[00:37] is this the artists channel ? [00:50] Redmono, this is the channel for help with ubuntu studio [00:50] nice [00:50] it's not necessarily an "artist" room [00:50] its the best looking ubuntu out of the box [00:51] oh, thanks [00:51] i'm glad you like it [00:51] Redmono: thanks :) [00:51] i havent tried it yet but have seen screen caputres [00:51] not that I have anything to do with it ;) [05:13] doodie: try sudo qjackctl [05:14] and double check all your settings [05:14] you can pastebin the output in 'messages' if you want [05:14] Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory [05:16] doodie: what hardware? [05:16] as it ever worked? [05:16] has* [05:17] hw0 [05:17] hw:0|hw:0|1024|3|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit [05:18] yeah, what physical hardware [05:18] is it an internal card? [05:18] did it used to work? [05:18] i updated yesterday [05:18] Using ALSA driver HDA-Intel running on card 0 - HDA ATI SB at 0xf0400000 irq 16 [05:19] *if it aint broke, dont update ;) [05:19] next time sure [05:19] doodie: so this is an internal sound card? [05:19] yes [05:20] doodie: in a terminal [05:20] run [05:21] aplay -l [05:21] and a record -l [05:21] you see output? [05:21] something? [05:21] yes [05:21] looks right? [05:22] doodie: sound works otherwise? [05:22] just not with JACK ? [05:22] correct [05:22] seems good [05:22] ok [05:22] in a terminal [05:22] sudo /sbin/alsa force-reload [05:22] then try JACK [05:23] try and remember what the settings were when JACK was working [05:23] doodie, do you have any usb devices connected? What do you see when choosing sound card in qjackctl? Only one device? [05:23] a,s [05:24] a,s ?? [05:24] a,s? [05:24] help me help you doodie ;) [05:24] alsa [05:24] no usb devices [05:24] holstein, oops [05:25] after the alsa reload [05:25] does JACK start with sudo qjackctl? [05:25] doodie: in "Interdace". Only one device? hw:0? [05:25] yes with error [05:25] Interface* [05:26] doodie: run sudo qjackctl [05:26] hit start [05:26] then, open 'messages' [05:26] ailo_, default [05:26] and copy all thta [05:26] and paste it over into a pastebin [05:28] http://pastebin.com/VM2VU8sc [05:28] is jack2 required?? [05:29] not required [05:29] but you probably have it [05:29] i removed [05:30] removed? [05:30] JACK? [05:30] jack2? [05:30] why? [05:31] that might be a deal breaker [05:31] im sure some of the other packages in buntu [05:31] are expecting the version of JACK in the repo [05:34] nothing happed after installing jack2 [05:35] when? [05:43] why is jack so good ? [05:43] Redmono: ?? [05:43] jack is functional [05:43] JACK allows the interconnectivity of applications [05:44] most audio applications in linux have JACK support [05:44] which allows you to plug a guitar into an external sound device [05:44] along time ago i tryed making sence of jack but couldnt some app automatically turned it on but used to crash alot [05:44] route that to software processing [05:44] like rakarrack [05:44] route that to ardour to record [05:45] or, something to trigger a midi synth [05:45] or, to something that would stream it online [05:45] so many possibilities [05:45] AND JACK is what allows low latency [05:45] but, is it good? [05:45] i like it [05:46] good is a matter of opinion [05:46] Redmono: if you want some help getting JACK configured and running [05:46] we can make that happen [05:46] not right now thanks [05:47] its geting late im gona hit the sack prety don [05:47] likewise [05:47] i gotta get up kinda early-ish [18:44] Hi all. [18:45] Question: After removing PulseAudio, which is not working too good, how do I manage my audio cards? I have a Zoom H2 that I use for Skype and other things, hat I'd rather not use with Jack. [18:45] I do use Jack for audio/musical creation [18:53] xyclo: What problems were you having with pulseaudio? [18:53] Hi ailo_ [18:54] It just does not work well with Firefox [18:54] I was trying to broadcast on Justin.tv [18:55] xyclo: If you are using alsa now, you'll need to use alsa mixers and tools for that. There's "alsamixer", which you can run through the command line. [18:55] I routed Jack through Pulse and could not make it work [18:55] I was just thinking [18:55] can I use Jack through Alsamixer? [18:55] Does that make sense? [18:55] xyclo: I think jack + pulseaudio is the main problem. Using just PA would be preferable, since it is not meant for low latency use [18:56] Aha. [18:56] ok [18:56] alsamixer will work with your sound cards, no matter if you are using PA, alsa or jack [18:57] I want to plug a guitar (or anything) to my firewire interface and to be able to route to firefox (Justin TV) [18:57] guys, i miss the "ubuntu" theme on the "ubuntu studio" ,, i mean the bottom bar, the