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| cjwatson | no Robbie today? | 16:02 |
| barry | no | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | bah, slacker :) | 16:03 |
| cjwatson | #startmeeting | 16:04 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:04. The chair is cjwatson. | 16:04 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | ok, who's here? | 16:04 |
| barry | o/ | 16:05 |
| ev | o/ | 16:05 |
| mvo | hello | 16:05 |
| jhunt | hi | 16:05 |
| csurbhi1 | o/ | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | doko: around? | 16:06 |
| doko | here | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | great, so everyone except Robbie | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 16:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Lightning round | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | done: biosdevname packaging and integration; fixing bugs for alpha-3, including most of a day spent tracking down bug 723482 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 723482 in alsa-utils (Ubuntu) "system hangs on boot after updates from 2011-02-22" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723482 | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | todo: more bugs arising from multiarch dpkg; lots of beta-1 bugs to beat on | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | -- | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | in order of showing up in my client, then :) | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | barry: | 16:07 |
| barry | short week due to usa holiday; python-keyring, launchpadlib bug fixing, upgrades; reviewed some branches; claws bugs 724414 724416; ubuntu dev guide/udd updates; helped #ubuntu-touch w/python issues; python hg experimentation; mm3 refactoring; udd class presented; dh_python2 and flufl.enum; done. | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 724414 in claws-mail (Ubuntu) "Configure menu is disabled" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724414 | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | ev: | 16:08 |
| barry | that one was caused by some weird brokenness in an early maverick->natty upgrade (which i never did track down) | 16:08 |
| barry | bug 724416 is the one that's kicking my butt now | 16:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 724416 in claws-mail (Ubuntu) "Claws appends sent message to Sent folder twice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/724416 | 16:08 |
| ev | Getting the partitioner redesign and upgrade/reinstall stuff ready for alpha 3. Fixing bugs. (Apologies for the terseness, on an iPad) | 16:09 |
| ev | Done | 16:09 |
| mvo | upgrade/reinstall: \o/ | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | mvo: | 16:10 |
| mvo | rnr-server: | 16:10 |
| mvo | review branch reviews | 16:10 |
| mvo | land lp:~mvo/rnr-server/retrieve-by-id | 16:10 |
| mvo | propose lp:~mvo/rnr-server/make-port-configurable, | 16:10 |
| mvo | propose lp:~mvo/rnr-server/validate-token-without-ubuntu-sso | 16:10 |
| mvo | software-center: | 16:10 |
| mvo | add weblive prototype (with stgraber), fix crash after new review is entered, lp:~gary-lasker/software-center/deauthorize-my-computer, work on lp:~mvo/software-center/appstore-experiment but not successful (keeps hanging in odd places), branch review/merges | 16:10 |
| ev | Thanks so much for your help with that. I'll get to your emails just as soon as I have more of a computer in front of me. | 16:10 |
| mvo | Update-manager: | 16:10 |
| mvo | review/merge lp:~thibault-lemaitre/ubuntu/natty/update-manager/from_pkg.isInstalled_to_pkg.is_installed | 16:10 |
| mvo | work on 3g roaming detection (based on Alex Chiang patch) | 16:10 |
| mvo | (done) | 16:10 |
| mvo | ev: no worries | 16:10 |
| jhunt | 3 of the 4 main Upstart feature branches for Natty are now "in the | 16:11 |
| jhunt | wild". Finished check-config Upstart feature along with all tests for | 16:11 |
| jhunt | visualisation work: branch just needs merging to be ready for early next | 16:11 |
| jhunt | week. Have digested + documented socket bridge for Upstart for Natty | 16:11 |
| jhunt | code drop 2. Currently working on Keybuks session branch, and merging | 16:11 |
| jhunt | visualisation code into Ubuntu branch. Updated FFE bug 723846 with | 16:11 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 723846 in upstart (Ubuntu Natty) "Feature Freeze Exception request for Upstart in Natty" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723846 | 16:11 |
| jhunt | progress. | 16:11 |
| jhunt | EOT | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | csurbhi1: | 16:11 |
| csurbhi1 | Introduced timer in mountall to wait for ROOTDELAY time for device to be configured by udev. | 16:11 |
| csurbhi1 | Created, tested upstart jobs to start the recovery process if the ROOTDELAY time expires. | 16:11 |
