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marjopatrickmw: thx; please tell us what image you end up sanity testing00:02
patrickmwmarjo, is there somewhere we can designate who is testing an iso since the tracker isn't available?00:03
patrickmwI will make a google speadsheet.  It will help. expect a link soon iso testers :)00:06
marjopatrickmw: thx; here's what i have so far:00:09
patrickmwmarjo, charlie-tca, bdmurray, pedro, jibel, hggdh: see spreadsheet https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AkkrMAUWCfU3dEF3NnhjV0FmTlF4Rkx2enBnSmgtZmc&hl=en&authkey=COrY55AB00:12
patrickmwI have started it00:12
patrickmwplease follow the convention to add an iso you are testing00:13
bdmurraydude where's my server? ;-)00:13
patrickmwthank you (note, everyone has write access, please be mindful)00:13
patrickmwbdmurray, did I miss a category?00:14
bdmurraypatrickmw: server maybe?00:15
patrickmwbdmurray: add it... like this :)00:15
bdmurrayI'm not testing it - I was trying to make a joke and here you are ruining it00:15
patrickmwah I see00:15
patrickmwat a time like this?00:16
charlie-tcahm, farther along here than I been in a week. things are looking up :-)00:16
bdmurraymarjo: I ran into the gsettings-data-convert issue you saw00:31
marjobdmurray: ack00:33
patrickmwmarjo: please review the isos I've added to the doc.  do you think that is enough for now. I expect we will do the full test cycle on Thurs?00:38
hggdhand hudson kicked in with the server images00:39
charlie-tcaUbuntu-alternate-amd64 installed on hardware with multiple partitions and drives00:40
bdmurrayalso if anybody sees any visual corruption in any menus or drop downs see bug 72680700:40
ubot4Launchpad bug 726807 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "drawing of drop down boxes produces artifacts temporarily (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72680700:40
hggdhcharlie-tca: perfect! All hail cjwatson :-)00:51
charlie-tcamarjo: want me to grab the kubuntu 64bit? It will take longer, since it is a full download00:51
charlie-tcasyncing kubuntu alternate 1md6401:01
marjocharlie-tca ok thx01:18
charlie-tcaanyway, trying to. My super fast 2.8KBs connection is maxed out01:18
marjocharlie-tca, patrickmw: which image should i do next? k-d-i386?01:33
patrickmwmarjo, I think that's a good idea, need more testing on kubuntu01:34
patrickmwwhat's the bug id for gsettings dialog error?01:36
patrickmwmarjo, bdmurray: did some one write up a bug on the gsettings data conversion error?01:38
marjopatrickmw: i can't find the k-desktop-i386, so i'm doing k-dvd-i386 instead01:38
marjopatrickmw: i don't have a bug number for the gsettings data conversion error01:39
marjopatrickmw, bdmurray: according to pitti:01:39
marjo" we already have a stack trace there, which is about as much as we can get remotely01:40
marjo I think we need to find a reproducer how to make it crash in a running session, so that we can dissect it01:40
marjo I tried, but I haven't been able to crash it"01:40
patrickmwwell, when I run gsettings-data-convert it crashes. is that not good enough?01:41
patrickmwbdmurray: bug 726889?01:42
ubot4Launchpad bug 726889 in gconf2 (Ubuntu) "gsettings-data-convert crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall() (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72688901:42
marjopatrickmw: yes that's one bdmurray submitted, but not the one pitti knows about01:46
charlie-tcaI am not seeing kubuntu desktop images yet02:04
charlie-tcahm, okay, I take it back. They are there now, dated 2011-03-0102:21
marjobdmurray, patrickmw, charlie-tca, hggdh: according to skaet, the current set of results is sufficient for sanity testing02:23
marjoplease finish up your current tests and then knock off02:23
charlie-tcaGreat! We start in tomorrow with the ISO testing, right?02:23
patrickmwmarjo, ack02:24
marjoplease make sure any bugs you encountered are marked high,  and targetted into the right teams/developers.  We might be able to get patches for them.02:24
patrickmwcharlie-tca: Last I was told we start Thursday (but that info is from last week)02:24
charlie-tcaI thought we had the alpha3 due out thursday02:25
marjobdmurray, patrickmw, charlie-tca, hggdh ^^^02:25
patrickmwmarjo, input?02:25
