| === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh | ||
| valorie | packaging experts - we are getting lots of requests for backporting Amarok 2.4 to Lucid | 00:23 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | any possibility of that happening? | 00:23 |
| valorie | one of our guys tried to do it in a PPA, but wasn't successful | 00:23 |
| claydoh | valorie: I get the same requests | 00:31 |
| claydoh | Riddell: working on it, what part of the new language seletion stuff is new, need a graphic | 00:32 |
| claydoh | valorie: it shouldn't be hard, unless there is some library that can't be upgraded in lucid | 00:34 |
| valorie | that would be lovely | 00:34 |
| * claydoh was going to look at it, but is a poor packager | 00:34 | |
| valorie | to whom should I send cookies? | 00:35 |
| claydoh | all of them :) | 00:35 |
| valorie | haha, that will have to wait until UDS | 00:36 |
| valorie | is there somewhere to add that request on the wiki, or something? | 00:41 |
| claydoh | idunno | 00:42 |
| JontheEchidna | claydoh: now it's in System Settings: http://i.imgur.com/sOGdU.png | 00:42 |
| claydoh | there may be a reason for not having one, | 00:42 |
| claydoh | JontheEchidna: you da man thankyothankyouthankyou | 00:43 |
| claydoh | never had to change languages before | 00:43 |
| valorie | I'll write to the kub-dev list and ask there | 00:43 |
| claydoh | valorie: that sounds best, actually | 00:49 |
| valorie | email sent; off to dinner | 01:10 |
| nixternal | why are people still using lucid? | 01:23 |
| JontheEchidna | There's that whole LTS thing | 01:24 |
| nixternal | ahh, forgot about that | 01:24 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 01:24 |
| nixternal | !info amarok lucid | 01:25 |
| ubottu | amarok (source: amarok): easy to use media player based on the KDE 4 technology platform. In component main, is optional. Version 2:2.3.0-0ubuntu4 (lucid), package size 5562 kB, installed size 22056 kB | 01:25 |
| ScottK | That an Intel sucks on Maverick. | 01:25 |
| ScottK | an/and | 01:25 |
| nixternal | no comments on that | 01:25 |
| nixternal | intel only sucks on *buntu, which i don't even care to dig into anymore | 01:25 |
| nixternal | actually, i think it is sucking on my debian box too | 01:26 |
| claydoh | my intel doesn't seem to suck, but I have not run anything but Natty on my new-used dell | 02:04 |
| claydoh | other than vista that is | 02:04 |
| claydoh | and that was only for a day or 2 | 02:05 |
| claydoh | ScottK: is bug 634664 still valid for alpha3? and are there any other significant ones to mention? | 02:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 634664 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Updates not downloaded during install when selected and internet is available" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634664 | 02:08 |
| ScottK | claydoh: Dunno. It's been awhile since I did an install. | 02:16 |
| nixternal | claydoh: i just installed yesterday or the day before, and the updates installed. that was using a live cd latest release, and it grabbed like 13 updates iirc | 02:30 |
| claydoh | nixternal: well then i'll leave the known issues blank for now | 02:37 |
| === jussi01 is now known as Guest39611 | ||
| nigelb | apachelogger / shadeslayer: ping | 05:14 |
| nigelb | if I were to start qt development on ubuntu, what pakcages do I need to install? | 05:15 |
| yofel | qt4-dev-tools and qtcreator would be a good start | 05:52 |
| nigelb | I just did an install of qtcreator | 05:54 |
| nigelb | I figure it will pull all the right deps | 05:54 |
| yofel | the dependency list looks fine, so that should give you everything yes | 05:55 |
| nigelb | w00t, thanks :) | 05:55 |
| nigelb | and here I am gettign converted to qt and kde step by step | 05:55 |
| nigelb | phew | 06:04 |
| nigelb | success | 06:04 |
| bambee | morning | 08:36 |
| === tarun is now known as c2tarun | ||
| c2tarun | good morning :) | 08:36 |
| bambee | :) | 08:40 |
| bambee | I guess that the following patch can be accepted but UNRELEASED ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/574871/ | 08:42 |
| bambee | I mean it can be accepted as a simple bugfixes ? I don't think so.. but I prefer ask | 08:43 |
| c2tarun | bambee: I think dep3 tags with patches would be a good option :) | 08:47 |
| bambee | dep3 ? | 08:48 |
| c2tarun | !dep3 | 08:48 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about dep3 | 08:48 |
| nigelb | http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ | 08:49 |
| c2tarun | bambee: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/ | 08:49 |
| bambee | thanks | 08:50 |
| Riddell | bambee: dep 3 doesn't apply there, that's for patches which live in the packaging | 09:54 |
| Riddell | bambee: what does this patch do? | 09:54 |
| bambee | basically: apply is clickable only when a "component" is clicked and not on item changed (it was confusing) | 09:55 |
| bambee | components are clickable ONLY when they are available and not installed yet | 09:56 |
| bambee | if the component is installable it's checked but disabled (in grey) | 09:56 |
| bambee | s/installable/installed/ (sorry) | 09:56 |
| kubotu | bambee meant: "if the component is installed it's checked but disabled (in grey)" | 09:56 |
| bambee | I also add tooltips on checkboxes : for disabled checkboxes there is a "not available component", for checked checkboxes there is a "already installed component" and for not checked checkbox there is a "not installed component" | 09:58 |
| bambee | that all | 09:58 |
| bambee | so basically: it's less confusing :) | 09:58 |
| bambee | Riddell: just try it, you will find a difference :) | 09:59 |
| bambee | (ps: all these details are summarised in the changelog) | 10:00 |
| bambee | also try the following thing: click a language, then check a checkbox... then uncheck it... apply is reverted :) | 10:05 |
| Riddell | sorry busy with alpha 3 now | 10:05 |
| Riddell | will get to it sometime today | 10:05 |
| bambee | I understand | 10:06 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yo, what it your conf.kde.in tutorial going to cover? | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: the 45 minute talk? or the workshop? | 11:07 |
| shadeslayer | because there is a bit of a issue wrt the workshop | 11:07 |
| shadeslayer | they only have fedora systems there :( | 11:07 |
| nigelb | Riddell: when are you landing here again? | 11:07 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: both | 11:08 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: can I recommend ec2? :) | 11:08 |
| Riddell | nigelb: monday night | 11:08 |
| nigelb | woot | 11:08 |
| Riddell | but I've no idea what happens then | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i could make them ssh into my machine, much faster that way | 11:08 |
| nigelb | ok, I should plan to get back to bangalore soonish then | 11:08 |
| shadeslayer | everything is already set up here | 11:09 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: are we all meeting for dinner some day? | 11:09 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: why not just set up an ec2 machine for each person? | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: sure | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: works for me | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | also | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | this gives me a idea | 11:09 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: let's write neonbuild | 11:10 |
| nigelb | use screen and let everyone see what you're doing? ;) | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: what's the fun in that :P | 11:10 |
| nigelb | haha | 11:10 |
| shadeslayer | people don't learn if they don't make mistakes | 11:10 |
| nigelb | I may attend only the workshops | 11:11 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: we can work out a script to set up machines given people's launchpad id | 11:11 |
| Riddell | nigelb: what should I do a workshop on? | 11:11 |
| nigelb | Riddell: ooh. Getting started with QT? Or something to do with packaging? | 11:12 |
| Riddell | I'm down to do a getting started with PyKDE one, but there are two other PyQt workshops | 11:12 |
| Riddell | but I think packaging is being covered by shadeslayer no? | 11:12 |
| nigelb | how about a c++ one? | 11:12 |
| nigelb | qt with c++ that is | 11:12 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: packaging nightly builds yes | 11:12 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: how much does that cover normal packaging? | 11:13 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: no script is required, just install the PPA | 11:13 |
| nigelb | a debian packaging session for your app would go a long way | 11:13 |
| Riddell | so I could cover writing a simple pyKDE app and getting it packaged and into kubuntu? | 11:14 |
| nigelb | \o/ WIN | 11:14 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: or does that overlap with you too much? | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: well ..... it covers some debian files, the most important ones, you could do something like a advanced packaging session | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: nah ... should be fine | 11:15 |
| shadeslayer | i'd attend it ... i've never handled a python package | 11:16 |
| nigelb | hehe | 11:16 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: you still don't know where your staying right? | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: yeah :( | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | pradeepto sent me a survey thingy | 11:16 |
| shadeslayer | but no news on accomodation yet | 11:17 |
| Riddell | he told me something | 11:17 |
| Riddell | hmm, lost it now | 11:17 |
| Riddell | some hotel a bus ride away from the place | 11:17 |
| Riddell | I hope pradeepto gets back to me today, I'm going to England tomorrow and may not have internet access until I arrive in India | 11:18 |
| nigelb | I have quite a ride to the place :| | 11:18 |
| shadeslayer | ouch | 11:19 |
| nigelb | Probably an hour to get there. At least. | 11:19 |
| nigelb | and don't even talk to me about getting back, that'd be far worse | 11:19 |
| Riddell | ug commuting, I'm so glad I don't live in a big city | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | hhaha | 11:20 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: yeah i think me and sidharth will book a taxi when we go back | 11:20 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: please do, its worth it | 11:22 |
