[00:00] Yeah. lp:python-fstab will be just the code, not the debian packaging. [00:01] raof: In this way I cannot test the package with bzr bd -- -S ... and I cannot use debcommit [00:02] if i'm right debcommit makes some changes at changelog...so I imagine is for this that I cannot use it [00:03] That would be correct, yes. You'll need to use plain “bzr commit”. [00:05] i didn't use it...and when I push the code to my lp I get a warning message [00:05] *used [00:06] What's the warning message? [00:06] ...Uncommitted changes will not be pushed. [00:06] all the msg was "Working tree "/home/andrea/Ubuntu/bugsFixing/python-round2/python-fstab/" has uncommitted changes (See bzr status). Uncommitted changes will not be pushed." [00:06] Ah, right. [00:07] but bzr status show me that the script was modified [00:07] Yes, you'll need to use ‘bzr commit’ to commit those changes. That's one of the things that debcommit does. [00:08] bzr status is showing you what's changed since the last commit, and bzr push only pushes commits. [00:09] Should add a link to my branch in the bug report? [00:10] If you want to. It's not particularly important one way or the other. [00:10] If you “bzr commit --fixes=lp:$THE_BUG_NUMBER” then launchpad will automatically link the branch. [00:10] Again, not particularly important one way or the other. [00:14] tumbleweed: I think tht [00:14] that at this moment easier is use syncpackage instead manually making request sync. [00:14] why? [00:24] Laney: because that my opinion/. === ari-tczew changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Archive: feature freeze | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://bit.ly/fz6AyQ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/bugs/rcbugs/ | Congrats to new DMB members: Laney, maco | New MOTU: kklimonda === MTecknology is now known as billmeye === billmeye is now known as MTecknolgoy === MTecknolgoy is now known as MTecknology === jmarsden_ is now known as jmarsden === MTecknology is now known as pfSensory === pfSensory is now known as MTecknology [04:42] Hey, anyone up for reviewing l2tp-ipsec-vpn? It's a little applet to configure and manage L2TP IPsec VPN connections. I've just uploaded a new candidate to fix all problems about which micahg and mok0 complained. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/l2tp-ipsec-vpn [07:14] Rhonda: poke? [08:01] good morning === warp11 is now known as warp10 [08:29] nigelbabu: peek? [08:29] Rhonda: PM? :) [08:32] Peter Moosleitners interessantes Magazin? [08:33] Rhonda: haha, Can I PM you? [08:34] Sure [09:26] bdrung, geser: poke (re u-d-t launchpadlib 1.9 branch) [09:26] Can anyone please tell me how to forward a patch to debian? [09:26] c2tarun: you could go to Rhonda's talk on the subject, tonight :) [09:27] c2tarun: submittodebian is a good start. Have you used Debian's BTS before? [09:28] tumbleweed: nope, its my first time, I was about to upload a patch on bug 726405, artur wrote in comment to forward it to debian. [09:28] Launchpad bug 726405 in kbarcode (Ubuntu) "package kbarcode_2.0.7-3 failed to build from source" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726405 [09:28] c2tarun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/Bugs [09:30] \o/ [09:30] tumbleweed: and what about the bug number I should include in closes (please look at the last comment) [09:33] c2tarun: I sometimes do that, but as long as the Debian bug is linked from the Ubuntu one, that should be enough [09:33] c2tarun: You'll receive a notification of your submitted bugreport which gives you the number of the bug [09:34] c2tarun: whoah, that patch. Should you not be using -lkio instead of /usr/lib/libkio.so.4 (for example) [09:35] tumbleweed: yup, i'll upload a new copy within few minutes, that includes -lkio [09:35] c2tarun: same for the others [09:35] tumbleweed: but I dont know what to write in Bug-Debian tag in patch header. [09:36] oh, artur told you that [09:36] Wasn't -lkio part of what ari suggested? [09:36] c2tarun: as Rhonda said, you'll get a- enmail [09:37] tumbleweed: so it means that first I have to submit it to debian, than I'll get a bug number then I'll enclose that number and submit debdiff to LP? [09:37] c2tarun: sounds good [09:37] Hey, anyone up for reviewing l2tp-ipsec-vpn? It's a little applet to configure and manage L2TP IPsec VPN connections. I've just uploaded a new candidate to fix all problems about which micahg and mok0 complained. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/l2tp-ipsec-vpn [09:37] tumbleweed: thanks :) [09:37] c2tarun: also submit debdiff to the Debian bug, and tag it patch [09:37] Rhonda: sure [09:38] c2tarun: Please check wether there is a Debian bug about it already, so you don't open a duplicate. [09:38] Rhonda: how to do that? googling? [09:38] http://bugs.debian.org/packagename [09:39] So http://bugs.debian.org/kbarcode in this case. [09:39] Gladly there seem to be only 6 open bugs there currently, so it should be easy to check :) [09:40] Rhonda: yup :) there is no FTBFS bug in there [09:41] c2tarun: for bonus points, usertag it no-add-needed http://wiki.debian.org/ToolChain/DSOLinking#Notresolvingsymbolsinindirectdependentsharedlibraries [09:42] Don't overflow him with information which makes him explode. :) [09:42] heh [09:42] tumbleweed: I read that page, BTWwhat do you mean by usertag? [09:44] c2tarun: The debian bug tracker has two types of tags, official tags, and usertags https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Debian/Usertagging [09:44] sbeattie: Btw., this is totally strange. I have the patch file sitting properly in debian/patches, but dpkg-source -b doesn't like to pick it up. Do you know if there is some filename specific exclude or such anywhere? [09:44] submittodebian will usertag the bug, to say that the bug came from an Ubuntu developer [09:44] there's also a usertag for the kind of issue that you are fixing. Unfortunatly you can't easily set both while you are filing the bug [09:44] s/easily/at all/ [09:45] c2tarun: so maybe ignore that bit for now :) [09:49] I don't buy that "at all" :) [09:49] Rhonda: how do you set usertags for two different users during submission? [09:50] Ah, different users? That wasn't clear to me, why are different users used? [09:50] well what should I choose the severity? [09:50] Leave it as normal, it doesn't FTBFS in Debian (yet) [09:50] Rhonda: submittodebian will usertag bugs to say they came from Ubuntu [09:51] I thought that change did happen in Debian already [09:51] it's certainly been announced a couple of days ago [09:51] What should I write in report? I never wrote one. [09:52] c2tarun: but yes, you shouldn't filea bug in debian saying a package FTBFSs, unless you've tried to build that package on Debian [09:52] gnangnanga. sbeattie, I know why dpkg-source didn't pick up the patch. You named it gitolite-.patch, and my -i.git does exclude that (otherwise it would pull in the .git directory itself too, which obviously fails) [09:53] tumbleweed: then what should I write there "FTBFS in ubuntu or on natty machine"? [09:53] * c2tarun I cannot try on debian, I dont have debian chroot [09:53] c2tarun: FTBFS with ld --no-copy-dt-needed-entries [09:54] and yes, say on Ubuntu natty [09:55] tumbleweed: what should I write in report section and in the section that tell "In ubuntu, the attached patch was applied to achive the following:" [10:00] I get this error while submitting to debian :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/573861/ [10:01] c2tarun: I've checked. it does FTBFS in Debian, you can make the bug grave, if you want :) http://people.ubuntu.com/~stefanor/kbarcode_amd64_sid.log [10:01] c2tarun: you have an unconfigured postfix on your system [10:03] tumbleweed: what do you mean by make the bug grave? :/ [10:03] http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities [10:04] tumbleweed: well I am getting only four here, I'll choose important than [10:05] c2tarun: there should be a special category for FTBFS [10:06] the reason you are only seeing 4 is that reportbug has multiple modes. It defaults to "novice" [10:06] tumbleweed: dont know :( I am getting only four and a message of saying something about novice mode [10:06] tumbleweed: yup exactly [10:07] that protects you from doing things that would make people shout at you :) [10:08] tumbleweed: ok, I am getting this error on my system as well as on chroot, how to configure postfix? [10:09] c2tarun: as to the sending issue, you could try putting "smtphost bugs-master.debian.org" in your .reportbug.conf, to totally bypass your