marjocharlie-tca: ack02:25
charlie-tcaby the way, I just inherited an Acer Aspire 5315 64bit laptop with 1GB ram. Will be able to use it for testing02:26
patrickmwwas there a QA meeting last Tuesday? I don't see the minutes02:29
skaet_charlie-tca, marjo, patrickmw, hggdh, bdmurray - thank you for doing the sniff testing today!    The release candidate images will be showing up off the daily builders tonight, should get loaded into the .iso tester.02:30
charlie-tcaYou are welcome02:30
skaet_release is for this Thursday.02:30
charlie-tcaThere was a meeting, pedro chaired, didn't he?02:34
charlie-tcaI think I am chair tomorrow02:35
charlie-tcaKubuntu Alternate-amd64.iso worked on hardware with multiple drives and partitions03:04
jibelHi, all09:53
jibelthe first images have reached the tracker ( http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com ) and are available for testing.09:54
jibelKubuntu and Xubuntu alternates are now on the tracker.10:28
cjwatsonFYI I explicitly recommend not installing from current daily images - they have a flaw that will result in a lurking inconsistency between those installations and ones upgraded from earlier systems11:40
cjwatsonbug 72710611:41
ubot4Launchpad bug 727106 in dpkg (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "multiarch symlink not present in fresh installs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72710611:41
jibelcjwatson, thanks for the heads-up. upgrade testing is okay or should we wait too ?11:42
cjwatsonupgrade testing is fine11:43
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hggdhweird. I restarted compiz, on a classic desktop, and now I have a mix of Unity (workspaces 3,4,5) and classical (workspaces 1,2,6)15:17
pedro_hggdh, check with ccsm if you have the compiz unity plugin enabled, there's a bug about it15:18
pedro_hggdh, just disable the plugin and login/logout15:18
hggdhpedro_: ah. Will do, thanks15:18
jibelIs anyone having problem to access packages index from security.ubuntu.com ? it's really slow here.15:24
brendand_hi jibel15:31
brendand_and pedro_15:31
jibelHi brendand_15:32
brendand_i'm going to be taking part in the iso testing this week15:32
pedro_hello brendand_15:32
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brendandi see iso's are being built15:32
brendanddo you know when they'll be available, approximately?15:32
jibelWell, at the moment the images need some polishing before being published. They should be available, but there's still some delay, I've no estimate.15:33
jibelFor now, you can help with upgrades testing.15:33
brendandjibel - i'm doing that, as we speak :)15:34
brendandjust installing maverick on one netbook so i can upgrade it to natty15:34
brendandand downloading a few servers images to put on a VM15:34
* roadmr got some toothpaste, can help polishing 15:35
jibelbrendand, the path is to install maverick, apply all updates then upgrade. It's good to test in a VM because you can snapshot before the upgrade and avoid reinstalling the previous release each time.15:38
brendandjibel - good tip15:41
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jibelI've got the confirmation that security.u.c is heavily hammered atm, so upgrades may be slow.16:32
jibelGood news, kubuntu alternate/desktop, ubuntu server, mythbuntu, and netboot are on the tracker.18:13
patrickmwjibel: yay!18:28
charlie-tcasyncing ubuntu and xubuntu18:30
torosis anybody experiencing problems with the global menu in ubuntu natty?18:50
torosit keeps crashing for me, and I'm just wondering if other people are also affected18:51
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bdmurraycould someone confirm bug 727373?19:51
ubot4Launchpad bug 727373 in yelp (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "try to get help and get a document not found instead (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72737319:51
jibelbdmurray, confirmed, I reported bug 72642619:56
ubot4Launchpad bug 726426 in yelp (Ubuntu) "Default document "ghelp:gnome-help" not found (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72642619:56
bdmurrayjibel: hmm, I'd have expected the dupe finder to help out there19:57
patrickmwjibel: ping20:26
jibelpatrickmw, pong20:28
