evRiddell: what partitioning method did you choose in bug 726581?00:04
ubot4Launchpad bug 726581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "install stops half way through (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 3510)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72658100:04
jdstrandskaet_: re bug #727478. it is actually worse than I initially thought00:10
ubot4Launchpad bug 727478 in mysql-5.1 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "mysql upgrade hang at 'installing new version of config file /etc/init/mysql.conf' during upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72747800:10
jdstrandskaet_: it is an apparmor userspace built on natty's kernel on a maverick kernel issue00:11
jdstrandskaet_: it shouldn't be horribly hard to fix-- jjohansen is looking at a fix this evening00:11
jdstrandskaet_: mysql users upgrading will get bit by the bug and the upgrade will interminably hang due to how the upstart job is written00:12
skaet_jstrand:  thanks,  not quite sure I'm parsing "on natty's kernel on a maverick kernel" - can you expand a bit.00:12
jdstrandskaet_: other apparmor consumers will be affected as well, but the severit is unknown atm00:12
jdstrandskaet_: after reboot all is fine00:12
cjwatson(apparmor userspace built on natty's kernel) on a maverick kernel00:12
cjwatsonbracket it thus and it makes more sense00:13
skaet_yup that helps.00:13
jdstrandskaet_: now, this only affects upgrades, not installs00:14
skaet_jdstrand, so there is a workaround to do a reboot?  does that work for mysql users or just the other cases.00:14
jdstrandskaet_: but an upload of apparmor means it is on all the CDs00:14
jdstrandskaet_: well, rebooting isn't a workaround, it is just things are correct then00:14
jdstrandskaet_: mysql users have to stop the mysql upgrade in some manner and revocer from a partial do-release-upgrade00:15
jdstrandskaet_: it is not pretty00:15
skaet_jdstrand: agreed.00:15
jdstrandskaet_: so the question is timing. people are working on a fix, and we should hopefully have something tonight00:16
slangasekjdstrand: it's generally ok to have newer packages in the archive than are on CDs at the time of alpha release; I don't think that should block you from fixing a critical upgrade bug00:16
slangasek(assuming skaet_ agrees)00:16
jdstrandskaet_: the question is do you want it on the CDs, if so when is the deadline00:16
jdstrandskaet_: or what slangasek said, which is we upload before alpha3 is announced so upgraders can get it00:17
jdstrandI'm partial to the second option00:17
skaet_jdstrand, slangasek,  sorry for the slowness of response,  thinking00:17
skaet_jdstrand, slangasek,  yeah,  lets keep the image building and have this uploaded to the archive, and document it in the release notes that its a known issue.  Not good, but I think we're running out of options.00:19
jdstrandskaet_: what time do you plan to announce alpha3?00:20
jdstrandskaet_: I can just make sure that it is in there before then, so any inspired 10.10 users will get it00:21
skaet_jdstrand,  alpha3 will be announced on Thursday afternoon, evening, after we know we have reasonable coverage from the QA team.00:21
jdstrandskaet_: cool, thanks. I'll pass that along and keep you updated00:21
skaet_thanks jdstrand.00:21
slangasekwaiting for this ubiquity build really makes me want qemu armel builders00:23
skaet_slangasek,  have the rebuilds triggered yet with that last upload?00:23
slangaseknope, still waiting :)00:23
skaet_ok,  I'm going to break for dinner,  will be back in an hour or so.00:24
* skaet_ crossing fingers ready we have a good set when jibel wakes up. 00:25
cjwatsonhmm, I should have started building CDs a while back, per pitti's comment00:25
cjwatsonoh, but slangasek has them queued00:25
cjwatsonyou know, I think I need coffee00:25
cjwatsonbug 723482 is kicking my ass00:25
ubot4Launchpad bug 723482 in mountall (Ubuntu) "system hangs on boot after updates from 2011-02-22 (affects: 14) (heat: 78)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72348200:25
* slangasek taps his fingers on the desk and stares intently at the I/O bound armel builder00:28
slangasekI could put that .deb together faster by hand with a magnet and a pottery wheel00:29
cjwatsonof course00:29
cjwatsonmounted MOUNTPOINT=/usr and mounted MOUNTPOINT=/var => the first mounted event waits forever for alsa-restore to come back => deadlock00:30
* cjwatson stupid00:30
slangasekis that in a package?00:31
slangasek'cause neither of those are supposed to appear in shipping upstart jobs, you don't get any mounted events at all for paths that aren't mount points00:31
cjwatsonit should just be 'filesystem'00:32
cjwatsonI'll fix it up in a bit00:32
cjwatsonslangasek: in fact, the whole thing is redundant since it's also 'start on runlevel [2345]'00:36
