superflyhi nuvo07:07
Kilosmorning superfly and all of ya thats online07:25
Kilosi have my own repo of karmic at /media/2G/mav-update. how do i tell this new maverick install to look there for the updates please?07:31
Kilosnot karmic sorry. maverick07:32
Kilosi cant get cp /media/2G/mav-update to copy everything to /var/cache/apt/archives07:33
Kiloslast try was from libnautilus and this one is from libparted. everything before that doesnt copy07:34
Kilosi cant do sudo apt-get upgrade online i dont have bandwidth to spare07:37
Kilosor is there a way i can point apt-get upgrade to the flash drive07:38
Kilosthe command i use to cp is sudo cp -r /media/2G/mav-update/* /var/cache/apt/archives but it copies nothing before libp...07:43
Kilosis this a maverick thing? the same command worked kiff with karmic07:46
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inetproKilos: post the output of the following on pastebin: ls -la /media/2G/mav-update /var/cache/apt/archives08:07
Kilosty inetpro  good morning08:10
Kilosroot the boss of everything08:11
inetprohmm... that didn't help much08:13
inetprowould be different with ls -la /media/2G/mav-update/* /var/cache/apt/archives/*08:13
Kilosok sec08:14
inetprohang on08:14
inetprothat list is way to long 08:14
inetprols -ld /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/08:15
superflyI wonder if the number of packages is just too much for cp ?08:15
superflyremember that * is expanded by bash08:15
inetprosuperfly: right08:15
superflymaybe use xargs or something08:15
inetproor rather stick to rsync08:15
Kilosthats only three lines must i paste it still?08:19
inetproKilos: nee man08:20
Kiloshehe die maverick maak my moeg08:21
Kilosen dis so lekker08:21
inetproKilos: ek dink nie jou probleem lĂȘ by maverick nie08:21
inetproKilos: as superfly mentioned, you have to many files in the folder08:22
Kilosthose commands work perfect with karmic can do a clean install and upgrade with no downloading at all08:22
Kilosits 913m08:23
inetproKilos: find /media/2G/mav-update/ -type f | wc -l08:23
Kilosbut the command to to flash worked fine08:23
Kilossays 110908:24
OwkkuriI know it's a bit of a hack, but what about doing the copy incrementally?08:24
Owkkurisay a* b* c* etc08:25
inetproin fact the number of files are not even necessarily the only problem but even the combined length of file names08:25
Kiloscan i rsync from the flash to /var/cache/apt/archives08:25
inetproKilos: rsync /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/08:26
Kilosok i try that ty08:26
Kilosno * after mav-update/08:27
Kilosskipping directory .08:28
Kilosforgot sudo08:28
inetproKilos: you need to understand what * means08:28
Kilosi try again08:28
Kilosmiles@P4:~$ sudo rsync /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/08:30
inetproKilos: * is just a shortcut for typing cp SourceDir/file1 SourceDir/file2/ SourceDir/filen DestinationDir/08:30
Kilosskipping directory .08:30
Kilosoh not all files and folders08:31
Kilosis there a all files and folders command on linux08:31
inetproKilos: yes all files in the specified folder but it's like typing out every single file on one line08:32
inetprothe shell does the expansion for you before it start copying08:32
Kilosmiles@P4:~$ sudo rsync /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/08:32
Kilosskipping directory .08:33
Kiloswe forgot the -av08:34
Kilosi had to get my notes08:34
Kilosi see if that helps08:35
Kilosthere we go its doing something08:36
inetproKilos: you can leave -v unless you want to see everything while it's happening08:36
Kiloswill take 15 mins or so08:36
* zerlgi waves08:36
Kilosbetter to see08:36
Kiloshi zerlgi 08:36
inetproKilos: sometimes to much to see08:36
inetproerrors is what you need to see08:36
Kilosits fine it is now copying everything08:37
Kiloshow do you just see errors and not everything 08:37
inetproKilos: leave -v out of it08:39
inetprojust -a08:39
inetproKilos: read the man page... man rsync08:39
Kiloshehe. i did all of the upgrading on my 20g for maverick with gdebi one file at a time08:40
Kilostook a week08:40
inetproKilos: -a is actually -rlptgoD08:40
Kiloslotsa times had to go find the dependanies first then come back08:40
Kilos-rlptgoD ?08:41
inetproKilos: man rsync08:41
Kilosoh ty will get there once stuff installed08:41
Kilosstill just the basic installation here08:42
Kilosty very much guys08:42
inetproKilos: man pages are installed on the basic installation08:42
inetproyou can start another session and read while it's copying08:43
Kilosdidnt think of rsync. cp worked too well on karmic08:43
Kiloswill do ty08:43
inetproKilos: cp would also have worked without the *08:44
Kiloseish now you tell me08:44