| csurbhi1 | Created, tested upstart jobs to run the initramfs :: init_top and initramfs :: init_premount scripts | 16:11 |
| csurbhi1 | Experimented with udev attributes in upstart jobs (waiting for device configuration in real systems outside initramfs) | 16:11 |
| csurbhi1 | DONE | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | doko: | 16:11 |
| doko | bootstrap work, libreoffice mentoring, libreoffice build fixes for two archs, looking into openjdk-6 build failures, need to fix more ... | 16:11 |
| doko | -- | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | excellent, thank you. is anyone blocked on anything? | 16:11 |
| doko | http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110125-natty.html | 16:11 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110125-natty.html | 16:11 |
| mvo | not as such, but I'm waiting for a new staging.reviews.ubuntu.com deployment | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | is that in RT? | 16:12 |
| mvo | yeah | 16:12 |
| mvo | the review-userfulness feature is hidden until this lands | 16:12 |
| doko | I think the ones in main should be looked at, but maybe this can wait next week's rebuild test | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | ah, 44261? | 16:12 |
| mvo | hold on a sec, need to find it in my inbox | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | doko: I've already filed bugs about at least gluezilla and linphone | 16:13 |
| mvo | #44197 | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | I'll have a look at syslinux | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | uploads should probably wait until after alpha-2 now though | 16:13 |
| doko | my latex knowledge seems to be rusty, can't see the reason for the srtp build failure | 16:14 |
| ScottK | doko: What's the timeline on getting Bug #705689 fixed? | 16:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 705689 in Linaro GCC 4.5 "Qt applications crash with segfault error on armel when Qt is built with gcc 4.5 on natty" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705689 | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | oh, goodness, that syslinux bug, I sent that upstream - I'll have to go and check | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | [TOPIC] AOB | 16:15 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | (since we've drifted and I don't have anything else specific) | 16:15 |
| ScottK | I think we're going to start building all of KDE with gcc4.4 in the meantime if it's not fixed soon. | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | there's a patch in comment 30 on that bug; I don't know if it's just for qgesturemanager, or fixes everything | 16:17 |
| doko | ScottK: no | 16:17 |
| doko | not targeted for any milestone | 16:17 |
| doko | I don't see it yet in the linaro branch | 16:17 |
| ScottK | It was targetted to Alpha 3 until a day or two ago. | 16:18 |
| mvo | doko: the xscreensaver one looks like its actually a bug while instlaling console-setup - how to get stuff off that list in those cases? | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | mvo: well, that's still a bug, just not in xscreensaver ... | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | so I need to work on that | 16:19 |
| doko | it's not targeted at all, hmm pitti ... | 16:21 |
| cjwatson | should probably be beta-1, IMO | 16:21 |
| doko | looks like this will be part of gcc-4.5 2011-03 | 16:22 |
| ScottK | When does that land? | 16:22 |
| doko | in 03 | 16:23 |
| doko | lets move on, addressing this on #u-r | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | OK, I don't think there's anything else anyway, from the looks of things | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | mvo: I'm asking Chipaca if he's already escalated that RT or if I need to | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | any other business? going once ... | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | going twice ... | 16:24 |
| mvo | cjwatson: getting a ETA would be nice | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | mvo: OK, I'll try to extract that from somebody | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | ... gone. thanks all. | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | #endmeeting | 16:25 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:25. | 16:25 |
| ev | Thanks | 16:25 |
| barry | thanks! | 16:26 |
| doko | meetings are shorter without robbie ;) | 16:27 |
| jhunt | cheers | 16:27 |
| * cjwatson has a low tolerance for long meetings | 16:27 | |
| mvo | thnkas! | 16:28 |
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| barry | #startmeeting | 21:01 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 15:01. The chair is barry. | 21:01 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 21:01 |
| barry | hi everyone and welcome to this week's ubuntu distributed development steering committee meeting. all are welcome to join in | 21:01 |
