| nixternal | simmah down now | 00:06 |
|---|---|---|
| ScottK | nixternal: Quote of the day: "<sabdfl> Ubuntu service revenue rightfully belongs with Canonical..." | 00:10 |
| ScottK | Makes it pretty clear the rest of us are just here for the fun of it. | 00:10 |
| nixternal | yeah, sabdfl has lost his fucking mind | 00:10 |
| nixternal | arch linux could always use some developers, but you can't propose any patches :p | 00:11 |
| nixternal | but ScottK at the same time, you have to remember that revenue pays for community people to get to a UDS | 00:12 |
| ScottK | nixternal: Sure, but I'm giving up a week of consulting revenue to go. I think I'm making a bigger sacrifice. | 00:13 |
| nixternal | you are, but that's on you. you don't see me going to UDS anymore | 00:14 |
| ScottK | Well I didn't apply for this one yet. | 00:15 |
| nixternal | i won't even waste my time. the last 2 i applied for i got turned down | 00:15 |
| apachelogger | well | 00:16 |
| apachelogger | there is meego | 00:16 |
| apachelogger | a) you get cute stuff | 00:16 |
| nixternal | haha, meego...i just spit all over the place | 00:16 |
| apachelogger | b) notmark uses it | 00:16 |
| apachelogger | c) intel uses it | 00:16 |
| apachelogger | d) work for intel and beat up keith for shitty drivers | 00:16 |
| ScottK | Can't work for Intel. Don't live in Portland or Texas. | 00:17 |
| nixternal | i use kubuntu, because i know you all are doing an awesome job. mobile devices, it is only android for me, the rest is useless | 00:17 |
| nixternal | i also use arch, fedora, and suse | 00:17 |
| nixternal | but i am thinking my next laptop will probably be a mac | 00:18 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: wait for kubuntu mobile | 00:18 |
| apachelogger | also | 00:18 |
| apachelogger | Phonon is working on an own OS | 00:18 |
| nixternal | right, and what will kubuntu mobile run on? nothing i currently own right | 00:19 |
| apachelogger | and soon declaring war on DVDs I hear | 00:19 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: actually, with some tweaking this can be made happen | 00:19 |
| ScottK | nixternal: n900 is the first, but not last, target. | 00:19 |
| apachelogger | all them android phones run the same shitty board type | 00:19 |
| nixternal | right, the n900, is that thing even relevant? | 00:19 |
| apachelogger | which happens to be the same the n900 is using | 00:20 |
| nixternal | how much are they? | 00:20 |
| nixternal | have you guys seen ubuntu run on an android phone? i worked on a rom for the droid eris, it sucks | 00:20 |
| apachelogger | we are not talking about ubuntu | 00:21 |
| nixternal | right, and kde is that much faster right? | 00:21 |
| nixternal | debian with lxde wasn't bad, but it wasn't good either | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | ... | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | how much do you know about the hardware of those devices? :P | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | actually | 00:22 |
| claydoh | why doesn't anyone do a kde type of interface for android, more along the lines of touchwiz rather than an entires OS? | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | KDE got one thing ubuntu does not have | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | the supreme overlord master emperator general lord of phonon | 00:22 |
| nixternal | here is a question, and the only reason i ask is because i haven't been around....why would ubuntu/kubuntu want to target mobile devices when there is already a clear and proven leader from the linux side there? | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | claydoh: cause Qt only got available on android :P | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | actually there is already talk going on about porting kdelibs | 00:23 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: i know enough on the hardware to be dangerous. i am cooking roms for droid phones as we speak :) | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | but it is a long shot from that to KDE apps on android | 00:23 |
| claydoh | nixternal: thats sort of my next question :) | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | as android cannot do regular qwidgets to my knowledge | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: my mom can do a rom :P | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | anyhow | 00:23 |
| nixternal | android has its own widgets, what would make qwidgets better? | 00:23 |
| claydoh | no, not apps just the look n feel, more or less | 00:23 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: patches to android as well if that counts for anything, just the browser so far | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | what all those ubuntus-for-you-name-it-phone ports have in common is lack of the most vital piece of software | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | namely the graphics driver | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | or rather the underlying libraries to make that thing faster | 00:24 |
| nixternal | if qt can make android better, then i am all for it, but at this point in time, i don't see how you could make the android interface any better...though qt could have their own stuff like htc does with the sense | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | clearly you are biased :P | 00:25 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: tegra2 has good graphics :) | 00:25 |
| * claydoh has no clue on these thing as he has no phone, and the mrs will not let him play with hers - he would probably "fix" too many things | 00:25 | |
| apachelogger | oh | 00:26 |
| apachelogger | did I mention that Phonon supports tegra2 | 00:26 |
| apachelogger | did I mention that qtmm does not | 00:26 |
| claydoh | nixternal: exzctly a kde or qt like layer like sense or touchwiz | 00:26 |
| claydoh | ok, is kde 4.6.1 expected for alpha3? | 00:27 |
| nixternal | time to eat, back in a few | 00:27 |
| * apachelogger thinks doing apps in Qt makes more sense than that | 00:27 | |
| apachelogger | especially since you would render all widgets useless | 00:28 |
| ScottK | claydoh: I don't think so. I think right after. | 00:31 |
| claydoh | so not much new for a3, outside of filesharing, and printer config, anf language selector kcm? | 00:34 |
| * apachelogger thinks that is plenty | 00:35 | |
| ScottK | Compiles on armel. | 00:35 |
| ScottK | Not clear if it works though. | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: are you attending the meeting tomorrow to get gcc stuff moving? | 00:35 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I'm planning on attending the Ubuntu platform team meeting and bringing it up there. | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | kthx | 00:35 |
| apachelogger | I shall look at the n900 kernel tomorrow | 00:36 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 00:36 |
| * apachelogger got a project management class from 8 to 13 -.- | 00:36 | |
| ScottK | It would be nice to get gcc fixed before we upload 4.6.1. | 00:36 |
| apachelogger | most definitely | 00:36 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: What bug is it we're after getting fixed? | 00:39 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: google gcc launchpad qt unity segfault | 00:39 |
| kubotu | Results for gcc launchpad qt unity segfault: 1. [Bug 705689] Re: unity-2d-launcher crashes with segfault error on ...: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg2734783.html | 2. [Bug 705689] Re: QT applications crash with segfault error on ...: http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg2740986.html | 00:39 |
| kubotu | 3. [ubuntu] "Segmentation fault" When install Nokia QT - Ubuntu Forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1609526 | 00:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 705689 in Linaro GCC 4.5 "Qt applications crash with segfault error on armel when Qt is built with gcc 4.5 on natty" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705689 | 00:39 |
| apachelogger | that one ^^ | 00:39 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 00:39 |
| apachelogger | I love how related stuff always comes up first in search results :D | 00:39 |
| apachelogger | stupid bug -.- | 00:40 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Maybe we could do some magic in pkg-kde-tools to force gcc 4.4 on armel until this is fixed for all KDE packages? | 00:42 |
| ScottK | Gotta run. | 00:42 |
| apachelogger | phonon would require manual fix at least | 00:43 |
| apachelogger | I do not think we are using pkg-kde-tools there | 00:43 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: worth considering though | 00:43 |
| apachelogger | qca might need a manual fix too | 00:44 |
| apachelogger | and strigi | 00:44 |
| apachelogger | that should get us to a working plasma-mobiel it would seem from ldd | 00:44 |
| c2tarun | Can anyone help me with this error: E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/private-ppa.launchpad.net_kubuntu-ninjas_ppa_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_source_Sources - open (2: No such file or directory) I got this when installing build-dependencies for attica. | 02:47 |
| c2tarun | Can anyone please help me with this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/574265/ | 03:17 |
| claydoh | c2tarun: do you have libqt4-qmake installed? No expert here, but you may be missing that package | 03:27 |
| c2tarun | claydoh: it is installed but not in build-depends of the package i'll add it there :) | 03:27 |
| c2tarun | claydoh: you sure its libqt4-qmake or qt4-qmake? | 03:29 |
| claydoh | my memory, bad as it is, vaguely remembers something similar from long ago..... | 03:30 |
| claydoh | iirc qt4-qmake, unless it is using qt3 | 03:30 |
| c2tarun | I looked on apt-cache search and it returned qt4-qmake. The problem is I installed it on my system and added it to build-depends of control file, still I am getting same erorr | 03:31 |
| claydoh | hmm may have to point it to wherever qmake is, | 03:36 |
| claydoh | hmmm pkg-kde-tools may have the helper scripts that , um, help, in finding kde/qt things iirc | 03:37 |
