[00:02]  * patrickmw syncing images
[00:02] <marjo> patrickmw: thx; please tell us what image you end up sanity testing
[00:03] <patrickmw> marjo, is there somewhere we can designate who is testing an iso since the tracker isn't available?
[00:06] <patrickmw> I will make a google speadsheet.  It will help. expect a link soon iso testers :)
[00:09] <marjo> patrickmw: thx; here's what i have so far:
[00:09] <marjo> natty-alternate-i386
[00:09] <marjo> marjo
[00:09] <marjo> 64bit
[00:09] <marjo> charlie-tca
[00:09] <marjo> server
[00:09] <marjo> hggdh
[00:12] <patrickmw> marjo, charlie-tca, bdmurray, pedro, jibel, hggdh: see spreadsheet https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AkkrMAUWCfU3dEF3NnhjV0FmTlF4Rkx2enBnSmgtZmc&hl=en&authkey=COrY55AB
[00:12] <patrickmw> I have started it
[00:13] <patrickmw> please follow the convention to add an iso you are testing
[00:13] <bdmurray> dude where's my server? ;-)
[00:13] <patrickmw> thank you (note, everyone has write access, please be mindful)
[00:14] <patrickmw> bdmurray, did I miss a category?
[00:15] <bdmurray> patrickmw: server maybe?
[00:15] <patrickmw> bdmurray: add it... like this :)
[00:15] <bdmurray> I'm not testing it - I was trying to make a joke and here you are ruining it
[00:15] <patrickmw> ah I see
[00:16] <hggdh> heh
[00:16] <patrickmw> jokes?
[00:16] <patrickmw> at a time like this?
[00:16] <bdmurray> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242423/
[00:16] <patrickmw> lol
[00:16] <charlie-tca> hm, farther along here than I been in a week. things are looking up :-)
[00:31] <bdmurray> marjo: I ran into the gsettings-data-convert issue you saw
[00:33] <marjo> bdmurray: ack
[00:38] <patrickmw> marjo: please review the isos I've added to the doc.  do you think that is enough for now. I expect we will do the full test cycle on Thurs?
[00:39] <hggdh> and hudson kicked in with the server images
[00:40] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu-alternate-amd64 installed on hardware with multiple partitions and drives
[00:40] <bdmurray> also if anybody sees any visual corruption in any menus or drop downs see bug 726807
[00:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 726807 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "drawing of drop down boxes produces artifacts temporarily (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726807
[00:51] <hggdh> charlie-tca: perfect! All hail cjwatson :-)
[00:51] <charlie-tca> marjo: want me to grab the kubuntu 64bit? It will take longer, since it is a full download
[01:01] <charlie-tca> syncing kubuntu alternate 1md64
[01:18] <marjo> charlie-tca ok thx
[01:18] <charlie-tca> anyway, trying to. My super fast 2.8KBs connection is maxed out
[01:33] <marjo> charlie-tca, patrickmw: which image should i do next? k-d-i386?
[01:34] <patrickmw> marjo, I think that's a good idea, need more testing on kubuntu
[01:36] <patrickmw> what's the bug id for gsettings dialog error?
[01:38] <patrickmw> marjo, bdmurray: did some one write up a bug on the gsettings data conversion error?
[01:38] <marjo> patrickmw: i can't find the k-desktop-i386, so i'm doing k-dvd-i386 instead
[01:39] <marjo> patrickmw: i don't have a bug number for the gsettings data conversion error
[01:39] <marjo> patrickmw, bdmurray: according to pitti:
[01:40] <marjo> " we already have a stack trace there, which is about as much as we can get remotely
[01:40] <marjo>  I think we need to find a reproducer how to make it crash in a running session, so that we can dissect it
[01:40] <marjo>  I tried, but I haven't been able to crash it"
[01:41] <patrickmw> well, when I run gsettings-data-convert it crashes. is that not good enough?
[01:42] <patrickmw> bdmurray: bug 726889?
[01:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 726889 in gconf2 (Ubuntu) "gsettings-data-convert crashed with SIGABRT in __kernel_vsyscall() (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726889
[01:46] <marjo> patrickmw: yes that's one bdmurray submitted, but not the one pitti knows about
[02:04] <charlie-tca> I am not seeing kubuntu desktop images yet
[02:21] <charlie-tca> hm, okay, I take it back. They are there now, dated 2011-03-01
[02:23] <marjo> bdmurray, patrickmw, charlie-tca, hggdh: according to skaet, the current set of results is sufficient for sanity testing
[02:23] <marjo> please finish up your current tests and then knock off
[02:23] <charlie-tca> Great! We start in tomorrow with the ISO testing, right?
[02:24] <patrickmw> marjo, ack
[02:24] <marjo> please make sure any bugs you encountered are marked high,  and targetted into the right teams/developers.  We might be able to get patches for them.