cjwatsonand runlevel [2345] is always after filesystem ...00:36
slangasekthere we go, ubiquity/armel built, publisher going00:43
GrueMasterslangasek: is that a fix for bug 727468?00:44
ubot4Launchpad bug 727468 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "oem-config crashed during install on armel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72746800:44
GrueMasterso, what's the point of respinning?00:44
slangasekI'm respinning desktop cds00:45
slangasekoh, there aren't actually any arm desktop cds building these days, are there00:45
slangasekso I guess I didn't need to wait00:45
GrueMasterOh.  But I thought you were waiting for ubiquity to publish.00:45
cjwatsonother architectures00:45
GrueMasterWell, we will need to push another update and respin anyways if we can't get this fixed.00:46
slangasekI would have thought you need a respin if you /do/ get it fixed?00:47
* cjwatson doesn't have the faintest idea what's going on from the debug log in 727468, I'm afraid00:47
cjwatsonI expect that somebody with some degree of installer experience needs to debug it locally00:48
GrueMasterI'll light a fire under ncommander and get him on it.00:49
skaet_slangasek, will you be publishing the images this evening as they emerge from the builder or do you need my help?01:46
slangaseksure, I'm around and can publish them to the tracker01:47
=== doko__ is now known as doko
skaet_slangasek,  thanks!   will focus on the Tech Overview, and then get some sleep01:55
* skaet_ expects its going to be a late couple of next nights.01:55
slangasekskaet_: ok :)01:55
slangasekubuntu, kubuntu desktop CDs re-posted03:02
* highvoltage wonders if some of those errors in LP: #727468 are related to bug 72335703:29
ubot4Launchpad bug 723357 in casper (Ubuntu) "ISO filesystem not mounted properly on Live USB disks (affects: 1) (heat: 503)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72335703:29
slangasekcjwatson: ah, I see you already knew about bug #727603 still being an issue... ran across it this evening because it was still causing trouble for smoser's UEC builds, and I'm wondering if it could be related to the oem-config troubles06:02
ubot4Launchpad bug 727603 in dpkg (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "/var/lib/dpkg/info/$arch still a directory on new installs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72760306:02
slangasekdon't see anything in oem-config that would account for it06:06
slangasekGrueMaster, ogra: ^^ a test for this would be to boot a preinstalled image, pull up a root terminal, and run 'mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/armel/* /var/lib/dpkg/info/ && rmdir /var/lib/dpkg/info/armel && ln -sf . /var/lib/dpkg/info/armel'; if that solves bug #727468, we probably want another dpkg upload to fix this06:26
ubot4Launchpad bug 727468 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "oem-config crashed during install on armel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72746806:26
GrueMasterslangasek: Thanks, I'll try that shortly.  Currently looking at other possible angles.06:28
GrueMasterslangasek: btw:  I tried reproducing this on x86 in a vm.  Unfortunately after doing an oem install and reboot, oem-config is gone and there is nothing to indicate that the user needs to configure the system.06:45
pittiGood morning07:04
pittiah, so the new dpkg required rebuilding all the desktops?07:08
pittibut not the alternates?07:08
GrueMasterslangasek: Your proposed solution is already there. ls -l /var/lib/dpkg/info/armel07:23
GrueMasterlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 2011-03-01 11:26 armel -> .07:23
GrueMasterSo that can't be it.07:23
slangasekpitti: yes, the alternates don't call dpkg --root07:23
slangasekGrueMaster: ok, thanks for checking07:23
slangasekI think that means I'm off the hook as far as having broken the preinstalled images is concerned07:24
slangasekdon't see how it can be multiarch's doing07:24
GrueMasterAwww.  We'll still think of you.  :P07:26
pittislangasek: do you think bug 727603 affects the desktops/alternates/DVDs as well? (they mostly seem to work, but there might be suble breakage)07:26
ubot4Launchpad bug 727603 in dpkg (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "/var/lib/dpkg/info/$arch still a directory on new installs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72760307:26
slangasekpitti: it definitely /affects/ some set of these, but the last image it was known to /break/, the uec image, is now sorted07:27
slangasekI think this is just something to clean up post alpha07:28
slangasekunless someone shows some other way that it's breaking us, I'd rather we take our time now and fix it the right way once the dpkg upstream changes are finalized, since it seems the subdirectory is going away as quickly as it came07:29
