=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [00:12] hello [00:12] anyone in here? [00:22] well yes [00:22] there are people here, your irc client should give you an indication of that [00:23] if not i suggest trying quassel or konversation =) === jono_ is now known as jono === che is now known as Guest20129 === Guest20129 is now known as kereltis [00:57] Hi all. Am I the only one suffering from momentary freezes in kde 4.6? Any ideas on how to solve? [00:58] dundee.. i think it is because of Nepomuk service [00:59] atalay: I turned that off and the problem still persists. [01:00] well.. then maybe because of Akonadi then.. because i had some problem like yours with previous versions of KDE just because of Akonadi.. But i dont know how to solve your problem. sorry. [01:01] atalay: ok. thanks [01:01] Hi all. Am I the only one suffering from momentary freezes in kde 4.6? Any ideas on how to solve? === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway [01:11] Hi all. Am I the only one suffering from momentary freezes in kde 4.6? Any ideas on how to solve? [01:20] Anyone with any ideas why kde 4.6 freezes momentarily on Dell studio? [01:34] dundee: what does top say [01:38] I need help with getting Banshee playing mp3 files. I just finished a re-install of my os etc and when I try to play an mp3 file, it doesn't work... [01:40] dthacker: when I check the processors are at low percentages and the memory. I am wondering if its a problem with the intel graphics driver [01:42] dundee: that's frustrating, I'm sure. I'd look on launchpad for bugs that have to do with your video setup. [01:42] JuJuBee: what error do you receive when you try to play an mp3? [01:43] dthacker: Yes it is very frustrating. I tried everything I can think of. [01:45] dthacker: the song gets a red x on it rather than play it. Amarok plays it fine though [01:47] JuJuBee: If amarok plays mp3's, you probably have the proper codecs loaded. I'm not familiar with Banshee, is it possible that the Banshee sound backend is not configured properly? [01:48] JuJuBee: here's a url that may help. YMMV http://forum.foresightlinux.org/index.php?topic=445.0 [01:51] JuJuBee: this forum thread may also be helpful. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1319548 [01:58] JuJuBee/dthacker: as a gnome app nanshee will probably use different mp3 codec packages; my guess would be gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly [01:59] brothers [01:59] i downloaded a driver for my laptop with a RUN extension [01:59] s/nanshee/banshee/ [01:59] how i run that? [02:00] Thanks, I will look at them when I get a few minutes... [02:09] can any1 help? [02:10] how to use file wirh RUN extension? [02:11] shady_: try setting it as executable and running it [02:13] u mean deb? [02:13] i did but it says corrupted [02:14] shady_: ...no, I mean set it as executable and run it [02:14] chmod +x file.run && ./file.run [02:16] morn all [02:19] i put that line in konsole? [02:19] open konsole, navigate to the directory with that file in, then run that [02:19] changing "file" for the actual filename obviously [02:20] k [02:26] sry but how i navigate [02:26] it's in a partition called silent room? [02:27] cd /path/to/direcotry [02:27] directory* [02:27] you can also open the directory in the file manager and do tools > open terminal [02:27] which will open konsole in that folder [02:27] might be easier [02:31] i'm trying to install kubuntu alongside vista, but the installer doesn't give me the option to resize the vista partition and gparted doesn't seem to want to resize it either. How to I get kubuntu to install for dual boot? [02:32] didn't work [02:33] says no such file [02:41] guys any help here will be appreciated [02:41] shady_: Are you in the Konsole window? [02:42] yea [02:42] sry am nab [02:42] Are you in the same directory as the file in question? [02:43] yep [02:43] i shortened the name of the file too [02:43] When you enter the "ls" command you should be able to see the file. Can you? [02:44] yep [02:44] What is the name of the file? [02:44] nvidia [02:44] Enter the command below [02:44] chmod +x nvidia [02:45] What response did you get from that command ^ ? [02:45] is there a space or something [02:45] chmod{space}+x{space}nvidia [02:46] no us [02:46] no use brother [02:46] t says no such file or directory [02:46] WTF does that mean? [02:46] Okay [02:46] Try this then [02:47] ls nvidia [02:47] mb cause i changed it's name [02:47] ok [02:47] What is the name of the file? [02:48] NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.12.run [02:48] it was this [02:48] Okay [02:48] i shortened it [02:48] That is very different [02:48] to nvidia [02:48] hey all. can anyone help me migrate public keys from putty to linux? [02:49] shady_: chmod +x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.12.run [02:49] shady_: Yes those are spaces between each part. [02:49] ok:_ [02:49] jcollierdavis: i'd resize the partition using a windows tool (i prefer EASEUS partition manager - free for home use) [02:50] shady_: What response did you get? [02:50] arrrghh thanks I'm heading that direction. gparted has the little yellow triangle which looks like an error but i can't see the description because it's off the bottom of the screen [02:51] cannot acsses [02:51] jcollierdavis: i've just had issues resizing ntfs partitions, and easeus' product worked great for me. [02:51] shady_: I have to go now. Hope someone else can help :( [02:51] am sry man [02:52] i consumed ur time [02:52] arrrghhh looks like i'm not going to try it that way. i'm setting it up for a friend who's not so computer savy [02:52] ty 4 help anyway [02:52] jcollierdavis: not going to try it what way...? the product i recommened works great. [02:52] jcollierdavis: there's always WUBI if you really are concerned. [02:52] not going to use gparted. [02:52] oh, yea that's fine. [02:53] will wubi do the dual boot correctly? [02:53] jcollierdavis: check out the easeus product. it's worked flawlessly for me on several machine. [02:53] machines* [02:53] jcollierdavis: WUBI isn't a true dual-boot... it carves out a section of the ntfs disk to use as its own. [02:53] not as good as a native install. [02:54] arrghhh i've never tried wubi but since this person's really good at messing up her computer i want it to be where she can't get to the windows super-easy [02:55] jcollierdavis: lol. i wouldn't use WUBI, just makes it easier if you don't want to reparition the drive. [02:55] arrghhh thx. don't know anything off the top of your head about making the dell boot disc from that stupid recovery partition? [02:56] jcollierdavis: i wouldn't touch that partition, if you can help it. [02:56] arrghhh yeah, especially on someone else's machine but there's supposedly a way to make a recovery disc with it [02:57] jcollierdavis: yes, usually you can recover completely from those partitions. i would leave it intact. [02:58] jcollierdavis: i would use that EASEUS product, shave off some space from the 'normal' win drive [02:58] arrrghhh Ok, here's my plan 1. make a 10gb partition in the normal drive. Boot the Kubuntu CD and install the / dir there and assign /home to the rest of the drive [02:59] jcollierdavis: 10gb is pretty small. you can do it, but there's going to be issues updating. i would carve out 20gb if you could. [03:00] arrrghh ok 20's fine [03:00] putting home on the regular partition would be ok you think? [03:01] sure [03:01] and would help if you ever need to blast anything out [03:01] having a separate /home. [03:01] that's have i have my personal machine minus the windows part [03:01] yea [03:01] it does make things easy if you need to start over. [03:02] arrrghh sweet. Ok, 1 make a 20g partition inside windows. 2. install kubuntu / there and /home on the other partition. [03:03] jcollierdavis: /home goes where? [03:03] i was thinking 20gb for all of linux. [03:03] on the windows part. so she can get to all her files. Won't it put it there and not format it? [03:03] i've done 10gb for ubuntu entirely, and it works ok - but updates are a nightmare. [03:04] jcollierdavis: oic. i'd just bind mount stuff in linux so it is seamless [03:04] arrrghh ok, i'll do that [03:05] jcollierdavis: fyi, you can tab complete names :P [03:05] so hit ar then tab ;) [03:05] arrrghhh: that's awesome [03:05] isn't it tho? :D [03:05] i <3 tab complete. [03:06] arrrghhh: it makes me so annoyed when i can't do it on my windows machine at work [03:06] lol you can fix that too [03:06] but