| barry | [TOPIC] agenda | 21:01 |
| MootBot | New Topic: agenda | 21:01 |
| barry | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110302 | 21:01 |
| barry | [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110302 | 21:01 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/20110302 | 21:01 |
| barry | we're going to wait a few minutes until poolie arrives | 21:02 |
| barry | who else is here today? | 21:02 |
| jelmer | me! | 21:02 |
| jelmer | Hi Barry | 21:03 |
| barry | hi jelmer. great to have you here | 21:03 |
| jelmer | barry: did you see poolie's email? | 21:04 |
| jelmer | g'morning Ian | 21:04 |
| barry | jelmer: yep, he said he'd be 15m late. we can wait | 21:04 |
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| barry | if he's any longer, we'll start. so folks, hang out until 2115 utc | 21:05 |
| barry | okay, hopefully poolie will be along soon. i guess we should get started though | 21:16 |
| barry | [TOPIC] action items | 21:16 |
| MootBot | New Topic: action items | 21:16 |
| barry | most of these are poolie's but please chime in if you know the status of them | 21:16 |
| barry | * poolie to advertise udd projects to non-staff contributors | 21:16 |
| barry | i believe this is done | 21:16 |
| barry | * poolie to integrate jml's feedback into lep | 21:17 |
| barry | anybody know anything about this one? | 21:17 |
| jelmer | I don't think I've seen anything about the first item | 21:17 |
| barry | oh, maybe i'm just thinking about the internal email | 21:18 |
| barry | * poolie to meet with allison re lep | 21:18 |
| barry | * poolie to meet with robbiew re lep | 21:18 |
| barry | know anything about these? | 21:19 |
| jelmer | I think the second item happened, or at least something about it happened. | 21:19 |
| barry | i don't know what these leps are about. do you know? | 21:19 |
| jelmer | ah | 21:19 |
| jelmer | it's https://dev.launchpad.net/LEP/BuildFromBranchIntoPrimary | 21:20 |
| barry | ah, cool. yep, i've been following that one | 21:20 |
| jelmer | the LEP mentions Allison read it | 21:20 |
| barry | cool, thanks | 21:21 |
| barry | * jam to propose/report plan for quilt imports | 21:21 |
| barry | jam doesn't appear to be around | 21:21 |
| barry | he's in a different timezone now :) | 21:21 |
| jelmer | yeah, I guess something went wrong there :) | 21:22 |
| * barry is particularly interested in this one | 21:22 | |
| jelmer | james_w: ping | 21:22 |
| james_w | hi | 21:22 |
| jelmer | barry: I've been working on getting daily builds of GNOME packages based on the upstream imports and the ubuntu-desktop packaging branches | 21:22 |
| james_w | sorry I am late | 21:22 |
| jelmer | barry: I'm slowly starting to realise what an awesome feature properly working looms would be | 21:23 |
| barry | :) | 21:23 |
| barry | jelmer: do you think looms<->quilts makes sense? | 21:24 |
| jelmer | barry: Yes; I think we should fix looms where it doesn't make sense | 21:24 |
| barry | very cool | 21:25 |
| barry | * poolie forward/link to https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/ComponentReleasesWithBzr | 21:25 |
| barry | 21:25 | |
| barry | i guess w/o poolie we should move on | 21:26 |
| barry | [TOPIC] Package importer progress | 21:26 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Package importer progress | 21:26 |
| barry | james_w and/or jelmer ? | 21:26 |
| jelmer | Vincent and John fixed a lot of things in the importer | 21:26 |
| james_w | vila has done some good work cleaning up the code and making it more robust | 21:27 |
| james_w | there were also some bugs fixed that were causing import failures | 21:27 |
| slangasek | poolie did forward that link to ubuntu-devel, so maybe that's done? | 21:27 |
| james_w | there's a bzr bug that spiv has a branch for that is affecting quite a few imports | 21:27 |
| barry | slangasek: i do seem to remember it as well | 21:27 |
| james_w | in fact it occurs when there is a collision detected | 21:27 |
| james_w | and we had our first (known) real live one of those yesterday | 21:28 |
| barry | james_w: what kind of collision do you mean? | 21:28 |
| poolie | hi all | 21:28 |
| james_w | so the crash indicates it would have done the right thing, but it was a shame not to see it work out :-) | 21:28 |
| jelmer | 'morning poolie | 21:28 |
| james_w | someone pushed to the branch at the same time someone else uploaded | 21:28 |
| james_w | so the archive and the branch disagreed | 21:28 |
| james_w | hi poolie | 21:28 |
| barry | hi poolie | 21:29 |
| barry | gotcha | 21:29 |
| slangasek | james_w: is this a collision that only occurs when the upload and push both happen within a certain rescan interval? Because we've certainly had collisions of the more general kind before | 21:29 |
| barry | poolie: we ran through the action items already, but since most of them are assigned to you, can you catch us up in a few minutes? | 21:30 |