pittislangasek: i. e. replace it with a symlink for the 'native' arch, and leave the other $arch directories alone?07:29
slangasekif there are any other $arch directories07:29
slangaseknobody should be doing that yet, so yeah, they get to keep both pieces on upgrade07:30
pitti.. which will only be the case if people actually play with multiarch07:30
pittii. e. flashplugin-installer and friends still use the old method with ia32-libs, so it shouldn't hit a lot of people07:30
slangasekit shouldn't hit anyone who doesn't have my phone number :)07:30
pittislangasek: can it happen that dpkg actually puts any files into $arch/?07:30
slangasekonly for $arch == $native07:30
pittiI just wonder if we can end up in a situation where both info/ and info/$arch/ have files for the same package07:31
slangasekright now it puts *all* files there, and $arch/ is just conveniently a symlink in the common case07:31
slangasekdpkg is writing everything to the info/$arch/ path currently07:31
slangasekso, not too painful to unwind07:31
* pitti checks his desktop install from yesterday07:32
pittiright, info/ just has dpkg.list and arch/07:32
pittiI take it dpkg.list is a leftover from debootstrap07:33
slangasekanyway, sleep for me07:33
pittislangasek: thanks for the heads-up, sleep well!07:33
slangasekhere's hoping for smooth testing07:34
slangasekg'night :)07:34
pittislangasek: the live system seems alright, though07:34
pittiGrueMaster: do you know what's happening with the "rebuilding" arm images? what are these waiting for?07:35
GrueMasterA fix.07:36
GrueMasterCurrently we die in oem-config, making the images absolutely useless.07:36
pittiGrueMaster: #727603 ?07:36
GrueMasterNCommander and I are currently debugging, but we wil be hading to bed soon (midnight here).07:36
GrueMasterBug #72746807:37
ubot4Launchpad bug 727468 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "oem-config crashed during install on armel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72746807:37
pittiGrueMaster: that exception rings a bell07:37
GrueMaster727603 doesn't appear to affect preinstalled.07:38
pittithe exception in that log is bug 71122507:38
ubot4Launchpad bug 711225 in python2.7 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "subprocess.Popen() crashed with TypeError in _cleanup(): an integer is required (affects: 3) (heat: 28)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71122507:38
GrueMasterI checked and /var/lib/dpkg/info/armel is a symlink to .07:38
pittiwhoops, sorry, no; ignore me07:38
GrueMasterignored.  :P07:39
Riddellev: for bug 726581 I did use whole disk09:06
ubot4Launchpad bug 726581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "install stops half way through (affects: 3) (dups: 1) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72658109:06
evRiddell: hm, there goes that theory.  Okay, full debug logs would be greatly appreciated then.09:20
Riddellev: running ubiquity with --debug?09:23
ograhmm,  doesnt look like GrueMaster and NCommander made any progress at all on bug 72746809:28
ubot4Launchpad bug 727468 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "oem-config crashed during install on armel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72746809:28
ogranot even a syslog for the --debug run09:28
ograev, any idea about that ?09:28
cjwatsonGrueMaster: what version of debootstrap are you using to build your preinstalled images?09:44
pitticjwatson: good morning09:49
pitticjwatson: I figure we'll need to backport the $arch symlink in debootstrap to lucid?09:49
pittiI heard from smoser that he builds the ec2 images on lucid09:50
evogra: very strange. I can't see any reason it would be failing in that way, short of something else grabbing hold of debconf.  Any chance I could see a ps auxf from such an oem-config install attempt?09:52
cjwatsonso I can trivially (and with minimum bureaucracy) shove it into {lucid,maverick}-backports09:52
evwhen it fails, that is09:53
mvoev: the new upgade-install feature is really excellent, I'm currently using it for a test-upgrade09:53
cjwatsonperhaps that's the easiest approach09:53
evmvo: I hope you caught the backups warning ;)09:53
mvoev: backups, *pff*09:53
* mvo pats bzr push09:53
evmvo: you don't know where I live, right?09:54
cjwatsonone thing is that the new debootstrap breaks old base-installer09:54
cjwatsonbut that's probably OK because we don't build installer images from -backports09:54
mvoev: no, I don't - but I know where you work ;)09:54
cjwatsonpitti: I dunno, would you prefer that, or a selective backport to -proposed?09:54
ogracjwatson, whatever is installed on the livefs builders09:54
cjwatsonogra: the actual livefs is built inside a whatever-suite-you're-building chroot09:55
ograi would expect that to be recent natty09:55
cjwatsonso hopefully that's current, I forget exactly how often it's upgraded though09:55
