[00:12] <holstein> http://holstein.bandcamp.com/
[04:16] <jack_> So what do you guys think about the Canonical/Banshee thing?
[04:31] <holstein> pretty strange
[04:31] <holstein> has it been clarified yet?
[04:31] <holstein> jack_: ^
[04:31] <jack_> http://www.vuntz.net/journal/post/2011/02/28/Canonical,-you-re-breaking-my-heart
[04:32] <jack_> mark shuttleworth put an update on his blog
[04:32] <jack_> they gave banshee a choice whether to disable the plugin or give 75% of profits to Canonincal, they choose to disable, so they're leaving it enabled and taking 75%
[04:33] <holstein> too bad for the gnome project
[04:34] <holstein> i mean, its hard not to see it as a kick in the pants
[04:34] <holstein> as the transition to unity happens
[04:35] <holstein> AND, *so* many people use the amazon store
[04:36] <holstein> i mean, i guess they dont have to give any of the bread to banshee/gnome
[04:36] <holstein> so whatever
[04:36] <holstein> jack_: what do you think?
[04:37] <jack_> seems like they're being strongarmed into doing what canonical wants. that sucks and goes against the open source way in my opinon.
[04:37] <jack_> if you're going to go against the developers of the applications, you might as well just fork the project
[04:38] <holstein> yeah, fork it, and bring it in under whatever terms you want
[04:47] <_marx_> interesting
[04:56] <_marx_> are novell or redhat sponsored distros having this issue?
[04:56] <holstein> i dont think they have commercial interests
[04:56] <holstein> quite like this
[04:57] <_marx_> my point
[04:58] <_marx_> somebody is going to get the money
[05:00] <_marx_> my point, right novell and redhat _are publically traded companies
[05:00] <_marx_> enterprise focus
[05:02] <_marx_> canonical with ubuntu remains a wildcard in the enterprise market
[05:02] <holstein> its new
[05:02] <holstein> we'll see
[05:03] <holstein> i mean, something is going to be different
[05:11] <_marx_> normally i'm testing by now but test box has become main box ;)
[05:18] <jack_> heh
[05:18] <jack_> im compiling gnome-shell from source from the nightly
[05:18] <jack_> it looks pretty sweet
[05:28] <_marx_> well you have corporate hardware
[05:29]  * _marx_ more yardsale specials
[12:48] <jack_> im not running on corporate hardawre atm heh
[23:35] <_marx_> who's supposed to chair tonight?
[23:36]  * _marx_ has a new usb wireless device to try out
[23:57] <_marx_> akgraner: you about?
[23:58] <akgraner> I am
[23:58] <_marx_> cool
[23:58] <akgraner> dang is it time already wow
[23:58] <_marx_> i'm not alone
[23:58] <_marx_> who's to chair?
[23:59] <akgraner> hmmm good question where is internalkernel?
[23:59] <akgraner> hey holstein do you know who is chair...don't we have a list on the wiki page?
[23:59] <_marx_> i couldn't find that wiki page