[00:13] <Jef91> Anyone know if there are ANY .deb builds of PCManFM 0.9.x that don't seg out when right clicking on files as root?
[09:52] <red_> tnx, head_victim for the opengl info
[09:53] <head_victim> red_: glad it worked out
[09:53] <head_victim> Nice to know when it works as well so thanks for letting me know.
[09:53] <red_> i went through your link and did what it i was told there apparently i have direct rendering: Yes
[09:53] <red_> yea, i checked the logs from the irclogs site :)))
[09:53] <red_> lots of interesting stuff there
[09:53] <red_> just ctrl-f and you are there
[09:54] <red_> i took it down a notch switching from xchat to irssi to save some ram usage
[09:54] <head_victim> Yeah that's why I like helping on logged channels, it means the solutiosn are there for everyone to use
[09:55] <head_victim> Ah ok I prefer xchat but then again I have 2 gb of ram to play with
[09:55] <red_> i only have 512mb lol old laptop from 2005
[09:55] <red_> but lubuntu runs nice
[09:55] <red_> ubuntu not so much
[09:56] <head_victim> Yeah my personal experience is if it's  a P4 or older then Lubuntu is the best selection, if it's a C2D with a couple of GB or ram or more normal Ubuntu is my preference.
[09:58] <red_> yes, i tried several live distros but decided to go with lubuntu. I was trying wattos (another low demand os) but with lubuntu there is way more supported with ubuntu forums and all
[09:58] <bioterror> depends on need
[09:58] <bioterror> if you want to use gnome, why not, waste your resources
[09:59] <red_> eh, just browse the web and mail for me on this comp
[09:59] <bioterror> I have a dual core computer with 4GB of RAM and my desktop is a WindowMaker
[09:59] <red_> lol
[09:59] <red_> have u tried blackbox?
[09:59] <bioterror> I could run "anything" with it
[09:59] <head_victim> bioterror: yeah I like the features of gnome for my quad core with 10gb ram.
[09:59] <bioterror> red_, blackbox is soooo 90's, fluxbox is the future
[10:00] <red_> i see i am "new" to this whole DE scene ;)
[10:00] <bioterror> I dont know what features I am missing with my cribbled WMaker and Thunar file browser :D
[10:00] <mark76> PekWM FTW!
[10:00] <bioterror> red_, but FYI, I'm going to use Fluxbox on my coming HTPC ;)
[10:00] <bioterror> it was sent today!
[10:00] <red_> fluxbox's nice
[10:01] <red_> that is so cool, having htpc, my guess is, since you are uber l33t
[10:01] <bioterror> daamn, I could go to fap as I'm so excited about this htpc :D
[10:01] <red_> you will have all access via remote
[10:01] <bioterror> well
[10:02] <bioterror> I have to buy these remotes :D
[10:02] <bioterror> and case too, it's going to replace my Popcorn Hour A-110
[10:02] <mark76> Seriously. Try PekWM.
[10:03] <mark76> It has tabbed windows
[10:03] <bioterror> but my 2cents is that there's no idea to waste resources on gnome or other stuff
[10:03] <bioterror> if you can do the same tasks with something lighter
[10:04] <red_> does java and flash work on that super light DE (fluxbox, blackbox...)?
[10:04] <bioterror> why not
[10:04] <red_> you can browse pages, right?
[10:04] <bioterror> what? :D
[10:05] <red_> nothing nothing
[10:05] <red_> what i meant was
[10:05] <red_> for instance
[10:05] <red_> with blackbox you can surf the web
[10:05] <red_> without "classic" web browser
[10:05] <red_> it can display pages
[10:06] <bioterror> I'm not now understanding
[10:06] <red_> maybe i'm unclear, forgive my terminology
[10:06] <red_> hehe
[10:06] <red_> a sec plz
[10:07] <red_> maybe i can goole some screenshots to explain
[10:14] <bioterror> try to find it, I'll go replace one laptop and switch harddrives on them too
[10:14] <bioterror> afk for ~10min ;)
[10:26] <bioterror> yeah
[10:27] <bioterror> red_, did you find anything? :D
[10:37] <red_> no i must've confused window manager and desktop environment
[10:38] <red_> the blackbox screenshots did not have what i was looking for
[10:38] <bioterror> :D
[10:38] <red_> that is different thing right? wm and de?