patrickmwjibel: are you familiar with what is expected when a user logs in to a thin client using ltsp?  Should the user have the typical desktop interface by default?20:29
jibelpatrickmw, for edubuntu ?20:29
jibelpatrickmw, you should have a desktop20:29
patrickmwThat's what I thought20:30
jibelpatrickmw, and what do you see instead ?20:30
patrickmwI can log in, but I don't get any menus, just the background image.  I can right click and see the context menu though20:30
jibelpatrickmw, you get the gdm login before that ?20:31
jibelpatrickmw, this looks like a bug in gnome-session20:31
patrickmwjibel: I get the ltsp login screen.  its a different than gdm20:32
patrickmwjibel: you just have me an idea20:32
patrickmwjibel: tyring now20:32
jibelpatrickmw, I'd file a bug against gnome-session anyway.20:34
patrickmwjibel: ok20:35
jibelpatrickmw, from your description nautilus is running but not metacity. the session manager is confused somewhere.20:36
marjo_who else is testing kubuntu?20:36
marjo_i got a kde daemon error and refers to a possible full disk drive (which makes no sense)20:36
jibelmarjo, I can test in 14 minutes. which arch ?20:37
marjo_jibel: i38620:37
marjo_jibel: where are the kubuntu testers?! AWOL?20:38
jibelmarjo,  awol ?20:39
marjo_jibel: military term (away without leave)20:40
marjo_jibel: pardon my english20:40
jibelmarjo_, np, military terms are stranger to me ;-)20:41
patrickmwjibel: I'm not sure whether to pass or fail the ltsp test case in this scenario20:46
jibelpatrickmw, what does the test case says ?20:47
patrickmwjibel: the steps are this detailed20:48
jibelpatrickmw, if the desktop is unusable to me its a failure.20:48
jibelis there a kubuntu-announce mailing list somewhere where we can reach the kubuntu community ?20:49
jibelmarjo, I get the following error : the following packages are in a broken state: g++, gcc, \nblablabla20:56
jibelbtw xubuntu upgrades both failed by bug 72721120:56
ubot4Launchpad bug 727211 in udev (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "package udev 166-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: dpkg-divert: error: mismatch on package (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72721120:56
cjwatsonjibel: even with that udev fix?21:08
cjwatsonperhaps you downloaded upgrades before the fix ...21:09
jibelI'm comparing the checksums21:10
jibelcjwatson, this is the image I tested http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20110301.3/natty-desktop-i386.iso21:12
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jibelcjwatson, for xubuntu, no without the fix, I added a comment to the testing report, and will retry when the mirror will be up to date.21:14
marjo_patrickmw, jibel: according to Riddell, the bug with kde daemon after install is a known KDE upstream issue22:39
jibelto all, hold on on desktop install (ubiquity based installer), the images will be respun.22:41
marjo_jibel: ack22:42
charlie-tcathanks for the update22:42
jibelbut you can test alternates, server and upgrade of course :-)22:43
charlie-tcaIs Xubuntu upgrade okay to test now?22:56
jibelcharlie-tca, yes but before upgrading verify that the mirror you are using is in sync and that udev - 166-0ubuntu3 is available from it.22:58
skaet_all,  all images with ubiquity are getting respun right now and have been disabled in the .iso tracker until the new ones become available.23:28
marjo_skaet_ ack23:28
* skaet_ just sees jibel announced it earlier... sorry to be redundant :/23:29
marjo_skaet_ np; more communication is ok23:29
charlie-tcaafter 11 hours, any communication is good23:29
marjo_charlie-tca: two nights in a row of testing! and couple more to go123:30
charlie-tcayup, that's what I was thinking too. :-)23:30
charlie-tcabut this is going to be a really great release when it gets there, too!23:31
marjo_charlie-tca: +1!23:31
skaet_charlie-tca, +123:32
jibelYeah, and marjo_ offers a barrel of beer at next UDS to celebrate this great release !23:33
charlie-tcaGot to find that barrel, I guess !23:34
jibelEnding my day with a server upgrade failure. Time to go to bed dreaming of jumping bugs. See you tomorrow for the next episode !23:43
charlie-tcaHave a good night!23:48

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