| arand | I'm getting erros (couldn't locate) for the unity and unity-2d-panel package, is something up with that? | 01:07 |
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| BUGabundo | night | 01:42 |
| cpatrick08 | i get this error message when updating kubuntu natty E: Error http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main Sources | 03:32 |
| cpatrick08 | 404 Not Found | 03:32 |
| cpatrick08 | E: Error http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main amd64 Packages | 03:32 |
| matt-vaio | I am sick of unity for now. until it's bugs are worked out, I want to use gnome again, and there is no gnome-desktop related startup option. Any ideas? | 03:36 |
| rww | matt-vaio: There's an option for "classic" GNOME on the login screen. Try that. | 03:37 |
| * rww isn't using natty, can't help much more than that pointer | 03:37 | |
| matt-vaio | rww, thanks but that still didn't work for me | 03:37 |
| Ampelbein | cpatrick08: you have some ppa in your sources that doesn't provide packages for it | 03:37 |
| rww | matt-vaio: odd. Did you still get Unity anyway, or did you get a broken GNOME desktop? | 03:37 |
| syn-ack | Good evening. | 03:38 |
| matt-vaio | well, I did a straight upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04a. everything was smooth. | 03:38 |
| matt-vaio | and gnome was perfect :) | 03:38 |
| syn-ack | matt-vaio, it's generally better if you do a fresh install of the OS when you want to run the development version. Though, the upgrade process has become a lot less painful as it was in the past | 03:39 |
| matt-vaio | I understand that. the problem is, when I fresh installed, I accidentally set the grub partition in my win7 partition:((( | 03:41 |
| matt-vaio | and then my hardware got messed up, and now through a series of events, my laptop doesn't suspend anymore, it hibernates instead which is a dread for school. end of spam:>. | 03:41 |
| matt-vaio | syn-ack, I'll have to. I'll lose all my backups and stuff, but w/e. | 03:42 |
| matt-vaio | ty | 03:42 |
| syn-ack | matt-vaio, Do what I do | 03:43 |
| syn-ack | keep your /~ on it's own partition | 03:43 |
| syn-ack | that way, when you do have to do that, you're not nuking the entire install. Only the system partition | 03:43 |
| matt-vaio | yea, with 10.10, they added that choice thing. and out of curiosity, I did it differently:P | 03:43 |
| matt-vaio | which cost me | 03:44 |
| syn-ack | They've had it like that since Warty. | 03:44 |
| matt-vaio | well, choice wise, not advanced properties and stuff. | 03:45 |
| matt-vaio | I've figured out the partitioning stuff already, so it isn't hard. | 03:45 |
| syn-ack | Hell, it's been like that since I started using linux back in '98 :P | 03:45 |
| matt-vaio | meh, I just started using it a year ago. | 03:45 |
| MTecknology | Yay.... natty go breaky | 03:50 |
| syn-ack | Dude, tell me about it | 03:50 |
| syn-ack | with less than a month to go, I'm surprised that we're only in A2... Though, I've not beta tested in quite a while | 03:51 |
| MTecknology | how can you beta test without a beta release? | 03:51 |
| syn-ack | You know what I mean. :P | 03:52 |
| MTecknology | ah.... | 03:55 |
| MTecknology | It's be that broke it - by removing initramfs-tools from the system :P | 03:55 |
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| syn-ack | ugh | 04:19 |
| syn-ack | breaky breaky | 04:19 |
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| easthero | hi, all. ubuntu10.10 how to upgrade to natty? when upgrade python2.6 to python2.7 , always failed | 06:49 |
| susundberg | Good morning | 07:05 |
| susundberg | Was there some know issue with latest updates -- i updated about 14h ago and now when i reboot i have no networking -- network manager shows red cross and the 'wired' connection is grayd out | 07:05 |
| susundberg | manual setting of network (ifconfig ...) works fine | 07:05 |
| susundberg | ah: [1299048457.420478] [main.c:701] main(): failed to start the DHCP manager: no usable DHCP client could be found.. | 07:08 |
| susundberg | Why I cant find bug assosiated with this | 07:11 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: there was no update to network-manager in the last days | 07:12 |
| susundberg | Any ideas where the issue came from? I am very sure i didnt manually remove dhcp client | 07:13 |
| susundberg | Here are latest changes from history.log: http://susundberg.pastebin.com/bKvEyEFA | 07:15 |