[10:38] <bioterror> yes
[10:38] <bioterror> DE should bring you a whole desktop usability or how it should be explained
[10:39] <red_> ok, tnx for learning me  and explaining this basic linux-related things
[10:55] <red_> xinput list
[11:27] <Camci> Hello, I need help please, im a complete newb to linux alltogheter, i have installed Lubuntu last night and this morning I have installed vsftpd, I have done the configuration and it is running.
[11:28] <Camci> I have no idea how to create a new user for it and give it access to say /home/enes/Downloads . Can someone help me please?
[11:32] <red_> yes i think i can
[11:33] <red_> just type
[11:33] <red_> adduser
[11:33] <red_> adduser <usernma> <password>
[11:33] <red_> for permissions and stuff wait for bioterror
[11:34] <bioterror> I'm just wondering why :D
[11:34] <Camci> thanks
[11:34] <Camci> why?
[11:34] <bioterror> why ftpd
[11:35] <Camci> someone said it was good :p
[11:35] <Camci> or something
[11:35] <Camci> why not? :p
[11:35] <bioterror> not that it's my business, but I'm just curious why would you want to use ftpd and escpecially let him go to your ~/Downloads
[11:35] <Camci> its me
[11:35] <Camci> who wanna go there
[11:35] <Camci> I have a home server
[11:36] <Camci> and I wanna reach that folder via my windows
[11:36] <bioterror> hey
[11:36] <bioterror> USE SAMBA!
[11:36] <bioterror> samba == windows share
[11:36] <bioterror> \\computer\share\
[11:36] <bioterror> you know ;)
[11:36] <Camci> no im confused :P
[11:37] <bioterror> how so
[11:37] <bioterror> you have in windows "share this folder" right?
[11:37] <Camci> but wouldnt vsftpd work? All im gonna do is to connect to it every now and then and download the files.
[11:37] <bioterror> and then you can access it by using \\computer\share\
[11:40] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install samba
[11:40] <bioterror> then you edit your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:40] <bioterror> you put your workgroup there
[11:40] <bioterror> the same you have in windows
[11:40] <bioterror> and then you add your shares
[11:40] <bioterror> I can give you an example
[11:41] <Camci> and I can share any folder to windows?
[11:41] <bioterror> yes
[11:41] <bioterror> you can access them by explorer
[11:41] <Camci> gonna try it now
[11:41] <Camci> sec :p
[11:41] <bioterror> I use it myself for my networked media tank
[11:43] <Camci> gksudo gedit/etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[11:43] <bioterror> yes
[11:43] <bioterror> http://paste.ubuntu.com/574403/
[11:43] <bioterror> replace sad157 with your username
[11:43] <bioterror> and put a correct path
[11:44] <Camci> ok its installing right now
[11:44] <bioterror> you can name it [Downloads@Linux] or something or something like that
[11:44] <bioterror> it will show the share then as Downloads@Linux
[11:45] <Camci> I see
[11:45] <Camci> the user name
[11:45] <Camci> its the username on the lubuntu yes?
[11:45] <Camci> and not the windows?
[11:46] <bioterror> yes
[11:46] <bioterror> on your machine
[11:46] <Camci> ok
[11:48] <Enes> easier if im here from the machine :p
[11:48] <bioterror> and then you can say "sudo service samba restart"
[11:51] <Enes> Do i add the text you linked at the bottom?
[11:51] <bioterror> yes
[11:52] <Enes> How do I know what group am I in?
[11:52] <bioterror> I have a group "SAPPORO" as that's my domain in my home
[11:53] <bioterror> you can figure out something
[11:53] <Enes> ok
[11:53] <Enes> now i restart
[11:53] <bioterror> my computers are something.sapporo
[11:53] <Enes> ah
[11:53] <bioterror> you should then put your windows into same workgroup
[11:53] <Enes> Yea I changed the work group to same as windows
[11:54] <bioterror> good
[11:54] <bioterror> can you now see the share from your windows?