| nigelb | Also of note: autos are not allowed inside the airport. | 11:22 |
| shadeslayer | oh oh oh | 11:24 |
| Riddell | "autos"? | 11:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: you should totaly ride one | 11:24 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: 3 wheeler vehicles | 11:24 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: google indian autos | 11:24 |
| kubotu | Results for indian autos: 1. Auto rickshaw - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_rickshaw | 2. Indian Autos Blog | Indian Automobile Blog | Auto News India | Car ...: http://indianautosblog.com/ | 3. Another Tata Nano bursts into flames! | Indian Autos blog: http://indianautosblog.com/2010/03/another-tata-nano-bursts-into-flames | 11:24 |
| Riddell | I used to be a rickshaw driver before my Kubuntu days, back then we had to paddle of course, none of this motor stuff | 11:25 |
| Riddell | peddle | 11:25 |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 11:25 |
| shadeslayer | well .. there are tonga's for that | 11:26 |
| shadeslayer | more popular in bengal tho | 11:26 |
| nigelb | yeah, none of that in Bangalore | 11:26 |
| * shadeslayer checks the weather in bengaluru | 11:26 | |
| nigelb | its hot :| | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | 31 oC | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | :O | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | it's 11 oC here | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: humid? | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | .. thank god it's not humid | 11:27 |
| shadeslayer | Humidity: 7% | 11:27 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: for me its dry, coming from north ymmy | 11:28 |
| nigelb | Right now, I'm in Kerala, 100% humidiy :| | 11:28 |
| nigelb | s/humidiy/humidity | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | whoa | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: it's 88 % here | 11:28 |
| nigelb | but its cold | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | eyah | 11:28 |
| nigelb | its hot and humid for me | 11:28 |
| Riddell | I should pack light clothes and sun cream I think | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | *yeah | 11:28 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: yep | 11:29 |
| nigelb | err, night times can be colder in Bangalore btw | 11:29 |
| shadeslayer | i see ... 16oC as a low | 11:29 |
| nigelb | lows are 14 to 18 | 11:29 |
| Riddell | BBC says night is 16°C that's still t-shirt and shorts weather | 11:29 |
| tazz | hmm | 11:30 |
| nigelb | oh, well | 11:30 |
| shadeslayer | and right now i'm in jeans and a shirt in 11 oC | 11:30 |
| tazz | Riddell, pack light. | 11:32 |
| tazz | Riddell, first visit to india ? | 11:32 |
| Riddell | tazz: yes | 11:32 |
| tazz | Riddell, stock up on some russel peters videos for the plain ride... Seriously. You'll thank me when you land in India. | 11:33 |
| Riddell | who? | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: around? | 11:34 |
| tazz | russell peters*sorry... | 11:34 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 11:34 |
| Riddell | tazz: who? | 11:34 |
| tazz | Riddell, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn5jlrxcpkI this guy. | 11:34 |
| shadeslayer | tazz++ | 11:34 |
| nigelb | haha | 11:34 |
| shadeslayer | just for suggesting Russell peters | 11:35 |
| tazz | thats very much what india is like really... | 11:35 |
| nigelb | tazz++ | 11:35 |
| nigelb | tazz++ | 11:35 |
| nigelb | tazz++ | 11:35 |
| nigelb | tazz++ | 11:35 |
| nigelb | tazz++ | 11:35 |
| tazz | nigelb, erm... wrong channel ? Some places its actually considered spamming :p | 11:36 |
| Riddell | American standup? | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: and prepare to be fleeced :P | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | and prepare to bargain like hell | 11:36 |
| nigelb | tazz: nah, right channel ;) | 11:36 |
| tazz | Riddell, canadian Standup to be knitpicking :p | 11:37 |
| tazz | s/knitpicking/nitpicking/ | 11:37 |
| kubotu | tazz meant: "Riddell, canadian Standup to be nitpicking :p" | 11:37 |
| Riddell | I'm going to Birmingham tomorrow, so I'll be able to compare who does a better Chicken Tikka Masala, English or Indians :) | 11:38 |
| jussi | Hrm, is it still a bug that Im getting no redrawing sometimes on intel (screen artifacts) | 11:38 |
| jussi | ? | 11:38 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: try raster | 11:39 |
| shadeslayer | maybe that helps | 11:39 |
| shadeslayer | ( altho it probably won't ) | 11:39 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: we would want amarok 2.4 to go into kubuntu updates right? | 11:39 |
| shadeslayer | since everyone is using a LTS release | 11:39 |
| shadeslayer | valorie: ^^ | 11:39 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: no, backports | 11:40 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok | 11:40 |
| Riddell | lucid-backports if possible | 11:41 |
| c2tarun | While installing build-dependencies for kdenetwork on maverick I got E: Broked packages. Why so? | 11:41 |
| shadeslayer | well .... i'll try for lucid backports first then | 11:41 |
| shadeslayer | backporting from natty | 11:41 |
| c2tarun | here is the complete log while installing the build-dep for kdenetwork http://paste.kde.org/6283/ | 11:42 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: check if sudo apt-get -f install is happy | 11:43 |
| c2tarun | nope | 11:44 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: not working :( | 11:44 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: what's it saying? | 11:45 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: same error check this error log http://paste.kde.org/6283/ | 11:45 |
| Riddell | that's not sudo apt-get -f install | 11:46 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: error was same so I refered to that log, http://paste.kde.org/6284/ here is the log for -f | 11:46 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: how exactly do I "try raster"? | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: one sec :) | 11:48 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: no, run just "sudo apt-get -f install" | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KCM+Qt+Graphics+System?content=129817 | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger made a nice app | 11:49 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/6285/ | 11:49 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: apt-cache policy libkio5 | 11:50 |
| shadeslayer | O_O http://paste.kde.org/6286 | 11:50 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/6287/ | 11:52 |
| shadeslayer | ah better now | 11:53 |
| * shadeslayer removed the PPA | 11:53 | |
| jussi | shadeslayer: do you know if he debianised it at all? | 11:53 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: nope .. you'll have to compile it | 11:53 |
| jussi | :( | 11:53 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: "500 https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ninjas/ppa/ubuntu/ natty/main i386 Packages" notice anything wrong there? | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | there are instructions in there :D | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: it's fairly simple to compile it | 11:54 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: Id rather not be compiling stuff on the work lappy, thats all | 11:54 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: ahh... that username and password is missing :( sorry | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | ah .. | 11:54 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: ok lemme see if i can make a deb | 11:55 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: more that you're installing natty packages on maverick | 11:55 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: 64 bit please :) | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer | oh goody | 11:55 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: and thank you :) | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: this just became easier :D | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer | sure no problem | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: is it a particular app or the whole desktop btw? | 11:56 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: whole desktop | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | because you can launch plasma with : plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster .... | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: ^^ try : kquitapp plasma-desktop; plasma-desktop -graphicssystem raster | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | oh lookie | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer | amarok is compiling | 11:57 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: fixed it :) and very sorry for such silly mistake :( | 11:58 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: it seemed to restart plasma but gave http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/574936/ | 11:58 |
| jussi | mind, everything seems much faster now | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: did plasma startup? | 11:59 |
| jussi | and desktop effects appear to actually work | 11:59 |
| jussi | yes | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | that's all we want :P | 11:59 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: artifacts? | 11:59 |
| jussi | I havent seen any artifacts since the plasma restart and speed is better | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | yeah raster has that effect :P | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: now imagine this one *every* kde app | 12:00 |
| shadeslayer | this is just plasma ... you can use it with every app :) | 12:00 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: heh | 12:01 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: do you have lucid? | 12:02 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: no | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | mav? | 12:02 |
| jussi | yes | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kcm-qt-graphicssystem/ << | 12:02 |