| susundberg | There is for example: isc-dhcp-common:amd64 (4.1.1-P1-15ubuntu3, 4.1.1-P1-15ubuntu4) | 07:15 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: yeah, that should be bug 724556 | 07:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 724556 in isc-dhcp (Ubuntu Natty) "[Natty] isc-dhcp update breaks network connection" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724556 | 07:16 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: -ubuntu5 got published on 24th february | 07:17 |
| susundberg | Mhh what does 'fix released' mean -- fix is available but its not yet on repos? | 07:18 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: no, fix released=fix is in repository. | 07:18 |
| susundberg | (that is Natty main) | 07:19 |
| Ampelbein | yeah | 07:19 |
| jml | I'm getting this error when upgrading: http://paste.ubuntu.com/574326/ | 07:19 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: the package fixing that bug is https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/4.1.1-P1-15ubuntu5, published on 24.feb | 07:19 |
| susundberg | So my local mirror is just lagging (as apt-get update says i am up to date)? | 07:21 |
| susundberg | (thanks btw) | 07:21 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: what mirror are you on? | 07:22 |
| susundberg | http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com | 07:22 |
| susundberg | Well day is just starting in here in Finland so mayby i'll wait for a while ;) | 07:24 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: that mirror should have the files, http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/i/isc-dhcp/ | 07:25 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: you sure you did run apt-get update? ;-) | 07:25 |
| Ampelbein | jml: can you file a bug about that upgrade please? | 07:26 |
| susundberg | weird. but yes, i did | 07:26 |
| jml | Ampelbein: sure. against what? | 07:26 |
| susundberg | http://susundberg.pastebin.com/UUPMLE7n | 07:27 |
| Ampelbein | jml: udev, please attach relevant log files | 07:27 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: eek, root | 07:28 |
| jml | Ampelbein: which log files, do you think? | 07:28 |
| Ampelbein | jml: /var/log/apt/term.log, /var/log/dpkg.log, if possible, only include the parts where the error is | 07:29 |
| jml | Ampelbein: ok. will do. thanks. | 07:29 |
| susundberg | Ampelbein: http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-amd64/ -- Packages.bz2 contains only ubuntu4 | 07:30 |
| susundberg | oh mayby i'll wait for a moment | 07:30 |
| susundberg | Well you cant run apt-get update as normal user ... | 07:31 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: that's what sudo is for. | 07:31 |
| susundberg | Yeah. I just prefer not to prefix my all commands with 'sudo' | 07:32 |
| susundberg | but that eagerness to use 'root' certainly originates from debian times .. | 07:33 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: ok. ;-) about the mirror: did you actually get any updates in the last days? | 07:34 |
| susundberg | Well dont know, i updated yesterday after some days | 07:35 |
| susundberg | but the Packages.bz2 is dated " 24-Feb-2011 " | 07:35 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: yes, that's what makes me wonder | 07:35 |
| susundberg | So it seems like it hasnt been really up-to-date .. | 07:35 |
| susundberg | Ampelbein: Again, thanks for the help! I consider issue solved :) | 07:38 |
| Ampelbein | susundberg: no problem ;-) | 07:38 |
| jml | Ampelbein: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/727633 | 07:56 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 727633 in udev (Ubuntu) "Failed upgrade to udev" [Undecided,New] | 07:56 |
| Ampelbein | jml: thanks | 07:57 |
| susundberg | Ampelbein: somebody in .fi channel just mentioned that he got 800MB of updates after changing mirror to .se :) | 08:13 |
| Zuhaitz | hi | 10:24 |
| Zuhaitz | why when i change virtual desktop the background moves with the windows? it have no sense, the virtual desktop is the work desktop, the background should be static, is there a way to change that? thanks | 10:26 |
| susundberg | Yes | 10:31 |
| Zuhaitz | Can you teld me how, please. | 10:31 |
| susundberg | Yeah i was just checking | 10:31 |
| Zuhaitz | And, the dock, is configurable? Or, in case that not, will be in the future? | 10:32 |
| susundberg | Oh sorry, Kde or Gnome or something else? | 10:32 |
