[00:25] Is there a way to see what CPU specifications in ubuntu? [00:25] johnny77, cat /proc/cpuinfo [00:27] lspci or lshw both give information, I don't know how much, though [00:27] or, what ibuclaw said ;-) [00:55] some help please ? [00:56] What do you require help with ameer ? [00:56] i have ubuntu 10.10 [00:56] installed already ms office 2007 by wine ... [00:57] and i need an english mui for it [00:58] what is 'mui' ? [00:59] like in windows .. lang package ... [01:00] opst am sorry ... [01:01] i just saied the word windows [01:01] i hope no body got hurt :P [01:02] ameer, I am not sure, but found this page on microsoft website with language pack downloads for office 2007 - http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/office-language-interface-pack-lip-downloads-HA001113350.aspx [01:03] or do you need something like dictionary ameer ? [01:04] its not the thing that i don't understand [01:04] all the office is appearing with no language [01:05] 'cause it is originaly in hebrew [01:05] and it appears like ???????????? [01:05] "?????????????????" [01:06] every thing is "????" [01:06] ameer: yeah, but whats the problem ? [01:06] ;0 [01:06] ameer: did you check that link? [01:06] yess [01:06] and try adding a language pack? [01:06] how do i add a language pack ? [01:07] im sure there are directions somewhere [01:07] however you do it in windows [01:07] there is no english hebrew or arabic in the link witch is the languages i speak [01:07] ameer: does microsoft supply english hebrew or arabic? [01:08] ameer: maybe you could try english [01:08] and see if you can get out of the ?????'s [01:09] ok i'll keep trying and looking for something to do [01:09] thnx guys === tronyx_ is now known as tronyx [01:19] ttfn === AndrewMC is now known as SpockVulcan === lrs is now known as lrs__ === lrs__ is now known as kn0w-b1nary [03:21] in synaptic, you can list packages by source. Is there a way to do that in aptitude? [03:31] How much space is needed to make a mirror of the Universe repo? [03:46] Can someone translate "I tried out latest hack git 1.1.38 and it works to play" into english? I tried googling "git" and "hack git" and it just brings up random stuff. I don't know what this is. [03:47] doing man git in a terminal says there's no manual entry. [03:48] You want the package called "git-core" [03:49] Assuming you mean the VCS named git [03:50] omsniffiscent: are you asking "what is git?" [03:50] yes [03:50] Wikipedia is, as always, convoluted to the point of obsurdity. [03:51] "Distributed revision control system" is no help. I don't know what those words mean either lol. [03:52] git is a Version Control System (VCS). it is used by developers to upload, host, and download code. it's similar to bzr (used by ubuntu), svn, hg (mercurial), etc. [03:52] that's the simple version [03:53] is that any help? [03:53] Isn't that what a PPA is? [03:54] Or.... Sourceforge? [03:54] a PPA is just an archive on launchpad, which uses bzr. the actual working with the code (pulling it, working on it, and uploading it) is done with bzr [03:54] those are the sites where you can see the code or download the source/packages. the underlying system is git/bzr/hg/svn/etc. [03:55] so for a PPA [03:56] ok. It's starting to make sense. But how does hacking git help install a game (champions online)? It's not open source. [03:56] a person pulls some code using bzr, makes changes to the code, then uploads to their PPA on launchpad using bzr. launchpad then builds it and makes it available via the PPA. on launchpad you can view the code using loggerhead, which is the site front-end that lets you see the contents of a bzr branch [03:57] i'm not sure how it could help install a game... [03:59] Well thanks for the layman's explanation. Wikipedia has become word salad to me. [03:59] unless it's a different git, but the VCS git is the only one i'm familiar with [03:59] That's his whole post. In response to "the developers broke the game with the latest patch". So there are no context clues. [03:59] omsniffiscent: that tends to happen with technology-related things. there's a lot of jargon involved :p [04:00] But I'm the tech savvy one to my friends. :( [04:00] maybe he used git to download the source and hacked the game and got it to work? [04:00] Switching to Linux has made me feel like an idiot. [04:00] haha, it's just different. i think