| c2tarun | claydoh: yup and I just checked FindQt4.cmake file is there, so either something wrong with FindQt4.cmake file or I am not able to understand the prob. | 03:37 |
| c2tarun | claydoh: I think the tool about which you are talking is apt-cache search? | 03:38 |
| claydoh | c2tarun: dunno, I *think* I needed pkg-kde-tools last time I set up building kmymoney, it couldn't find qmake iirc | 03:38 |
| c2tarun | claydoh: hmm... | 03:38 |
| claydoh | pkg-kde-tools have helper scripts/snippets specific | 03:39 |
| claydoh | for kde | 03:39 |
| claydoh | b ut again I really don't have a complete clue :) | 03:40 |
| c2tarun | claydoh: this error is due to something else or what? I tried another package and I got exactly same error :/ | 03:43 |
| claydoh | something is missing, but what I cann ot say :/ something qt related, obviously. did you install pkg-kde-tools? | 03:45 |
| c2tarun | claydoh: yup | 03:46 |
| claydoh | so all the experts and professionals must be asleep :/ | 03:48 |
| c2tarun | may be :P | 03:48 |
| claydoh | c2tarun: it has to be something simple | 03:48 |
| c2tarun | claydoh: I also think so, I asked on #ubuntu-motu as well, experts seems to be sleeping there as well :( | 03:49 |
| nhandler | x/55 | 03:49 |
| claydoh | what you building? | 03:49 |
| c2tarun | attica | 03:50 |
| cpatrick08 | /msg NickServ identify Bama08 | 03:50 |
| claydoh | nhandler: that some soper sekrit code? | 03:50 |
| claydoh | lolz | 03:50 |
| nhandler | claydoh: lol, nope. Just me messing up an irssi command ;) | 03:50 |
| claydoh | thats why I stick to quassel core pointy clicky | 03:51 |
| DarkwingDuck | Yeah, but then you can't do the run ssh server and always on and always accress | 03:59 |
| DarkwingDuck | *access | 03:59 |
| claydoh | DarkwingDuck: i do run ssh server, and a quassel core on my desktop, quassel client on my laptop | 04:00 |
| claydoh | so I always have a backlog to read | 04:01 |
| claydoh | c2tarun: soeey i have no answer for your problem, I know one of the fine devs will have it tho | 04:02 |
| claydoh | s/sorry/soeey | 04:02 |
| * claydoh sleeps | 04:03 | |
| c2tarun | claydoh: sure no prob :) thanks for helping | 04:06 |
| DarkwingDuck | c2tarun: what are you trying to do? | 04:07 |
| c2tarun | DarkwingDuck: building pckage attica | 04:08 |
| DarkwingDuck | You're trying to build it to a deb? | 04:08 |
| c2tarun | DarkwingDuck: I looked on this page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging there was a package named attica I thought to build it and upload it to ppa | 04:09 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'm still in baby mode for packaging... | 04:11 |
| c2tarun | DarkwingDuck: no prob :) well wait for an expert | 04:12 |
| * c2tarun experts ping | 04:12 | |
| DarkwingDuck | sorry c2tarun | 04:12 |
| c2tarun | DarkwingDuck: why sorry, I am a noob as well, just packed only few times :) dont worry | 04:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | :) | 04:16 |
| DarkwingDuck | Well, i've been around long enough that I should know by now. | 04:17 |
| c2tarun | DarkwingDuck: do you have a natty chroot? | 04:18 |
| DarkwingDuck | Not here I don't. | 04:18 |
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| === Guest86968 is now known as c2tarun | ||
| c2tarun | need help with this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/574265/ | 05:17 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: Qt qmake not found! | 06:45 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: which package? | 06:45 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: and you need to add qt4-qmake as a build depends | 06:45 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: all tried , package is attica | 06:47 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. | 06:47 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: try installing libqt4-dev | 06:47 |
| shadeslayer | and then try again | 06:47 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: its already installed. | 06:48 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: complete build log please then | 06:48 |
| shadeslayer | and what are you trying to do exactly | 06:48 |
| c2tarun | I was trying to build attica on natty machine, I got it from this page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging | 06:49 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: here is the full build log http://paste.ubuntu.com/574316/ | 06:50 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: i see 0.2.80 is already the latest release and in natty | 06:53 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/attica/0.2.80-0ubuntu2 | 06:53 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: actually I pulled it from natty archive only, and it failed to build on natty machine. | 06:54 |
| * shadeslayer tries | 06:54 | |
| shadeslayer | uhh | 06:56 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: compiles fine here | 06:56 |
| ulysses | - Mit rontottál el, ha a feleséged váratlanul bejön a konyhából és pofon vág? | 06:56 |
| ulysses | - ??? | 06:56 |
| ulysses | sorry | 06:56 |
| c2tarun | what?? | 06:56 |
| shadeslayer | ulysses: english please | 06:56 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: http://paste.kde.org/6187 | 06:56 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: how did you get the source code? apt-get? | 06:57 |
| shadeslayer | pull-lp-source attica | 06:57 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: I tried again, its no building on mine? | 06:58 |
| c2tarun | :( why so? | 06:58 |
| shadeslayer | lemme have a look at the full log | 06:59 |
| shadeslayer | eh | 06:59 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: paste the whole log, from the time pbuilder started downloading things | 06:59 |
| c2tarun | ehmm... I didn't used pbuilder, I build it on my natty and all build-deps are installed correctly | 07:00 |
| shadeslayer | err | 07:00 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: try debuild-pbuilder | 07:00 |
| shadeslayer | instead of debuild :) | 07:00 |
| shadeslayer | ( that install's any packages that are missing ) | 07:01 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: hmm.... but still mate my chroot not working might be a problem for me :( when I'll work on other package it will be a problem | 07:01 |
| shadeslayer | the problem is you don't have a build dep installed | 07:02 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: how do you build the package ? what command? | 07:02 |
| c2tarun | debuild -b -us -uc | 07:03 |
| shadeslayer | -b ?what does -b do? | 07:04 |
| shadeslayer | nothing in the man page | 07:05 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: it builds binary package | 07:05 |
| shadeslayer | Change the "-b" to "-S" to build only a source package. | 07:05 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 07:05 |
| shadeslayer | iirc debuild would inform you if the packages are not installed | 07:06 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: use a chroot to build packages .... | 07:06 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: I was inside chroot when I executed this command ;) | 07:07 |
| shadeslayer | uh... you have to run dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc to start the build | 07:08 |
| shadeslayer | not debuild | 07:08 |
| shadeslayer | so try that ^^ | 07:08 |
| * c2tarun trying | 07:08 | |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: actually debuild calls dpkg-buildpacakge for us. | 07:09 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: look at first line of manpage Description of debuild | 07:09 |
| shadeslayer | yes but i'm specifying more options :) | 07:10 |
| c2tarun | what I normally do is, first I build a package on a chroot. If it builds successfully than I test it on pbuilder. If chroot is not working properly this will be a problem for me :( | 07:10 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: so you have a seprate chroot and a seprate pbuilder? | 07:11 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: yup | 07:11 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: you know you can use your pbuilder as a clean chroot? | 07:11 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: yes, but pbuilder takes lots of time in installing every dependency each time I want to test. but chroot installs and save :) so I use chroot for buildin once and then finally I use pbuilder for testing :) | 07:12 |
| shadeslayer | well what i do for new packages is, log into my pbuilder, install stuff and build the package, so that i don't run into issues like these :P | 07:13 |
| c2tarun | obviously that is a better as it is saving disk space of one additional chroot :) | 07:14 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: pastebin output of dpkg -l | 07:15 |
| shadeslayer | from inside the chroot | 07:15 |
| shadeslayer | installing pastebinit will help in this case :D | 07:16 |
| c2tarun | what is pastebinit? | 07:16 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/6188/ | 07:17 |
| shadeslayer | !pastebinit | 07:17 |
| ubottu | pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com | 07:17 |
| c2tarun | wow :) | 07:18 |
| shadeslayer | weird, you have all the deps | 07:19 |
| shadeslayer | and yet it fails | 07:19 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: yep :( | 07:19 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: do you think we have to setup any env var for cmake errors? | 07:20 |
| shadeslayer | env var for cmake errors? no | 07:21 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 07:21 |
| c2tarun | any Qt related env var? | 07:21 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: cd to the src dir and then : mkdir build;cd build; cmake .. | 07:22 |
| shadeslayer | and pastebin the output | 07:22 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: sorry, not getting, which src directory? | 07:23 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: it should be called attica-0.2.80 | 07:23 |
| shadeslayer | the one which has the source code :) | 07:23 |