[11:54] <Enes> just gonna restart
[11:54] <Enes> sudo service samba restart didnt work
[11:54] <Enes> unrecognized service
[11:54] <bioterror> hmmm
[11:55] <bioterror> try smb instead of samba :D
[11:55] <Enes> nope :(
[11:55] <bioterror> ls /etc/init.d/
[11:55] <bioterror> do you see samba or smb there
[11:56] <Enes> smbd
[11:56] <bioterror> sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[11:56] <Enes> ok
[11:57] <Enes> ok
[11:57] <Enes> done
[11:57] <bioterror> now, refresh your network drives on windows
[11:57] <bioterror> your computer should broadcast itself
[11:58] <Camci> I dont see it
[11:58] <bioterror> you should if you're in a same network with it ;)
[11:58] <bioterror> same LAN
[11:59] <Camci> I am
[11:59] <Camci> both are here
[12:00] <Camci> maybe I missed something?
[12:00] <Camci> do I have to change anything in windows?
[12:00] <bioterror> nope, you should not
[12:00] <bioterror> can you from windows do \\com.puters.ip.address\
[12:01] <bioterror> 192.168.102
[12:01] <bioterror> 192.168.1.102
[12:01] <bioterror> or what ever that's
[12:01] <bioterror> that just example what people mostly have
[12:01] <Camci> 192.168.1.2	ENES-LUBUNTU
[12:01] <bioterror> okay
[12:01] <Camci> is my server
[12:01] <bioterror> \\192.168.1.2\
[12:02] <bioterror> if you put that to your address bar on windows's explorer
[12:02] <Camci> now it wants username and pw
[12:02] <Camci> no idea what it is
[12:02] <Camci> :P
[12:02] <bioterror> your login credentials
[12:02] <bioterror> for the server
[12:02] <Camci> ah
[12:02]  * bioterror crosses fingers
[12:03] <Camci> wrong name or pw
[12:03] <Camci> o.O
[12:03] <bioterror> yeah
[12:03] <bioterror> you have to give them
[12:03] <bioterror> just a moment
[12:03] <bioterror> on server
[12:03] <bioterror> open terminal
[12:03] <bioterror> and
[12:03] <Enes> ok
[12:03] <bioterror> "sudo smbpasswd -a USER"
[12:04] <bioterror> replace user with your username
[12:04] <Enes> enes ?
[12:04] <bioterror> if it asks for a password, give the same as you use for login
[12:04] <Enes> ok
[12:05] <Enes> done
[12:05] <bioterror> try again from explorer
[12:05] <Camci> yay
[12:06] <bioterror> can you browse stuff?
[12:06] <Camci> yea
[12:06] <Camci> I can see the stuff :)
[12:06] <bioterror> okay
[12:06] <bioterror> good
[12:07] <bioterror> now you can remove that horrible ftpd :D
[12:07] <Camci> thank you thank you thank you
[12:07] <bioterror> yeah, that's a lot smarter way to do it
[12:07] <bioterror> but I'm wondering why your windows cant see the shared folder
[12:07] <bioterror> if you want to access your windows share from lubuntu
[12:08] <bioterror> do "sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends"
[12:08] <Camci> I dont need to access anything from windows :)
[12:08] <bioterror> are you sure?-)
[12:09] <Camci> yea, server is only for download, then ig et it from there to windows
[12:09] <Camci> thats it :D
[12:09] <bioterror> :(
[12:10] <bioterror> oh well, enjoy your lubuntu ;)
[12:10] <Camci> I made a shortcut on desktop so i can reach it fast :p
[12:12] <Camci> how do I delete vsftpd? :p
[12:13] <bioterror> sudo apt-get purge vsftpd
[12:14] <Enes> thanks!
[12:17] <Camci> reboot
[14:43] <red_> icewm or fluxbox?
[14:45] <bioterror> red_, openbox with lxde on it, ofcourse!
[14:45] <red_> that is the default combo in lubuntu, right?