local postfix [10:09] where is this file .reportbug.conf? in home folder? [10:09] Rhonda: what do we normally recommend for people running into this? [10:09] morning [10:10] c2tarun: yes [10:11] the reportbug.conf manpage says "smtphost localhost" will use an internal MTA. That might be a good option [10:11] tumbleweed: Why to bypass the local postfix instead to configuring it? [10:12] tumbleweed: I am installing sendmail right now. should I add "smtphost bugs-master.debian.org" in my .repor* file? [10:12] please don't choose sendmail, for your own good! [10:12] Rhonda: then what? [10:13] What's wrong with your postfix? [10:13] ssmtp is also a quite cheap option. [10:13] ah, unconfigured. [10:13] Rhonda: actually I am not familiar with any of it :( [10:13] Rhonda: the reason I didn't go into configuring it is that it may not be trivial [10:14] It's a *lot* easier and a *lot* less painful to configure your postfix instead of sendmail, trust me. :) [10:14] many ISPs block outgoing SMTP, and many people block mail from DSL IP-ranges [10:14] Anyway, using smtphost in ~/.reportbugrc is a very good choice. [10:15] c2tarun: if you know your ISPs SMTP relay, you should configure your postfix to mail out through that. You could also use gmail's SMTP service, etc. [10:15] Personally I have configured my local postfix to use a smarthost with smtp authentication. [10:15] That way it doesn't matter where I am, my mail always goes out properly. :) [10:16] what just happened :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/573865/ I thought to give sendmail a try. What is Tarun [10:17] c2tarun: sendmail is horrible. Seriously, avoid it. [10:17] c2tarun: check /etc/mailname and output of "hostname -f" [10:17] /usr/sbin/sendmail is not necessarily sendmail, though [10:17] tumbleweed: pong [10:18] geser: I followed your suggestions [10:18] tumbleweed: Ah, for that part, set DEBEMAIL environment variable. :) [10:18] Rhonda: output of hostname -f is tarun-kubuntu and there is no file with mailname in /etc [10:21] I have DEBEMAIL env variable set. :/ [10:21] Rhonda: ^^ [10:23] Guys my laptop is about to discharge :( I'll come back when electricity will come , Sorry [10:33] Rhonda: ping [10:33] c2tarun: where do you live? [10:34] bdrung: India. Why? [10:35] Can anyone help me in configuring postfix? [10:35] because i can imaging how it would be to have no stable electricity supply [10:37] bdrung: I am also from India :) [10:37] bdrung: it feels awful :( [10:38] and solar energy is too expensive, right? [10:38] need help with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/573874/ [10:38] bdrung: yup. [10:39] bdrung: even battery backups come at quite a cost here [10:40] do you have laptops for this reason or a desktop with battery backup? [10:41] bdrung: I do have both but with only a 2 hr backup [10:42] bdrung: laptops are portable :) and for students they are best [10:47] raof: I'm sorry...was sufficient look into the branch to see that nothing was committed [10:47] bdrung: something I changed in u-d-t is breaking pylint on natty [10:47] raof: Anyway the Julian's message says "This branch is abandoned. Debian does not have this package anymore, and I don't know what it's needed for in Ubuntu anymore." [10:47] tumbleweed: do you refer to http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65093854/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.ubuntu-dev-tools_0.118~daily%2Bbzr1031~natty1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ? [10:48] aah, I didn't see that [10:48] I only saw it locally [10:49] ok, good to know it wasn't a local change [10:49] anyway, I've let pylint skip if it fails, in the launchpadlib-1.9 branch [10:49] tumbleweed: can you please help me in configuring postfix? [10:49] raof: I imagine you are in vacation now :) [10:49] I'm going to land the thing and upload if there are no nobjections. It's not tested as thoroughly as it could be, butit's better than the status quo [10:50] c2tarun: dpkg-reconfigure postfix [10:50] tumbleweed: let me have a look at it. [10:50] bdrung: thanks [10:51] tumbleweed: can you check if we need to bump the version of launchpadlib? [10:51] bdrung: it still works on my wheezy box [10:52] I've avoidid making changes that'll actually cause trouble with older launchpadlibs (such as passing the program's name to launchpadlib instead of "ubuntu-dev-tools" everywhere) [10:53] tumbleweed: how can i check whether it is configured and configured correctly? [10:54] c2tarun: use the mail command to send yourself an e-mail [10:54] see if you get it [10:56] raof: Anyway I re-committed the changes and re-pushed the branch and now should be correct... [10:56] I am curious how this report should be handle now. I hope to see you tomorrow (in your next 8 hours :) ) [10:56] tks for your help [10:56] tumbleweed: maybe we should adjust the name later, e.g. "ubuntu-dev-tools " [10:56] yeah, that's what I'm thinking [11:05] tumbleweed: what network block should I give while configuring postfix? [11:06] c2tarun: you don't want other machines using your postfix, I suggest just 127.0.0.0/8 [11:07] tumbleweed: this is the default text in there 127.0.0.0/8 192.168.0.0/24 [::1]/128 [fe80::%eth1]/64___, should I change it to what you said? [11:07] leave it as is [11:08] oh, maybe remove the last one [11:08] tumbleweed: by last one you mean from [:: [11:08] [fe80::%eth1]/64___ [11:09] oh, and 192.168.0.0/24 [11:09] you only want 127.0.0.0/8 and [::1]/128 [11:09] sorry, not paying enough attention :) [11:09] tumbleweed: np :) [11:19] Hey, anyone up for reviewing l2tp-ipsec-vpn? It's a little applet to configure and manage L2TP IPsec VPN connections. I've just uploaded a new candidate to fix all problems about which micahg and mok0 complained. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/l2tp-ipsec-vpn [11:26] don't know how but my terminal is using nano by default as text editor while submittodebian. How can I change it to vi? [11:28] c2tarun: export EDITOR=vi [11:34] I was trying to submit a patch to debian, when I was doing it few hours back there was no FTBFS bug listed there but now I am able to see this bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=554936 its very old bug with FTBFS. What should I do now? [11:35] c2tarun: Is it related, the same cause? [11:35] Rhonda: don't think so, the error log is different than mine. [11:36] Then that's fine. If it's different issues, seperate bugreports are absolutely fine. [11:44] what is bin/dash? [11:45] c2tarun: a shell [11:47] tumbleweed: I configured postfix properly and checked. still I am getting this at the end "Tarun " why so? [11:47] c2tarun: you exported DEBEMAIL? [11:48] oh, postfix won't let you provide your own domain part, via /sbin/sendmail [11:48] smtphost 127.0.0.1 should get around that [11:48] tumbleweed: shit, I exported that in chroot and I was on my system. :( [11:50] c2tarun: I recomennd putting DEBEMAIL in yoru .bashrc [11:53] tumbleweed: done :) and submitted again, waiting for email now. [11:57] tumbleweed: I: ubuntu-dev-tools: debian-news-entry-uses-asterisk === zul__ is now known as zul [12:15] tumbleweed: bug 727127 [12:15] Launchpad bug 727127 in pylint (Ubuntu) "pylint crashed with AttributeError in visit(): 'TreeRebuilder' object has no attribute 'visit_set'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727127 [12:16] tumbleweed: would it be useful to split the pylint call into separate calls for each script? [12:22] bdrung: aah, thanks [12:27] bdrung: splitting it would probably be very expensive. It's already very slow. It still works on sid, so I'm happy for now [12:27] k [12:34] hah, bdrung. do you feel attached to audacious? [12:38] Rhonda: a little bit [12:38] why? [12:38] If you join my session tonight you might pick up a todo list. ;) [12:52] Rhonda: why? [12:52] audacious is in sync with debian [12:57] Just wait, I don't want you to destroy my examples. :P [13:01] bdrung: ok, I'll fix NEWS and upload [13:02] yes [13:10] tumbleweed: you forgot to tag the release [13:10] bdrung: just hadn't got there yet :) === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === menesis1 is now known as menesis [15:02] what is the difference between motu and "contributing developers"? [15:02] MOTU can upload, UCD can not [15:02] contributing developers need sponsors for uploads [15:02] (at least, not from their UCD status) [15:02] Laney: Are you around tonight? ;) [15:03] hrm... so what's the difference between ucd and my current status ( just bugcontrol )? [15:03] Rhonda: No sorry, I've got a meal for a friend's leaving [15:03] Rhonda: is it your session? :-) === RainCT_ is now known as RainCT [15:03] psusi: UCD gives you Ubuntu membership [15:03] because I get sponsorship for plenty of fixes now ;) [15:03] ohh... so basically it means I get an @ubuntu.com email? [15:04] And voting right, yes. [15:04] !membership [15:04] Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [15:04] And possibility to add your blog to planet ubuntu [15:04] that stuff [15:05] I've been reading it, which is why I was a bit confused on what ucd is... last time I read this I don't think that was there, just motu... think I finally need to become a motu so reviewing the process [15:05] Laney: PPU get membership automatically, right? [15:05] Yep [15:05] PPUs get added to ubuntu-dev, which I think gives membership [15:06] ok [15:06] PPU? does that mean you can now get upload rights for a specific package in main without being a core developer? [15:07] I think UCD is meant as intermediate state to give contributors sooner membership option and through that motivae them to contribute more. Something like that. :) [15:07] It's about recognising that someone has made a “significant and sustained” contribution, and that their contributions are through development work. [15:08] psusi: That's been that case since PPU's came into existence. [15:08] oh neat [15:09] when did that get added? [15:09] Actually I still need to apply for PPU for logcheck %-) [15:10] * Rhonda . o O ( and irssi ) [15:22] psusi: As I said: That's been the case since PPU's were invented. [15:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek day 2 starting in 25 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom [15:37] tnanks dholbach [15:37] :-D === s1aden is now known as sladen [15:54] ok, I think I did this right.. can I get a review? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhillipSusi/DeveloperApplication === zul__ is now known as zul [16:01] psusi: are you a Debian Developer? [16:02] Rhonda: doh, sorry about that. [16:04] ari-tczew: nope [16:04] psusi: why are you going to join MOTU right now? what are your plans as MOTU? [16:05] ari-tczew: well, like I mentioned in the app, I'd like to get the defrag package back into the archive, and of course, continue fixing bugs in other areas I usually work on [16:06] psusi: maybe PPU for particular packages is better way? [16:06] sbeattie: Not your fault, but it took me a lot of thoughts and time to figure it out %-) [16:06] ari-tczew: well I was thinking of asking for a few PPUs on top of motu [16:07] but figured I'd start with motu and see where we go from there [16:07] psusi: so please start work on MOTU stuff [16:08] psusi: are you familiar with merging with Debian? [16:08] ari-tczew: I think so... these days it seems to be mostly down to a bzr merge from the debian branch right? [16:09] psusi: merging with Debian is usually by debdiffs, check merge-o-matic [16:09] !mom [16:09] MoM is the Ubuntu Merge-O-Matic, a website helping the MOTUs keep Ubuntu in sync with Debian. See https://merges.ubuntu.com/ [16:09] you can merge using the UDD bzr branches as well [16:09] I thoguht that was the old way, and the new UDD way was with bzr merge? [16:09] psusi: it can be [16:09] as I wrote: usually [16:10] ok... I like the new ways better ;) [16:10] psusi: don't you think that 8 uploads is too small to get full universe upload access? [16:11] I didn't... I mean, I've been working on things for years now and am starting to feel confidant that I've got it down now after a number of successful sponsored uploads, so... figured the next step was motu [16:12] well, it's not just about quantity. quality of work matters too, and you can't just assume quality if there is quantity [16:12] ari-tczew: Don't you think that's something for the membership board to judge? [16:12] chrisccoulson: IMO quantity means the level of expierence. [16:12] ari-tczew, not really [16:12] Sheer quantity is a very back ruler [16:13] ari-tczew: IMO it doesn't. [16:13] Rhonda: this is MOTU channel, psusi is asking here so I'm answering my opinion. can't I? [16:13] if somebody does 100 very simple trivial merges, it does't demonstrate much experience [16:13] ari-tczew, They're just sharing their opinion too :) [16:13] ari-tczew: Sure you can, but like said, the amount of uploads is