| c2tarun | ok then I should make build directory? | 07:24 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 07:24 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: http://paste.kde.org/6189/ | 07:25 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: mate I am very sorry to say I gotta go (its mahashivratri ;)) I'll back in couple of hours, very sorry. if you find anything please message me. Thank you :) | 07:27 |
| shadeslayer | yep.. sure ... i know it's shivratri today :P | 07:27 |
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| bambee | morning | 08:29 |
| shadeslayer | hey bambee | 08:31 |
| shadeslayer | morning | 08:32 |
| bambee | :) | 08:37 |
| hrw | morning | 08:45 |
| hrw | how to tell nepomuk to shut up? | 08:45 |
| hrw | I got 14GB of ~/.xsession-errors | 08:45 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: ping | 08:46 |
| bambee | hrw: systemsettings->desktop research | 08:50 |
| bambee | (or something like that) | 08:50 |
| bambee | then uncheck "Enable Nepomuk semantic Desktop" | 08:50 |
| hrw | bambee: I am fine with nepomuk working but I do not like GBs of logs generated by it | 08:51 |
| bambee | ohhh to shut up... I'm not awake yet xD | 08:52 |
| * bambee needs coffee | 08:52 | |
| * hrw needs a time to reconsider move to xfce | 08:52 | |
| hrw | kde 4.6 starts to be pain in the ass too much | 08:53 |
| hrw | and my desktop does not runs 1GHz atom | 08:53 |
| debfx | hrw: run kdebugdialog | 08:56 |
| hrw | thx | 08:57 |
| Tm_T | also this is not (mainly) a support channel... | 08:57 |
| hrw | ok | 08:58 |
| c2tarun | need help with this error http://paste.kde.org/6190/ , this package builds succesfully on shadeslayer's pbuilder. but It failed on my natty chroot why so? :( | 08:58 |
| * thebigcheese grumbles about win7 partitions not co/operating | 08:59 | |
| tsimpson | c2tarun: because pbuilder installs the needed build-deps, which you would need to do manually in a chroot | 09:10 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: I did that, my chroot satisfies the build-deps for the package. | 09:11 |
| tsimpson | line 24: Qt qmake not found! | 09:11 |
| tsimpson | does it have qt4-dev-tools? | 09:12 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: that lines requires qt4-dev-tools or qmake-qt4? | 09:13 |
| tsimpson | qmake is usually in qt4-dev-tools iirc | 09:13 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: ok, its not installed, but still I executed apt-get build-dep for the package. do you qt4-dev-tools should be included into build-Depends of the package? | 09:14 |
| tsimpson | run "dpkg-checkbuilddeps" from the extracted source and see if it complains | 09:14 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: nope it didn't complained | 09:15 |
| tsimpson | !find bin/qmake-qt4 | 09:17 |
| ubottu | File bin/qmake-qt4 found in libqt4-dbg, qt4-qmake | 09:17 |
| tsimpson | ok, it's qt4-qmake, not -dev-tools | 09:18 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: than qt4-qmake is installed on my system. | 09:19 |
| tsimpson | and in the chroot? | 09:19 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: by system I meant chroot :) sorry for wrong choice of words | 09:21 |
| tsimpson | odd | 09:31 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: yup :( still I am installing dev-tools as soon as it will be done, i'll try again | 09:33 |
| tsimpson | c2tarun: can you just check in the chroot what the outputs of "qmake -query QT_VERSION" and "qmake-qt4 -query QT_VERSION" are | 09:34 |
| tsimpson | (they both should be the same) | 09:35 |
| tsimpson | if both of those work in your chroot, then I can't see why FindQt4.cmake is failing | 09:35 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: sure I'll try that as soon as installation of qt4-dev-tools ends ;) | 09:35 |
| shadeslayer | tsimpson: for some reason it's not picking up qmake | 09:37 |
| * markey_nokia wonders why his QML Designer does not work in Creator... I must be missing some component | 09:46 | |
| markey_nokia | the icon always stays gray | 09:46 |
| markey_nokia | on Windows, it works fine | 09:46 |
| markey_nokia | and at home too | 09:46 |
| markey_nokia | *scratches beard* | 09:46 |
| shadeslayer | yeah there are different componentws | 09:47 |
| shadeslayer | *components | 09:47 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: qmake -query QT_VERSION **Unknown** and qmake-qt4 -query QT_VERSION 4.7.1 | 09:48 |
| shadeslayer | markey_nokia: http://paste.kde.org/6192 | 09:48 |
| tsimpson | c2tarun: I'm guessing that /usr/bin/qmake is the Qt3 qmake | 09:49 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: may be, how to fix that? | 09:50 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 09:50 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: remove qmake-qt3 :P | 09:50 |
| tsimpson | it's set from update-alternatives | 09:50 |
| shadeslayer | or that ^ | 09:51 |
| c2tarun | so I should just execute update-alternatives? | 09:51 |
| tsimpson | "sudo update-alternatives qmake" I think | 09:51 |
| tsimpson | erm "sudo update-alternatives --config qmake" | 09:51 |
| tsimpson | and choose qmake-qt4 | 09:51 |
| c2tarun | it worked :) actually how did you figured this out? | 09:53 |
| tsimpson | by reading the FindQt4.cmake file | 09:54 |
| tsimpson | it actually checks for "Unknown", but apparently not "**Unknown**" | 09:54 |
| c2tarun | I mean how didi you figured these two commands? "qmake -query QT_VERSION" and "qmake-qt4 -query QT_VERSION" | 09:54 |
| tsimpson | someone should go and fix that ;) | 09:54 |
| tsimpson | ^ by reading the FindQt4.cmake file | 09:54 |
| tsimpson | EXEC_PROGRAM(${QT_QMAKE_EXECUTABLE} ARGS "-query QT_VERSION" OUTPUT_VARIABLE QTVERSION) | 09:55 |
| tsimpson | that gets the output from (whatever QT_QMAKE_EXECUTABLE is) -query QT_VERSION | 09:55 |
| tsimpson | and FindQt4.cmake checks for qmake, qmake4, qmake-qt4, and qmake-mac | 09:56 |
| tsimpson | *in that order* | 09:56 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 09:56 |
| shadeslayer | in the past 2 days itself i've come to hate CMake | 09:57 |
| tsimpson | it checks if the output is "Unknown" and then looks for qmake4 and qmake-qt4 | 09:57 |
| markey_nokia | shadeslayer: thanks! | 09:57 |
| tsimpson | but apparently qmake-qt3 ouputs "**Unknown**"? | 09:57 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: just curious what language is in FindQt4.cmake file? | 09:57 |
| tsimpson | c2tarun: in cmake language | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | sure no problem | 09:58 |
| c2tarun | tsimpson: and you know cmake language. grt :) | 09:58 |
| tsimpson | I wouldn't say I *know* it, but I can read it :) | 09:58 |
| shadeslayer | oooh http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/ubuntu-live-cd-will-let-you-upgrade-to.html | 10:01 |
| shadeslayer | will we have that as well? | 10:01 |
| shadeslayer | the installer looks awesome now | 10:01 |
| c2tarun | on this page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging the packages not taken by anyone. what does it mean? they ftbfs on natty? | 10:01 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: what's not taken? | 10:05 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: the packages which dont have any name in fron of them | 10:06 |
| shadeslayer | i'll take up workspace | 10:06 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: the ones with dashes mean they have no new versions | 10:08 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: okey... and the with names in front of them? | 10:08 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: with a name infront of them ments that person should be working on it with the status which is in the next column | 10:11 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: ok and no names and no dashes? | 10:11 |
| Riddell | means nobody is working on it | 10:13 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: nobody is working and newer version is available upstream right? | 10:13 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: yes | 10:14 |
| c2tarun | okay so they are the only work that needs to be done. | 10:14 |
| Riddell | yes | 10:15 |
| c2tarun | gocha :) | 10:15 |
| c2tarun | there is package named kde-l10n. its not in natty but only in debian, how can i get the source code of that package? | 10:38 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: kde-l10n means the many packages one for each language, eg. kde-l10n-fr for french | 10:40 |
| Riddell | (debian put them all into one massive source package for some reason) | 10:40 |
| Riddell | packaging it needs lots of bandwidth, disk space and time | 10:40 |
| debfx | Riddell: bug #727386 has the list of kde3 packages (in case you haven't seen it) | 10:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 727386 in Ubuntu "Please remove several kde3 packages (source and binary)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727386 | 10:40 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: is there anything to do? I mean any package needs upgradation? | 10:41 |
| shadeslayer | dpkg-source: warning: ignoring deletion of file plasma/generic/runners/kill/plasma-runner-kill.desktop | 10:42 |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 10:42 |
| shadeslayer | i guess the tarball didn't uncompress properly .. | 10:42 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: sure, most of maverick | 10:43 |
| c2tarun | ok so i'll prepare a mav chroot first and then i'll pick one. thank you | 10:44 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: you can still use that ec2 machine | 10:44 |
| Riddell | it's still running | 10:44 |
| Riddell | ubuntu@ec2-50-16-53-139.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 10:44 |
| c2tarun | wow :) thanks | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | ec2++ | 10:45 |
| * c2tarun I'll take kdesdk | 10:47 | |
| c2tarun | what version should I set for kdesdk will this be ok? 4:4.6.0-0ubuntu3~maverick~ppa1 | 10:54 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: nope | 10:55 |
| Riddell | 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 | 10:55 |
| c2tarun | why ubuntu1? | 10:56 |
| Riddell | ubuntu1 is the version in the ubuntu archive, this is built from the first version in the ubuntu archive | 10:56 |
| c2tarun | ok, and why 4.6.1? | 10:57 |
| Riddell | 4.6.1 is the upstream KDE version | 10:57 |
| c2tarun | upstream version is 4.6.0 I guess. | 10:57 |