switching to linux is easier then mac to windows or vice-versa [04:00] than* [04:01] I don't go near macs. They're weird. [04:01] It's all 100% proprietary. Like, one program to rule them all. Scary. [04:01] i hate that it's setup so you basically rent the products from them. but to each his own [04:02] or her.. [04:02] I can see the appeal to the artsy people. Sorta. [04:03] it's user friendly, i'll give them that. that's the main reason my friends use any apple products is because, along with being "cool," they're easy to figure out [04:03] Linux is like a hobby for me now. [04:04] that's how it starts :p [04:04] I just wish my games would work! [04:05] when steam comes to linux, we will all be very happy [04:05] If GW2 doesn't work with OpenGL I'm going to have to dual boot. [04:05] you could try WINE [04:05] There's no word whether or not GW2 will be exclusively DX10. [04:05] wine uses git for the source code iirc [04:05] omsniffiscent: what's GW2 exactly? [04:05] That's probably what is meant by "hacking git", hacking wine's source code to make it run the windows game. [04:05] AFAIK OpenGL doesn't support DirectX above 9. [04:06] geirha: maybe. that'd be a weird way of wording it, but that whole sentence barely makes sense [04:06] Guild Wars 2. [04:06] omsniffiscent: I like your aurora, you'll fit in nicely here. [04:06] Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't understand it :) [04:06] I've been here for about three months. I'm going through an identity crisis :) [04:06] hm, wine mentions Guild Wars, which works perfectly [04:06] I'm MrAnthrope. [04:06] no mention of Guild Wars 2 though [04:07] yes, Guild Wars was actively developed with WINE :) [04:07] omsniffiscent: opengl and directx has no relation [04:07] JackyAlcine: i like the cut of your jib [04:07] ArenaNet made sure it works perfectly with wine. I'm hoping there's the same co-operation with GW2 and wine. [04:07] I thought OpenGL was the FOSS version of DirectX? [04:08] well the first one worked perfectly, so there is hope [04:08] omsniffiscent: wine doesn't do directx very well, but guild wars, like WoW, probably has an option to use OpenGL instead [04:08] Guild Wars pretty much feels native. [04:08] I had to tweak some sound stuff. [04:08] * ddecator wishes TF2 did [04:09] omsniffiscent: No, Microsoft didn't like OpenGL, so they made their own system, from scratch. [04:09] But OpenGL is a bit "behind" DirectX right? [04:09] well, depends how you look at it [04:09] So if GW2 decides to only support DirectX 10, I'm out of luck. [04:10] But if there is a DirectX 9 or an OpenGL option, I'm in the clear. [04:10] DirectX is mainly used as the standard because Microsoft made sure that was the case. OpenGL is capable enough [04:11] speaking of TF2...lets see if the situation has improved at all === SpockVulcan is now known as AndrewMC [04:18] Are there plans to bring Steam to Linux? [04:19] not officially [04:19] several games work with wine though [04:20] I have Steam installed. [04:20] I tried to install/run a game demo and it failed. Haven't used it since. [04:22] i'm downloading updates for TF2 and the TF2 beta right now :) [04:22] i'm pulling down 4.2 MB/sec...whoa [04:35] well, tf2 works, but no audio still :/ [04:46] ddecator: I tried to get husband set up with steam in ubuntu, and we could NOT get it to work properly [04:46] *steam in wine in ubuntu [04:47] yeah, we need steam native [04:47] and will get it :) [04:47] that's the main thing keeping him in windows [04:47] I remember it was really hard to get the launcher working. [04:47] I have no idea what I did D: [04:47] holstein: have you heard any news on that front? [04:47] I think it was something to do with Internet Explorer. [04:48] ddecator: nah, im not dropping any news [04:48] steam for OSX is out right? [04:48] holstein: to google it is [04:48] holstein: yah [04:48] has been for quite a while [04:48] end of last year [04:48] last summer or thereabouts there was something that claimed it was coming [04:49] dunno [04:50] eh, we'll get it [04:50] just have to wait on it [04:51] about the time they finish it, it'll all be in the browser :p [04:51] Isn't Linux more of an OS that gamers use than Mac? We just usually dual boot Linux and Windows. Mac users don't usually dual boot because they have macs for art things they need and that's all they do. [04:52] I just don't get what's so