| shadeslayer | i see some binaries there | 12:02 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/725959 blasts every Qt app on my natty netbook sky high | 12:03 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 725959 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "libqt4 4:4.7.1-0ubuntu10, 11 and 12 produce segfault in VirtualBox (libqtgui4)" [Medium,Fix committed] | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | oh oh | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kcm-qt-graphicssystem | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | seem's it's debianized | 12:03 |
| shadeslayer | so anyone have some experience with qt qml designer | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: the n900 FTBFS is from our uploads actually | 12:04 |
| apachelogger | or at least mine ^^ | 12:04 |
| * apachelogger thought we had ABI checks turned out, turns out we did not | 12:04 | |
| ScottK | Please be fixing then. | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | I do not have my keys on this machine... | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: if you have time, you just need to copy the abi stuff in debian.n900 for .2 and .3 | 12:05 |
| apachelogger | as we did not change the ABI anyway | 12:05 |
| ScottK | OK. | 12:06 |
| ScottK | You need to fix pkg-kde-tools anyway. | 12:06 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 12:07 |
| apachelogger | probably depending on gcc-4.4 and conflicting gcc-4.5 should do the trick there | 12:07 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: we have a request for backporting amarok 2.4 to lucid | 12:08 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: i'm working on it, but i'd like to hear your thought's on it | 12:09 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: You'd need to do maverick too. | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | ah | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | you mean backport to maverick backports first? | 12:09 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: It can be done at the same time. | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | ( amarok 2.4 is already in the ppa ) | 12:09 |
| shadeslayer | for maverick i mean ^^ | 12:10 |
| ScottK | OK. | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: seems the clue with kernel packages is to only n.m increment the revision when doing non-abi changes | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer | ok i'll opena bug for that | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | from looking at linux that I gather | 12:10 |
| ScottK | I see. | 12:10 |
| steveire | Is something wrong here: http://dpaste.com/468584/ | 12:10 |
| ScottK | steveire: You should install updates first. You're missing the libc6 from lucid-updates. It's not broken as is, your just missing the latest update. | 12:13 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: I'm packaging the new Qt now wi | 12:16 |
| Riddell | th the fix for that | 12:17 |
| jussi | mrgh | 12:17 |
| steveire | ScottK: Thanks. | 12:18 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: I think we broked it :D http://imgur.com/qvAEP | 12:18 |
| ScottK | steveire: You're welcome. | 12:18 |
| shadeslayer | lolz | 12:19 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: yeah that can happen | 12:19 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: probably because not everything is using raster | 12:19 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: hey I saw on ppa page a report that kdeutils failed to build due to unmet dependencies, I build that package yesterday on maverick machine. (there I may have got dependencies by that private ppa) If I was able to build succesfully due to this fact than why are these pacakges from ppa are not in archive? | 12:19 |
| shadeslayer | or is this after installing KCM? | 12:19 |
| shadeslayer | s/KCM/the KCM Module | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: you use chromium ... i'm disappointed :( | 12:20 |
| nigelb | darn, you shoulda used lynx ;) | 12:21 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: find me a browser that does what I want it to do, as quick and cleanly as chromium and Ill switch | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | module "QtQuick" is not installed | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: rekonq? :P | 12:21 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: this is after installing the deb you linked to. | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | or firefox | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: uninstall that deb | 12:21 |
| shadeslayer | and install the one from the archives | 12:21 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: err? archives? which is (packagename? | 12:23 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kcm-qt-graphicssystem | 12:23 |
| jussi | thanks | 12:25 |
| shadeslayer | !find googlemaps.qml | 12:26 |
| ubottu | Package/file googlemaps.qml does not exist in maverick | 12:26 |
| shadeslayer | aw | 12:26 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: i think that's because kdebase-workspace was not up to date in the archive | 12:28 |
| Riddell | it can probably be retried now | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | btw who made that rtorrent UI at UDS? | 12:30 |
| shadeslayer | i don't remember | 12:30 |
| steveire | I started downloading the natty alpha from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/11.04/alpha-2/ and it's coming in at 49kbps. Am I just on a slow mirror? | 12:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: ryan from ars technica | 12:45 |
| shadeslayer | alrighty :) | 12:45 |
| Riddell | steveire: i think we're all busy rsyncing alpha 3 candidates which might be slowing the server | 12:45 |
| steveire | Ah | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: any idea's what his irc nick is? | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | dude use zsync | 12:46 |
| shadeslayer | zsync++ | 12:46 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: no. markey knows | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | oh ok | 12:47 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: what's the difference? | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: zsync downloads only the diff | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | instead of the whole file | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | ( dunno how rsync does it ) | 12:47 |
| al | and what's the difference to rsync? | 12:47 |
| shadeslayer | al: rsync also downloads the diff? | 12:48 |
| al | yes, but with less overhead | 12:48 |
| shadeslayer | oh .. i thought zsync used lesser overhead | 12:48 |
| al | well, i'm not entirely sure | 12:49 |
| al | but since the web site states "zsync provides transfers that are nearly as efficient as rsync -z", i guess it's correct | 12:50 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: is this version name correct for kdenetwork 4:4.6.1-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1? | 12:50 |
| shadeslayer | well i just follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO | 12:51 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 12:51 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: yes | 12:51 |
| Guest39611 | shadeslayer: I broke it (tried opengl), now cant log in - is there some way to revert it from the cli? | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | Guest39611: jussi ? | 12:52 |
| Guest39611 | shadeslayer: oh. yes | 12:52 |
| Guest39611 | sorry | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 12:52 |
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| shadeslayer | hmm | 12:52 |
| shadeslayer | looking | 12:53 |
| jussi01 | Ive tried the failsafe login | 12:53 |
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| Guest24446 | I guess its somewhere in a rc file? | 12:53 |
| Guest24446 | bah | 12:53 |
| === Guest24446 is now known as jussi01 | ||
| shadeslayer | yeah | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | it's probably in a file | 12:55 |
| shadeslayer | !find qt-graphicssystem.sh | 12:56 |
| ubottu | Package/file qt-graphicssystem.sh does not exist in maverick | 12:56 |
| shadeslayer | :/ | 12:56 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 12:56 |
| shadeslayer | jussi01: echo export QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM=native% &> .kde/env/qt-graphicssystem.sh | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | or change raster to native in that file | 13:00 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 13:03 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: I win :) | 13:03 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: do i put amarok for lucid in the ninja's ppa or the staging ppa? | 13:04 |
| jussi | It was letting me login, but noth showing anything but window fromes | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | LD | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 13:04 |
| jussi | so I "guessed" where things were | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | jussi01: that can happen sometimes | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: yeah so raster isn't still finished | 13:04 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: staging, nothing secret there | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 13:04 |
| Riddell | make sure staging is empty first | 13:04 |
| shadeslayer | yeah doing that | 13:05 |
| Riddell | ** new alpha 3 candidate live CDs for testing | 13:06 |
| shadeslayer | amarok uploaded to staging | 13:07 |
| shadeslayer | time to tell people | 13:08 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: neonbuild? | 13:20 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: neon + pdebuild | 13:20 |
| shadeslayer | sets up a pbuilder for building packages for neon | 13:20 |
| yofel | hm - that's probably doable | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 13:21 |
| yofel | I'll put looking at that on my todo list | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | ok :) | 13:21 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: bug 728447 | 13:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 728447 in maverick-backports "Please backport Amarok" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728447 | 13:37 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: were people not wanting lucid? | 13:40 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: needs to be backported to maverick first | 13:40 |