just a number and doesn't say much. [16:13] ok last question. [16:14] psusi: are you Canonical employee? [16:14] And if you like to book that rule of expressing opinions, so can others. [16:14] ari-tczew: nope [16:14] chrisccoulson: what kind of merges or fixes necessary for good experience? [16:14] oh! I'm suprised [16:14] you are? [16:14] yes [16:14] if I were, I'd be a core-devl wouldn't I? ;) [16:14] not necessarily, i'm not a core-dev ;) [16:14] though Keybuck did tell me I should apply once... [16:14] psusi: yes, Canonical staff like to join directly core-dev [16:15] I'll get there eventually most likely [16:15] ari-tczew, that's just not true i'm afraid [16:15] psusi: well, I've been disagreed here. Let's complete endorsements from your sponsors. [16:16] canonical employees go through the same process as everybody else [16:16] (on wiki page) [16:17] Sure, but just because they go through the same process doesn't mean that they can't apply directly to core-dev :) [16:17] so the page is complete and correct so far? [16:18] indeed :) but the same also applies to people who aren't employed by canonical ;) [16:18] It's all a matter of the quality and visibility of the contributions, not the quantity. [16:18] psusi: Things I could do better and Plans for the future are empty [16:19] I have no number at hands of how few sync requests I did send before I applied for MOTU, but I doubt that they were very many. [16:19] psusi: and of course there is not any endorse, you have to ask your sponsors [16:20] right... that's next step [16:21] It's not surprising that people who work on main all day every day end up asking for upload rights to it... [16:21] Rhonda, chrisccoulson: well, I mean that if someone works often on bugs, there is no point to give full upload access [16:21] sorry, no often [16:22] rarely, I mean [16:22] Actually, bugs have to get applied eventually. Having to look for sponsors all the time, when one fixes the bugs, can be quite tedious and depressing.# [16:22] of course, the bug *fixes* have to get applied, not the bugs. %-) [16:23] ari-tczew, i spend a lot of time on bugs, shouldn't i have upload access? :/ [16:23] chrisccoulson: typo, I mean rarely working bugs, no often [16:23] ah, ok. thanks for clarifying [16:23] np [16:24] Rhonda, chrisccoulson: don't you agree with my opinion? [16:25] What kind of bugs are good to work on for good experience? [16:25] I've been pretty happy lately with the new udd branch linking and merging, and patch pilot program... been getting sponsorship quickly and easily. [16:26] been such a smooth process I figure I must be doing it right ;) [16:26] c2tarun: it's not straightforward to tell what you should do to get expierence. every person is another. [16:26] ari-tczew, usually not. Where did you pick up that "rarely" from? [16:26] used to be a pita though... [16:27] ari-tczew: And if your opinion is the one of quantity over quality, I couldn't disagree any stronger with. [16:27] Rhonda: https://launchpad.net/~psusi/+uploaded-packages [16:27] Rhonda: uploads twice a year [16:28] does it need to get upload access? [16:28] Depends, and again (for the last time) not judgable only by that quantity marks. [16:28] Please try to be less demotivating. [16:28] hrm... I don't think that list is complete... [16:29] Rhonda: I'm not going to demotivate. [16:29] Rhonda: psusi asked for feedback, he got it. [16:29] That might very well be, but you come across like that. [16:30] ari-tczew, add smiley faces to your messages. :) [16:30] Ampelbein: I'm trying ot have the packaging remove /etc/logrotate.d/nginx-{full,light,extras}. Things install fine; but the file doesn't go away. Packaging that I'm testing with.. http://tinyurl.com/ngx-pkg-testing [16:30] Rhonda: sorry, I won't lie. [16:30] ari-tczew, I don't think Rhonda was asking you to. :) [16:30] Noone ask that. [16:31] Rhonda: go send message to community council that I say my opinion, because it's demotivating! [16:31] sigh [16:32] sorry, simple joke [16:32] ari-tczew, Not funny. [16:32] ari-tczew, :( [16:32] yea, there's definitely a few kernel patches missing from that list [16:32] I wonder how you come down that road, and if you like to wave that flag around all the time, it isn't helping you in any way. [16:32] Rhonda: I don't care. [16:33] I