pitticjwatson: I'm fine with an SRU; however, I think we need to have a separate natty script then, instead of changing it all the way back into gutsy09:55
cjwatsonpitti: why?  it's a harmless change for older releases09:55
cjwatsonI'm trying to avoid creating new scripts09:56
pittiI'm just concerned that the same programs which started failing with the new symlink might also trip over the extra "subdir" (link)09:57
pittistuff that iterates over all files might find an unexpected symlink, or might find files twice, etc.09:57
cjwatsonhm, not that I've seen, but OK - in that case, I'd rather go with -backports for now09:57
cjwatsonrather than more divergent code changes09:57
Riddellev: bug 72769010:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 727690 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "install requests change of CD (dup-of: 726581)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72769010:14
ubot4Launchpad bug 726581 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "install stops half way through (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 26)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72658110:14
evthanks a bunch10:15
ograev, all i can see is a denconf-communicate -fnoninteractive ubiquity in ps10:42
ogranothing special beyond that10:43
evogra: could you please attach the full listing to the bug?10:43
ografrom the ps ?10:43
ograthe prob is that it doesnt hang actually it dies, i'm not sure i'm fast enough to capture the exact moment10:44
ograev, anything special you see there ?10:49
evindeed not10:51
* ogra is running out of ideas how to debug that10:52
* ogra will tyr ps in a loop10:57
davmor2cjwatson, pitti:  is the top bar on install meant to be so small?  it looks to be about 4 px11:02
pittidavmor2: the panel you mean? no, should be some 30 pixel, the usual panel size11:03
davmor2pitti: is it a known bug?  and yes panel was the word I couldn't remember11:04
pittinot to me, anyway; I think you should report it11:04
davmor2pitti: will do11:04
cjwatsondavmor2: ev deals with that stuff nowadays11:06
davmor2cjwatson: cool thanks11:07
davmor2ev: it's all your fault cjwatson said so ;)11:08
evbug please11:08
davmor2ev: doing it now I have photos11:08
davmor2ev: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/72772611:25
ubot4Launchpad bug 727726 in gnome-panel (Ubuntu) "gnome panel is about 4px instead of 30 on install (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]11:25
davmor2only happens durring install panel is right size post install11:25
seb128it's an ubiquity bug11:27
seb128the "install" mode bar is not gnome-panel11:27
seb128it's a custom ubiquity thing11:28
davmor2seb128: My bag11:30
ograev, attached three new files to the bug, i see a defunct debconf process while it dies, but i dont expect that to be much more informative11:31
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* ogra wonders if anyone else succeded doing an oem install on non armel11:35
ogradavmor2, i see the small panel too on armel oem installations11:49
ograi think GrueMaster filed a bug for it11:50
davmor2ev: Yay I'm not the only one either is appears ^11:50
ogradavmor2, is that oem-config or plain ubiquity11:51
* ogra is desparate12:03
ogracjwatson, so how does some basic installer knowledge help me, debconf dies silently underneath the installer, setting DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer doesnt reveal any additional info beyond using --debug for oem-config13:11
ograps only shows a defunct debconf process when dieing13:11
ograi'm really out of ideas how to debug that and would be happy for any kind of suggestion13:12
ogra(i even upgraded to the most recent ubiquity and dpkg versions in my preinstalled image without any results)13:12
ograof what ? the debconf-communicate subprocess call ?13:16
ograwhat i see is that debconf-communicate survives but the backend is gone13:19
cjwatsonof everything13:20
cjwatsonstrace -f -o /root/oem-config.trace -s 1024 oem-config, or similar13:20
cjwatsonmodify whatever starts it13:20
ograah, from the upstart job  then13:20
* ogra will try that, thanks !13:20
cjwatsonI think I'd recommend a bit lower than that, otherwise you'll end up stracing X13:20
ograoh, indeed13:21
cjwatsonoem-config-wrapper should do13:21
ograyep, just inspecting13:22
ograthe fun is that all the other debconf communication just works, its so weird to have it die later then13:23
jibelI have a different issue with oem on Ubuntu desktop - bug 72778313:26
ubot4Launchpad bug 727783 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "oem-config is not installed after initial system installation, and the user can't proceed with the step 'prepare for shipping' (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72778313:26
jibel727783 is confirmed by pedro on i386 as well13:54