| shadeslayer | <ScottK> shadeslayer: You'd need to do maverick too. | 13:41 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: can you please take a look at this debdiff http://paste.kde.org/6296/ | 13:57 |
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| Riddell | c2tarun: looks fine | 14:00 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: ok, then I'll upload it, and one more question, on ppa page I saw a message that kdeutils failed to build on maverick, its the same which I build yesterday. why so? | 14:01 |
| bambee | http://paste.ubuntu.com/574970/ <--- someone has the same crash ? on logout sometimes it crashes randomly | 14:01 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: it says due to unmet dependencies. | 14:01 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: it's waiting on kdebase-workspace, is kdebase-workspace compiled for maverick? | 14:03 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: older version is in maverick, may be kdeutils require a later version | 14:03 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: I think shadeslayer compiled it for mav | 14:04 |
| shadeslayer | hmm? | 14:06 |
| shadeslayer | what happened? | 14:06 |
| Riddell | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages says kdebase-workspace is in maverick | 14:06 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: so go to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2296247 and https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+buildjob/2296248 and click retry | 14:06 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: you do realize you can just add a lucid-backports task to that backport request? (IIRC it's fine to backport it to both) | 14:10 |
| shadeslayer | i can? O_O | 14:11 |
| * shadeslayer does | 14:11 | |
| yofel | also affects project -> lucid-backports | 14:11 |
| shadeslayer | kewl | 14:11 |
| bambee | 1 871 kB/s :D | 14:23 |
| * bambee loves university network | 14:24 | |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Don't need to do Maverick first. Can be done together. | 14:24 |
| ScottK | (and as yofel says) | 14:24 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: yep marked as such :) | 14:25 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: See the bug. | 14:27 |
| shadeslayer | okay | 14:28 |
| debfx | ScottK: we don't need -Wa,-mimplicit-it=thumb anymore, right? | 14:28 |
| ScottK | debfx: Shouldn't. | 14:28 |
| Riddell | bambee: CD testing? | 14:29 |
| ScottK | Although with the current state of using gcc4.4 on Qt I'm not 100% sure. | 14:29 |
| ScottK | debfx: ^^^ | 14:29 |
| bambee | Riddell: sure :) | 14:29 |
| debfx | I don't think it matters how qt is built | 14:30 |
| * debfx drops all the crazy hacks from the akonadi package | 14:31 | |
| Riddell | I'm away tomorrow, who wants to handle the 4.6.1 release? | 14:31 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: done | 14:33 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: So you need to backport libindicate-qt also? | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | no .. builds fine without the version | 14:35 |
| shadeslayer | i mean .. lucid and maverick have that version :) | 14:36 |
| ScottK | libindicate-qt-dev (>= 0.2.5.91) | 14:37 |
| ScottK | libindicate-qt-dev | 0.2.5-0ubuntu1 | maverick | amd64, i386 | 14:37 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: ^^^ Nope. | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | huh .. weird | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | how did it build then | 14:37 |
| ScottK | You've got the newer one in the PPA, right? | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 14:37 |
| shadeslayer | uh | 14:38 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: i'm wondering how it built for lucid | 14:38 |
| Riddell | c2tarun: will you retry those builds? | 14:38 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I don't think libindicate-qt0 and libindicate-qt1 are co-installable. | 14:39 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: i retried them, let me check the status | 14:39 |
| yofel | ScottK: libindicate-qt-dev is 0.2.5-0ubuntu1 for lucid and maverick here | 14:40 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 14:40 |
| yofel | rmadison says the same | 14:40 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer made his patch backwards. | 14:40 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: what is actinium virtual? | 14:40 |
| yofel | c2tarun: a build machine on launchpad (running as a virtual machine) | 14:41 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Dropping the version requirement is fine. | 14:41 |
| shadeslayer | ok ... looks like the version was required just for a rebuild | 14:41 |
| yofel | c2tarun: see https://launchpad.net/builders/ | 14:42 |
| shadeslayer | i do so hate debdiff | 14:42 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: why? | 14:43 |
| c2tarun | Riddell: a later version of libkonq5-dev is required, maverick has older version | 14:44 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: try debdiff'ing a package with a new release and you'll know why :P | 14:45 |
| yofel | c2tarun: you need to backport kdebase first | 14:47 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: which package? (I mean) binary or source? | 14:47 |
| c2tarun | yofel: kdebase? | 14:47 |
| yofel | source kdebase | 14:47 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: source | 14:47 |
| c2tarun | yofel: but the error is for libkonq5-dev | 14:48 |
| yofel | c2tarun: libkonq5-dev is binary for source kdebase | 14:48 |
| yofel | c2tarun: see https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/1532744/+listing-archive-extra | 14:48 |
| c2tarun | yofel: kdebase and kdebase-workspace are different? | 14:49 |
| yofel | c2tarun: yes | 14:49 |
| yofel | the naming is a bit confusing, but it's the apps directory from kdebase, workspace and runtime other other 2 | 14:49 |
| yofel | s/other/are the/ | 14:50 |
| kubotu | yofel meant: "the naming is a bit confusing, but it's the apps directory from kdebase, workspace and runtime are the other 2" | 14:50 |
| c2tarun | yofel: hmm... how to backport? | 14:50 |
| yofel | same as for the others, I can take a look at it | 14:51 |
| c2tarun | yofel: sure :) | 14:51 |
| c2tarun | yofel: I am just confirming, backporting means I have to build the natty one on maverick machine and upload it to ppa? | 14:52 |
| yofel | yep | 14:52 |
| c2tarun | yofel: ok, so are you taking kdebase? | 14:52 |
| yofel | yes | 14:52 |
| c2tarun | yofel: thanks :) | 14:53 |
| yofel | Riddell: are those files really not meant to be installed? http://paste.kde.org/6302 (kdebase) the libkdeinit and manpages are ok, but the rest? | 15:18 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Looks good. I'll take care of it from here. | 15:19 |
| shadeslayer | thanks :) | 15:19 |
| Riddell | yofel: they're all from konq-plugins which shouldn't be in kdebase | 15:19 |
| bambee | Riddell: done, works fine (still with a virtual machine) | 15:19 |
| yofel | ah ok | 15:19 |
| Riddell | yofel: new kdebase tar | 15:20 |
| Riddell | d032fb52e5fdf2eb0b3ab37a7a06eacf kdebase-4.6.1.tar.bz2 | 15:20 |
| Riddell | grab that from ktown, call it 4.6.1a | 15:20 |
| Riddell | upload to natty and maverick | 15:20 |
| Riddell | thanks bambee | 15:20 |
| bambee | you're welcome | 15:20 |
| yofel | Riddell: I'll to that then | 15:21 |
| yofel | Riddell: rebuild kdenetwork too? | 15:24 |
| Riddell | yofel: yes please | 15:29 |
| Riddell | kdeedu as well | 15:29 |
| yofel | what was wrong with edu? (or did I loose a mail?) | 15:31 |
| Riddell | yofel: kalgebra linking issue, we have a patch which can be removed | 15:31 |
| yofel | oh that one, ok | 15:32 |
| Riddell | indians: what sort of power sockets do you have? | 15:32 |
| nigelb | Riddell: round | 15:33 |
| nigelb | let me find a picture | 15:33 |
| nigelb | or take one | 15:33 |
| nigelb | Riddell: 220V vtw | 15:33 |
| nigelb | s/vtw/btw/ | 15:34 |
| kubotu | nigelb meant: "Riddell: 220V btw" | 15:34 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer and valorie: amarok building now in lucid-backports. | 15:35 |
| shadeslayer | \o/ | 15:36 |
| nigelb | Riddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~nigelbabu/power.jpg | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i have some converters lying around | 15:36 |
| shadeslayer | want me to bring them along? | 15:36 |
| yofel | ok, kdebase looks right now, uploading | 15:37 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: kk | 15:39 |
| * apachelogger got a new device to play with :D | 15:39 | |
| apachelogger | earlier than expected even | 15:39 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: chrome notebook? :p | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | what would I want that for? | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | though I must say our netbook version needs some UX improvements and serious advertisment | 15:40 |
| apachelogger | nigelb: see facebook | 15:44 |
| shadeslayer | ooh | 15:44 |
| nigelb | apachelogger: ooh la la! | 15:45 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: looks phat | 15:45 |
| apachelogger | well | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | it is for the movies | 15:46 |
| shadeslayer | can you make calls? :P) | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | no | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | though it has a mic | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | and it has speakers | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | ... | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | just needs a phone app ids say | 15:47 |
| yofel | why does a phone today need to make calls? you just get an internet flat and some VoIP service | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | fist things first, googlé apps | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: did you already do the kernel? | 15:49 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Not yet. | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | ok | 15:49 |
| * apachelogger is just having tea and will jump at it afterwards | 15:49 | |
| ScottK | Was busy fixing backports since shadeslayer can't figure out debdiff. | 15:49 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: good job | 15:50 |