username at the corner, the empathy icon n so on , can i have it somehow ? [18:57] Also, what about Skype? [18:57] xyclo, Ah, ok. So you need jack. [18:57] It keeps looking for PulseAudio [18:57] yep [18:58] xyclo, did you try the libflash plugin for jack? [18:58] hm, no [18:59] back now... [18:59] how, ailo_? [19:00] xyclo_, I tried it at least a year ago, so I don't remember. It was a little buggy. I'm looking for it now. [19:00] xyclo_, If you use PA + jack, make sure to use the lowest possible latency. You can't expect to monitor yourself through the computer. [19:01] Actually, it would be better to use two computers. One with jack + audio software, and the other fro broadcasting [19:01] I actually made the Jack-PA combo work a while back, but now it does not work [19:01] Of course latency was awful [19:02] hm, I have more comps, but it would be too much trouble at this point for other reasons... space, setup time... [19:02] I want something simple, a couple of clicks and be playing! [19:02] :) [19:04] 10:4 [19:04] i want to keep my ubuntu studio ,, but i want the normal ubuntu 10.10 theme [19:04] is that doable [19:05] dookami_, Sure. You can install Ubuntu, and the install audio packages on top of that. [19:05] then* [19:06] ailo_: is that like easy ? [19:07] dookami_, Sure. The main problem is always to make sure you get realtime privilege. Other than that, you just install the software you want to use [19:08] dookami_, To get realtime privilege, you need to be in audio group, and you need to have /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf setup for realtime audio. [19:09] ailo_: lsn dear ,, plz help me here lol ,, i installed ubuntu at first ,, then format and install ubuntu studio after many failing upgrade tries ,, and now that i have installed the ubuntu studio ,, i really miss the feel of the ubuntu 10.10 theme [19:09] so ,, what should i do [19:09] install that again ,, and then find u to help me with the "audio configuration" [19:09] dookami_, You don't need to reinstall [19:10] dookami_, Are you using Ubuntustudio now? Just install the human theme [19:11] ailo_: i am ,, and how ? [19:12] dookami_, Maybe it's enough to install "ubuntu-artwork" [19:12] Just do: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork [19:13] great :D [19:13] i'll try :) [19:13] Then, you'll need to change the theme. Just Right-click on the Desktop, and choose to change the Desktop theme. You should find it there. I suppose you are looking for the Ambiance theme. [19:14] dookami_, Actually, the right-click popup has "Change Desktop Background", but that will open up the right app, anyway. [19:15] ailo_: thank you :D ,, let me try [19:16] dookami_, It may be that your system is still not set up for realtime audio. Are you using it for music mostly? [19:16] emm ,, so what should i do ? ,, and where's the bottom bar ,, with the four screens and all [19:17] i want to ,, i just installed yesterday ,, i wanna use it for guitar recording and so [19:17] Hey xyclo_ . Find a nice place to get the source, and do: git clone git://repo.or.cz/libflashsupport-jack.git [19:17] Hey, ailo_, what does it do? [19:17] In Justin TV I can only see "Linux Microphone" [19:18] In Skype it works great w/o PA! [19:18] dookami_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation [19:20] ailo_: thanks ,, but can u answer me about the theme .. [19:20] ailoJ_: emm ,, so what should i do ? ,, and where's the bottom bar ,, with the four screens and all [19:21] try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy [19:21] dookami_: ^^ [19:21] dookami_, The theme will just change the way your desktop looks. You can create new bottom bar. Just right-click on the upper bar, and choose "new panel" [19:23] xyclo_, I'm trying to figure out how the libflash thing works. [19:24] hmm ,, :( guys ,, i just want the SAME theme as the ubuntu 10.10 ,, is there a simple way ? [19:25] dookami_: just install the theme [19:25] and apply it [19:25] dookami_, The easiest is to install Ubuntu from scratch, but it really isn't that much work to change the looks of the Desktop. [19:25] search 'ubuntustudio' in the package manager of your choice [19:25] and you'll see all the metapackages [19:25] holstein, He's looking to make it look like regular Ubuntu [19:25] there are several relating to look and feel [19:25] OH [19:26] the other way ;) [19:26] lol [19:26] ubuntu-deskt [19:26] howww lol [19:26] op [19:26] what is package manager xD [19:26] search in the package manager of your choice [19:26] ubuntu-desktop [19:26] << new [19:26] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [19:26] in a terminal [19:26] OR [19:26] the software center [19:26] search [19:26] ubunt-desktop [19:26] ubuntu-desktop* [19:27] ubuntu-desktop .. where .. [19:27] OR in synaptic package manager [19:27] alright, thanks [19:27] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware [19:27] dookami_: if you know the theme you are looking for [19:27] you can search for it by name [19:28] i put the code in terminal ,, [19:28] i don't know the theme actually [19:28] holstein, I think it should be enough to install "ubuntu-artwork" [19:28] i want the same as the original [19:28] dookami_, Start by installing "ubuntu-artwork" [19:29] Open up a terminal, and copy/paste this line into it: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-artwork [19:29] ailo_: i did ,, it changed the "color" of the theme ,, but not the emm ,, i dunno what to call it ,, the bottom menu that has the four desktops thing and all [19:29] ^^ sure :) [19:29] dookami_: the bottom panel? [19:30] i dunno [19:30] http://linuxfud.wordpress.com/2007/02/16/how-to-change-the-color-of-gnome-panel-text-handles-buttons-and-more/ [19:30] dookami_, The setup of the panels, the configuration of where the panel apps are, isn't going to change no matter what you do. But, you can modify it manually. Just right click on the panels. [19:31] dookami_, If you right click on the panel, you'll see "add to panel". All sorts of apps you can add is there [19:31] xyclo_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/574087/ [19:31] ailo_: ooooooooooh ,,, alright then [19:32] thank you both for your help :) [19:32] * holstein high-fives ailo_ :) [19:32] xyclo_, I'm not able to test that on Natty, since a library has become obsolete. [19:33] xyclo_, If you want to uninstall it, make sure to keep the folder, and do "sudo make uninstall" if you don't like it [19:33] no prob, ailo_, Thanks! [19:33] I have Lucid [19:33] still [19:34] xyclo_, I wouldn't count on it working very well, but maybe it has improved. [19:34] holstein, Did you try that? libflashsupport-jack? [19:34] ailo_: nah [19:34] i can though [19:34] test [19:35] holstein: xyclo_ is trying to get his firewire device working live with Justin.tv. Quite a challenge :P [19:40] ailo_: yeah [19:40] i couldnt get FW working with icecast [19:40] for no good reason [19:40] i was assured in the ffado channel that it worked [19:40] maybe its related [19:40] whenever i do anything like that [19:40] i just do it sans-FW [19:40] holstein, I guess the biggest problem would be latency. Hard to get low latency. [19:40] i can get low latency [19:40] low enough i think [19:40] just wouldnt do it [19:40] took me a could weeks of screwing around [19:40] just to figure out it *wasnt* darkice [19:40] holstein, Yeah, but get low latency with browser apps, and flash player. [19:40] thats when i worked the 'dummy' driver into my troube-shooting routines ;) [19:40] holstein, Don't know how Justin.tv works, though [19:40] yeah, ive used ustream a bit [19:40] maybe 6 times [19:40] xyclo_: im interested in doing that though [19:40] i think i still would just line into another box for it though [19:40] i mean, its streaming quality [19:41] as long as i can track locally FW [19:41] holstein, That's what I was thinking too. Makes more sense to use two computers for that [19:41] and come out of the sends to another machine [19:41] ailo_: some call it a cop-out [19:41] i call it functional, and easy :) [19:42] the benifits of running a kick-ass FW device are just not going to be present on a stream like that [19:42] i think [19:42] that being said [19:42] xyclo_: i'll try it sometime [19:42] and see what i get [19:42] im not home now [19:42] Thanks [19:43] Why 2 machines though? [19:43] I still don't get it [19:43] xyclo_, Then you can use jack, and monitor that on one machine, and use the other with PA, with no need to monitoring it. You get a very reliable system [19:43] hm [19:44] no pulse-jack-source [19:44] right? [19:44] you just do your thing on one box [19:44] running JACk or whatever [19:44] and the other machine [19:44] you just go into it [19:44] anolog even [19:44] ok [19:44] sure [19:44] netjack is an option [19:45] I see the why [19:45] i did that with icecast [19:45] darkice* [19:45] netjack over to a machine running the dummy driver [19:45] in JACK [19:45] and all was good [19:45] but, i preffered just anolog connecting them [19:45] easy [19:45] and i challenge you to hear the difference [19:45] netjack, I dream of getting there... [19:46] on a 90kb stream [19:46] I am stuck in this minor things [19:46] these [19:46] eh [19:46] happens [19:46] at least we have options :) [19:47] true [19:47] :) [19:47] and hell, if you want to write software, the options are literally endless [19:47] So, conclusion? [19:47] well, i wouldnt be scared of running 2 machines [19:47] if it makes life easier [19:47] that