[02:13] <lighta> how can I retrieve a file I just erase ? (e.g lets say I copy a file from a different location on past it on my current directory. Filename was similare and my copy erased my previous file, can I get it back ?)
[02:22] <bo_kane> hey'
[02:23] <bo_kane> testing testing
[02:23] <bo_kane> anyone know how to exit the busybox prompt on xubuntu
[06:03] <pupetto> ciao a tutti
[09:57] <menotknow> Hello all, how do i uninstall xubuntu. I can not get into it to unstall it so any help would nice, thank you
[09:58] <TheSheep> menotknow: how did you install it?
[09:58] <menotknow> from cd
[09:59] <menotknow> my video card does not let me into xubuntu so i want to uninstall it
[09:59] <Sysi> did you install it from windows?
[09:59] <Sysi> with wubi
[10:00] <menotknow> no befor i upgraded my computer i booted into xubuntu and installed it that way
[10:01] <Sysi> if you want to replace it with windows, it's actually windows issue, it can't uninstall itself, that would be like eating your head
[10:02] <menotknow> ok, i want to get the hard drive space back from the install of it
[10:03] <menotknow> is that possible?
[10:03] <Sysi> you can remove partition(s) with livecd and enlarge windows partition or create new ntfs-partition
[10:03] <Sysi> but you will need to fix windows bootloader, and i don't know how
[10:04] <Sysi> in win7 it's possible with retail installation disc
[10:05] <menotknow> ok thank you Sysi for all your help. I guess i will do a fresh install of windows on my computer
[10:06] <menotknow> have a good night all and thank you for all your help
[10:12] <Gaudi> Just here to say: I like XUbuntu
[10:12] <TheSheep> don't worry, it will pass
[10:17] <Gaudi> XUbuntu is KISS
[10:21] <Gaudi> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle)
[10:58] <beefsalad> how can I configure the network interfaces in xubuntu?  Under ubuntu network-manager was present in the task bar
[10:59] <beefsalad> under xubuntu, NetworkManager is running, but theres no obvious way to configure it via an X app
[10:59] <beefsalad> if I didn't have to connect via wpa, I'd do it by hand, but...work requires wpa ;)
[11:00] <Sysi> alt+F2 "nm-applet" if it isn't in panel
[11:01] <beefsalad> damnit, I'm an idiot
[11:02] <beefsalad> it's there, just doesn't look like a network icon to me  ;)
[11:02] <beefsalad> thanks Sysi!
[11:03] <Sysi> np
[12:40] <beefsalad> one more annoyance, and I'll try not to ask a question until I've answered 5 ;)
[12:43] <beefsalad> dates in thunderbird are being displayed as YY-MM-DD, in ubuntu it was MM-DD-YY, how can I change that?
[14:52] <citrus23455> help..my laptop is an old pentium, can't support compiz, i can't get past the boot cd screen on the live cd, what boot parameters should i enter to avoid compiz?
[14:55] <charlie-tca> If you are using the Xubuntu cd, it does not use compiz
[14:56] <citrus23455> well then it's an intel graphics problem
[14:57] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: intel graphics chip doesnt work very well with linux
[14:57] <charlie-tca> I am using it without issues
[14:57] <citrus23455> well I seem to have a truckload of issues :(
[14:58] <citrus23455> (not personally) but rather with the laptop
[14:58] <charlie-tca> however, on the cd, at the menu, hit F6, try those options one at a time. You hit enter on one, then escape, then enter to start the install
[14:58] <Sysi> how much ram?
[14:58] <brousch> you could also try the alternate install CD and afterwards install xubuntu-desktop
[14:59] <charlie-tca> um, the desktop installs even with the alternate cd
[14:59] <citrus23455> well, this laptop is exceptionally hard to install onto.
[14:59] <brousch> it does?
[14:59] <citrus23455>  INTEL R 82810 GRAPHICS
[14:59] <charlie-tca> of course. The difference is the installer, not what it does
[14:59] <brousch> maybe i'm thinking of the server install
[15:00] <knome> there is the minimal iso as well
[15:00] <charlie-tca> minimal is not good if the person doesn't have the ability/knowledge to get past the boot menu, is it?
[15:01] <citrus23455> yes
[15:01] <citrus23455> charlie-tca
[15:01] <citrus23455> that's where i'm stuck
[15:02] <charlie-tca> hit a key when the two symbols appear at the bottom, try the F6 options to see if one will get you started
[15:04] <citrus23455> okay
[15:04] <citrus23455> i'm gonna try this
[15:14] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: it didnt work
[15:28] <charlie-tca> what didn't work?
[15:29] <charlie-tca> you put the Xubuntu cd in the drive, you started the computer, you hit enter at the languages, you hit F6, you tried every one of those options, and ??
[15:40] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: i tried all those options, and it won't boot, it flashes at me, it has something to do with the intel 830m graphics card
[15:41] <citrus23455> do you know if there's any way of using the 5.10 ubuntu with the latest firefox / latest browser?
[15:41] <citrus23455> flash player too
[15:41] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: can I install firefox 3.6 on ubuntu 5.10?
[15:45] <brousch> 5.10 is ancient. even 6.06 LTS desktop has been out of support for a year and a half. i wouldn't hold my breath
[15:45] <charlie-tca> I don't think it will work.
[15:46] <charlie-tca> Is 5.10 the cd that is failing for you, too?
[15:47] <citrus23455> no.
[15:47] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: distros that work are: ubuntu 5.10, 7.10. 7.04. xubuntu 7.10.
[15:47] <citrus23455> ubuntu 8.10 hangs.