| c2tarun | how can I find packages in kubuntu-ninja ppa that failed to build? | 15:53 |
| yofel | c2tarun: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages | 15:53 |
| yofel | c2tarun: you can click on the architectures that failed | 15:54 |
| * c2tarun wow... seems that only packages uploaded by me fails ;) | 15:57 | |
| yofel | c2tarun: only currently :P | 15:58 |
| c2tarun | yofel: yup :) could you please ping me when kdebase is included? | 15:59 |
| yofel | sure, probalby ~20mins | 15:59 |
| c2tarun | yofel: thanks :) | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 16:00 |
| debfx | apachelogger: is there a particular reason why we have an apparmor profile for mysqld-akonadi? | 16:00 |
| shadeslayer | oh lp has a url shortning service O_O | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | debfx: sure, because it is a fully qualified mysql and thus could be use for all sorts of shit | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | http://pad.lv/728447 | 16:01 |
| c2tarun | yofel: on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging page its that kdebase is uploaded by some one onto ppa? how come its not there? | 16:01 |
| yofel | kdenetwork uploaded, kdeedu coming | 16:02 |
| debfx | apachelogger: we copy mysqld to mysqld-akonadi at build time so we don't get any mysql security updates | 16:02 |
| yofel | c2tarun: huh? it is there | 16:02 |
| apachelogger | debfx: that is what I said... a fully qualified mysql | 16:02 |
| yofel | c2tarun: I uploaded it after all, and it shows it as building here | 16:02 |
| yofel | c2tarun: but it's not built yet | 16:02 |
| c2tarun | yofel: nope, I am not saying about that, see on the page some guy PhilipMuskovac took it and uploaded it to pps | 16:03 |
| yofel | c2tarun: that's me :P | 16:03 |
| c2tarun | yofel: oh :) | 16:03 |
| c2tarun | yofel: yup, one more thing, how come some names are in hyperlink while some are not? | 16:04 |
| yofel | c2tarun: because I have a wiki page under my name, the wiki auto-links that | 16:05 |
| yofel | brb | 16:06 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: did we rebuild pyqt with new python? | 16:06 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Needs to be updated from Debian in any case. | 16:07 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: PyQt or Python? | 16:07 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: PyQt4. | 16:16 |
| debfx | apachelogger: copying a binary so it runs in an apparmor profile seems just wrong | 16:23 |
| yofel | c2tarun: kdebase published | 16:24 |
| debfx | apachelogger: maybe we could write a wrapper script that just calls mysqld and create a apparmor profile for that script | 16:25 |
| Riddell | nigelb: your socket has 5 holes! | 16:25 |
| apachelogger | debfx: that does not help, the mysql binary would then be locked by apparmor | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | meaning that its profile would need permissions to write to $HOMES | 16:26 |
| ScottK | debfx: jdstrand tells it may be possible to get away from this now, but it'd take some research. | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | which is even more wrong | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: we should just ignore upstream advise and use sqlite :P | 16:27 |
| debfx | apachelogger: we'd write a subprofile in the wrapper script apparmor profile | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | I do not compute | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | a profile for what? | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | mysqld? | 16:28 |
| debfx | apachelogger: something like http://paste.kde.org/6305/ | 16:29 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: you have adaptors from UK to India? | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | debfx: it scares the hell out of me, but if you wish to give it a try... | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: probably... | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | lemme see | 16:30 |
| yofel | kdeedu uploaded | 16:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/b9ztX.jpg | 16:33 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: nifty. yes that'll do | 16:34 |
| GrueMaster | So, does anyone in kubuntu have armel hardware to work with? | 16:35 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: how many do you want? | 16:36 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: just one | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | ah ok... i'll get this one then | 16:38 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: but i'd recommend bringing more, other people may not have adapters | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | sure | 16:38 |
| shadeslayer | i think i have one more lying around that's free | 16:38 |
| Riddell | GrueMaster: ScottK has some machines, agateau has an arm netbook | 16:38 |
| nigelb | Riddell: the 5 is for different types of plugs ;) | 16:38 |
| Riddell | nigelb: different types of plugs.... | 16:39 |
| Riddell | what sort of different types of plugs? | 16:39 |
| GrueMaster | Ok. Just wanted someone to know that the Alpha 3 image failed to run. | 16:39 |
| Riddell | GrueMaster: thanks for testing | 16:39 |
| nigelb | Riddell: the 2 pins can be big or small, that's why the 4 sets of holes | 16:39 |
| shadeslayer | yep ^^ | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | but don't worry | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | the one i showed you has only 2 pins at the front | 16:40 |
| shadeslayer | so it'll plug into post of the sockets | 16:40 |
| nigelb | yeah, plug in a convertor and you should be all good | 16:41 |
| bambee | GrueMaster: which image did you test ? | 16:42 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: btw do you have a spare SD Card? | 16:42 |
| GrueMaster | Both the 301 and the 303 images on panda. | 16:42 |
| nigelb | shadeslayer: I can look around. for camera? | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: micro sd | 16:43 |
| bambee | GrueMaster: panda ? | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: i have something planned that invlolves Kubuntu and my Phone :P | 16:43 |
| nigelb | ouch, no micro sd | 16:43 |
| GrueMaster | omap4 | 16:43 |
| bambee | ok | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | nigelb: yeah ... | 16:43 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: Nightrose needs one of your adaptors | 16:43 |
| GrueMaster | http://www.pandaboard.org | 16:43 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: no problemo | 16:44 |
| nigelb | just make sure you have at least 2 | 16:44 |
| shadeslayer | i'll get as many as i can find ... will scavenge on the weekend | 16:44 |
| Nightrose | shadeslayer: what kinda magic to you have? | 16:44 |
| Riddell | Nightrose: http://i.imgur.com/b9ztX.jpg | 16:44 |
| Nightrose | thx | 16:45 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 16:45 |
| * Nightrose would really love if we could all just use the same... | 16:45 | |
| Riddell | yes, the world would be much better if everyone did the sensible thing and used British power sockets | 16:46 |
| Nightrose | hehe | 16:46 |
| tazz | Riddell, you might want to lurk in #kde-in for a week or so :p | 16:49 |
| shadeslayer | yeah :D | 16:49 |
| tazz | yes and we would all love if the entire world drove on the left hand side too... | 16:50 |
| tazz | :p | 16:50 |
| debfx | apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/6308/ seems to work fine | 16:53 |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/MSMQSD#HTC_Desire | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | i should try this out | 16:56 |
| shadeslayer | over the weekend | 16:57 |
| markey | Riddell: Ryan Paul == segphault | 16:59 |
| markey | on IRC | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | thanks markey | 16:59 |
| markey | however, note that Ars has its own IRC server | 16:59 |
| markey | he is not often on Freenode | 16:59 |
| shadeslayer | yep | 16:59 |
| markey | go to #linux on their server | 17:00 |
| shadeslayer | i'm on the ars irc server too ;] | 17:00 |
| markey | yeah | 17:00 |
| markey | DrPizza is there too (Peter Bright) | 17:00 |
| markey | he is fairly bright | 17:00 |
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| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you should rather port flipping kubuntu mobile to it | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | debfx: cool | 17:18 |
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| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i need a 4 GB micro sd card to do that | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | i don't have one of those | 17:24 |
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| shadeslayer | markey: there's talk of the N950 | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | sudo: aptitude: command not found : for a moment i went wtf | 17:35 |
| yofel | ^^ | 17:36 |
| ScottK | GrueMaster: I don't have any machines that will (yet) work with a Natty image. | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | aptitude shall go die | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: get one then | 17:40 |
| apachelogger | I did not have one either ^^ | 17:40 |
| * apachelogger wonders how to add a qml to an android apk | 17:40 | |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: the qt install app thing doesn't work | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | not for me and Quintasan it doesn't | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: hm? | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | what qt install app? | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: try installing ministro | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | worked just fine here | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | what | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | but my qml does not get installed, or at least it cannot find it at runtime | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so you mean to say | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | that the app runs, and downloads Qt libs? | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | aye | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | O_O | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | my app runs actually | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | it just doesnt have much of a ui ^^ | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | for some reason, i can't get it to complete here | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | just as I suspected, the qml is not in the apk | 17:41 |
