from the indicator it's not in the indicator-appmenu [14:27] great [14:28] seb128 - and my patch for dbusmenu also fixes the bluetooth-applet case :) \o/ [14:28] excellent! [14:28] * chrisccoulson is on a roll this week! [14:28] hi all, is there any way of checking if a given package is in the CD? [14:28] you can maybe try to sneak that with the warning fix in ;-) [14:29] * pitti ^5s chrisccoulson, go go go! [14:29] nessita, check the manifest on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [14:29] chrisccoulson: is that bug 720895? [14:29] Launchpad bug 720895 in libdbusmenu "bluetooth-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_builder_add_value()" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/720895 [14:30]