[07:04] mornings [07:07] hi nuvo [07:25] morning superfly and all of ya thats online [07:31] i have my own repo of karmic at /media/2G/mav-update. how do i tell this new maverick install to look there for the updates please? [07:32] not karmic sorry. maverick [07:33] i cant get cp /media/2G/mav-update to copy everything to /var/cache/apt/archives [07:34] last try was from libnautilus and this one is from libparted. everything before that doesnt copy [07:37] i cant do sudo apt-get upgrade online i dont have bandwidth to spare [07:38] or is there a way i can point apt-get upgrade to the flash drive [07:43] the command i use to cp is sudo cp -r /media/2G/mav-update/* /var/cache/apt/archives but it copies nothing before libp... [07:46] is this a maverick thing? the same command worked kiff with karmic === CrummyGummy_ is now known as CrummyGummy [08:07] Kilos: post the output of the following on pastebin: ls -la /media/2G/mav-update /var/cache/apt/archives [08:10] ty inetpro good morning [08:11] http://slexy.org/view/s21l6qwzMy [08:11] root the boss of everything [08:13] hmm... that didn't help much [08:13] would be different with ls -la /media/2G/mav-update/* /var/cache/apt/archives/* [08:14] ok sec [08:14] hang on [08:14] that list is way to long [08:14] pointless [08:15] ls -ld /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ [08:15] I wonder if the number of packages is just too much for cp ? [08:15] remember that * is expanded by bash [08:15] superfly: right [08:15] maybe use xargs or something [08:15] or rather stick to rsync [08:16] http://slexy.org/view/s20WwEwtKa [08:16] oops [08:19] thats only three lines must i paste it still? [08:19] http://slexy.org/view/s21uLECPLF [08:20] Kilos: nee man [08:20] :-) [08:21] hehe die maverick maak my moeg [08:21] en dis so lekker [08:21] Kilos: ek dink nie jou probleem lĂȘ by maverick nie [08:22] Kilos: as superfly mentioned, you have to many files in the folder [08:22] those commands work perfect with karmic can do a clean install and upgrade with no downloading at all [08:23] its 913m [08:23] Kilos: find /media/2G/mav-update/ -type f | wc -l [08:23] but the command to to flash worked fine [08:24] says 1109 [08:24] I know it's a bit of a hack, but what about doing the copy incrementally? [08:25] say a* b* c* etc [08:25] in fact the number of files are not even necessarily the only problem but even the combined length of file names [08:25] can i rsync from the flash to /var/cache/apt/archives [08:26] Kilos: rsync /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ [08:26] ok i try that ty [08:27] no * after mav-update/ [08:28] skipping directory . [08:28] eish [08:28] forgot sudo [08:28] Kilos: you need to understand what * means [08:28] i try again [08:28] oh [08:30] miles@P4:~$ sudo rsync /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ [08:30] Kilos: * is just a shortcut for typing cp SourceDir/file1 SourceDir/file2/ SourceDir/filen DestinationDir/ [08:30] skipping directory . [08:30] eish [08:31] oh not all files and folders [08:31] is there a all files and folders command on linux [08:32] Kilos: yes all files in the specified folder but it's like typing out every single file on one line [08:32] ok [08:32] the shell does the expansion for you before it start copying [08:32] miles@P4:~$ sudo rsync /media/2G/mav-update/ /var/cache/apt/archives/ [08:33] skipping directory . [08:33] why? [08:33] hmm... [08:34] we forgot the -av [08:34] i had to get my notes [08:34] hehe [08:35] i see if that helps [08:36] there we go its doing something [08:36] Kilos: you can leave -v unless you want to see everything while it's happening [08:36] will take 15 mins or so [08:36] * zerlgi waves [08:36] better to see [08:36] hi zerlgi [08:36] Kilos: sometimes to much to see [08:36] errors is what you need to see [08:37] its fine it is now copying everything [08:37] how do you just see errors and not everything [08:39] Kilos: leave -v out of it [08:39] just -a [08:39] Kilos: read the man page... man rsync [08:40] hehe. i did all of the upgrading on my 20g for maverick with gdebi one file at a time [08:40] took a week [08:40] Kilos: -a is actually -rlptgoD [08:40] lotsa times had to go find the dependanies first then come back [08:41] -rlptgoD ? [08:41] Kilos: man rsync [08:41] oh ty will get there once stuff installed [08:42] still just the basic installation here [08:42] ty very much guys [08:42] Kilos: man pages are installed on the basic installation [08:42] ah [08:43] you can start another session and read while it's copying [08:43] didnt think of rsync. cp worked too well on karmic [08:43] will do ty [08:44] Kilos: cp would also have worked without the * [08:44] eish now you tell me [08:44] hehe [08:45] maybe i stick to rsync in the future [08:46] Kilos: let me rephrase [08:46] Kilos: cp could also have worked without the * and with a different approach [08:46] ok [08:47] * inetpro loves rsync [08:47] eish [08:47] yeah i gonna stay with it now [08:47] Maaz: coffee on [08:47] * Maaz washes some mugs [08:48] just would be nice to understand why the command works with karmic but not maverick [08:48] Maaz, coffee please [08:48] Kilos: Yessir [08:49] Maaz, with cremora [08:49] Ah! At last someone with taste [08:49] Maaz, and milk [08:49] Now you're talking [08:49] Maaz, and sugar [08:49] Do something yourself Kilos [08:49] Kilos: you number of files may just have increased? [08:50] i will stick with rsync in the future i think [08:50] ty very much inetpro [08:50] been a long hard expensive month [08:51] Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! [08:52] Maaz: thanks [08:52] inetpro: Okay :-) [08:52] Maaz, dankie baie [08:52] Geniet jou koppie boeretroos Kilos [08:53] Kilos: could also be that some environment variables have changed between karmic and maverick [08:53] yeah 958m now [08:53] but all there [08:53] i am so happy [08:54] gracias amigo [08:54] now i can do a sudo apt-get upgrade offline [08:56] inetpro, if i add --delete at the end will it then remove the old files it always want to update [08:58] the update manager always wants to update with old linux headers etc [08:58] like 130m of old stuff [08:59] Kilos: --delete in your case will delete all files and folders that are in /media/2G/mav-update/ but not in /var/cache/apt/archives/ [09:01] Kilos: not always a good idea [09:01] oh [09:01] goodness me that no good [09:01] Kilos: especially if you have updated after the archive was copied [09:01] i leave apt-get to sort it out then [09:02] Kilos: yep [09:02] apt-get autoremove [09:02] dankie baie swaar [09:02] Kilos: np [09:03] see you all later. i go offline to upgrade [09:03] Kilos: why go offline? [09:04] i am scared it steals even 10m data [09:04] hmm... it should ask [09:04] gotta stretch 250m as far as possible [09:05] ok [09:05] i not gonna take the chance it doesn't ask [09:05] later then . have a good day and thanks alot [09:06] Kilos: bye [11:24] * drubin hands charlvn some interwebs [13:58] Ooo decided to not have page sliders, oh bother [13:59] mission critical application [14:00] nearly kicked my monitor screen in because of combo of mouse gestures, and stupid popups interfering in an editing process [14:01] person who invented mouse gestures and predictive text should be shot [14:07] maaz: google evil programming [14:07] afrodeity: "Most Evil Programming Language? - WebDeveloper.com" http://www.webdeveloper.com/forum/showthread.php?t=210832 :: "C++ is EVIL, it's the computer language of SATAN ! ! !" http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t286485-c-is-evil-its-the-computer-language-of-satan.html :: "Program optimization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_optimization :: "language agnostic - Evil programming practices - St [14:09] meanwhile my google doc is shredding a clean text about to go to print, and I getting 'trying to reach google.com" message, aaargh [14:10] kilos: tell marcog that google.com and google docs needs to increase the buffer for large documents [14:11] oops that should be directed at maaz [14:11] maaz: tell marcog that google.com and google docs needs to increase the buffer for large documents [14:11] afrodeity: Sure, I'll tell marcog on freenode [14:15] mazz coffee on [14:16] maaz coffee on [14:16] * Maaz puts the kettle on [14:20] Coffee's ready for queery! [14:21] Maaz thanx [14:21] queery: Sorry... [14:21] Maaz thank you [14:21] queery: No problem [15:00] quick reminder: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/738/detail/ [15:30] Maaz, coffee on [15:30] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [15:34] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [15:34] Maaz, thank you [15:34] Kilos: No problem [15:50] For those interested in contributing to the upcoming GNOME 3: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/content/vertaalmaraton-vir-gnome-3 [15:50] Summary in English: http://translate.org.za/blogs/friedel/en/content/translatethon-gnome-3 === Kilos- is now known as Kilos [18:21] * Symmetria starts throwing some high packet per second bandwidth tests around [18:21] 30 second output rate 4606321000 bits/sec, 416762 packets/sec [18:21] LOL [20:17] Symmetria: is that 4.6gbps?