| Zuhaitz | Unity | 10:32 |
| Zuhaitz | xD | 10:32 |
| susundberg | Sorry, don't know -- i would google or search through options | 10:32 |
| Zuhaitz | Options... Where? :D | 10:33 |
| Clutchless | hey, can anyone help me? i have problem with rhel but nobody wake in there, i believe you guys can help too | 10:41 |
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| alkisg | Hi, I'm trying to `apt-get dist-upgrade` a natty chroot, and apport fails to be configured. In /var/log/daemon.log I get: | 12:16 |
| alkisg | Mar 2 14:11:11 alkis init: apport pre-start process (15957) terminated with status 1 | 12:16 |
| alkisg | Mar 2 14:11:11 alkis init: apport post-stop process (15958) terminated with status 1 | 12:16 |
| alkisg | In apport.postinst there is this call, added by dh_installinit: | 12:16 |
| alkisg | invoke-rc.d apport start || exit $? | 12:17 |
| alkisg | So the question is, should that invoke-rc.d call succeed, or should the postinst have an `|| true` at that line? | 12:17 |
| alkisg | I.e. is it a bug in sysv-rc, meaning that invoke-rc.d should return "true" when inside chroots, or is it a bug in apport? | 12:18 |
| tsimpson | in chroots you don't want services to be started/stopped/restarted from invoke-rc.d, so you should create a shell script in /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d with just "exit 101" | 12:24 |
| alkisg | tsimpson: and then manually restore that script when the chroot is actually used to boot a pc? | 12:57 |
| alkisg | That doesn't sound right, I believe it should be handled automatically | 12:57 |
| tsimpson | then use http://paste.ubuntu.com/574434/ | 12:58 |
| alkisg | tsimpson: it's a nice workaround, but my point is, why should I need a workaround/ | 12:59 |
| alkisg | Isn't it a bug that needs to be fixed? | 12:59 |
| tsimpson | because it's supposed to be user-configurable I guess | 13:00 |
| alkisg | Also why `exit 101` instead of `exit 0`? | 13:00 |
| tsimpson | it's perfectly possible to have services running from a chroot, it's just that you normally don't wan to | 13:00 |
| alkisg | And it should also chain to invoke-rc.d when outside of a chroot | 13:00 |
| tsimpson | 101 means something similar to "permission denied" | 13:00 |
| alkisg | That would still make the postinst fail though | 13:01 |
| tsimpson | invoke-rc.d calls /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d, so no | 13:01 |
| alkisg | Also, except from invoke-rc.d, it's a problem with initctl (upstart) calls as well | 13:01 |
| tsimpson | oops, I said invoke-rc.d above, I meant policy-rc.d | 13:01 |
| alkisg | So if invoke-rc.d is supposed to start services, then it's a bug in apport.postinst, it shouldn't fail on chroots | 13:01 |
| tsimpson | * in chroots you don't want services to be started/stopped/restarted from invoke-rc.d, so you should create a shell script in /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d with just "exit 101" | 13:02 |
| alkisg | Ah, let me look at policy-rc.d, didn't know about that... | 13:02 |
| alkisg | (but it's still a problem with upstart services) | 13:02 |
| tsimpson | invoke-rc.d checks with policy-rc.d to see if it should actually do anything | 13:02 |
| tsimpson | -> http://people.debian.org/~hmh/invokerc.d-policyrc.d-specification.txt | 13:03 |
| tsimpson | I'm not sure how current that is, but it's what I found on google | 13:03 |
| alkisg | Got it, we use policy-rc.d on ltsp as well, I just never looked at it. That's a better workaround for invoke-rc.d, but I think a proper fix is still needed | 13:04 |
| alkisg | create chroot => install apport => it fails. It just doesn't sound logical that policy-rc.d needs to be created for it not to fail | 13:05 |
| alkisg | Thank you though for the nice workaround :) | 13:06 |
| alkisg | I reported the apport/upstart problem in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/727785 | 13:34 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 727785 in upstart (Ubuntu) "apport fails to be configured in chroots" [Undecided,New] | 13:34 |
| platius | looks like my daily live install has gone south. It was almost finished but now is hung on Downloading packages. Well A3 tomorrow. | 15:19 |
| pianoboy3333 | is narwhal going to include gnome 3? | 15:31 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 3 starting in 25 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom | 15:36 |
| yofel | pianoboy3333: no, natty won't have gnome3 | 15:38 |