[14:45] <bioterror> yes
[14:48] <red_> what would happen if i'd kill openbox process?
[14:48] <bioterror> try it out :D
[14:50] <red_> ok, here goes :)
[14:55] <red__> lol
[14:55] <red__> i cant start open box again
[14:56] <red__> now i am on ctrl+alt-F1 irssi
[14:56] <red__> and if ctl-alt-F7 it looks like as if i had killed a "taskmanager" in windows
[15:00] <red__> lolz
[15:09] <red_> lol
[15:09] <red_> im back
[15:55] <Guest690000> hi
[17:53] <frede> hi, is there a way to automatically lock the screen when waking up from sleep?
[19:24] <mark76> Where's the Lubuntu lxpanel profile kept?
[19:24] <bioterror> /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/Lubuntu/
[19:26] <mark76> Ta
[19:27] <mark76> http://imagebin.org/140784
[19:28] <bioterror> you're tweaking? :)
[19:28] <mark76> Yeah
[19:29] <mark76> Can you guess what the bottom panel is?
[19:29] <bioterror> hard to say
[19:29] <mark76> It's bmpanel2
[19:30] <mark76> Do I need to have lxpanel in my autostart file for it to start?
[19:30] <bioterror>     A modern, NETWM compliant, bitmap theme-based x11 panel.
[19:30] <mark76> That's the one
[19:31] <mark76> The theme is called Light-T
[19:32] <mark76> /share
[19:45] <bioterror> damn
[19:45] <bioterror> my brains aint working
[19:45] <red_> whats the matter?
[19:45] <bioterror> trying to figure out the autostart file
[19:45] <bioterror> hahaa
[19:45] <bioterror> /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart
[19:46] <bioterror> there you go mark76 ;)
[19:46] <mark76> I know
[20:29] <szczur> mark76, your system looks awesome :)
[20:30] <mark76> Thanks
[20:31] <mark76> Glad you like it :D
[20:57] <mark76> Does the indicator-applets plugin for lxpanel ever work?
[21:27] <ThinkT510> is there a 64bit iso for 10.10?
[21:27] <bioterror> nope
[21:27] <bioterror> you have to use miniman installation or other ubuntu versions
[21:27] <bioterror> I would prefer minimal
[21:29] <ThinkT510> i see, any plans for 64bit iso's for future releases? or is that against the grain (since lubuntu is best for netbooks/ older computers)
[21:29] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[21:29] <bioterror> ThinkT510, we're working on it for the 11.04
[21:30] <ThinkT510> sweet
[21:30] <bioterror> there has been lots of demand for it
[21:31] <ThinkT510> i was suprised to see lubuntu gets more hits than xubuntu in distrowatch
[21:32] <ThinkT510> thanks for the info
[23:15] <sico> i had lubuntu and winxpsp3 in my grub menu.  now winxp is missing.  what command would i use in terminal to fix this?
[23:17] <sico> sudo update-grub2 doesn't show it
[23:18] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install os-prober
[23:18] <bioterror> sudo os-prober
[23:18] <bioterror> sudo update-grub
[23:19] <sico> bioterror, ty kind sir :D
[23:19] <bioterror> you dont have to sir me ,)
[23:19] <kosaidpo|> hello
[23:20] <sico> sorry.  thanks tho.
[23:20] <kosaidpo|> sico: if you have a dual boot and it didnt wok i still have my old grub.cfg if u want it to help uself
[23:21] <kosaidpo|> bioterror: any idea how to type in arab using an app ?
[23:21] <kosaidpo|> not my real keys ?
[23:21] <bioterror> nope, I'm not an arab
[23:21] <kosaidpo|> bioterror: hihi i kno ,and i am :D
[23:22] <sico> i had a grub.cfg from another computer with simliar setup and i'm sure i co it nduld've eventually manually got it.  i just knew thewas something ez like bioterror stated but couldn't find it.  normally i have to add ubuntu back after windows install.  i can do that.   strange that it was there, win in grub.  i wonder why it 'left'
[23:22] <kosaidpo|> well me after an upgrade it gone