| apachelogger | cause you people have shitty devices, that is why :P | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 17:42 |
| shadeslayer | it just quits when trying to search for the libs | 17:42 |
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| jussi | shadeslayer: I found a fix - or most of one anyway | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | kewl :D | 17:49 |
| jussi | Need to update the intel driver | 17:49 |
| jussi | it appears much faster now - though cube fails big time. | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 17:51 |
| jussi | oh, wait, it works! I just was pressing the erong thing' | 17:51 |
| jussi | wrong | 17:51 |
| jussi | :D | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | haha | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: tried from xorg edgers | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | ? | 17:52 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: no, I grabbed from ppa:glasen/intel-driver | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:53 |
| jussi | hrm, how do I add more desktops ? | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: xorg edgers is better | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: see the desktop switching thingy below | 17:53 |
| jussi | shadeslayer: yeah, but they update that loads | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | right click on that | 17:53 |
| jussi | oh lol, thats easy | 17:53 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: use activities | 17:54 |
| jussi | ? | 17:54 |
| shadeslayer | kubotu: google kde activities | 17:54 |
| kubotu | Results for kde activities: 1. How to Use KDE Plasma Activities: http://maketecheasier.com/use-kde-plasma-activities/2010/09/01 | 2. What's KDE Activities? (Page 1) / Applications & Desktop ...: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=72520 | 3. Plasma - KDE UserBase: http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma | 17:54 |
| Riddell | yofel: how would you fancy handling the 4.6.1 release tomorrow? | 18:00 |
| yofel | what needs to be done? | 18:01 |
| Riddell | yofel: ensure it's been tested for natty and maverick | 18:01 |
| Riddell | copy maverick packages to kubuntu-ppa/backports | 18:01 |
| Riddell | test again | 18:01 |
| Riddell | announce on kubuntu.org | 18:01 |
| yofel | I can do the first parts - but I'm clueless about how to announce it | 18:02 |
| Riddell | ah, well you can practice with the alpha 3 announce if you want :) | 18:02 |
| bambee | polkit-kde-1 crash reported | 18:04 |
| bambee | (additionnal informations and backtrace in attachment) | 18:04 |
| Riddell | yofel: when you see the alpha 3 announce on ubuntu-devel-announce you can publish https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/natty-alpha-3 | 18:04 |
| Riddell | Edit -> publishing options -> published and promoted to front page | 18:05 |
| yofel | ok, just managed to log in (I think..) | 18:05 |
| Riddell | for 4.6.1 Create Content -> News copy and paste and update the 4.6.0 story | 18:06 |
| Riddell | yofel: then you need to find someone to upload the packages to natty | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | groovy | 18:07 |
| apachelogger | samegame is slightly b0rked ^^ | 18:07 |
| Riddell | Kate Stewart ( 70) [ubuntu-release] Natty Alpha 3 Released! | 18:07 |
| Riddell | yofel: go go publishing! | 18:07 |
| shadeslayer | !find landscape-sysinfo | 18:07 |
| ubottu | File landscape-sysinfo found in landscape-common | 18:07 |
| yofel | ok, let's see.. | 18:08 |
| sheytan | Hey yo | 18:09 |
| yofel | Riddell: seems to have worked | 18:09 |
| Riddell | lovely | 18:10 |
| Riddell | yofel: so do you think you can handle 4.6.1 tomorrow? | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | i can help with that tomorrow | 18:11 |
| Riddell | great | 18:12 |
| Riddell | bambee: language-selector uploaded thanks | 18:14 |
| yofel | I think I'll manage | 18:15 |
| bambee | Riddell: thanks :) | 18:15 |
| debfx | Riddell: could you have a look at bug #728584 and grant a FFe if required :) | 18:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 728584 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "Use a wrapper script instead of copying mysqld" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728584 | 18:15 |
| sheytan | Will kubuntu natty installer support upgrading? | 18:16 |
| sheytan | like this https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1LZHwrTTPDA/TW_FFxglw0I/AAAAAAAAZDQ/BQRi3-8bII4/s1600/instaltor.png | 18:16 |
| * shadeslayer asked that about a day ago | 18:16 | |
| shadeslayer | yet to recieve a answer :P | 18:16 |
| debfx | Riddell: jdstrand has reviewed the apparmor bits | 18:17 |
| Riddell | debfx: approved (in principle, I haven't tested it) | 18:17 |
| debfx | Riddell: do you want to test it before I upload the package? | 18:18 |
| bambee | apachelogger: around ? just for a technical advise | 18:20 |
| shadeslayer | he's probably playing with his new tablet | 18:21 |
| bambee | ohhh I did not know that, no problems :) | 18:21 |
| * yofel gets that akonadi patch into neon | 18:23 | |
| shadeslayer | i hear akonadi, patch and neon | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | impossible | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: how are we going to maintain a patch against trunk KDE O_O | 18:24 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: erm... we already mess with apparmor there - so can't get worse | 18:24 |
| shadeslayer | yikes | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | true that | 18:25 |
| bambee | by the way I propose myself for kde 4.6.1 natty testing | 18:25 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: apparmor is the root of our akonadi issues, can't really do much about it | 18:25 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 18:25 |
| yofel | well, one of them | 18:26 |
| yofel | bambee: you'll need ninja permissions for that currently | 18:27 |
| Riddell | we can fix that | 18:28 |
| Riddell | bambee: what's your launchpad username? | 18:28 |
| bambee | aahhh... effectively... | 18:28 |
| bambee | Riddell: bambi (remember scrubs :P) | 18:29 |
| maco | does that show exist in his country? | 18:29 |
| Riddell | only if you own a telly | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | oh wow | 18:29 |
| bambee | maco: sure, scrubs , "how I met your mother" and other great series :) | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: even on lp? | 18:29 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: dude we should totally meet | 18:30 |
| maco | but..that's american tv | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | maco: so? | 18:30 |
| Riddell | bambee: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | we have scrubs here too :P | 18:30 |
| bambee | shadeslayer: sure :) | 18:30 |
| bambee | shadeslayer: not this UDS... but the next one ? | 18:30 |
| shadeslayer | altho ... it lags a bit behind the american version | 18:30 |
| Riddell | maco: apparantly your country is good at exporting its culture | 18:31 |
| Riddell | now, who wants some Dr Who audio book CDs? | 18:31 |
| maco | Riddell: who would want to import it though? | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: yeah .. i can't attend this one too .... but before UDS P i might go to the Desktop Summit :P | 18:31 |
| shadeslayer | aw just audio? | 18:31 |
| bambee | maco: "that's american tv"... you know you've just to translate it ;) | 18:31 |
| bambee | it's fun in french :p | 18:31 |
| bambee | (mostly when JD dreams lol) | 18:32 |
| maco | my sentiment was more "ewww, american tv. brits do it better" | 18:32 |
| * shadeslayer just watches it in English | 18:32 | |
| bambee | Riddell: thanks | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | maco: yeah ... :D | 18:32 |
| maco | Riddell: what was that about Doctor Who? | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: btw i won't be arriving before tuesday | 18:32 |
| shadeslayer | like tuesday noon | 18:33 |
| bambee | shadeslayer: my last serie these days is "chuck" | 18:33 |
| bambee | morgan is my hero :P | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | bambee: i'm watching Scrubs/HIMYM/BBT | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | :P | 18:33 |
| bambee | mouarf | 18:33 |
| bambee | :) | 18:33 |
| shadeslayer | nph is awesome | 18:33 |
| apachelogger_ | shadeslayer: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/samegame-on-android.mp4 | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | *click* | 18:38 |
| shadeslayer | needs time to stream :( | 18:39 |
| * shadeslayer downloads | 18:39 | |
| === ulysses_ is now known as ulysses | ||
| bambee | shadeslayer: with luck... you will hear my frenchy accent :D | 18:39 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 18:40 |
| === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 | ||
| shadeslayer | apachelogger_: btw remember when you used to do webcasts | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | there was this site | 18:44 |
| apachelogger_ | what are webcasts? | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | :S | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | ah there we go | 18:45 |
| shadeslayer | ustream | 18:45 |
| * shadeslayer registers | 18:45 | |
| apachelogger_ | oh | 18:46 |
| apachelogger_ | well | 18:46 |
| apachelogger_ | utube ftw | 18:46 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger_: i can't stream stuff on youtube | 18:46 |
| apachelogger_ | oh | 18:47 |
| apachelogger_ | true | 18:47 |
| * bambee will get his ninja costume | 18:47 | |
| * apachelogger_ tries to deploy the qt flying bus onto android | 18:48 | |
| jonathan_ | Can I ask a question about PyQt4? PyQt4 apps don't run on my system, they error out on an undefined symbol in QtWebkit.so | 18:50 |
| apachelogger_ | the try thing is that you actually need to stuff everything in a qrc | 18:50 |
| === cmagina is now known as cmagina-lunch | ||
| apachelogger_ | otherwise it wont get deployed to android ^^ | 18:50 |