won't lie to keep CoC. [16:33] can anyone please help me with this error. http://paste.ubuntu.com/574005/ [16:33] Again, noone asks you to lie. All that is asked to be less demotivating and more encouraging to others. [16:34] Rhonda: OK I'll do it just for YOU! [16:34] psusi: It's very very great that you are involved with making Ubuntu better! [16:34] MTecknology: I'll have a look now. [16:34] psusi: However, I guess it's too early to get full upload access for universe. [16:35] psusi: I encourage you to do something else for universe. [16:35] such as? [16:35] ari-tczew, I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic but that approach is much better! +1 :) [16:35] ari-tczew: You shouldn't do it for me, you should do it for yourself and for the community. [16:36] c2tarun: the lib order is wrong, -latom4 and -lxatom4 have to be the first libraries [16:36] psusi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU#MOTU%20Processes [16:37] c2tarun: like that: ... -L/usr/X11R6/lib -latom4 -lxatom4 -lt++ -lpanel -lncurses -lX11 -lXpm [16:37] Ampelbein: thanks; I'm really fumbling around [16:38] debfx: ok, it worked. Can you please help me in finding the file in which I should make change in order to fix this bug? I tried but failed, there are no Makefiles here [16:39] c2tarun: if you tell me which package it is :) [16:39] debfx: sure :) its atom4 [16:39] I had done a merge of lvm2 but before it got reviewed and sponsored, someone else did the same... that was a hairy one... [16:40] debfx: how do you check which library is missing if got error undefined reference? [16:43] ari-tczew: usually either ld tells you which library is missing or the order is wrong [16:45] debfx: in one package it told that to add /usr/lib/libkio.so.4 , it worked but on adding lkio also it worked? what's the diff [16:46] Ampelbein: to test.. I do this... debchroot sid sid; chroot sid; aptitude install nginx-full; echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/nginx/package-testing/ubuntu lucid main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list; aptitude update; aptitude full-upgrade That file 'should' be gone. === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [16:47] c2tarun: in the file Construct you need to change this line: $LIBS = "$PROGLIB $NCURSESLIB $X11LIB -latom4 -lxatom4"; [16:48] debfx: two questions, one I asked few seconds ago and other is how you find this Construct file? [16:49] c2tarun: you should use -lkio, it's more generic [16:50] c2tarun: I've just searched for "x11" in the package files [16:50] MTecknology: yeah, I have a similar setup for testing. [16:51] Ampelbein: the 0.8.54-3 in the last version is what's in sid right now === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [17:28] Ampelbein: you see anything? [17:28] MTecknology: ok.. I don't know why, but putting 0.8.54-4 as version argument to dpkg-maint-helper works [17:28] MTecknology: but from the wording of the man page, it shouldn't [17:28] MTecknology: because -3 was the last version to ship that configfile [17:29] MTecknology: http://paste.ubuntu.com/574034/ [17:29] Ampelbein: it's that simple?... [17:30] wow [17:30] MTecknology: apparently yes. [17:30] I'll build and try it.. [18:03] Ampelbein: hm... it still exists for me.. [18:04] Ampelbein: http://dpaste.com/462477/ [18:05] Line 51 is where it should be moved.. [18:09] Ampelbein: what did you use as a base install? [18:09] sid, 11.04, ? [18:14] MTecknology: I used a sid-pbuilder environment (pbuilder-dist sid login) [18:16] Ampelbein: did you first install nginx; then do the upgrade to my packaged version? [18:31] Daviey: good point on kbarcode sponsorship [18:34] ari-tczew, But it's exploded in my face... :) [18:34] Ampelbein: here's a pastebin of the whole process I took with the undesired result.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/574062/ [18:35] ari-tczew, Someone beat me to uploading it by 10 mins... after i successfully dput'd, i pushed to lp:ubuntu/kbarcode... :/ [18:35] Daviey: can't you just use dput? [18:36] branch should be imported automatically [18:36] ari-tczew, yes - but trying to maintain bzr history and get UDD ready :) [18:37] <-- food [18:39] I wish I could just toss a simple 'rm /etc/logrotate.d/nginx-*' in nginx-common.postinst... [18:39]