[02:24] <patrickmw> charlie-tca: Last I was told we start Thursday (but that info is from last week)
[02:25] <charlie-tca> I thought we had the alpha3 due out thursday
[02:25] <marjo> bdmurray, patrickmw, charlie-tca, hggdh ^^^
[02:25] <patrickmw> marjo, input?
[02:25] <marjo> charlie-tca: ack
[02:25] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[02:26] <charlie-tca> by the way, I just inherited an Acer Aspire 5315 64bit laptop with 1GB ram. Will be able to use it for testing
[02:29] <patrickmw> was there a QA meeting last Tuesday? I don't see the minutes
[02:30] <skaet_> charlie-tca, marjo, patrickmw, hggdh, bdmurray - thank you for doing the sniff testing today!    The release candidate images will be showing up off the daily builders tonight, should get loaded into the .iso tester.
[02:30] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[02:30] <skaet_> release is for this Thursday.
[02:34] <charlie-tca> There was a meeting, pedro chaired, didn't he?
[02:35] <charlie-tca> I think I am chair tomorrow
[03:04] <charlie-tca> Kubuntu Alternate-amd64.iso worked on hardware with multiple drives and partitions
[09:53] <jibel> Hi, all
[09:54] <jibel> the first images have reached the tracker ( http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com ) and are available for testing.
[10:28] <jibel> Kubuntu and Xubuntu alternates are now on the tracker.
[11:40] <cjwatson> FYI I explicitly recommend not installing from current daily images - they have a flaw that will result in a lurking inconsistency between those installations and ones upgraded from earlier systems
[11:41] <cjwatson> bug 727106
[11:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 727106 in dpkg (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "multiarch symlink not present in fresh installs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727106
[11:42] <jibel> cjwatson, thanks for the heads-up. upgrade testing is okay or should we wait too ?
[11:43] <cjwatson> upgrade testing is fine
[12:19] <hggdh> ls
[15:17] <hggdh> weird. I restarted compiz, on a classic desktop, and now I have a mix of Unity (workspaces 3,4,5) and classical (workspaces 1,2,6)
[15:18] <pedro_> hggdh, check with ccsm if you have the compiz unity plugin enabled, there's a bug about it
[15:18] <pedro_> hggdh, just disable the plugin and login/logout
[15:18] <hggdh> pedro_: ah. Will do, thanks
[15:24] <jibel> Is anyone having problem to access packages index from security.ubuntu.com ? it's really slow here.
[15:31] <brendand_> hi jibel
[15:31] <brendand_> and pedro_
[15:32] <jibel> Hi brendand_
[15:32] <brendand_> i'm going to be taking part in the iso testing this week
[15:32] <pedro_> hello brendand_
[15:32] <pedro_> \o/!
[15:32] <jibel> \o/
[15:32] <brendand> i see iso's are being built
[15:32] <brendand> do you know when they'll be available, approximately?
[15:33] <jibel> Well, at the moment the images need some polishing before being published. They should be available, but there's still some delay, I've no estimate.
[15:33] <jibel> For now, you can help with upgrades testing.
[15:34] <brendand> jibel - i'm doing that, as we speak :)
[15:34] <brendand> just installing maverick on one netbook so i can upgrade it to natty
[15:34] <brendand> and downloading a few servers images to put on a VM
[15:35]  * roadmr got some toothpaste, can help polishing 
[15:38] <jibel> brendand, the path is to install maverick, apply all updates then upgrade. It's good to test in a VM because you can snapshot before the upgrade and avoid reinstalling the previous release each time.
[15:41] <brendand> jibel - good tip
[16:32] <jibel> I've got the confirmation that security.u.c is heavily hammered atm, so upgrades may be slow.
[18:13] <jibel> Good news, kubuntu alternate/desktop, ubuntu server, mythbuntu, and netboot are on the tracker.
[18:28] <patrickmw> jibel: yay!
[18:30] <charlie-tca> syncing ubuntu and xubuntu
[18:50] <toros> hi
[18:50] <toros> is anybody experiencing problems with the global menu in ubuntu natty?
[18:51] <toros> it keeps crashing for me, and I'm just wondering if other people are also affected
[19:51] <bdmurray> could someone confirm bug 727373?
[19:51] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 727373 in yelp (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "try to get help and get a document not found instead (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727373
[19:56] <jibel> bdmurray, confirmed, I reported bug 726426
[19:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 726426 in yelp (Ubuntu) "Default document "ghelp:gnome-help" not found (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726426
[19:57] <bdmurray> jibel: hmm, I'd have expected the dupe finder to help out there
[20:26] <patrickmw> jibel: ping
[20:28] <jibel> patrickmw, pong
[20:29] <patrickmw> jibel: are you familiar with what is expected when a user logs in to a thin client using ltsp?  Should the user have the typical desktop interface by default?