| apachelogger_ | ScottK: I am just going to upload the kernel as persia is not around to confirm that this is the correct approach | 18:51 |
| ScottK | apachelogger_: Great. If it builds, that's correct enough I think. | 18:51 |
| apachelogger_ | well | 18:52 |
| apachelogger_ | oh | 18:52 |
| apachelogger_ | idea | 18:52 |
| * apachelogger_ will upload as 3.1 | 18:52 | |
| bambee | jonathan_: could you paste an example on http://paste.ubuntu.com ? | 18:53 |
| apachelogger_ | should it not conduct an ABI check on 3.1 then we know that only abi changes must increment the main revision number ^^ | 18:53 |
| bambee | without output it won't help us ;) | 18:53 |
| apachelogger_ | why do I have a suffix actually? | 18:53 |
| === ferai is now known as jefferai | ||
| jonathan_ | bambee: sorry, I wasn't sure whether this was the right place to even ask the question | 18:54 |
| jonathan_ | bambee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575113/ | 18:54 |
| apachelogger_ | I am terrible at this game -.- | 18:55 |
| apachelogger_ | ha! | 18:55 |
| apachelogger_ | shadeslayer: qtflyingbus on android :D | 18:55 |
| jonathan_ | bambee: I've tried rebuilding the python-qt4 package from source on my system and it doesn't help | 18:56 |
| JontheEchidna | http://i.imgur.com/xQ6Fp.png <- I think the file isn't declaring its mimetype | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | still downloading | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: that's a bad bad file | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | someone should spank it | 18:56 |
| shadeslayer | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | Length: 18996632 (18M) [video/mp4] | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | looks fine here | 18:57 |
| bambee | jonathan_: which release ? on natty ? | 18:57 |
| bambee | or maverick ? | 18:57 |
| JontheEchidna | then it's chromium fail | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | JontheEchidna: bad bad chromium | 18:57 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 18:57 |
| yofel | bambee: looks like maverick, but I find it odd that a rebuild doesn't help | 18:58 |
| bambee | yofel: yup on natty it works fine here | 18:58 |
| jonathan_ | bambee: yes, its maverick | 18:58 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger_: kool | 18:59 |
| jonathan_ | bambee: sorry, I have to leave --- my mum got stuck in her car and needs help ;-) | 19:00 |
| yofel | jonathan_: pyqt4 version? | 19:00 |
| yofel | ah, sure ^^ | 19:00 |
| bambee | jonathan_: sure ^^ | 19:01 |
| * c2tarun taking sip4 | 19:02 | |
| yofel | c2tarun: we don't backport that | 19:03 |
| yofel | I'll mark it blocked again on the wiki, sry | 19:03 |
| c2tarun | yofel: why? | 19:03 |
| yofel | c2tarun: try to build it, have fun, you'll need to fix maverick python3 first | 19:03 |
| yofel | that's why we're stuck on kdebindings 4.6 RC1 | 19:04 |
| c2tarun | yofel: hmm.... and natty even have only python 2.7.1 and no python 3. is python3 available soomewhere? | 19:05 |
| yofel | c2tarun: python3 is installable since quite a while ago, python 2.7.1 is just the default | 19:06 |
| c2tarun | yofel: no getting, what do you mean by installable? its out there in upstream but we don't have that in archives? | 19:06 |
| yofel | c2tarun: it's in the archive | 19:07 |
| yofel | !info python3 | 19:07 |
| ubottu | python3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is optional. Version 3.1.3-3ubuntu5~really3.1.2 (maverick), package size 33 kB, installed size 268 kB | 19:07 |
| c2tarun | yofel: python and python are not related? ( I mean is python3 newer version of python?) | 19:08 |
| c2tarun | yofel: python and python3 are not related? ( I mean is python3 newer version of python?) | 19:08 |
| yofel | c2tarun: python3 is a major new release with quite a lot changes, we're sticking to python2 for now, and using 2.7.1 as default in natty, but you can install python3 | 19:09 |
| yofel | c2tarun: also, you can have more than one python version installed at the same time, like 2.5, 2.6, 2.7, 3.1 and 3.2 | 19:09 |
| c2tarun | yofel: ok, and you are saying that for sip4 or kdebindings we need python3? | 19:10 |
| yofel | c2tarun: sip4 builds it's modules for both python 2 and python 3 - and the maverick python 3 debhelper scripts are broken | 19:10 |
| c2tarun | yofel: broken? means | 19:11 |
| apachelogger_ | bambee: welcome to the ninjas :D | 19:11 |
| yofel | sip fails to build | 19:11 |
| yofel | it compiles fine, but the package isn't being created correctly | 19:11 |
| yofel | and without natty sip backported we can't backport newer kdebindings, so we're stuck there | 19:12 |
| Trouble | Is 4.6.1 for Maverick ready for testing in ninjas? | 19:12 |
| yofel | Trouble: it is | 19:12 |
| * yofel does an installation test | 19:12 | |
| Trouble | Win! I'm gonna go get myself some of that action... | 19:13 |
| c2tarun | yofel: hmm... .so if you guys are stuck, there is no point tryin any hand on it :/ is there any other pacakge work pending? | 19:13 |
| yofel | c2tarun: not really, now we need to test if things work | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | ok night guys | 19:13 |
| shadeslayer | cya tomorrow | 19:13 |
| yofel | nini shadeslayer | 19:13 |
| c2tarun | gn shadeslayer :) | 19:13 |
| c2tarun | yofel: test what? | 19:14 |
| === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina | ||
| yofel | c2tarun: install 4.6.1 on our systems and see if anything went wrong during packaging - ok, we can't test everything, but at least look for obvious erros | 19:15 |
| yofel | *errors | 19:15 |
| bambee | apachelogger_: thanks :D | 19:15 |
| bambee | I did it! I'm a ninja :p | 19:16 |
| c2tarun | yofel: on my system or on chroot? | 19:16 |
| bambee | :) | 19:16 |
| yofel | oh yeah, welcome bambee ^^ | 19:16 |
| c2tarun | congrats bambee | 19:16 |
| c2tarun | :) | 19:16 |
| yofel | c2tarun: chroot is ok to check if things install (I'm doing that currently) - but we'll need real installations to check if things work | 19:16 |
| yofel | c2tarun: and by now it shouldn't break your system, if it does we have a problem | 19:17 |
| c2tarun | yofel: I'll install a separate copy of kubuntu and test packages there as well but first I need to know how testing works :( how can I look for packages that needs testing? | 19:18 |
| yofel | c2tarun: erm, just add the ppa on your system and update? | 19:18 |
| c2tarun | yofel: which ppa? | 19:18 |
| yofel | as we need to check if updating from 4.6.0 to 4.6.1 will break anything - as that's what a lot of users will be doing tomorrow | 19:19 |
| yofel | ninjas | 19:19 |
| c2tarun | yofel: ok, I have that sorry to ask this but what is 4.6.0 I mean name of the application? | 19:19 |
| yofel | c2tarun: that's assuming you have kubuntu-ppa/backports already added and use 4.6.0 | 19:19 |
| yofel | c2tarun: kde 4.6.0 release, after all we packaged all of kde now - so you'll update the parts you have installed | 19:20 |
| c2tarun | yofel: by kde you mean just the desktop environment? so I need to install kde 4.6.0 on my chroot and than I have to update it? | 19:21 |
| === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube | ||
| yofel | c2tarun: I'm not sure if chroot is worth it - I'm doing chroot upgrade tests, and I'm fast doing that, real maverick tests would be more helpful (if you have a spare installation that's using kde 4.6) | 19:22 |
| bambee | Error: can't find signing_key_fingerprint at https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa o_O | 19:22 |
| * Trouble has *full* confidence in the Kubuntu devs and is updating his live installation! | 19:22 | |
| bambee | (using add-apt-repository) | 19:22 |
| yofel | bambee: add-apt-repostory doesn't work with private ppas | 19:22 |
| bambee | ohh I did not know | 19:23 |
| bambee | good to know | 19:23 |
| c2tarun | bambee: add it directly to /etc/apt/sources.list | 19:23 |
| * yofel uses natty and can't test maverick ^^ | 19:23 | |
| bambee | ok | 19:23 |
| yofel | bambee: follow the instructions on the ppa page | 19:23 |
| Trouble | Hmm kernel updates too, brb - rebooting | 19:23 |
| c2tarun | yofel: I am using maverick right now but I'll also get a separate installation of kubuntu maverick. than what I have to do? | 19:24 |
| yofel | c2tarun: add kubuntu-ppa/backports to install 4.6.0, then add the ninjas ppa, install all updates and check if everything still works right | 19:24 |
| c2tarun | yofel: sure I'll do that :) | 19:25 |
| yofel | natty seems to work fine so far for me | 19:25 |
| c2tarun | yofel: all we need to test, no fixing or upgrade work left now? | 19:26 |
| yofel | c2tarun: for now we're done with packaging yep | 19:26 |
| yofel | c2tarun: oh right - are you on the kde-packagers mailing list yet? | 19:26 |
| c2tarun | yofel: nope | 19:26 |
| yofel | you'll have to file a sysadmin request for that, let me get the right place | 19:27 |
| apachelogger_ | shadeslayer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od5iqxwvRJc | 19:28 |
| c2tarun | apachelogger_: shadeslayer slept I guess.. | 19:28 |
| apachelogger_ | he always sleeps | 19:29 |
| apachelogger_ | he is weak | 19:29 |
| yofel | c2tarun: go to https://bugs.kde.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=sysadmin&format=guided choose 'mailinglists' as component, say that you're packaging for kubuntu and that they should please add you do the kde-packagers mailing list | 19:29 |
| yofel | needs to be done like that since the mailing list is as secret as our ninjas :P | 19:29 |
| * apachelogger_ needs to do somnething about his suffix | 19:29 | |
| apachelogger_ | apachelogger_: suffix go away! | 19:29 |
| yofel | but you'll get notified of new releases that need packaging there, and discussions about issues with the sources | 19:29 |
| apachelogger_ | apachelogger_: hello?!?!?!!? | 19:29 |
| apachelogger_ | meh | 19:29 |
| apachelogger_ | do I have to do everything myself -.- | 19:30 |
| === apachelogger_ is now known as apachelogger | ||
| c2tarun | yofel: ok, I need a new account for that or LP one will do? | 19:30 |
| yofel | c2tarun: no, you'll need a kde bugzilla account | 19:30 |
| c2tarun | yofel: ok | 19:30 |
| yofel | useful to have anyway if you plan on sticking around | 19:30 |
| c2tarun | yofel: ok I filed the bug for joining mailing list :) | 19:36 |
| bambee | kde 4.6.1 <3 | 19:50 |
| bambee | :D | 19:50 |
| bambee | no just kde <3 | 19:51 |
| * Trouble <3 apachelogger > KDE | 19:53 | |