| Riddell | no it's 4.6.1 here | 10:57 |
| Riddell | 4.6.0 is the old version and 4.6.1 is the new release we're packaging | 10:57 |
| shadeslayer | oh crapz | 10:58 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what have you done? | 10:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: nothing serious | 10:58 |
| c2tarun | hmm... there is no watch file in there. from where can I get the latest version? | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i'm copying kdebindings 4.5.90 to ninja's | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | er | 10:59 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: from ktown | 10:59 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: actually, apt-get source it | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | to make kdebase-workspace work | 10:59 |
| Riddell | you'll get the natty version from natty PPA | 10:59 |
| shadeslayer | ~np | 11:00 |
| kubotu | shadeslayer_ is listening to "04 Mumford And Sons - Roll Away Your Stone" by [unknown] -- see http://www.last.fm/user/shadeslayer_ for more | 11:00 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: something is wrong :/ are you aware that I am working with kdesdk package? | 11:01 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: ok, sorry natty ppa is not enabled on that ec2 | 11:01 |
| shadeslayer | y u timeout launchpad | 11:01 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: i'll get that enabled. | 11:01 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: it should be, it's in sources.list | 11:02 |
| c2tarun | well yeah its there... :/ still on apt-get source I got version 4.6.0 | 11:03 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: ^^ | 11:03 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: try an apt-get update | 11:05 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: got one :) | 11:06 |
| bambee | kubuntu desktop amd64 (20110302) tested => it works just fine here | 11:12 |
| * c2tarun hooo kdesdk is quite big package taking lots of time in building | 11:20 | |
| Riddell | c2tarun: yes, kdetoys is one of the few small ones | 11:21 |
| * shadeslayer just registered for the Desktop Summit | 11:26 | |
| shadeslayer | hmm .. can anyone open the build log here : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2295261 | 11:37 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes, opens in ark | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer | i cant :S | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 11:39 |
| shadeslayer | stupid chromium | 11:39 |
| tazz | shadeslayer, opes in ff | 11:40 |
| shadeslayer | yeah chromium issue iirc | 11:40 |
| shadeslayer | oooh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VisI7VWwL_g&feature=autofb | 11:41 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: contextless youtube link, what is it? | 11:44 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: it's a ad for QML | 11:44 |
| Riddell | I wonder what the phone is in that advert, presumably an unspecified non-existing device to put Qt onto | 11:46 |
| shadeslayer | Looked like the N900 to me | 11:47 |
| shadeslayer | er | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: should " Debian, supply most of our packages" be changed to " Debian, supplies most of our packages" ? | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer | on kubuntu.org | 11:58 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yeah can do | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | kewl :D | 11:59 |
| Riddell | I also had a request to put GNU on there but I think we can't list every upstream | 12:01 |
| shadeslayer | yeah .. | 12:01 |
| shadeslayer | any idea's on how to fix kdebindings 4.5.90 | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | i feel like i'm banging my head against a wall when i look at kdebindings | 12:03 |
| Riddell | I'm not sure you can, if it doesn't compile with kdelibs 4.6 | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | in that case .. no kdebase-workspace for now | 12:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ah hah, it's smoke and ksambashare | 12:06 |
| Riddell | there's a patch for that in natty packages | 12:06 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: try applying the patch to 4.5.90 | 12:06 |
| Riddell | kubuntu_05_ksambasharedata.diff | 12:07 |
| Riddell | hi bambee, I take it you haven't come across bug 726581 in your testing? | 12:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 726581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "install stops half way through" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726581 | 12:09 |
| bambee | Riddell: nop, install finished correctly without any errors | 12:11 |
| Riddell | bambee: you're done two test installs right? | 12:12 |
| bambee | right "entire disk" and "manual partitionning" | 12:12 |
| bambee | both worked | 12:12 |
| Riddell | so I wonder if that bug only happens on i386 | 12:13 |
| Riddell | trying amd64 now to see if I get it there or not | 12:13 |
| bambee | strange | 12:13 |
| c2tarun | just curious, what is the maximum time any package took to build? | 12:14 |
| JontheEchidna | nixternal: lol, the pissing commences: http://nowwhatthe.blogspot.com/2011/03/libreoffice-and-opensuse-114.html | 12:15 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: qt takes about 18 hours on ARM | 12:15 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: Jos really likes to slag off Canonical recently | 12:16 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, it's become real obvious as of late | 12:16 |
| jussi | Perhaps with his new job on the other side of the fence, his influences are such that it happens | 12:17 |
| JontheEchidna | I think it's rather unbecoming of somebody in that position | 12:18 |
| Riddell | agreed | 12:18 |
| jussi | JontheEchidna: I tend to agree, however, when you spend a lot of time with persons who are biased, you often become so yourself. | 12:18 |
| jussi | Oh yeah, that reminds me, I need to file a bug. What package do I file against for bugs in the partitioning part of the installer? | 12:19 |
| JontheEchidna | I've never seen anything but respect from his counterpart on the Ubuntu side of things, and especially I've not seen thinly-veiled insults from Jono | 12:19 |
| JontheEchidna | s/insults/insinuations | 12:20 |
| Riddell | in other news some chap called Mark Shuttleworth just created an account on identity.kde.org :) | 12:21 |
| bambee | Riddell: I will test for i386 this afternoon | 12:21 |
| bambee | just in case | 12:21 |
| bambee | but I'm sure it worked just fine this morning | 12:21 |
| JontheEchidna | bambee: oh, I wanted to tell you something I noticed about language-selector | 12:22 |
| JontheEchidna | I think it would make a lot of sense to at least check the "Translations" component checkbox when you first select a language from the install list | 12:22 |
| jussi | Riddell: epic :D | 12:23 |
| JontheEchidna | since probably all usecases of installing lang support include installing translations | 12:23 |
| bambee | JontheEchidna: indeed... I agree | 12:23 |
| Riddell | I think they should all be ticked | 12:24 |
| Riddell | rarely do you want only some language support | 12:24 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: can you take a look at that ec2 machine. | 12:24 |
| JontheEchidna | even better :) | 12:24 |
| JontheEchidna | bbiab | 12:24 |
| bambee | JontheEchidna: I'll fix it this afternoon | 12:24 |
| bambee | (it's a bug fix... so I can right ?) | 12:25 |
| bambee | :) | 12:25 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: library symbols breakage! | 12:25 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: never encountered one. any documentation on it? | 12:26 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: since it didn't happen when compiling on natty I conclude it happens because of the different gcc compiler version | 12:27 |
| Riddell | (the other reason this would happen is if the source code to the libraries was changed such that it changed the symbols, but that would have shown up on natty) | 12:27 |
| c2tarun | what do you mean by symbols | 12:27 |
| c2tarun | ? | 12:27 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: symbols are the items in programming libraries (libkastencore4 in this case) which get used by programmes | 12:28 |
| Riddell | if they change you usually need to recompile all the programmes which use that library | 12:28 |
| Riddell | change or get removed, new symbols are fine | 12:28 |
| c2tarun | but I think compilation end up here succesfully. | 12:28 |
| Riddell | in this case the change is only due to the different compiler on maverick so I don't think it's worth worrying about it | 12:29 |
| Riddell | easy workaround is rm debian/*symbols | 12:30 |
| Riddell | then run debuild -nc to continue the package building | 12:30 |
| Riddell | you could also run batchpatch as described here http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html | 12:30 |
| c2tarun | I am still not getting a bit, symbols are used by the programs right? then how can we simply replace the symbols file without any proper replacement? | 12:32 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: ^^ | 12:32 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: the .symbols file is a check for packagers to ensure no symbols have been changed or removed | 12:33 |
| Riddell | if we were packaging for natty and symbols had been changed or removed (as happened with kdenetwork) we would need to consult with upstream what to do | 12:33 |
| Riddell | but here they have been removed (compared to natty) because of the different gcc version, so I'm happy to ignore the issue | 12:34 |
| c2tarun | ok, got it :) i'll remove the symbols file | 12:34 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer, yofel: dot editors are discussing publishing the neon story, if you don't want it published best tell them | 12:37 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: should I mention removing symbols file in d/changelog? | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: tell them not to publish it atm | 13:07 |