hard about releasing games for Windows, mac, and Linux. They realease games for Xbox and PS3 all the time. Is there really so much more overhead? === joshua2k is now known as ridin [04:53] omsniffiscent: The systems aren't the same, there's a whole complex, magical story behind it, but I think I can summarize to one thing. [04:53] heh [04:54] art things? [04:54] You know those crazy Mac kids and their art projects. [04:54] omsniffiscent: the industry doesn't think linux users are a good source of profit, which seems to inlcude steam. the indie humble bundles have changed that somewhat [04:54] yeah, i use ubuntustudio for my art projects [04:54] Good on ya. :) [04:54] :) [04:55] i tend to take notice if i think someone is implying that linux is not up to the task [04:55] Well, lol, I thought I could, meh, I know it deals a lot with ABI. [04:55] holstein: good [04:55] lol thanks anyway Jacky [04:56] Macintosh was one of the first operating systems to have adjustable width font. At that time, all other OSs had fixed-width fonts, which looked crappy. The nice font renderings drew some of the more aesthetic/artsy folk to the OS. [04:56] And mac is a leader in that field today. [04:57] In no way did I mean to imply Linux can't do it better :) [04:57] and fo free [04:57] we are getting some nice video options [04:58] audio is quite nice [04:58] holstein: Didn't we just lose H.264? [04:58] with JACK and ardour [04:58] i think it's more fair to say adobe is the leader rather than mac or windows, although macs do seem to have more in terms of music writing/recording/etc. [04:58] JackyAlcine: i think so :/ [04:58] im not a video guy really [04:58] That's definitely a cut; I hope either an open source version of such a format, or they do a Fluendo and play nice. [04:58] ddecator: +1 [04:59] But GIMP has so many more features than Photoshop. [04:59] It's not even fair. [04:59] theres an open one [04:59] It's because the learning curve for GIMP is incredible. [04:59] open 264 like [04:59] i forget what its called [04:59] photoshop does some things better and is more familiar [04:59] but, it would be a stretch for major adoption to happen [04:59] plus there is the other parts of the suite, including flash creation [05:00] ddecator: cmyk right? [05:00] Yeah I got Photoshop with my WACOM board. I can't use it. GIMP is just so much easier. [05:00] JackyAlcine, http://www.gimpshop.com/ [05:00] i have a friend that needs that, and cant use the GIMP [05:00] holstein: cmyk? [05:00] * holstein shrugs [05:00] bioterror: Lol, how many newbies would know about that one? [05:00] i was hoping you would know ;) [05:00] its an output [05:00] * ddecator is confused [05:00] ddecator: Cyan Magenta Yellow ... ? I know that's it though. [05:00] It's a color space. [05:00] oooooooh [05:00] Like HSV [05:00] yeah ^^ [05:00] or RGB [05:01] * JackyAlcine loves his graphic design classes. :D [05:01] heh, we got really off topic [05:01] k == black [05:01] lol, you know what that means? [05:01] * jledbetter loves her design classes ;) [05:01] jledbetter: Really? No wonder I kept getting that wrong.. lol [05:02] JackyAlcine, It's all good :) So you do graphic design? [05:03] omnDo you do Inkscape too? [05:03] oops [05:03] omsniffiscent, Do you do Inkscape too? [05:03] lol, but yeah, a bit, it's a class that came with my major in school. [05:04] That, photography and web design. [05:04] rgb is additive color, cmyk is subtractive (or whatever) color [05:04] Actually, I'm playing with this site (http://jackyalcine.co.cc) [05:04] * Cheri703 had to learn that stuff when working for xerox [05:04] Never heard of Inkscape. [05:05] it's the go-to for svg [05:05] !svg [05:05] svg is Scalable Vector Graphics, a language used for graphical applications in XML, and a W3 recommendation. SVG Editors: Inkscape, Karbon14 [05:05] JackyAlcine: nice :) [05:05] I don't use any graphical XML apps... afaik. [05:05] inkscape is amaaaazing [05:06] +1 Cheri703 [05:06] nice tutorials in inkscape too [05:23] does anybody know the name of that terminal program that lets you browse packages? [05:23] i had it but forgot the name lul :/ [05:23] explain more [05:23] starts with an a [05:23] installed? [05:23] aptitude [05:23] awsome!!! [05:24] aptitude or apt-get ? [05:24] love ya [05:24] it was aptitude [05:24] lol [05:24] aptitude-curses [05:24] Awww bioterror you're too quick. [05:24] I