| bambee | apachelogger: you won a fan :P | 19:54 |
| bambee | ;) | 19:54 |
| JontheEchidna | lol: d->m_oauth->setConsumerSecret("hammertime"); | 19:55 |
| Trouble | apachelogger has a whole bunch of fans... https://launchpad.net/~we-love-harald | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | yay, more fans :) | 19:57 |
| * apachelogger hugs Trouble | 19:57 | |
| apachelogger | meh | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: kernel build starts in 5 hrs | 20:05 |
| ScottK | :-) | 20:05 |
| ScottK | If you'd got it done before Alpha 3 was out, we'd have been in business. | 20:05 |
| apachelogger | ah, now I am to blame :P | 20:06 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: I'm sure somehow it's shadeslayer's fault for distracting you. | 20:07 |
| apachelogger | *nod* | 20:08 |
| apachelogger | oh | 20:08 |
| apachelogger | groovy | 20:08 |
| apachelogger | pkg-kde-tools cannot depend on gcc-4.4 on arm only because it is arch:all | 20:08 |
| apachelogger | great | 20:08 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: suggestions? | 20:09 |
| ScottK | What'd we do for qt4-x11? | 20:10 |
| ScottK | Do that again. | 20:10 |
| ScottK | It can depend on it all arch, but only use it in debian/rules on armel. | 20:10 |
| ScottK | arch/archs | 20:11 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: ^^^ | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | oh | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | good point | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | lets do that | 20:11 |
| apachelogger | now I just need to find out which of the 300 mk files we have will be most useful to change :S | 20:12 |
| * apachelogger is next to clueless how to do this in darth dh7 | 20:25 | |
| JontheEchidna | Muon needs a nifty background image like the one USC has: http://i.imgur.com/BFCHu.png | 20:34 |
| apachelogger | very much so | 20:43 |
| apachelogger | in general it needs a more visual touch IMHO | 20:44 |
| apachelogger | the UI looks a bit mechanical :) | 20:44 |
| JontheEchidna | I think not using the regular grey background is a step in the right direction | 20:46 |
| JontheEchidna | Switching is also good since that means I can get rid of the horizontal separator below the breadcrumb, since if you have windeco separators enabled in Oxygen it looks weird | 20:47 |
| JontheEchidna | plus I can now use a grey font in the review widget: http://i.imgur.com/cf0ZB.png | 20:51 |
| JontheEchidna | and the screenshot fade-in is a bit more obvious now | 20:51 |
| jonathan_ | yofel: mum saved, mission accomplished :-), can I return with my question about PyQt? Its python-qt4-4.8.1-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa2 | 20:52 |
| * yofel takes a look at the crash again | 20:54 | |
| bambee | yofel: python-qt4-4.8.3 is not backported for maverick ? | 20:58 |
| yofel | no, needs new sip which would need us to fix dh_python3 first | 20:59 |
| bambee | (maybe it was fixed in 4.8.2 or 4.8.3) | 20:59 |
| bambee | ok | 20:59 |
| yofel | I think at least | 21:00 |
| yofel | yep - Depends: python-sip-dev (>= 4.12.1) but it is not going to be installed. | 21:02 |
| jjesse | with the release nof natty alpha 3 will it install now on my virtualbox amd64? | 21:02 |
| bambee | jjesse: normally it should (it worked just fine on virtualbox this morning) | 21:04 |
| bambee | and it was tested | 21:04 |
| bambee | (by many people) | 21:05 |
| yofel | jonathan_: I won't have time to look at this in-depth today (esp. since I don't have a maverick system to test this on here) - if bambee doesn't have any ideas you should file a bug on https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ so it's not forgotten | 21:06 |
| jjesse | will it would be the first time in a long long time that i've gotten an amd64 build to run | 21:06 |
| jonathan_ | sure, thanks for the effort anyway :-) | 21:06 |
| bambee | yofel: wait | 21:12 |
| bambee | _ZN16QGraphicsWebView20setResizesToContentsEb => it looks to QGraphicsWebview which is a valid class right ? | 21:13 |
| bambee | QGraphicsWebview.setResizesToContents() | 21:13 |
| bambee | I find it in qt 4.7 but not in qt 4.6 | 21:14 |
| yofel | 4.6? he's using maverick, not lucid, maverick has 4.7 | 21:15 |
| bambee | I can confirm, it's not in qt 4.6 | 21:15 |
| bambee | so wtf ? | 21:15 |
| yofel | er, also webkit is a bit complicated | 21:15 |
| yofel | !info libqtwebkit4 | 21:15 |
| ubottu | libqtwebkit4 (source: qtwebkit-source): Web content engine library for Qt. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 4686 kB, installed size 18544 kB | 21:15 |
| bambee | jonathan_: paste readelf -d /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/PyQt4/QtWebKit.so | grep NEEDED | 21:17 |
| bambee | please | 21:17 |
| bambee | jonathan_: still here ? | 21:23 |
| bambee | does the following command returns something : objdump -T /usr/lib/libQtWebKit.so | grep _ZN16QGraphicsWebView20setResizesToContentsEb ? | 21:24 |
| ulysses | where can be the new language selector kcm translated? | 21:28 |
| jonathan_ | bambee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575197/ | 21:29 |
| jonathan_ | bambee: the objdump command prints "00a58740 g DF .text 00000032 Base _ZN16QGraphicsWebView20setResizesToContentsEb" | 21:30 |
| bambee | apachelogger: an idea ? | 21:32 |
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| apachelogger | I shall have context plz | 21:36 |
| yofel | apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575113/ | 21:37 |
| apachelogger | well | 21:38 |
| apachelogger | symbol mismatch | 21:38 |
| apachelogger | obviously :) | 21:38 |
| apachelogger | pyqt was built against a different version of the qtwebkit ABI | 21:39 |
| bambee | so it's an ABI imcompatibility ? | 21:39 |
| bambee | incompatibility * | 21:39 |
| apachelogger | most likely | 21:39 |
| apachelogger | pyqt likes to have those | 21:39 |
| bambee | aarrff | 21:39 |
| apachelogger | Dependency is not satisfiable: python-scour | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | gaw | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | d | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | I hate it so much | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | .... | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | !find libvlc4 lucid | 21:44 |
| ubottu | Package/file libvlc4 does not exist in lucid | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | !info libvlc4 lucid | 21:44 |
| ubottu | Package libvlc4 does not exist in lucid | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | silly me | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | omg | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | !info vlc lucid | 21:44 |
| ubottu | vlc (source: vlc): multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1ubuntu1.5 (lucid), package size 1599 kB, installed size 3792 kB | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | lololo | 21:44 |
| apachelogger | valorie: unless there is vlc 1.1.1 in the backporties there aint is gonna be no phonon vlc backport not | 21:45 |
| bambee | ulysses: we should ask to translate teams, I guess | 21:48 |
| bambee | there is a way to make a global request to each translate team ? | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | Could not find compiler set in environment variable CC: | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | yourmotha. | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | I like it when a plan comes together | 21:49 |
| apachelogger | \o/ | 21:49 |
| bambee | \o/ | 21:49 |
| valorie | OMG y'all have mad skillz! | 21:51 |
| jonathan_ | bambee: I have filed it as a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/+bug/728701, is that o.k.? | 21:51 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 728701 in Kubuntu PPA "PyQt4 applications fail to start (including python plasma widgets)" [Undecided,New] | 21:51 |
| jonathan_ | bambee: is there anything else I can do (I am fine with just giving up :-) ) | 21:51 |
| valorie | cookies for everybody (shadeslayer*) who put Amarok 2.4 in lucid backports! | 21:52 |
| valorie | can vlc 1.1.1 be put into backports? | 21:52 |
| bambee | jonathan_: 4.10.5 ? | 21:52 |
| valorie | I see it isn't, but can it be? | 21:52 |
| * valorie ups the offer to cookies AND MILK | 21:53 | |
| valorie | so our LTS users can haz backends too | 21:53 |
| apachelogger | that is for the backports team to decide | 21:55 |
| apachelogger | generally it can, whether that is a good idea or not is another question | 21:56 |
| valorie | ok | 21:57 |
| jonathan_ | bambee: 4.10.5 what? | 21:57 |
| valorie | breakages and such are bad | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: Uploading pkg-kde-tools_0.9.3ubuntu7_source.changes: done. | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | that should force gcc 4.4 | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | or so I hope | 21:57 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Cool. | 21:57 |
| apachelogger | at least it breaks your CC var ^^ | 21:58 |
| * apachelogger moves on to breaking his tablet | 21:58 | |
| ScottK | apachelogger: How about CXX? | 22:02 |
| apachelogger | that too | 22:03 |
| * apachelogger is very successfull today | 22:03 | |
| apachelogger | tablet does not boot no moar | 22:03 |
| ScottK | OK. Just checking. | 22:03 |
| ScottK | A large hammer could either fix it or at least have your frustrations vented about it. | 22:04 |
| apachelogger | I do not own such a device :( | 22:08 |
| ScottK | Generally there are field expedient substitutes around. | 22:09 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 22:11 |
| * apachelogger tries a different rootf | 22:11 | |
| apachelogger | s | 22:11 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: since you are custom rom master ... is there a way to debug booting? | 22:12 |
| * apachelogger finds his bootloader here rather unverbose | 22:13 | |
| * debfx is going to break akonadi now | 22:13 | |
| JontheEchidna | it was broken anyways :P | 22:15 |
| apachelogger | ..by design... | 22:16 |
| nixternal | apachelogger: yes, logcat | 22:52 |
| nixternal | if the phone is rooted of course, you can boot into recovery, connect via adb, logcat, then start it up. umm, best to use eclipse to be honest for debugging | 22:53 |
| apachelogger | nixternal: thx will try | 23:07 |
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