| bambee | JontheEchidna: language-selector checkboxes are checked automatically only when the corresponding language component is installed actually... so if "transactions" isn't installed but checked as default it's confusing | 13:12 |
| bambee | nop ? | 13:13 |
| bambee | I understood what you meant earlier...but how make differences ? | 13:13 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: yeah | 13:18 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: I am changing my name in changelog but while rebuild source package its getting reset. What should I do? I mean how to run debuild -S | 13:23 |
| * Quintasan wonders why there is no RAID and/or LVM creation option in the graphical installer | 13:28 | |
| yofel | good, kdegraphics builds without libkexiv2-9.symbols | 13:30 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: ? just run debuild -S | 13:30 |
| Riddell | your name needs to match the one on your gpg key | 13:31 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: I am doing that, but when I am trying to sign the package form my system, I am not able to sing and getting this error gpg: skipped "Kubuntu Developers <kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>": secret key not available | 13:31 |
| apachelogger | http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/why-apachelogger-loves-qt-and-phonon.mkv | 13:33 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: ping | 13:33 |
| JontheEchidna | bambee: in the install tab, when you click on an uninstalled language you have to manually tick the "Components:" chechboxes to install anything | 13:34 |
| JontheEchidna | which is a bit confusing since the apply button is clickable at that point | 13:34 |
| bambee | JontheEchidna: yes and if you click on a partial installed language "installed components" wil be checked... so it's confusing :) | 13:35 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: what command are you running to sign it? | 13:35 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: debsign -r ubuntu@ec2-50-16-53-139.compute-1.amazonaws.com:~/kdesdk/kdesdk_4.6.1-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1.dsc | 13:35 |
| bambee | JontheEchidna: the apply button shouldn't be clickable if nothing is checked indeed... | 13:35 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: it's the .changes file you want | 13:35 |
| bambee | I agree about that | 13:35 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: I dont think this command is a prob, the prob is what in dsc file | 13:35 |
| Riddell | kdesdk_4.6.1-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1_source.changes | 13:36 |
| c2tarun | not .dsc but changes? | 13:36 |
| JontheEchidna | bambee: perhaps all components should just be installed by default, and the checkboxes aren't shown on the install tab, but only on the uninstall tab? | 13:36 |
| bambee | in this cases gtk frontend features are useless ... | 13:37 |
| JontheEchidna | well, it is gtk ;-) | 13:37 |
| JontheEchidna | they are not known for their usefulness :P | 13:37 |
| bambee | lol | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: wow | 13:37 |
| shadeslayer | so it's trivial to make a media player now :P | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 13:37 |
| apachelogger | screw dragon, you can now build your own player in like 30 seconds ^^ | 13:38 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 13:38 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: you should do a blog in response to rspencer's make-a-media-player-in-10-minutes-with-Quickly blogs | 13:38 |
| apachelogger | ah | 13:39 |
| JontheEchidna | that are all the time on planet ubuntu | 13:39 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: its signed :) you wanna take a look before I upload it? | 13:39 |
| * apachelogger is not following the planets no moar | 13:39 | |
| JontheEchidna | http://theravingrick.blogspot.com/2011/01/quickly-tutorial-for-natty-diy-media.html | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | oh | 13:41 |
| apachelogger | canonical is raping gnome | 13:41 |
| bambee | JontheEchidna: so to install just extra fonts for "chinese" I should install everything... then uninstall not wanted components ? | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: what would one be blogging in response? | 13:42 |
| bambee | even more confusing | 13:42 |
| apachelogger | "10 minutes? I have better things to do... [inser video]" | 13:42 |
| JontheEchidna | bambee: I would think that most users don't care and don't even have to know that extra fonts are being installed | 13:43 |
| JontheEchidna | they just know that if they click chinese and hit apply, then things will work | 13:43 |
| JontheEchidna | and if the user does care, then he can uninstall the extra fonts in the uninstall tab | 13:44 |
| JontheEchidna | in my opinion, anyway | 13:44 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: how to create a media player in 30 seconds | 13:45 |
| bambee | no other opinions about that ? both point of views are correct... I think... nop ? | 13:47 |
| bambee | JontheEchidna: you point of view is interesting and correct, but apply changes like that in a bugfix... | 13:47 |
| bambee | (the change is trivial to do, but it's not really a bugfix... it's a feature change) | 13:48 |
| bambee | imho | 13:49 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: kk | 13:49 |
| bambee | however if nothing is selected "apply" shouldn't be clickable, and in this case it's a bug fix | 13:49 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, that definitely should be fixed | 13:49 |
| JontheEchidna | you could put the question out for wider changes to the mailing list if you need more input on that | 13:50 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe we all can come up with a new GUI design that's inherently less confusing ;-) | 13:50 |
| JontheEchidna | there's no law that says we have to slave to copy what the GNOME gui did :P | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | sure there is | 13:51 |
| apachelogger | the law of canonical making money with youbuntoo :P | 13:51 |
| bambee | originally it was required by "the chief" :P | 13:51 |
| bambee | mhhh anyway, I'll fix the "apply problem" and ask feedbacks on the mailing list :) | 13:53 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: hmm, the changelog should include the natty changelog entry too, below your entry for maverick | 13:54 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: yup something went wrong with the changelog, I just noticed. working on it | 13:55 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: I copied the changelog file from the previous version again and edited it and when trying to rebuild the source package I am getting some error, can't we simply copy the changelog? | 13:59 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: yes you can copy the old one, then add the new changelog entry for maverick | 14:01 |
| Riddell | cp ../orig/kdesdk-4.6.1/debian/changelog debian/changelog | 14:01 |
| Riddell | dch -newversion 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 "Maverick backport" | 14:01 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: backportpackage tool from ubuntu-dev-tools | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | w00t | 14:03 |
| shadeslayer | kdebindings is past the FTBFS point | 14:03 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: Why is it that my changelog replacing somethings from the previous changelog even when I am executing dch -i please take a look at kdesdk.debdiff file | 14:07 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: hmm? | 14:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: awooga | 14:09 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: run screen -x | 14:09 |
| Riddell | then I can see what you're doing | 14:09 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: can you see now? | 14:10 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: I saw you discuss about backporting package, I just wanted to suggest check this script. | 14:10 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: yes | 14:10 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: try again to reset the changelog | 14:10 |
| nixternal | awooga! to early in the morning for an awooga | 14:11 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: you're starting from the 4.6.0 changelog | 14:13 |
| Riddell | you want to start from the 4.6.1 one | 14:13 |
| Riddell | which is in ~/kdesdk/orig/kdesdk-4.6.1/debian/changelog | 14:13 |
| bambee | Riddell: btw I used a virtual machine for my tests, and it works fine with i386 | 14:16 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: change "New upstream release" to "maverick backport" | 14:16 |
| Riddell | bambee: can you add that you used a virtual machine to bug 726581 | 14:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 726581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "install stops half way through" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726581 | 14:16 |
| c2tarun | maverick backport , OK | 14:16 |
| bambee | Riddell: ok | 14:17 |
| shadeslayer | kdebindings uploaded | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | but they're the old ones | 14:21 |
| shadeslayer | fffff | 14:21 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: looking good | 14:24 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: yup :) | 14:24 |
| Riddell | go for upload to ppa:kubuntu-ninjas | 14:24 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: its done :) | 14:26 |
| Riddell | great, well done | 14:29 |
| JontheEchidna | Neat, KOrg got 4/5 stars from a gnome user: http://i.imgur.com/IKtp6.png | 14:30 |
| shadeslayer | interesting | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: where are the reviews sent? | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | or are these written on packages.ubuntu.com and sync'd from there? | 14:31 |
| JontheEchidna | shadeslayer: currently muon doesn't support sending reviews, but Ubuntu has a reviews server | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | OR .... from ubuntu software center? | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 14:32 |
| JontheEchidna | Muon and USC grab reviews from there | 14:32 |
