[00:02] * patrickmw syncing images [00:02] patrickmw: thx; please tell us what image you end up sanity testing [00:03] marjo, is there somewhere we can designate who is testing an iso since the tracker isn't available? [00:06] I will make a google speadsheet. It will help. expect a link soon iso testers :) [00:09] patrickmw: thx; here's what i have so far: [00:09] natty-alternate-i386 [00:09] marjo [00:09] 64bit [00:09] charlie-tca [00:09] server [00:09] hggdh [00:12] marjo, charlie-tca, bdmurray, pedro, jibel, hggdh: see spreadsheet https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AkkrMAUWCfU3dEF3NnhjV0FmTlF4Rkx2enBnSmgtZmc&hl=en&authkey=COrY55AB [00:12] I have started it [00:13] please follow the convention to add an iso you are testing [00:13] dude where's my server? ;-) [00:13] thank you (note, everyone has write access, please be mindful) [00:14] bdmurray, did I miss a category? [00:15] patrickmw: server maybe? [00:15] bdmurray: add it... like this :) [00:15] I'm not testing it - I was trying to make a joke and here you are ruining it [00:15] ah I see [00:16] heh [00:16] jokes? [00:16] at a time like this? [00:16] http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242423/ [00:16] lol [00:16] hm, farther along here than I been in a week. things are looking up :-) [00:31] marjo: I ran into the gsettings-data-convert issue you saw [00:33] bdmurray: ack [00:38] marjo: please review the isos I've added to the doc. do you think that is enough for now. I expect we will do the full test cycle on Thurs? [00:39] and hudson kicked in with the server images [00:40] Ubuntu-alternate-amd64 installed on hardware with multiple partitions and drives [00:40] also if anybody sees any visual corruption in any menus or drop downs see bug 726807 [00:40] Launchpad bug 726807 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "drawing of drop down boxes produces artifacts temporarily (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726807 [00:51] charlie-tca: perfect! All hail cjwatson :-) [00:51] marjo: want me to grab the kubuntu 64bit? It will take longer, since it is a full download [01:01] syncing kubuntu alternate 1md64 [01:18] charlie-tca ok thx [01:18] anyway, trying to. My super fast 2.8KBs connection is maxed out [01:33] charlie-tca, patrickmw: which image should i do next? k-d-i386? [01:34] marjo, I think that's a good idea, need more testing on kubuntu [01:36] what's the bug id for gsettings dialog error? [01:38] marjo, bdmurray: did some one write up a bug on the gsettings data conversion error? [01:38] patrickmw: i can't find the k-desktop-i386, so i'm doing k-dvd-i386 instead [01:39] patrickmw: i don't have a bug number for the gsettings data conversion error [01:39] patrickmw, bdmurray: according to pitti: [01:40] " we already have a stack trace there, which is about as much as we can get remotely [01:40] I think we need to find a reproducer how to make it crash in a running session, so that we can dissect it [01:40] I tried, but I haven't been able to crash it" [01:41] well, when I run gsettings-data-convert it crashes. is that not good enough? [01:42] bdmurray: bug 726889? [01:42] Launchpad bug 726889 in gconf2 (Ubuntu) "gsettings-data-convert crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall() (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726889 [01:46] patrickmw: yes that's one bdmurray submitted, but not the one pitti knows about [02:04] I am not seeing kubuntu desktop images yet [02:21] hm, okay, I take it back. They are there now, dated 2011-03-01 [02:23] bdmurray, patrickmw, charlie-tca, hggdh: according to skaet, the current set of results is sufficient for sanity testing [02:23] please finish up your current tests and then knock off [02:23] Great! We start in tomorrow with the ISO testing, right? [02:24] marjo, ack [02:24] please make sure any bugs you encountered are marked high, and targetted into the right teams/developers. We might be able to get patches for them. [02:24] charlie-tca: Last I was told we start Thursday (but that info is from last week) [02:25] I thought we had the alpha3 due out thursday [02:25] bdmurray, patrickmw, charlie-tca, hggdh ^^^ [02:25] marjo, input? [02:25] charlie-tca: ack [02:25] Thanks [02:26] by the way, I just inherited an Acer Aspire 5315 64bit laptop with 1GB ram. Will be able to use it for testing [02:29] was there a QA meeting last Tuesday? I don't see the minutes [02:30] charlie-tca, marjo, patrickmw, hggdh, bdmurray - thank you for doing the sniff testing today! The release candidate images will be showing up off the daily builders tonight, should get loaded into the .iso tester. [02:30] You are welcome [02:30] release is for this Thursday. [02:34] There was a meeting, pedro chaired, didn't he? [02:35] I think I am chair tomorrow [03:04] Kubuntu Alternate-amd64.iso worked on hardware with multiple drives and partitions [09:53] Hi, all [09:54] the first images have reached the tracker ( http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com ) and are available for testing. [10:28] Kubuntu and Xubuntu alternates are now on the tracker. [11:40] FYI I explicitly recommend not installing from current daily images - they have a flaw that will result in a lurking inconsistency between those installations and ones upgraded from earlier systems [11:41] bug 727106 [11:41] Launchpad bug 727106 in dpkg (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "multiarch symlink not present in fresh installs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727106 [11:42] cjwatson, thanks for the heads-up. upgrade testing is okay or should we wait too ? [11:43] upgrade testing is fine === zul__ is now known as zul [12:19] ls === fader_` is now known as fader_ [15:17] weird. I restarted compiz, on a classic desktop, and now I have a mix of Unity (workspaces 3,4,5) and classical (workspaces 1,2,6) [15:18] hggdh, check with ccsm if you have the compiz unity plugin enabled, there's a bug about it [15:18] hggdh, just disable the plugin and login/logout [15:18] pedro_: ah. Will do, thanks [15:24] Is anyone having problem to access packages index from