jibelev, ^13:54
ograev, cjwatson, strace info attached to the bug, i see a sigpipe even before the traceback kicks in there .... during some access to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ files14:09
ogra2274  unlink("/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00AllowUnauthenticated") = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)14:10
ogra2274  write(1, "PROGRESS STOP\n", 14)   = -1 EPIPE (Broken pipe)14:10
ogra2274  --- SIGPIPE (Broken pipe) @ 0 (0) ---14:10
ograbut the output doesnt seem to be completely in order, its very hard to read14:11
jibelskaet_, OEM install is broken on desktop images14:12
ograand on preinstalled images14:13
cjwatsonogra: we need to find out what happened to the other end of that pipe14:14
ogracjwatson, yeah, thats what i'm trying since yesterady :)14:14
mterryHeyo!  Are images for A3 done?14:14
* cjwatson looks at the trace14:14
* ogra knows what he is looking for, just not how to get it 14:14
pittimterry: we might rebuild the armel ones (if we get a fix in time), but so far the others look okay14:15
mterryI have a patch for a bad crasher in unity if you have a11y turned on, but not sure whether it would make it or should make it14:15
ograi made an excerpt, the fully syslog is 65M14:15
mterrypitti, ok, so no reason to respin just for this probs14:15
pittimterry: upload away, but I don't think we'll respin; it's not an install failure, people can upgrade afterwards14:15
* cjwatson is not interested in strace excerpts14:15
mterrypitti, agreed14:16
* pitti needs to disappear for supermarket, bbl14:16
ograi thought i should filter by PID14:16
cjwatsonthat's counterproductive - the thing we need to find out is what's happening to processes *other* than plugininstall.py14:16
ograoh, k14:16
cjwatsonthe other end of the pipe is pid 72814:20
cjwatsonwhich was killed by SIGSEGV a bit further up14:20
cjwatsonafter a huge pile of cacheflush calls14:21
cjwatsonit is not clear to me exactly what it's doing, apart from talking to X14:25
cjwatsonFWIW that's the top-level oem-config process14:26
cjwatsonit might be useful to attach gdb to the top oem-config process from a separate terminal before it segfaults, and hopefully get a stack trace14:26
cjwatsonfailing that, 'ulimit -c unlimited' before starting it so that you get a core dump14:26
ograoh my ...14:29
ograoh, i just noticed i have a crash report from ubiquity-dm in /var/crash14:56
ogra(unlikely thats helpful, but i'll attach it to the bug anyway)14:56
ograhmpf, trying to produce a core file is pretty unsuccessfull here15:54
ograit dies but moves on removing ubiquity and doesnt produce a core at all15:55
* ogra has to redo the image now ubiquity is gone ... sigh15:58
GrueMasterInteresting.  I am able to get oem-config running on x86 after some image manipulation, but I am not able to reproduce the crash seen on armel.16:09
dokopitti: is there a reason removing the milestone for 705689?16:21
pittidoko: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/705689/comments/3216:22
ubot4Launchpad bug 705689 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu Natty) (and 6 other projects) "Qt applications crash with segfault error on armel when Qt is built with gcc 4.5 on natty (affects: 2) (heat: 30)" [High,Invalid]16:22
dokopitti: ScottK seems to disagree16:22
cjwatsonpitti: it seems like it should be milestoned somewhere though16:22
cjwatsonif it's blocking KDE using gcc-4.5 ...16:23
ScottKpitti: I agree it's not an Alpha 3 blocker, but I don't think we want to release Natty with Qt/KDE built on GCC 4.4, so it should be milestoned somewhere.16:24
ScottKAlthough lack of it now means we'll have to build with 4.4 when we upload KDE
ScottKdoko: When in March is it due out?16:25
dokolinaro releases are always the 2nd Tue of the month16:25
dokoScottK: is there a reason to use 4.4 on all archs?16:26
ScottKdoko: No.  Just on armel.16:26
pittiwell, *shrug*, feel free to add beta-1, if you prefer16:28
pittibut it'd be fine to fix after beta-1 as well from my POV16:28
pittiit's still a release critical bug for natty, after all16:28
ScottKpitti: The problem is we'll have to rebuild a large number of packages on arm after it's fixed to get them built with gcc4.5.  That's not something we want to do at the last moment.16:29
pittiScottK: so, beta-1 then?16:29
ScottKI'll mark it.  Hopefully it's resolved next week anyway.16:29
pittinice; my primary objective was to clean up the alpha-3 blocker list; this one isn't one16:30
ScottKAgreed.  It just would have made the next week a lot easier if we'd gotten it.16:30
Davieysmoser Is having a hard time at the moment testing potential cloud image candidates for A3, as some of the regional AWS hosted mirrors seem broken.  Canonical IS who maintains the mirrors has an RT ticket open.16:50