| james_w | slangasek, you mean two people uploading, or collisions involving UDD? | 21:31 |
| james_w | perhaps collision isn't the best name for this situation | 21:31 |
| slangasek | james_w: one person committing to the UDD branch, followed by someone ignoring the branch and uploading | 21:31 |
| poolie | sure | 21:31 |
| james_w | slangasek, right, that's the same situation | 21:31 |
| slangasek | james_w: ok, so yesterday is definitely not the first time this has happened, but maybe there's a new bug in bzr that's entangled here :) | 21:32 |
| james_w | slangasek, ok, it was the first confirmed one that I could remember :-) | 21:32 |
| slangasek | oh, sorry | 21:32 |
| slangasek | didn't know you wanted me to yell when it happens :-) | 21:32 |
| barry | james_w: any summary on how we're doing for package imports? # or % fewer failures now? how many still failing? | 21:33 |
| james_w | slangasek, nope, it's supposed to be taken care of automatically. This time it was just that people weren't sure what would happen, and so asked me to take a look | 21:33 |
| james_w | there are numbers and graphs on http://package-import.ubuntu.com/status/ | 21:34 |
| james_w | you can see that there has been a downward trend since the start of the year | 21:34 |
| slangasek | a number of the current import failures are cases where I know there's been divergence between UDD and archive, followed by a manual fix-up on the branch | 21:35 |
| barry | that's really fantastic | 21:35 |
| slangasek | how can we reconcile those so they're not shown as failures? | 21:35 |
| slangasek | (see, this has been going on for quite a while, and I thought I was doing good by updating the branches by hand ;) | 21:36 |
| james_w | slangasek, do you have an example? | 21:36 |
| slangasek | james_w: sure, one sec | 21:36 |
| slangasek | james_w: qemu-linaro | 21:36 |
| slangasek | also, armel-cross-toolchain-base cdbs gcc-4.5-armel-cross plymouth | 21:36 |
| james_w | ok, that needs an importer admin to check and tell the importer that the situation is fine, and it should carry on | 21:37 |
| slangasek | how best do I raise this (outside of the present meeting, that is?) | 21:37 |
| slangasek | I think the one time I tried to raise it on #is, I had bad timing due to the importer being offline right after squeeze release :) | 21:37 |
| james_w | a bug on udd would be appropriate I think | 21:38 |
| slangasek | ok | 21:38 |
| james_w | the procedure is documented on the wiki if you ask an admin and they don't know how to do it | 21:38 |
| poolie | just what issue is "this"? | 21:39 |
| james_w | that someone messed with the branches, and the importer currently keeps an audit log and complains when that happens | 21:40 |
| poolie | ok | 21:40 |
| barry | if now's a good time, poolie can you catch us up on the action items? | 21:42 |
| poolie | sure | 21:42 |
| poolie | so, we had a big thread about udd, with some feedback about the lep | 21:42 |
| poolie | i still need to fold that in | 21:42 |
| poolie | i spoke to allison about it; not yet to robbie | 21:42 |
| poolie | i was going to update it and then talk to him | 21:43 |
| poolie | i did forward a link to poolie forward/link to https://wiki.linaro.org/Platform/DevPlatform/ComponentReleasesWithBzr in to the packaging doc thread | 21:43 |
| barry | did you advertise the udd projects to non-staff? | 21:44 |
| poolie | not as such, only through discussion on the u-d list | 21:44 |
| poolie | what would be a good way to do that? | 21:44 |
| barry | other than also on the bzr mlists? i don't know | 21:45 |
| poolie | perhaps we should can that | 21:45 |
| barry | cool. i can leave that one un-done | 21:45 |
| poolie | i think on the whole it's better to just be open about what we're doing and have easy tasks for people to begin on if they want | 21:45 |
| barry | yep | 21:46 |
| barry | poolie: do you know anything about jam's progress/plan for quilt imports? | 21:46 |
| poolie | also, i spoke to flacoste and jml about scheduling work on the lep | 21:46 |
| poolie | which is the main thing we have to do next | 21:47 |
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| poolie | it's not a very large amount of work, but it's not trivial | 21:47 |
| poolie | s/on the lep/on building source packages directly from branches without recipes | 21:47 |
| poolie | at the moment it looks like it is second in the queue for new tasks to start | 21:47 |
| poolie | after finishing disclosure management (aka privacy, acls, etc) | 21:48 |
| barry | makes sense | 21:48 |
| poolie | that one is highly desired by canonical oem teams, and still half-done | 21:48 |
| poolie | [action] poolie talk to stakeholders about bfbip scheduling | 21:49 |
| barry | [action] poolie talk to stakeholders about bfbip scheduling | 21:49 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: poolie talk to stakeholders about bfbip scheduling | 21:49 |
