[00:41] <darkmatter> heya coz_
[00:41] <coz_> darkmatter,  hey guy
[00:41]  * darkmatter feels like an idiot xD
[00:43] <darkmatter> was about to go catch a bus I'm not catching til tomorrow (I thought today was wednesday. lol)
[00:43] <coz_> :)
[00:43] <coz_> darkmatter,  been there  :)
[00:44] <coz_> darkmatter,  I have had a bad day myself...a few people insisted that I was arrogant or critical
[00:44] <coz_> darkmatter,  I didnt know what to say to them so I just left which probably fueled the fire I gues
[00:45] <darkmatter> coz_: meh, I come across like that on my good days :P
[00:45] <coz_> :)
[00:45] <coz_> darkmatter,  I dont see you as arrogant at ll
[00:45] <darkmatter> coz_: on the otherhand I switched my compiz/metacity config over to BeOS style window management
[00:45] <coz_> darkmatter,  ooo
[00:46] <coz_> darkmatter,  i was thinking of fireing up my BeOs box but it didnt work :(
[00:46] <darkmatter> close <double click hide> maximize. plus some extras. like mouse wheel shading, etc
[00:46] <coz_> darkmatter,   cool
[00:47] <coz_> darkmatter, no tabs  though
[00:48] <darkmatter> coz_: but also started piddling around with some old crap (amiga, qnx, etc) and had an _awesome_ idea for window grouping without cluttering the ui with tabs
[00:48] <coz_> oh?
[00:48] <darkmatter> as in "multi windows grouped" tabs ;p
[00:48] <coz_> darkmatter,  mmm
[00:48] <coz_> darkmatter,  what would be the alternative to tabs?
[00:52] <darkmatter> coz_: was looking at how 'oldschool' windowing presented 'extras' in the borders, and then thought of my concepr for killing in app tabs. thought, what if you had a <windows/tabs/whatever> glyph that appeared when grouping occurred (in the deco), and then mousing over would display a list of the windows grouped could even support thumbs I guess). basically the same as tabbing, but cleaner. because you have the indication of groupng w
[00:52] <darkmatter> ithout the clutter
[00:52] <coz_> darkmatter,  sounds like the group and tab plugin for compiz
[00:52] <darkmatter> not "omg revolutionary!" or anything. just a logical adaptation
[00:53] <darkmatter> coz_: kinda, but gui driven
[00:53] <darkmatter> i used to love the keyboard, but in recent years I've started to hate it :P
[00:54] <darkmatter> coz_: mouse wheel on background/workspace to "quick tab" though windows?
[00:54] <coz_> darkmatter,  ok sounds nice
[00:56] <darkmatter> coz_: of curse it's just a very rough hashup atm. but works. since it kinda fits with how I'm handling things like multiple webpages and the like (not really any _real_ code yet (just a bit on nostromo)) but common patterns ++
[00:57] <coz_> cool
[01:11] <darkmatter> coz_: similar methodology could be adapted to a window list. also inspired by classic windowmanagement. how some os's/window managers had the "raise/lower button, but the window  decoration had to be visible to raise/lower it. the "popup list/thumbox" thingy could work there as well I guess, because you wouldn't need to see the window, nor throw the mouse to a panel/dock
[01:11] <darkmatter> coz_: I know I'm kinda rambling, just looking for feedback
[01:11] <coz_> darkmatter,  I like the ideas,,, I just dont know how it would work in code... I am still somewhat up in the air with my coding skills
[01:13] <darkmatter> :)
[01:14] <darkmatter> bbiab. watching tv with the missus