smoserwell, that will cause some tests to fail. we still dont have all images published yet. and IS is working on it, the cause has been elusive before.16:51
smoseri expect that ~ 3:30 US/Eastern I will have all images published.  I've one so far and it seems fine.16:52
cjwatsonbug 727783 is another "can I just shoot myself now" bug16:56
ubot4Launchpad bug 727783 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "oem-config is not installed after initial system installation, and the user can't proceed with the step 'prepare for shipping' (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72778316:56
cjwatsonthe interaction with apt-cdrom has got confused *again*16:56
cjwatsonI'll see what I can do but can't make any promises about timescales, since I have to go out shortly16:56
=== jj-afk is now known as jjohansen
skaet_cjwatson,  understood.   Anyone else able to look into it?16:58
cjwatsonev if he has time but I don't know if he does, we're on the same timezone17:01
cjwatsonI'm attempting to strace it now17:01
cjwatsonhmm, this 1GB strace file may not be uploadable to a bug ...17:15
cjwatsonmight have a fix, testing now17:38
* skaet_ keeping fingers crossed.17:48
* ogra gave up on crossing fingers ... makes typing so hard 17:48
cjwatsonI think bug 723357 has a similar cause, but would rather try to limit the amount of stuff I upload for a317:49
ubot4Launchpad bug 723357 in casper (Ubuntu) "ISO filesystem not mounted properly on Live USB disks (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72335717:49
skaet_grr ??  hmm, should I be worried?18:07
cjwatsonfirst approach didn't work18:07
charlie-tcaskaet_: I would like to release note the bug 7123418:11
ubot4Launchpad bug 71234 in eog (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Eye of GNOME (eog) grabs keyboard when in full-screen. (heat: 2)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7123418:11
charlie-tcavalid workaround is to do a full shutdown after first login.18:11
charlie-tcaThen run update-manager18:11
skaet_charlie-tca,  thanks for flagging.   ok will add now.18:13
charlie-tcaThank you18:13
skaet_charlie-tca is bug 71234 the right bug number??    looks pretty stale/invalid.18:38
ubot4Launchpad bug 71234 in eog (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Eye of GNOME (eog) grabs keyboard when in full-screen. (heat: 2)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7123418:38
charlie-tcaI seem to have missed that when I copied it18:44
charlie-tcathe right one is bug 71234618:44
ubot4Launchpad bug 712346 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager crashed with TypeError in _get_last_apt_get_update_text(): unsupported operand type(s) for /: 'NoneType' and 'int' (affects: 16) (dups: 3) (heat: 202)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71234618:44
charlie-tcaI guess the 6 on the end matters18:44
skaet_heh,  thanks charlie-tca that makes more sense now ;)18:47
charlie-tcathanks for catching that mistake18:48
dokoogra: is openjdk on any arm image?19:06
ogradoko, not that i can think of, no19:06
ograiirc it went away with OO.o19:07
* ogra checks manifest19:07
ogradoko, confirmed, not on the images19:09
GrueMasterJust tested http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20110301/natty-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap4.img.gz and oem-config doesn't even start.  Boots straight into kdm.  Looking over boot logs now, but may be a race condition with unity.19:13
GrueMasterI was trying it as a debug measure for our netbook images.19:13
mvothanks charlie-tca I look into the u-m crash tomorrow19:22
ogracjwatson, ha !19:23
ogracjwatson, looks like uninstalling the slideshow fixes the armel bug (seems to be webkit related)19:24
charlie-tcaNo problem, mvo19:25
ograskaet_, ^^^19:26
ograskaet_, NCommander is preparing a hack in livecd-rootfs that removes the slideshow from arm builds19:27
ograwe will need to get that into the archive and need a respin then19:27
skaet_ogra, heh, that was going to be my next question... are we getting updates for new images.19:27
rsalvetiskaet_: ogra: yup, was able to install it successfully after removing this package19:28
rsalvetiseems the bug is inside webkit19:28
ograoh my19:28
NCommanderogra: skaet_ someone will have to smack the livecd builders to pull from the archive19:28
ograour error reporting in ubiquity needs to become better19:28
ograit should have told us "hey webkit is broken" in the first place :P19:29
ograNCommander, they do that automatically since maverick19:29
ograonly BuildLiveCD isnt autosynced afaik19:29
NCommanderoh, aweseome19:29
rsalvetiogra: hard to say that when python is crashing with sigsegv19:30
ograheh, indeed19:30
ograi wasnt serious19:30
skaet_rsalveti,  thanks.  :)19:30
ograi'm just so happy after two days of debugging19:30
ograthat was really painful19:31