| poolie | we could possibly try it ourselves inside the bzr team, but i think on the whole it's better to wait for an lp squad | 21:49 |
| poolie | if they don't take it at that time, perhaps we will | 21:50 |
| poolie | regarding jam and looms: he's moving house so a bit distracted | 21:50 |
| poolie | i have seen some work by jelmer and others on looms recently | 21:50 |
| barry | poolie: thanks. any other news on action items? | 21:51 |
| poolie | the plan on quilts is basically to turn the into looms | 21:51 |
| poolie | i think that's the full list? | 21:51 |
| * poolie looks in old minutes | 21:52 | |
| poolie | our kanban is now at <http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html> and should be updated every 30m | 21:53 |
| poolie | were there other actions for me? | 21:53 |
| poolie | otherwise perahps we should look at hot bugs | 21:53 |
| barry | poolie: yes, let's look at bugs | 21:54 |
| barry | [TOPIC] hot bugs | 21:54 |
| MootBot | New Topic: hot bugs | 21:54 |
| poolie | http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html | 21:54 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~mbp/kanban/canonical-bazaar-kanban.html | 21:54 |
| barry | poolie: the floor is yours | 21:54 |
| poolie | just looking over that board | 21:55 |
| poolie | one change in the last week is that vila landed a new controller infrastructure into the package importer, which is supposed to make it more reliable | 21:55 |
| poolie | it closed some bugs, anyhow | 21:55 |
| poolie | as of approximately today, we're moving the package importer to its new hardware, and making it sysadmin-maintained | 21:56 |
| poolie | jelmer is working on foreign branch bugs, and on infrastructure to allow testing them | 21:56 |
| barry | nice! | 21:58 |
| poolie | are there any bugs people would like attention to? | 21:58 |
| barry | i don't remember the bug number, but the one about warning when branching a package that has import failures. | 21:59 |
| poolie | barry, <https://bugs.launchpad.net/udd/+bug/609187>, it's on the short list | 22:00 |
| poolie | thanks for the vote | 22:00 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 609187 in Ubuntu Distributed Development "bzr branch lp:ubuntu/foo should warn when foo is out of date" [High,Triaged] | 22:00 |
| barry | yep, thanks! | 22:00 |
| barry | anyone have anything else for bugs of interest? | 22:01 |
| poolie | ok, next item? | 22:01 |
| barry | [TOPIC] * Any other business? | 22:01 |
| barry | 22:01 | |
| MootBot | New Topic: * Any other business? | 22:01 |
| barry | going once... | 22:02 |
| poolie | for next time: we should schedule some uds sessions | 22:02 |
| barry | oh, i should mention: i did an intro to udd class on monday during ubuntu developer week. it was very well received. but 1h is not enough time to cover everything ;) | 22:03 |
| poolie | oh, great! | 22:03 |
| poolie | thanks for that | 22:03 |
| james_w | yeah, thanks | 22:03 |
| slangasek | I have a request I wanted to raise but I'm currently suffering contention, so I'll just file a bug against udd for now | 22:03 |
| barry | np | 22:03 |
| poolie | k | 22:03 |
| poolie | actually, can you give me an item to prepare for uds? | 22:04 |
| poolie | i think just something like a tutorial session and a planning session | 22:04 |
| poolie | jelmer and i will be there | 22:04 |
| barry | [action] poolie to prepare udd sessions for uds | 22:04 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: poolie to prepare udd sessions for uds | 22:04 |
| barry | [action] poolie to prepare udd sessions for uds-o | 22:04 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: poolie to prepare udd sessions for uds-o | 22:04 |
| barry | excellent. i'll be there too | 22:04 |
| barry | i guess the only other thing i have today is to remind folks that we won't have another meeting until 2011-03-23 because of pycon | 22:05 |
| poolie | oh, ok | 22:05 |
| barry | well, unless you want to chair it? | 22:06 |
| barry | (on the 16th) | 22:06 |
| poolie | i think the 23rd is fine | 22:06 |
| poolie | shall we then continue every 2nd week from then? | 22:06 |
| barry | yep | 22:06 |
| barry | poolie: i think you are the keeper of the google calendar. can you update that? | 22:06 |
| jelmer | can I be added to the google calendar? | 22:07 |
| poolie | done and done | 22:08 |
| barry | poolie: awesome, thanks | 22:08 |
| barry | if there's nothing else for today... | 22:08 |
| barry | 5 | 22:08 |
| barry | 4 | 22:08 |
| barry | 3 | 22:08 |
| barry | 2 | 22:09 |
| barry | 1 | 22:09 |
| barry | #endmeeting | 22:09 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 16:09. | 22:09 |
| poolie | have a good night everyone | 22:09 |
| barry | thanks everyone! see you in atlanta, or in 3 weeks here | 22:09 |
| james_w | thanks | 22:10 |
| jelmer | g'night | 22:10 |
| barry | night | 22:11 |
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