| shadeslayer | neato | 14:32 |
| JontheEchidna | Only USC can send reviews to the server, but hopefully Muon will too in a bit | 14:32 |
| JontheEchidna | I'll have to figure out their Ubuntu SSO magic for that to happen | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 14:33 |
| JontheEchidna | might be a GSoC project, since a KDE SSO frontend is also needed for Ubuntu One | 14:33 |
| shadeslayer | add it to the wiki page :P | 14:36 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: good enough http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screenshots/snapshot155.png | 14:37 |
| JontheEchidna | <3 | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | also | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntu-sso-client/kdeui | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | kdeui to sso | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | surely they broke the api completely by now, so you will have to redo the gluing | 14:38 |
| apachelogger | but widgets should be pretty reusable | 14:38 |
| JontheEchidna | gluing was what I was most worried about | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | I just sipped it | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | that way ubuntu-sso-client just needs to load the kdeui pyth0rn module | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | which in turn sips c++ | 14:39 |
| apachelogger | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/ubuntu-sso-client/kdeui/files/head:/src/python/ | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | well defined interfaces are key :D | 14:40 |
| apachelogger | http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/how-to-create-a-media-player-in-30-seconds/ | 14:44 |
| JontheEchidna | so most of the SSO magic happens over a DBus interface in the sso gui? | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | aye | 14:45 |
| * apachelogger explicitly requested dbus as they wanted to use sockets :S | 14:45 | |
| apachelogger | quite frankly the design is a bit inside out though | 14:46 |
| * apachelogger would have done something like polkit | 14:46 | |
| apachelogger | to completely separate the logic from the ui | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | but oh well :S | 14:46 |
| JontheEchidna | lol sockets | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | cant always get what you want I suppose | 14:46 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: exactly | 14:47 |
| JontheEchidna | I found this code in synaptic that sends file descriptors over sockets: http://paste.ubuntu.com/574486/ | 14:48 |
| JontheEchidna | I sort've just laughed and cried and looked away | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | ohlulz | 14:48 |
| shadeslayer | did someone say sockets | 14:49 |
| JontheEchidna | and that's not even the worst part | 14:49 |
| JontheEchidna | to actually read/write the fd's, they use this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/574488/ | 14:49 |
| JontheEchidna | I've never seen unions used outside of an academic application before this | 14:49 |
| shadeslayer | http://paste.kde.org/~shadeslayer/4668/ | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | muwhaha | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | this one is better http://paste.kde.org/~shadeslayer/6050/ | 14:50 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: guess what we use to login into the server from a windows machine? | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | putty? | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | telnet | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 14:52 |
| shadeslayer | yeah ... and emacs and vim are all screwed up | 14:52 |
| JontheEchidna | I shall send you a telegram with my login credentials | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | oh guess what the server is running | 14:53 |
| JontheEchidna | please respond verifying my access rights | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | what .. ? :D | 14:53 |
| JontheEchidna | I was making fun of telnet as being as ancient as telegrams | 14:53 |
| shadeslayer | ah .. lol | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | that is not true! | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | telnet is a lot older | 14:54 |
| JontheEchidna | gopher is da bomb | 14:54 |
| shadeslayer | The server runs the 2.6.18 Version of the linux kernel... the machine itself is a redhat server | 14:54 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: what sort of experiment is this anyway? | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the socket program? | 14:55 |
| apachelogger | around here we have to implement our own sockets before being able to do that sorta stuff :S | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | it's one of the program's from my Computer Network Lab | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | whoa | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you're pursuing BS or MS? | 14:55 |
| shadeslayer | because this is undergrad coursework | 14:56 |
| * JontheEchidna is always in pursuit of bulls**t | 14:56 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: BS | 14:56 |
| JontheEchidna | :P | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: lol | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | :D | 14:56 |
| shadeslayer | lul | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | that was 2nd semester stuff actually | 14:56 |
| apachelogger | let me digg up some snapshot tar | 14:56 |
| * apachelogger has old stuff all tared up in tars of tars | 14:57 | |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: well ... i'm a ECE student, so they don't take us into the depths of that stuff | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | oh right, crypot in asm was also fun | 14:57 |
| shadeslayer | i did start reading the awesome tutorial at beej.us | 14:57 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/574489/ | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 14:58 |
| shadeslayer | the only thing i ever wrote in asm was small programs for the 8085 chip in our lab | 14:59 |
| * apachelogger cannot find the flipping tar with the server | 15:00 | |
| JontheEchidna | I'm taking an embedded microsystems course this semester that's all about ASM | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | actually I just remembered we then implemented http ontop of it :) | 15:00 |
| * apachelogger fires up locate | 15:00 | |
| apachelogger | ah | 15:00 |
| apachelogger | http://paste.ubuntu.com/574493/ | 15:01 |
| JontheEchidna | we each have an EVBU (Motorolla 68HC11 processor) for running our code | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | seems to be an older version | 15:01 |
| apachelogger | judging from allt he not implemented that is :D | 15:02 |
| JontheEchidna | speaking of which I need to write up a lab report for Embedded Microsystems, since it is due this afternoon :< | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | wow | 15:02 |
| * JontheEchidna stops slacking | 15:02 | |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I also add comments about where in the spec the stuff is coming from BTW | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | yeah i can see that | 15:02 |
| shadeslayer | lol line 183 | 15:03 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: oh, have fun with that :P | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Socket programing is fun | 15:03 |
| shadeslayer | even more so when you implement everything on your own | 15:04 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: we recently learned how to use subroutines, and are now using them to output text to a console | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | not if you need to do it in C++ | 15:04 |
| * apachelogger finds it most distrubing to do that sorta stuff in C++ | 15:04 | |
| shadeslayer | never tried socket programming in C++ | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: ooh.. nice | 15:04 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: so you are now working on a gameboy clone I suppose? | 15:04 |
| shadeslayer | subroutines are awesome | 15:05 |
| JontheEchidna | The first time I tried to use them I accidentally JMP'd to the subroutine instead of JSR, so I never returned from the subroutine :S | 15:05 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 15:05 |
| * apachelogger does that with threads in Qt ^^ | 15:05 | |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: 2 MHZ clock (8 external) and 512 bytes of RAM, half of which is taken up by the OS | 15:05 |
| JontheEchidna | We have 0000 - 0041 for stack, and 0100 to 01FF for RAM | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | you have the best intentions and want to introduce some threading ... and suddenly you find yourself in a deadlock and realize that you did not start thread execution ;) | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | lol | 15:06 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | hm | 15:06 |
| Riddell | /win 15 | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: plenty of space | 15:06 |
| Riddell | tsk | 15:06 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: get a proper client | 15:06 |
| JontheEchidna | apachelogger: oh yeah, I don't expect to run out any time soon | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | yeah each program is only a few bytes | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | you don't need to run X on it:P | 15:07 |
| JontheEchidna | last lab we made a function generator that outputted a sin wave to an oscilliscope | 15:07 |
| shadeslayer | ooh | 15:07 |
| * shadeslayer can do that with a Arduino | 15:08 | |
| apachelogger | that entirely reminds me of that cpu emulator we had assignments on | 15:08 |
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| apachelogger | kubotu: google x-toy assembler harald sitter | 15:08 |
| kubotu | Results for x-toy assembler harald sitter: 1. Harald Sitter :: Weblog :: X-Toy (Assembler): http://tugll.tugraz.at/91675/weblog/10468.html | 2. Harald Sitter :: Weblog: http://tugll.tugraz.at/91675/weblog/ | 3. Harald Sitter :: Weblog :: It's a pointer world: http://tugll.tugraz.at/91675/weblog/9289.html | 15:08 |