don't know about aptitude but I certainly curse [05:24] head_victim, my weife says the same :( [05:24] ^_^ [05:24] bioterror: TMI ? [05:24] wife even [05:24] i have too big thumbs for this keyboard [05:25] * head_victim goes back to writing his job application :/ 4 pages of writing, feels like I'm back at uni [05:26] haha [05:42] Hello [05:42] So I have a pretty stupid question... [05:43] I am wanting to download Ubuntu but I am on a Laptop and I am a little confused on what to download.. Do I download the desktop version or the Netbook? [05:44] desktop [05:44] netbook is designed for 10" and smaller screens [05:44] Okay now can I set it up do dual boot? [05:44] or Boot from a external Hard drive? [05:45] Dual booting with windows? [05:45] Yes [05:46] It's possible. I haven't done it myself. And you can do the "try it out" option if you'd like. Instead of installing it. [05:46] But wont that run a lot slower? [05:47] From a CD yeah. From a USB slightly. [05:47] My External Hard Drive is considered a USB correct? [05:47] Yes. [05:48] Okay So Can I install it to my external hard drive and make it boot from there? [05:48] uhh... I wouldn't see why not. I'm no expert, though. [05:48] Okay Thanks! [05:49] :) [05:49] hey err me again, [05:50] i partitioned off 4.2 gb of ram [05:50] *memory [05:50] for swap [05:50] and i have 4gb of ram [05:50] yet when i hybrinate [05:50] the screen just goes black indefinately [05:50] but lit [05:50] Oh I think that's an issue with Ubuntu... D: [05:50] !hibernate [05:50] Factoid 'hibernate' not found [05:50] :/ [05:51] !suspend [05:51] Factoid 'suspend' not found [05:51] :D [05:51] lol [05:51] what? [05:52] O.o [05:55] maybe i should get a network monitor [05:56] @xAndromeda Did you install Ubuntu inside of windows? [05:58] and i'm essentially on my own [05:58] xAndromeda: is it a laptop or a desktop? [05:58] seidos: what do you mean by network monitor? [05:59] So, I installed 10.04 in a Virtualbox to see what this Unity thing is all about. I did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:canonical-dx-team/une and then I did the apt update but when I do sudo apt-get install unity it says there's no unity package [06:00] 10.04 doesn't have unity [06:00] 10.10 netbook and 11.04 have unity [06:00] There's no way to add it? [06:00] not to my knowledge, you're probably wanting 11.04 [06:01] I can't download 11.04 it'd take weeks. [06:01] My roommate torrents constantly and takes all the bandwidth. [06:01] xAndromeda: please ask first before pm'ing. It may matter which type, because some laptop hardware doesn't handle the hibernate command properly [06:01] omsniffiscent: you can download it via torrent (at least full releases, not sure about pre-release), perhaps have him do it? [06:02] where can i download 11.04 [06:02] www.ubuntu.com :P [06:03] I've been trying to torrent a virtual copy of Arch Linux for weeks. [06:03] i only see 1010 [06:03] 10.10 [06:03] so...who pays for the internet? [06:03] oh O.o [06:03] I gots no bandwidth. We split it. [06:04] so...if you both share the bill, he should limit his bandwidth, no? [06:04] TylerDeLawder: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 [06:04] TylerDeLawder: https://encrypted.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS240&q=download+ubuntu+11.04&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq= [06:04] :) [06:05] xAndromeda: google your laptop model ubuntu hibernate and see what you get [06:05] The problem is she doesn't understand how. I've told her like 800 times what numbers she needs to put in upload and download. She's not stupid. I think she just doesn't want to limit herself. [06:05] hmm... [06:06] can you discuss scheduling? say "limited bandwidth during the day, unlimited at night" and see if she agrees? [06:06] (sorry for assuming your roommate was a he) [06:06] omsniffiscent: can you download it outside the house? like at school or a coffee shop or something? [06:07] The problem with that is she stays up all night and sleeps all day. She torrents while she's sleeping. Which is when I'm awake. We've discussed it, she thinks she's being considerate only torrenting while she's asleep. [06:07] Also while she's awake she constantly has netflix streaming. [06:07] o.O [06:07] that's annoying [06:07] And if I do anything she yells at me that netflix 'is broken'. [06:08] what torrent software does she