rsalvetifor sure it was, but cool, at least I learned more about oem-config :-)19:31
NCommanderogra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/574629/ - how's that for sanity?19:33
pittiogra: I recently fixed webkit on amd64, it tried to allocate 1 GB of RAM; but on arm it should only try 16 MB, which doesn't sound too much19:33
pittiogra: I'm curious, how is the slideshow involved in arm preinstalled builds at all19:34
NCommanderpitti: used as part of oem-config19:34
pittiah, of course19:34
rsalvetipitti: once python tries to use the webkit bindings, it crashes with sigsegv19:35
pittiit would be interesting if /usr/lib/webkitgtk-1.0-0/libexec/GtkLauncher crashes by itself on an arm system19:35
rsalvetiand then oem-config is gone19:35
pittiif so, that'd be a lot easier to debug19:35
rsalvetipitti: nops, working fine19:36
rsalveticould be related with the python bindings19:36
rsalvetiooops, too soon to tell, got a sigsegv19:36
pittirsalveti: with a particular web page? or just at startup?19:37
rsalvetipitti: it loads google, and then after some seconds it crashes19:37
pittirsalveti: do you get an apport .crash?19:37
NCommanderrsalveti: is it the python bindings or webkit in general?19:37
rsalvetiwebkit in general19:37
pitti/usr/lib/webkitgtk-1.0-0/libexec/GtkLauncher is webkit itself19:37
NCommanderright :-)19:38
rsalvetipitti: will check19:38
pittirsalveti: thanks; perhaps it can be replicated in xvfb on a porter box or so19:38
rsalvetiargh, gdb kills the board when running with webkit19:38
rsalvetiwebkit is huge19:38
rsalvetipitti: yup, got the crash file19:39
ograpitti, bug 72746819:39
ubot4Launchpad bug 727468 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "oem-config crashed during install on armel (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72746819:39
NCommanderogra: test spin going with hack to remove slideshow19:41
ograNCommander, packagename is wrong19:41
rsalvetiogra: should I open a new bug for this webkit issue? or just link the oem-config with webkit?19:41
rsalvetiargh, corrupted stack19:42
rsalvetineed to install webkit dbg symbols, but first need space for it :-)19:42
ograNCommander, and you should actually put your hack *after* the code that installs LIVELIST ;)19:42
ograhelps a lot to remove somethig *after* it was installed ;)19:43
rsalvetihehe :-)19:43
ograrsalveti, i just changed the title of the bug ... we need other tasks and close the ubiquity one19:43
ograi think it helps that we have the debug data on it already19:43
ograeven though if it might only show fallout19:44
pittirsalveti: right, we don't have retracers for armel ATM :/19:44
ograpitti, on NCommander's todo, but he was busy fixing mono19:44
pittirsalveti: but if you can salvage the .crash file anyway, we might be able to fake it on the porter boxes19:44
ograwe might have them back right on release day ;)19:44
rsalvetipitti: np, can install the dbg symbols and try to get a proper trace19:45
pittiwe can do that the plain old way with the core dump and installing -dbg in the porter box dchroots19:45
pittirsalveti: even better :)19:45
pittiogra: just to triple-check is removing ubiquity-slideshow ok? on amd64 our workaround was to remove ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu19:45
ograpitti, thats what i meant above19:46
pittiubiquity-slideshow is purely virtual usually19:46
ogra<ogra> NCommander, packagename is wrong19:46
pittiah, ok19:46
ograwell, michael didnt get that either i think19:46
ograNCommander, ^^^^19:46
ograNCommander, ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu is the package19:46
ograNCommander, and move it down a bit ... right above "# remove our diversions" i'd say19:47
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NCommanderogra_: yeah, saw that mistake myself, replacedit with ubiquity-slideshow-*, although I'm happy with its position as its just below where we do the last package manipulation on the image19:57
smoserskaet_, http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110302.2/published-ec2-daily.txt has the ec2 images data to populate tracker19:58
ogra_NCommander, not really19:58
smoseri know that cjwatson and slangasek have done that before, not sure if you have.19:58
ogra_NCommander, chroot $ROOT apt-get -y --purge install $LIVELIST </dev/null19:58
ogra_NCommander, that line actually installs the slideshow19:58
ogra_NCommander, your hack needs to be below it19:59
skaet_smoser,  ok,  will go in and populate it.19:59
ogra_NCommander, thats why the checkpoint says "Installing live packages" ;)19:59
pittiskaet_: need anythign from me tonight still?20:00
pittiogra_: or you? (I think you can retrigger the armels yourself, right?)20:00
ogra_i can do it myself, yeah20:00
ogra_but would like to finish my day too at some point20:00
* pitti hugs ogra_, great to see this working at last20:00