security.ubuntu.com ? it's really slow here. [15:31] hi jibel [15:31] and pedro_ [15:32] Hi brendand_ [15:32] i'm going to be taking part in the iso testing this week [15:32] hello brendand_ [15:32] \o/! [15:32] \o/ === brendand_ is now known as brendand [15:32] i see iso's are being built [15:32] do you know when they'll be available, approximately? [15:33] Well, at the moment the images need some polishing before being published. They should be available, but there's still some delay, I've no estimate. [15:33] For now, you can help with upgrades testing. [15:34] jibel - i'm doing that, as we speak :) [15:34] just installing maverick on one netbook so i can upgrade it to natty [15:34] and downloading a few servers images to put on a VM [15:35] * roadmr got some toothpaste, can help polishing [15:38] brendand, the path is to install maverick, apply all updates then upgrade. It's good to test in a VM because you can snapshot before the upgrade and avoid reinstalling the previous release each time. [15:41] jibel - good tip === zul__ is now known as zul [16:32] I've got the confirmation that security.u.c is heavily hammered atm, so upgrades may be slow. [18:13] Good news, kubuntu alternate/desktop, ubuntu server, mythbuntu, and netboot are on the tracker. [18:28] jibel: yay! [18:30] syncing ubuntu and xubuntu [18:50] hi [18:50] is anybody experiencing problems with the global menu in ubuntu natty? [18:51] it keeps crashing for me, and I'm just wondering if other people are also affected === zul_ is now known as zul [19:51] could someone confirm bug 727373? [19:51] Launchpad bug 727373 in yelp (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "try to get help and get a document not found instead (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727373 [19:56] bdmurray, confirmed, I reported bug 726426 [19:56] Launchpad bug 726426 in yelp (Ubuntu) "Default document "ghelp:gnome-help" not found (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726426 [19:57] jibel: hmm, I'd have expected the dupe finder to help out there [20:26] jibel: ping [20:28] patrickmw, pong [20:29] jibel: are you familiar with what is expected when a user logs in to a thin client using ltsp? Should the user have the typical desktop interface by default? [20:29] patrickmw, for edubuntu ? [20:29] ubuntu [20:29] patrickmw, you should have a desktop [20:30] That's what I thought [20:30] patrickmw, and what do you see instead ? [20:30] I can log in, but I don't get any menus, just the background image. I can right click and see the context menu though [20:31] patrickmw, you get the gdm login before that ? [20:31] patrickmw, this looks like a bug in gnome-session [20:32] jibel: I get the ltsp login screen. its a different than gdm [20:32] jibel: you just have me an idea [20:32] jibel: tyring now [20:34] patrickmw, I'd file a bug against gnome-session anyway. [20:35] jibel: ok [20:36] patrickmw, from your description nautilus is running but not metacity. the session manager is confused somewhere. [20:36] who else is testing kubuntu? [20:36] i got a kde daemon error and refers to a possible full disk drive (which makes no sense) [20:37] marjo, I can test in 14 minutes. which arch ? [20:37] jibel: i386 [20:38] jibel: where are the kubuntu testers?! AWOL? [20:39] marjo, awol ? [20:40] jibel: military term (away without leave) [20:40] jibel: pardon my english [20:41] marjo_, np, military terms are stranger to me ;-) [20:46] jibel: I'm not sure whether to pass or fail the ltsp test case in this scenario [20:47] patrickmw, what does the test case says ? [20:48] jibel: the steps are this detailed [20:48] patrickmw, if the desktop is unusable to me its a failure. [20:49] is there a kubuntu-announce mailing list somewhere where we can reach the kubuntu community ? [20:56] marjo, I get the following error : the following packages are in a broken state: g++, gcc, \nblablabla [20:56] btw xubuntu upgrades both failed by bug 727211 [20:56] Launchpad bug 727211 in udev (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "package udev 166-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: dpkg-divert: error: mismatch on package (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727211 [21:08] jibel: even with that udev fix? [21:09] perhaps you downloaded upgrades before the fix ... [21:10] I'm comparing the checksums [21:12] cjwatson, this is the image I tested http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20110301.3/natty-desktop-i386.iso === McPeter_ is now known as McPeter [21:14] cjwatson, for xubuntu, no without the fix, I added a comment to the testing report, and will retry when the mirror will be up to date. [22:39] patrickmw, jibel: according to Riddell, the bug with kde daemon after install is a known KDE upstream issue [22:41] to all, hold on on desktop install (ubiquity based installer), the images will be respun. [22:42] jibel: ack [22:42] thanks for the update [22:43] but you can test alternates, server and upgrade of course :-) [22:56] Is Xubuntu upgrade okay to test now? [22:58] charlie-tca, yes but before upgrading verify that the mirror you are using is in sync and that udev - 166-0ubuntu3 is available from it. [22:59] Okay [23:28] all, all images with ubiquity are getting respun right now and have been disabled in the .iso tracker until the new ones become available. [23:28] skaet_ ack [23:29] * skaet_ just sees jibel announced it earlier... sorry to be redundant :/ [23:29] skaet_ np; more communication is ok [23:29] thanks [23:29] after 11 hours, any communication is good [23:30] charlie-tca: two nights in a row of testing! and couple more to go1 [23:30] go! [23:30] yup, that's what I was thinking too. :-) [23:31] but this is going to be a really great release when it gets there, too! [23:31] charlie-tca: +1! [23:32] charlie-tca, +1 [23:33] Yeah, and marjo_ offers a barrel of beer at next UDS to celebrate this great release ! [23:34] Got to find that barrel, I guess ! [23:43] Ending my day with a server upgrade failure. Time to go to bed dreaming of jumping bugs. See you tomorrow for the next episode ! [23:48] Have a good night!