| JontheEchidna | we had a table with the y-coords, and used a delay subroutine to control the x coords | 15:08 |
| apachelogger | that one | 15:08 |
| agateau | afiestas: ping | 15:09 |
| shadeslayer | sadly the indian education system has been stuck in the 90's | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | the 90's werent that bad | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | netscape | 15:10 |
| apachelogger | windows 95 and 98 | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | no google empire around | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | KDE 1 | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | birth of linux | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | plenty of good things | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | yeah .. but none of those were taken up :) | 15:11 |
| shadeslayer | as you can see .. we still telnet into a red hat server from the 90's | 15:11 |
| apachelogger | I blieve 90% of the redhat servers are from the 90s :P | 15:12 |
| apachelogger | rocksolid(tm) | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | yeah but atleast they don't run the .18 kernel :P | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | and i mean ... 2.18 | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | er | 15:12 |
| shadeslayer | 2.5.18 | 15:13 |
| agateau | shadeslayer: worse kernel was 2.4.11 btw | 15:14 |
| agateau | it's even labelled as "don't use" :) | 15:14 |
| agateau | see http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.4/ | 15:14 |
| agateau | those were the days :) | 15:14 |
| apachelogger | emit giggle(); | 15:14 |
| * apachelogger enhances apachelogger.h | 15:14 | |
| shadeslayer | haha | 15:15 |
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| afiestas | agateau: pong | 15:39 |
| agateau | afiestas: just wanted to tell you your appmenu issues should be fixed now | 15:40 |
| agateau | afiestas: including firefox integration | 15:40 |
| afiestas | wow nice! I had to install arch because the X stack was highly unstable :/ | 15:40 |
| afiestas | in a few days I will switch back I guess, I will give you feedback then | 15:41 |
| agateau | afiestas: ok, keep me posted | 15:41 |
| * c2tarun taking kdeutils | 15:48 | |
| c2tarun | with kdeutils library libqjson-dev I am not able to install the build-deps of kdeutils, Can I get it from somewhere outside? | 15:54 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: it may need universe to be enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list# | 15:56 |
| markey | re | 15:57 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: universe enabled and updated the system, still same error | 15:59 |
| Quintasan | wtf | 16:01 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: ah, libqjson-dev (>= 0.7.1-1ubuntu1) but we have 0.7.1-1ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 | 16:01 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: just put a ~ on the end of the version number in debian/control | 16:02 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/sgKBP.png <--- any idea on that? | 16:03 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: looks like a virtual machine of some sort? | 16:04 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: same problem | 16:04 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: Yeah, more than that I wonder about the error, any idea who should I bother when fresh maverick install on KVM fails to load like that? | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | at some point in the maverick cycle ubuntu didn't boot in KVM | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | but iirc it was solved | 16:06 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: I installed libqjson-dev and now it doesn't complain about needing it | 16:06 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: installing needs some sort of refresh or reset? | 16:07 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: no | 16:08 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: and by rmadison it shows in maverick repo we have version 0.7.1-1 and 0.7.1-1ubuntu1 is required | 16:08 |
| c2tarun | so I think adding ~ at the end wont do, I have to remove ubuntu1? | 16:09 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: 0.7.1-1ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 is in kubuntu-ppa/backports | 16:10 |
| Riddell | and ought to be in ninjas too, probably needs someone to copy it | 16:10 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: oh ya | 16:10 |
| c2tarun | ok then I am still getting error :( | 16:11 |
| Riddell | what error? | 16:12 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: E: Build-Depends dependency for kdeutils cannot be satisfied because no available versions of package libqjson-dev can satisfy version requirements | 16:12 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: this is on the ec2 machine? | 16:13 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: yup | 16:13 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: when I run debuild in kdeutils it says dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libgmp3-dev libsnmp-dev libarchive-dev liblzma-dev pkg-config libzip-dev python-dev | 16:14 |
| Riddell | nothing about qjson | 16:14 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: try installing the build dependencies by sudo apt-get build-dep kdeutils | 16:15 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: ah but that doesn't read debian/control it reads the apt list which isn't necessarily what you want | 16:16 |
| Riddell | so just install them by hand with apt-get install | 16:17 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: what apt list? | 16:17 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: No RobbieW at today's meeting and no idea from doko about when it'll be fixed. I think we need to go with 4.4 as we discussed. | 16:17 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: run debuild | 16:17 |
| Riddell | it will complain about what isn't installed | 16:18 |
| c2tarun | ok, sure | 16:18 |
| c2tarun | is this versio correct? 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1 | 16:24 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Looks like next week we'll likely have the fix. | 16:27 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I think we need to change pkg-kde-tools to use gcc4.4 on armel for now. | 16:27 |
| kunal | hello | 16:29 |
| kunal | i am using the debian folder from bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu | 16:30 |
| debfx | ScottK: what about qt packages that don't use pkg-kde-tools? | 16:30 |
| kunal | where can i get the kdelibs 4.6.1 tar file | 16:30 |
| kunal | i was not able to find in ubuntu archive | 16:31 |
| kunal | it's having 4.6.0 | 16:31 |
| ScottK | debfx: We'll need to touch those one by one. | 16:31 |
| ScottK | kunal: We haven't uploaded 4.6.1 yet. | 16:31 |
| kunal | ScottK: ok | 16:31 |
| kunal | ScottK: i wanted to create a patch for remove direct GL dependency in libplasma | 16:33 |
| kunal | ScottK: i should use the previous version from bzr? | 16:33 |
| ScottK | I'm not the best one to ask. | 16:33 |
| Riddell | kunal: you should use the source from KDE git | 16:34 |
| kunal | ScottK: ok, thanks | 16:34 |
| Riddell | ScottK: "Looks like next week we'll likely have the fix" does that mean gcc 4.5 will have the fix uploaded next week? | 16:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: It's supposed to be in the Linaro GCC release on Tuesday. doko usually updates GCC in Ubuntu very quickly after that. | 16:35 |
| kunal | Riddell: ok, mainline without patches in debian folder? | 16:36 |
| ScottK | We definitely won't have it for 4.6.1 though. | 16:36 |
| Riddell | ScottK: so it doesn't seem worth adding it to pkg-kde-tools then, I don't think we want to recompile everything one week then do it again next week | 16:36 |
| Riddell | kunal: what is this patch for? | 16:36 |
| ScottK | Riddell: You're stuck either way. | 16:37 |
| ScottK | If you use 4.5 now, everything will need a rebuild on arm to work. If you use 4.4 now, everything will need a rebuild on arm to use 4.5. | 16:37 |
| Riddell | true | 16:37 |
| kunal | Riddell:remove direct GL dependency in libplasma | 16:37 |
| Riddell | kunal: is that for upstream? or some need within ubuntu? | 16:37 |
| ScottK | If we use 4.4 then we at least have something working in the meantime. | 16:38 |
| kunal | Riddell: it's already in mainline, need to add to ubuntu natty package | 16:38 |
| Riddell | kunal: it's already upstream? | 16:38 |
| kunal | Riddell: yes | 16:38 |
| Riddell | kunal: and why do we want it in natty? | 16:39 |
| Riddell | ScottK: are you able to make that change then? | 16:40 |
| kunal | Riddell: to "Bringup Plasma Desktop with GLES2 on ARM platforms" | 16:41 |
| ScottK | Riddell: I was hoping apachelogger would do it. | 16:41 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: is ScottK's hopefullness going to work? | 16:42 |
| Riddell | kunal: are you an ubuntu developer? | 16:42 |
| kunal | Riddell: Linaro Developer Platform | 16:43 |
| Riddell | kunal: what's your launchpad id? I can add you to the kubuntu-ninjas team to give you access to the 4.6.1 packages | 16:43 |
| kunal | Riddell: goelkunal | 16:43 |
| kunal | Riddell: thanks for providing access | 16:44 |
| Riddell | kunal: ok I've added you to the team, you can get 4.6.1 from the super secret PPA https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa | 16:46 |
| Riddell | and do merge requests on the lp:~kubuntu-members/kdelibs/ubuntu branch if you have a patch for us | 16:46 |
| kunal | Riddell: thanks, i'll make changes and send merge proposal | 16:47 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i could do a webbrowser in 30 seconds :P | 16:54 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Would it suck less than rekonq? | 16:56 |
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| shadeslayer | ScottK: no idea... but it would definitely NOT have all the features rekonq has :) | 17:11 |
| ScottK | Hopefully it would not have the one where when a user asks to close a window, it decided it knows better and doesn't do it. | 17:12 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | yeah it's a known bug :P | 17:13 |