[15:47] <brousch> how about 8.04?
[15:47] <knome> ubuntu 8.10 or xubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:47] <charlie-tca> Try downloading and installing 10.04 or 10.10
[15:48] <citrus23455> i'm downloading that right now to test it.
[15:48] <citrus23455> charlie-tca:
[15:48] <charlie-tca> 8.10 is also EOL
[15:48] <citrus23455> eol?
[15:48] <knome> end of life
[15:48] <charlie-tca> End Of Life
[15:48] <citrus23455> shit
[15:48] <citrus23455> i wish it wasnt
[15:48] <brousch> 8.04 has another 2 months of life ;)
[15:48] <charlie-tca> No longer supported
[15:48] <citrus23455> drat it
[15:48] <Sysi> how do you know it's about graphics card?
[15:48] <citrus23455> this machine's a nightmare to work linux on
[15:48] <knome> charlie-tca, please watch your languge
[15:49] <knome> erm, citrus23455 ^
[15:49] <citrus23455> it's definitely the graphics card
[15:49] <knome> charlie-tca, but you too little fellow! ;)
[15:49] <citrus23455> lol sorry knome
[15:49] <citrus23455> :D
[15:49] <knome> no problem
[15:49] <knome> we're just trying to keep the channel family-friendly
[15:49] <citrus23455> ah yes, indeed, i'm sorry
[15:49] <charlie-tca> okay, I will try :-)
[15:50] <knome> charlie-tca can be a real hard case now and then
[15:50] <citrus23455> i narrowed it down to the intel 830m chipset lots of others were having that problem
[15:50] <charlie-tca> citrus23455: Most people have better results using the latest releases. They have been improved to work with more hardware
[15:51] <citrus23455> can you install .deb into puppylinux>?
[15:51] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: 10.10 xubuntu / ubuntu both flash when trying to load boot splash screen.
[15:51] <citrus23455> then they hang
[15:51] <citrus23455> i'm considering installing puppylinux... provided it is similar to ubuntu
[15:52] <citrus23455> charlie-tca: what do yo uthink?
[15:53] <Sysi> afaik it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[15:57] <charlie-tca> I think each person should try several different operating systems, to find the one they like
[15:57] <charlie-tca> Hopefully, that one will be Xubuntu, in the end
[15:57] <charlie-tca> On the other hand, I am a bit stubborn, and don't actually give up easy
[15:58] <charlie-tca> I installed wireless on 5.04 and 5.10
[15:58] <charlie-tca> when you had to download from 4 or 5 sites, copy the files to floppy disks, and install from them to get wireless working
[16:41] <mark76> Apparently you can't untar multiple packages at once
[18:06] <xubuntu323> ciao
[18:17] <qiyan> hello don't open eric python IDE on xubuntu
[18:18] <charlie-tca> okay, but we usually don't bother paying attention to such statements without reasons
[19:01] <gonzo_> hola
[21:21] <xubuntu811> hi all first time on xubuntu so could you recomend what is better for remote controle. i know just 2 options vino and freeNX<-which is better?
[21:24] <xubuntu811> is all dead?
[21:25] <Sysi> don't know ir no opinions or just not here at this minute, wait for some time
[21:25] <Sysi> s/ir/or
[21:25] <charlie-tca> I suspect it is more a matter of who has tried both and knows the differences
[21:26] <xubuntu811> is anybody using any remote controle xubuntu <-> windows 7?
[21:26] <charlie-tca> xubuntu811: I will take a shot at it. I have used vino, so that would be my recommendation
[21:26] <charlie-tca> I have never used freenx
[21:26]  * charlie-tca doesn't really have windows, either
[21:27] <xubuntu3924> How can I keep the back audio unmuted when I plug headphones into the front port?
[21:28] <xubuntu3924> headphone/line sense is off
[21:29] <xubuntu811> thanx for attention :) i will try them bouth and tell you mates :), but at first need to learn some commans
[21:32] <David-A> xubuntu811: vino is in the repositories, freenx not afai can see. you can remote control with gui with ssh -Y and command line with ssh. from winxp with X in cygwin, win7 i dont know.
[21:34] <brousch> i like nomachine for remote desktop
[21:34] <brousch> freenx tries to be like nomachne's nx
[21:39] <xubuntu3924> I take it no one can help?
[22:19] <guest> I take it you can't use the speakers and headphones?
[22:20] <charlie-tca> kind of defeats the purpose of the headphones
[22:20] <guest> Not if you have two sets of headphones
[22:21] <Sysi> you propably need to do the muting from mixer, xfce one or pulseaudio
[22:23] <charlie-tca> I don't really know, I only have one speaker output on my soundcard.
[22:24] <charlie-tca> I do know, if I plug into the headphone jack on the sound card, the speakers do not mute. If I plug into the headphones jack on the speakers, they do mute
[22:25] <guest> I have a front port and back port
[22:25] <guest> Nothing is on mute
[22:26] <charlie-tca> Plug the headphones into the speaker ports
[22:27] <guest> Two headphones one in front and one in back
[22:27] <guest> When I unplug the front the back start playing the audio
[22:28] <charlie-tca> that would be a hardware limit then. the front jack takes priority over the rear jack
[22:28] <guest> Do I need to check the jack sense in the switches tab (in mixer)?
[22:29] <charlie-tca> I suspect you would need to rewire the box itself, to allow both headphones to be used
[22:29] <guest> In windows all I need to do is kill the audio manager..
[22:30] <guest> On another computer that is
[22:30] <charlie-tca> um, that is not the same then
[22:33] <guest> So the hardware doesn't support it... thanks for your help