Kilosmaybe i stick to rsync in the future08:45
inetproKilos: let me rephrase08:46
inetproKilos: cp could also have worked without the * and with a different approach08:46
* inetpro loves rsync08:47
Kilosyeah i gonna stay with it now08:47
inetproMaaz: coffee on08:47
* Maaz washes some mugs08:47
Kilosjust would be nice to understand why the command works with karmic but not maverick08:48
KilosMaaz, coffee please08:48
MaazKilos: Yessir08:48
KilosMaaz, with cremora08:49
MaazAh! At last someone with taste08:49
KilosMaaz, and milk08:49
MaazNow you're talking08:49
KilosMaaz, and sugar08:49
MaazDo something yourself Kilos08:49
inetproKilos: you number of files may just have increased?08:49
Kilosi will stick with rsync in the future i think08:50
Kilosty very much inetpro 08:50
Kilosbeen a long hard expensive month08:50
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!08:51
inetproMaaz: thanks08:52
Maazinetpro: Okay :-)08:52
KilosMaaz, dankie baie08:52
MaazGeniet jou koppie boeretroos Kilos08:52
inetproKilos: could also be that some environment variables have changed between karmic and maverick08:53
Kilosyeah 958m now08:53
Kilosbut all there08:53
Kilosi am so happy08:53
Kilosgracias amigo08:54
Kilosnow i can do a sudo apt-get upgrade offline08:54
Kilosinetpro, if i add --delete at the end will it then remove the old files it always want to update08:56
Kilosthe update manager always wants to update with old linux headers etc08:58
Kiloslike 130m of old stuff08:58
inetproKilos: --delete in your case will delete all files and folders that are in /media/2G/mav-update/ but not in /var/cache/apt/archives/08:59
inetproKilos: not always a good idea09:01
Kilosgoodness me that no good09:01
inetproKilos: especially if you have updated after the archive was copied09:01
Kilosi leave apt-get to sort it out then09:01
inetproKilos: yep09:02
Kilosapt-get autoremove09:02
Kilosdankie baie swaar09:02
inetproKilos: np09:02
Kilossee you all later. i go offline to upgrade09:03
inetproKilos: why go offline?09:03
Kilosi am scared it steals even 10m data09:04
inetprohmm... it should ask09:04
Kilosgotta stretch 250m as far as possible09:04
Kilosi not gonna take the chance it doesn't ask09:05
Kiloslater then . have a good day and thanks alot09:05
inetproKilos: bye09:06
* drubin hands charlvn some interwebs11:24
afrodeityOoo decided to not have page sliders, oh bother13:58
afrodeitymission critical application13:59
afrodeitynearly kicked my monitor screen in because of combo of mouse gestures, and stupid popups interfering in an editing process14:00
afrodeityperson who invented mouse gestures and predictive text should be shot14:01
afrodeitymaaz: google evil programming14:07
Maazafrodeity: "Most Evil Programming Language? - WebDeveloper.com" http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=210832 :: "C++ is EVIL, it's the computer language of SATAN ! ! !" http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t286485-c-is-evil-its-the-computer-language-of-satan.html :: "Program optimization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_optimization :: "language agnostic - Evil programming practices - St14:07
afrodeitymeanwhile my google doc is shredding a clean text about to go to print, and I getting 'trying to reach google.com" message, aaargh14:09
afrodeitykilos: tell marcog that google.com and google docs needs to increase the buffer for large documents14:10
afrodeityoops that should be directed at maaz14:11
afrodeitymaaz: tell marcog that google.com and google docs needs to increase the buffer for large documents14:11
Maazafrodeity: Sure, I'll tell marcog on freenode14:11
queerymazz coffee on14:15
queerymaaz coffee on14:16
* Maaz puts the kettle on14:16
MaazCoffee's ready for queery!14:20
queeryMaaz thanx14:21
Maazqueery: Sorry...14:21
queeryMaaz thank you14:21
Maazqueery: No problem14:21
queery quick reminder: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/738/detail/15:00
KilosMaaz, coffee on15:30
* Maaz flips the salt-timer15:30
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!15:34
KilosMaaz, thank you15:34
MaazKilos: No problem15:34
fwolffFor those interested in contributing to the upcoming GNOME 3:  http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/content/vertaalmaraton-vir-gnome-315:50
fwolffSummary in English: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/translatethon-gnome-315:50
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* Symmetria starts throwing some high packet per second bandwidth tests around18:21
Symmetria  30 second output rate 4606321000 bits/sec, 416762 packets/sec18:21
OwkkuriSymmetria: is that 4.6gbps?20:17

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