| shadeslayer | kdebase up up and away | 17:14 |
| debfx | ScottK: what's you opinion on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/707794/comments/15 ? | 17:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 707794 in koffice (Ubuntu) "libqt4-opengl on armel should be compiled with OpenGL ES 2.x support" [High,Triaged] | 17:14 |
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| debfx | maybe calling qCritical() would be better | 17:15 |
| ScottK | debfx: Sounds reasonable. | 17:15 |
| ScottK | It wasn't supposed to break the ABI. | 17:15 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: tried the Qt port for android yet? | 17:16 |
| Riddell | debfx: what's the difference between qFatal and qCritical? | 17:18 |
| debfx | Riddell: qFatal aborts the application | 17:19 |
| debfx | qCritical just prints a message | 17:19 |
| Riddell | I'd go with fatal, if there's a problem we should know about it | 17:21 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: I packaed kdeutils, Can you please take a look | 17:26 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: looks good | 17:28 |
| c2tarun | ok, so I'll upload it :) | 17:28 |
| Riddell | yes | 17:29 |
| c2tarun | Thanks for ec2 :) | 17:29 |
| Riddell | claydoh: how's the release page and technicalOverview doing? | 17:35 |
| Riddell | buenos noches toscalix | 17:36 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: which kdebase is up and away? | 17:36 |
| Riddell | I assumed you ment maverick backport but https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging says not | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | did'nt i just update it | 17:37 |
| shadeslayer | workspace | 17:37 |
| Riddell | ah, workspace isn't kdebase :) | 17:38 |
| shadeslayer | kdebase-workspace | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | you're kidding right? :D | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | it's a subfolder of kdebase ... or that's what i thought | 17:41 |
| yofel | well, 4.7 will fix that misunderstanding at least ^^ | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 17:42 |
| Riddell | yes it's kde-workspace in git I think | 17:44 |
| yofel | it is | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 17:45 |
| * yofel is getting tired of QETWidget::translateXI2Event crashes | 17:53 | |
| Riddell | yofel: cnd on #u-d is the guy to poke | 17:55 |
| yofel | might do that, plasma-desktop and other things crash randomly here, at least 10 crashes per hour | 17:57 |
| * shadeslayer hugs his maverick install | 17:59 | |
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| toscalix | Riddell: buenas noches :-) | 18:15 |
| toscalix | Riddell: from a kubuntu Lucid | 18:16 |
| debfx | Riddell: can I somehow opt out of receiving kubuntu-bugs membership mails? | 18:17 |
| Riddell | debfx: how are you in the kubuntu-bugs team? | 18:17 |
| debfx | Riddell: directly | 18:19 |
| ScottK | Isn't the point of being in that team to get the mails? | 18:21 |
| Riddell | leave the team then surely | 18:21 |
| debfx | ScottK: no, I'm in the team to be able to subscribe it to packages | 18:22 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 18:23 |
| Riddell | I think at the moment launchpad doesn't let you control that, you need to filter it yourself | 18:23 |
| Riddell | i did do a review of a proposed UI to allow that so I guess it's in the works | 18:23 |
| debfx | surely they will invent other reasons to spam | 18:27 |
| debfx | by the way kubuntu-ninjas still sends ftbfs mails to all members | 18:29 |
| apachelogger | bah | 18:37 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I'll start rolling gles once kde stopped segfaulting :P | 18:37 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: So do the pkg-kde-tools change for gcc4.4. | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: please do a web browser in 30 seconds | 18:38 |
| yofel | cnd was working on a fix for the Qt crash | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: also I did not try qt on android | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/02/live-from-apples-ipad-2-event/?sort=newest&refresh=60 | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | I have a feeling the magic would explode | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | aw | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | stop it with applegdget already | 18:38 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: aye, just need to figure out how ^^ | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I'll try it once the tablet arrives | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | okay :D | 18:39 |
| apachelogger | also did you see phonon on android talk from yesterday night | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | what | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | no | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: in #phonon ? yes | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | aye | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | actually it might not be that difficult, the tricky part is getting a backend going | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | basically you will have to interface with the java objects of the android mm stack | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | could be a jolly project | 18:40 |
| apachelogger | hopefully that friend of trever is entering that as gsoc project | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | kewl | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | i can help test | 18:41 |
| shadeslayer | because i have no idea what the android stack looks like | 18:41 |
| bambee | someone could test this patch http://paste.ubuntu.com/574598/ (language-selector) ? normally it should be less confusing now | 18:41 |
| bambee | I added tooltips, and if a component is installed it cannot be selected anymore in install tab | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: google android multimedia api | 18:42 |
| kubotu | Results for android multimedia api: 1. Audio and Video | Android Developers: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/ | 2. Package Index | Android Developers: http://developer.android.com/reference/packages.html | 3. Android 2.3 Platform Highlights | Android Developers: http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html | 18:42 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: I tried to install Qt via Ministro but it didnt install anything | 18:42 |
| apachelogger | looky looky | 18:42 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: how? | 18:42 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: search market for Ministro | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 18:43 |
| bambee | I need feedbacks | 18:43 |
| Quintasan | but it just popped out with "Searching for libs" and the quit | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | gah | 18:43 |
| shadeslayer | same here | 18:43 |
| bambee | (I suck for graphical interfaces :) ) | 18:43 |
| * bambee will offer cookies and beers to anyone who would like give feedbacks about his patch (harald stickers in bonus )... don't wait :P | 19:18 | |
| apachelogger | ScottK: I think I am too tired to understand the kernel stuff today | 19:28 |
| apachelogger | will try again tomorrow | 19:28 |
| * apachelogger shall try getting more than 3 hrs of sleep today | 19:28 | |
| apachelogger | afiestas: ping | 19:36 |
| apachelogger | afiestas: unping | 19:57 |
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| jussi | And Kamoso crashes on taking a pickture :( | 20:39 |
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| ari-tczew | Riddell: around? | 21:37 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: could you check it? bug 710981 | 21:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 710981 in choqok (Ubuntu) "New upstream release 1.0" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/710981 | 21:41 |
| ari-tczew | last comments about broken indicator suppor | 21:41 |
| ari-tczew | t | 21:41 |
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| rickspencer3 | any Qt Creator experts here can give me some tips for Natty? | 22:50 |
| rickspencer3 | like, how to enable the design view, for example? | 22:50 |
| debfx | rickspencer3: opening a .ui file should make qtcreator switch to the design view | 22:59 |
| rickspencer3 | debfx, sorry, I'm using Quick Quick, or at least I would like to be | 22:59 |
| rickspencer3 | but I can't get the design view to turn on | 22:59 |
| debfx | rickspencer3: the qml designer requires private qt headers so we don't build the plugin | 23:09 |
| rickspencer3 | :/ | 23:09 |
| rickspencer3 | debfx, do you know why they do it that way? is it licensing issues? | 23:15 |
| debfx | rickspencer3: no, i'm guessing that part of the QtDeclarative api isn't finished yet | 23:17 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: please e-mail me, I'll get it tomorrow | 23:28 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: Qt Quick Designer hasn't been released yet | 23:29 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: you're subscribed to bug, is it enough? | 23:29 |
| Riddell | ari-tczew: no, sorry I get lots of bug mail | 23:29 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: ok | 23:29 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell, hmm, it's working in the screenshots in the Qt documentations :/ | 23:32 |
| ari-tczew | Riddell: Done. | 23:32 |
| Riddell | rickspencer3: silly docs, it was in some betas but they pulled it because it wasn't stable enough | 23:33 |
| rickspencer3 | rats | 23:34 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks Riddell | 23:34 |
| debfx | Riddell: http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/01/qt-quick-1-0-and-beyond-or-the-post-of-many-links/ says the quick designer is part of qtcreator 2.1 | 23:37 |
| rickspencer3 | Riddell, debfx any idea why the Run buttons would be disabled? | 23:54 |
| rickspencer3 | they worked when I created the project, I changed one thing in the QML, and now it won't work :/ | 23:54 |
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