ogra_but NCommander can do that too20:00
slangasekskaet_: you have the post-amis-to-iso-tracker script for this, right?20:01
skaet_pitti, can you take a pass through the TechOverview?20:01
pittiogra_: I can also set up a trigger to start building them once a fixed livefs-build package is published for arm20:01
skaet_slangasek, its in the iso build loads, but if that doesn't work, I'll let you know.20:01
ogra_pitti, nah, NCommander and i can take care20:01
slangasekskaet_: hmm, iso build loads?20:02
skaet_iso tracker,  sorry.20:02
slangasekskaet_: doing this by hand is *verry* tedious and error-prone if you want to be able to accurately track the individual AMIs on the iso tracker, so I hope you're using the script :)20:02
skaet_slangasek,  nope what I was trying didn't work.  so I'm missing something.20:03
NCommanderogra_: gah, hoops20:03
skaet_slangasek, wasn't using the script, so time for a bit of training for me I guess. ;)20:03
slangasekskaet_: lp:~ubuntu-archive/ubuntu-archive-tools/trunk/; script called 'post-amis-to-iso-tracker.py'; takes smoser's linked file as input20:04
slangasekthough fwiw I've always snarfed that file via ssh instead of http, since the http connection provides no assurance of data integrity... I'd hate to accidentally post a link to an OpenSuSE AMI to the tracker20:04
skaet_slangasek,  ok, trying.20:05
pittiskaet_: TechOverview> for content? or also for language already?20:07
skaet_pitti,  both please ;)20:08
pittiskaet_: (still missing quite a lot, so I propose to leave the language fine-tuning for tomorrow)20:08
skaet_sure,  just get me some contents, and I'll do more scrubs on it later.20:08
pittiskaet_: not too much new contents, but some clarifications and language fixes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview?action=diff&rev2=102&rev1=10120:24
skaet_thanks pitti.    Glad its had your eyes over it.    When you get in tomorrow,  take a look through the bugs too.  They'll be being added today.20:25
skaet_have a nice evening.20:25
pittiskaet_: yup20:25
pittiskaet_: almost -- just saw the new load of kernels coming in..20:25
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pittigood night21:19
* slangasek waves. 'night, pitti!21:21
skaet_good night pitti21:22
highvoltagenight pitti21:23
skaet_smoser, can you confirm the images are available now?21:23
smoseryeah, tests are being run.21:23
smoserdid someone tell you they weren't available ?21:23
smoserbecause for a small point, they were not. but they're back.21:24
skaet_just confirming that the script actually did what it should have.  :)21:26
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smoserskaet_, i have the tets running now, i'll fill in the results sometime tonight.  they're looking fine.22:14
smoserand i've got the "pre-publish" for alpha3 running on those images. so we'll be all set tomorrow.22:14
skaet_smoser,  good to know. :)22:16
skaet_thanks for the update.22:17
jibelskaet_, bug 728088 iSCSI test in server amd6423:01
ubot4Launchpad bug 728088 in debian-installer (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "iscsi root (amd64) with or without auth fails to boot (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72808823:01
skaet_thanks jibel,  adding it to the hot list23:01
skaet_smoser, is anyone around from the server team who can look at this new one?  ^  or do we need to wait for UK to come online?   At this stage, we'll probably release with it, and document.23:03
charlie-tcaskaet_: only change I see for release notes is to add gmusicbrowser replaces exaile in xubuntu23:05
GrueMasterskaet_: Ok, we have an update to livecd-rootfs to remove ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu from the armel images.  This should at least get us a working image for A3.23:30
GrueMasterI have been testing with this workaroung and haven't seen any other gotchas.23:30
cjwatsoniscsi> for the record I have a feeling that we need to update open-iscsi to a new upstream version to match kernelspace.  probably not something that can be done in a day.23:33
skaet_cjwatson,  ack.   we'll go with what we have at this point.23:53
skaet_GrueMaster,  sounds good.   What is the upload status?23:55
skaet_charlie-tca, please go ahead and add/make changes for Xubuntu overview (and any other signifcant bugs you want to highlight)23:56
GrueMasterUploaded livecd-rootfs, waiting to be published.  Once it gets published, someone can kick image rebuild.23:56
GrueMasterOnce the images are there, I can test them and get the data in to the tracker.23:57
skaet_Gruemaster,  sounds good.23:58
NCommanderskaet_: saw that GrueMaster updated you. Publisher should start running in 5 minutes. once its done, i'll kick the image build and publish a new armel+omap4 image23:59

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