what i did for a long tim [19:47] e [19:48] and still do sometimes [19:48] i still like FW [19:48] I guess I could [19:48] if your like me [19:48] I will try the libflash thing and see though... [19:49] you got a lot of options [19:49] The other PC is a laptop, no INs [19:49] i have a bunch of hardware laying around [19:49] would have too use zoom H2 [19:49] Also it's old [19:49] ... [19:49] the zoom is nice [19:49] the H4 [19:49] nice pres [19:49] yes [19:49] all you need is a line in [19:49] xyclo_, I don't know how the Justin TV thing works, if the libflash thing will help at all. At least it should work with watching Youtube and things like that. [19:49] and the zoom has it :) [19:49] the H2 is like a swiss army knife though [19:50] I use it a lot as USB mic [19:50] I have an h4. [19:50] Fantastic device. [19:50] * holstein gotta run... [19:50] thanks, holstein! [19:50] xyclo_: good luck :) [19:51] ailo_, I'll check it and report... [19:51] thanks all... [19:57] Have you tried the H4n? [19:57] Good quality too? [19:58] PipeManMusic? [20:02] I haven't. [20:42] hello [20:42] about rtirq: the only thing that seems to set any sort of priorities is editing /etc/default/rtirq [20:43] I would like the rtirq-init script to work, but only manual editing works [20:44] Strayfolk, Did you install it from repo? [20:45] I did [20:45] how do I undo the manual tweak? [20:45] Strayfolk, what is it you want to do? The script runs at startup, so it should be running now [20:46] it probably is, but only editing said file alters the rt priorities [20:46] The script that runs is in /etc/init.d/* [20:47] according to ps -eLo rtprio,cls,pid,pri,nice,cmd .... [20:47] yes, but it does nothing [20:47] Strayfolk, You're running the -rt kernel, I presume [20:47] I am [20:48] Strayfolk, I think if you just delete the files you edited, and reinstall, you'll get the default settings [20:49] is that safe? [20:50] Strayfolk, If you delete the /etc/init.d/rtirq, the script will not run . But, there will be files in all of /etc/rc.*/* [20:50] It's safe [20:52] Strayfolk, What is it you want to change in the rtirq script? [20:53] Strayfolk, actually, if you uninstall the rtirq script, I remember it wouldn't fully uninstall [20:53] I want to see what the rtirq script does differently and if it works better than my manual tweaks [20:56] Strayfolk, here's the default /etc/default/rtirq http://paste.ubuntu.com/574150/ [20:57] Strayfolk, I guess all you need is to change between that file and the one you've edited. [20:57] if I did, then those would be the priorities set, regardless of the rtirq-init script [20:58] I use firewire [20:58] reboot, thanks 4 your help [20:58] Strayfolk, Yes. I just looked into the /etc/init.d/rtirq, and it looks for "RTIRQ_CONFIG=/etc/default/rtirq" [20:58] do i need that? [20:59] ive never felt like i needed that [20:59] rtirq [20:59] Strayfolk, Which version of Ubuntu? [20:59] oh really [20:59] that's good to know [20:59] 10.04 [20:59] with 2.6.31 rt [20:59] i got a presonus firepod [20:59] and i was using that kernel for a while [21:00] then i got https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa [21:02] Just realized doing: sudo apt-get purge rtirq-init, would of course uninstall everything [21:02] Strayfolk: why do you use rtirq? [21:03] holstein, thanks for asking :) [21:03] more importantly, should i be using it? [21:03] I guess all tweak pages suggest it [21:03] do you get lower latency? [21:03] I dunno, do you have xruns and issues? [21:03] I have very poor perfomance over all [21:03] i have a zero xrun policy [21:03] holstein, You need it with an rt kernel. It sets priorities [21:03] so I'm trying to get it running smoothly [21:03] i'll tolerate one if a program is opening [21:04] or closing [21:04] holstein, It will only work with realtime patched kernels [21:04] ailo_: i have -realtime [21:04] Strayfolk: what device? [21:04] holstein, that's what I get too, but I have stability issues also, which kill the work flow [21:04] edirol fa-66 [21:04] sony vaio f12 with i7 etc... [21:05] holstein, -realtime is a realtime patched kernel, only not based on Ubuntu's kernel, but the vanilla version. You'll need rtirq to get high prio for your sound device [21:05] I've ordered an expresscard firewire controller with TI chipset, but I doubt that it'll help [21:05] Strayfolk: thats more likely [21:06] ,there's something else fishy about my system [21:06] the chip set [21:06] i have TI's [21:06] and ive tried others [21:06] janky ones [21:06] expresscard? [21:06] several [21:06] i have on expresscard [21:06] with TI [21:06] and several onboard TI's [21:06] and a few pci TI's im hanging on to for a rainy day ;) [21:06] I'm really hoping for better performance [21:07]