[20:29] <jibel> patrickmw, for edubuntu ?
[20:29] <patrickmw> ubuntu
[20:29] <jibel> patrickmw, you should have a desktop
[20:30] <patrickmw> That's what I thought
[20:30] <jibel> patrickmw, and what do you see instead ?
[20:30] <patrickmw> I can log in, but I don't get any menus, just the background image.  I can right click and see the context menu though
[20:31] <jibel> patrickmw, you get the gdm login before that ?
[20:31] <jibel> patrickmw, this looks like a bug in gnome-session
[20:32] <patrickmw> jibel: I get the ltsp login screen.  its a different than gdm
[20:32] <patrickmw> jibel: you just have me an idea
[20:32] <patrickmw> jibel: tyring now
[20:34] <jibel> patrickmw, I'd file a bug against gnome-session anyway.
[20:35] <patrickmw> jibel: ok
[20:36] <jibel> patrickmw, from your description nautilus is running but not metacity. the session manager is confused somewhere.
[20:36] <marjo_> who else is testing kubuntu?
[20:36] <marjo_> i got a kde daemon error and refers to a possible full disk drive (which makes no sense)
[20:37] <jibel> marjo, I can test in 14 minutes. which arch ?
[20:37] <marjo_> jibel: i386
[20:38] <marjo_> jibel: where are the kubuntu testers?! AWOL?
[20:39] <jibel> marjo,  awol ?
[20:40] <marjo_> jibel: military term (away without leave)
[20:40] <marjo_> jibel: pardon my english
[20:41] <jibel> marjo_, np, military terms are stranger to me ;-)
[20:46] <patrickmw> jibel: I'm not sure whether to pass or fail the ltsp test case in this scenario
[20:47] <jibel> patrickmw, what does the test case says ?
[20:48] <patrickmw> jibel: the steps are this detailed
[20:48] <jibel> patrickmw, if the desktop is unusable to me its a failure.
[20:49] <jibel> is there a kubuntu-announce mailing list somewhere where we can reach the kubuntu community ?
[20:56] <jibel> marjo, I get the following error : the following packages are in a broken state: g++, gcc, \nblablabla
[20:56] <jibel> btw xubuntu upgrades both failed by bug 727211
[20:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 727211 in udev (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "package udev 166-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: dpkg-divert: error: mismatch on package (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727211
[21:08] <cjwatson> jibel: even with that udev fix?
[21:09] <cjwatson> perhaps you downloaded upgrades before the fix ...
[21:10] <jibel> I'm comparing the checksums
[21:12] <jibel> cjwatson, this is the image I tested http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/20110301.3/natty-desktop-i386.iso
[21:14] <jibel> cjwatson, for xubuntu, no without the fix, I added a comment to the testing report, and will retry when the mirror will be up to date.
[22:39] <marjo_> patrickmw, jibel: according to Riddell, the bug with kde daemon after install is a known KDE upstream issue
[22:41] <jibel> to all, hold on on desktop install (ubiquity based installer), the images will be respun.
[22:42] <marjo_> jibel: ack
[22:42] <charlie-tca> thanks for the update
[22:43] <jibel> but you can test alternates, server and upgrade of course :-)
[22:56] <charlie-tca> Is Xubuntu upgrade okay to test now?
[22:58] <jibel> charlie-tca, yes but before upgrading verify that the mirror you are using is in sync and that udev - 166-0ubuntu3 is available from it.
[22:59] <charlie-tca> Okay
[23:28] <skaet_> all,  all images with ubiquity are getting respun right now and have been disabled in the .iso tracker until the new ones become available.
[23:28] <marjo_> skaet_ ack
[23:29]  * skaet_ just sees jibel announced it earlier...   sorry to be redundant :/
[23:29] <marjo_> skaet_ np; more communication is ok
[23:29] <charlie-tca> thanks
[23:29] <charlie-tca> after 11 hours, any communication is good
[23:30] <marjo_> charlie-tca: two nights in a row of testing! and couple more to go1
[23:30] <marjo_> go!
[23:30] <charlie-tca> yup, that's what I was thinking too. :-)
[23:31] <charlie-tca> but this is going to be a really great release when it gets there, too!
[23:31] <marjo_> charlie-tca: +1!
[23:32] <skaet_> charlie-tca, +1
[23:33] <jibel> Yeah, and marjo_ offers a barrel of beer at next UDS to celebrate this great release !
[23:34] <charlie-tca> Got to find that barrel, I guess !
[23:43] <jibel> Ending my day with a server upgrade failure. Time to go to bed dreaming of jumping bugs. See you tomorrow for the next episode !
[23:48] <charlie-tca> Have a good night!