| platius | hmm, I did a reboot while the install was hung. Apparently it installed enough to reboot into natty. | 15:38 |
| pianoboy3333 | yofel: so I'm guessing october's release will? | 15:38 |
| yofel | probably, we'll know after UDS | 15:39 |
| BluesKaj | so I assume the Xorg stack is still broken ? | 15:44 |
| yofel | BluesKaj: in what sense? | 15:48 |
| BluesKaj | that nvidia driver depnds aren't working, yofel | 15:50 |
| yofel | the nvidia driver works fine here by now | 15:50 |
| BluesKaj | I'm running an older driver (260.19.06) that seems to be recommended default for my 8400gs . yet my other linux box with the 7600gt uses the newer recommended driver ...strange | 15:53 |
| * BluesKaj suspects the 8400gs is a upgraded version od the 6series nvidias | 15:55 | |
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| bjsnider | BluesKaj, the 260 is longer available in natty. if you still have it there's a problem with your apt sources | 16:35 |
| ayush_ | will kubuntu natty have ubuntu one integration? | 16:35 |
| BluesKaj | bjsnider, I haven't upgraded to 11.04 yet | 16:35 |
| BluesKaj | bjsnider, I'm in the process | 16:35 |
| bjsnider | oh, well, this channel is for natty | 16:36 |
| bjsnider | you will get the 270 driver when the process is complete | 16:36 |
| BluesKaj | yeah, no kidding, I tried it a few weeks back but both linuxboxes suffered from nvidia /xorg broken depends probs | 16:37 |
| BluesKaj | well, I'll know in about 5-6mins, whether Xorg is fixed | 16:39 |
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| MonkeyDust | folk, i'm running 11.04 in vbox but am unable to open a simple gnome terminal, hints & tips? | 17:34 |
| rumpe1 | alt-f2 doesn't work? | 17:35 |
| charlie-tca | Ctrl+Alt+t to open terminal | 17:36 |
| charlie-tca | Other handy Unity shortcuts available at http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/keyboard-shortcuts-in-unity/28087#28087 | 17:37 |
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| dan2 | is git broken in natty? | 18:16 |
| CarlFK | is there a chance of getting acpiphp added to /etc/modules? | 19:04 |
| CarlFK | it seems to be the fix for bug 371434 -Reported by Eric Shattow on 2009-05-03 | 19:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 371434 in linux (Ubuntu) "PCI ExpressCard hotplug requires pciehp.pciehp_force=1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/371434 | 19:06 |
| AAA_awright | I'm using the development Ubuntu, the side application bar isn't dissappearing anymore, anyone know what's going on? | 19:14 |
| AAA_awright | Anyone know how to turn off compiz effects? Removing the package removed the desktop UI/title bars altogether, not what I'm going for of course | 19:20 |
| Ampelbein | !info simple-ccsm | AAA_awright | 19:24 |
| ubottu | AAA_awright: simple-ccsm (source: simple-ccsm): Simple Compizconfig settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 50 kB, installed size 620 kB | 19:24 |
| Ampelbein | AAA_awright: and about the sidebar not disappearing: try rightclicking it. | 19:25 |
| Ampelbein | AAA_awright: that should toggle between autohide on/off | 19:25 |
| AAA_awright | Right click where? It brings up application icon-specific settings (usually just "Keep in Launcher") | 19:26 |
| AAA_awright | The top left corner does nothing | 19:26 |
| Ampelbein | AAA_awright: oh, right. I think they removed that. You can change the setting with ccsm | 19:30 |
| AAA_awright | >_< I'll check it out real soon then | 19:31 |
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| xrdodrx | how do I make it so that my app menus go back to how they were before? | 22:10 |
| xrdodrx | it's very inconsistent as it doesn't work at all in firefox | 22:10 |
| xrdodrx | and displays only "File" in Chrome | 22:11 |
| cg2916 | hey there, charlie-tca | 23:18 |
| charlie-tca | Hello | 23:18 |
| cg2916 | is the daily working? | 23:18 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 23:21 |
| ActionParsnip | hey guys. how can I edit the item in the shortcuts dialogue please? | 23:21 |
| charlie-tca | These dailies are the pre-release images for alpha3, which releases tomorrow | 23:21 |
| ActionParsnip | I dont use evolution or thunderbird and wanted to add a command etc to it to launch a url for webmail etc | 23:22 |
| ActionParsnip | I can make a script to be available as an app to achieve it, I just need to know where to add it etc | 23:31 |
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