use? [06:08] I don't have a laptop. [06:08] do you have access to her computer at any time? [06:08] Something weird I've never heard of. But it has limiters on it. I've typed them into it before. [06:08] Heh. That's umm... not territory I'm willing to go into. Yet. [06:08] well... [06:08] can I pm you? I have an idea [06:09] Last time I used her laptop to play a video on my giant screen LCDTV she flipped out and we didn't talk for a week. [06:09] Please, do. [06:15] all right, why would i use 32bit (old) when i can use 64bit (new)...i get it [06:16] lol what? [06:16] what version of ubuntu will be offered only in 64bit? [06:16] * seidos facepalms [06:16] hopefully this works [06:17] i wonder if someday there will be like only one university in each country for IS [06:17] anywho [06:20] seidos, back in the days 64bit was less supported [06:20] as you can see that in few months we have just got a 64bit flash :D [06:20] D: [06:20] and still is by some parts [06:20] bbl [06:22] bioterror: 64-bit computing is possible when you have over 4 Ghz of memory? [06:22] 4GHz of memory? :D [06:22] * JackyAlcine headbangs. [06:22] Lol [06:22] 4GHz of computing power! lol [06:22] I have 6Ghz on this other PC here. [06:22] yes, 64bit kernel supports over 3GB of RAM by default [06:23] Ah, so under 3GB, it wouldn't work, no? [06:23] with 32bit you have to go for the PAE (Physical Address Extension) and you can have up to 64GB of RAM [06:23] it wont show more than 3GB [06:23] Hmm. Okay. [06:24] and you can wonder yourself is it smart to waste that ~4GB of ram for a bigger address spaces and so on.... [06:24] for example [06:24] hmmm [06:24] if you say "ifconfig" [06:24] you will see the TX and RX [06:24] with 32bit system it will start for 0 after 4GB [06:25] and with 64bit [06:25] RX bytes:310611819551 (296222.5 Mb) TX bytes:584285327696 (557217.9 Mb) [06:25] from 0 [06:26] Hmm. [06:47] Okay so is there away to boot Ubuntu Desktop Edition from my External Hard Drive I changed the boot order and placed the .iso on my exteral and it just stays black [06:48] #ubuntu [06:48] you have to use the usb startup disk creator [06:49] or just install it to the external [06:49] the boot loader can't read the iso [06:49] !install [06:49] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [07:45] Woo. Almost crashed linux. [07:49] Awesome :) [08:01] hey how do you get past the aptitude eula screen? [08:01] thteres an ok button but its not working O.o [08:01] tab [08:01] and enter [08:01] awsome! [08:01] :) [08:01] took me a bit the first time [08:02] :D [08:23] yay suspend is fixed :D but still no hibrinate [08:23] sad panda :( [08:24] :D [08:24] small victories [08:25] :( [08:25] what kind of computer you have [08:26] HP Pavilion G-60 atm [08:26] I'm trying to put a file on an SD card and I keep getting an error message that the destination is read only. [08:28] is the sd card locked? [08:28] no. First thing I checked. [08:28] Under the permissions tab for file access it just says --- [08:28] is that normal? [08:28] When I try to change permissions it gives me the same error. [08:28] format that SD card ;) [08:29] go to terminal, gksudo nautilus [08:29] and try again [08:29] read only file system. [08:29] that opens nautilus with sudo privileges applied [08:29] Destination is read-only. same error. [08:29] Wed10:29 <+bioterror> format that SD card ;) [08:30] hmmmm [08:30] But all muh stuffs :( [08:30] if there's important files, copy them and format [08:31] It won't. Error. [08:31] have you used that sd card slot before? in linux? [08:31] uh. mmaybe.... [08:31] I think so. [08:31] hmm...k [08:31] I can look at my pictures. [08:32] hmm...k [08:32] hmmm [08:32] main suggestion I'm seeing is to blow into the slot with canned air o.O [08:32] There was an error getting information about files in the folder blah blah error stating file '/media/lots of numbers/foldername':input/output error [08:33] like an old nintendo cartridge [08:33] lol [08:33] Back in the day. [08:34] It only said it for two folders. It seems to be copying muh stuffs naow. [08:34] META-INF which is an empty folder... [08:35] hey how do you stop xchat from minimizing to systray? O.o [08:35] might be a settings from where :D [08:36] * bioterror doesnt use xchat [08:36] do you have a usb card reader? [08:36] I have used it like 2 times [08:36] i cant find it in any of the settigns O.o [08:36]