that's kinda another topic [03:06] there is a way to enable tab complete in cmd on windows... [03:06] drove me nuts at work too ;) [03:09] arrrghhh: if i format the kubuntu partition ext3 then windows won't even see it right? [03:10] jcollierdavis: why not use ext4? but yes, windows won't see it at all. [03:10] i usually do bind mounts in fstab, so anything on the windows side is seamless on the (k)buntu side [03:11] arrrghhh: honestly, i don't know enough to know what the difference is [03:11] i'd just go with ext4. it's very stable. [03:13] i can help you create bind mounts too, they are awesome. makes the transition from windows to ubuntu much easier. [03:13] although that means the user data is still stored on windows, which you may not prefer. depends on the end-user. [03:14] arrrghhh: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=502420 [03:14] looks pretty straightforward [03:14] arrrghhh: all the user data in the same place is a good idea in this case i think [03:15] jcollierdavis: oh yea permant bind mounts are no biggie whatsoever. [03:15] just put 'em in fstab and forget about 'em :D [03:15] arrrghhh: it's in /etc/fstab ? [03:16] yes [03:16] that's where all mountpoints go. [03:16] (on boot) [03:18] easeus is installing now [03:18] ok that was fast [03:18] heh [03:19] so you'll just carve out the partition, then it'll reboot back to windows to do the dirty work - because the drive can't be mounted when it's doing its work. [03:20] arrrghhh: i made some empty space, about 20g, on the end of the drive [03:21] arrrghhh: should i just leave it empty and format with the kubuntu installer? [03:21] jcollierdavis: yes. [03:21] so long as it's raw space, kubuntu won't have an issue with it [03:21] it's an issue when there's no free space ;) [03:23] arrrghhh: it's rebooting, i guess to do the partition edit [03:23] jcollierdavis: yup. [03:24] arrrghhh: this is actually pretty simple isn't it? [03:24] jcollierdavis: eh, i try to make things simple. [03:24] no need to make things complicated. [03:24] arrrghhh: i'm going to put these steps on my blog [03:25] heh [03:25] arrrghhh: that partitioning went really fast [03:25] yea, that software is amazing. so surprised it's free. [03:29] arrrghhh: how long is the MS progress bar supposed to take? [03:30] jcollierdavis: eh? [03:30] arrrghhh: the green progress bar that scrolls by while windows is booting it's just been going for a while [03:30] jcollierdavis: did it repartition already? [03:31] arrrghhh: that part seemed pretty fast and it rebooted after. Now i'm looking at that green bar [03:31] jcollierdavis: hrm. i'm not sure tbh, that's a windows thing. [03:38] arrrghhh: i just put the kubuntu disc in and turned it off [03:39] eh? [03:39] you were in windows? [03:39] you should've put the disc in when the computer was off, and boot from the disc. [03:39] arrrghhh: the windows never loaded after the repartition [03:39] Oo [03:39] that's not good. [03:39] arrrghhh: so i just turned it off an dput the disc in [03:39] arrrghhh: i got the install side by side dialog now [03:40] ok? === Freejack is now known as Guest59262 [03:41] arrrghhh: looks like what i expected to see. i picked the empty space and manually specify partitions. [03:41] sounds good [03:41] arrrghhh: i'll use ext4 and mount point / [03:41] stupid question, where did you take the free space from? [03:41] arrrghhh: good ? [03:42] yea that's fine. [03:42] then /home as ext4 as well. [03:42] i'm trying to think if 10gb each is enough. [03:42] arrrghhh: the end of the windows partition [03:42] might want to make / 15gb and /home 5gb. [03:42] arrrghhh: if i put /home on the windows part then /home doesn't really matter right? 5gb is plenty i think too [03:42] jcollierdavis: hrm, that is correct. not sure why windows doesn't boot anymore... install ubuntu and it should pickup the win instsall. [03:43] jcollierdavis: i wouldn't put /home on the windows part. [03:43] i would just link the necessary stuff using bind mounts to the windows stuff [03:43] then it's transparent to the end-user, they see all the familiar stuff from windows. [03:43] arrrghhh: right but i can do that bind mount so the what's on the windows partition will 'appear' to be on the /home [03:44] indeed [03:44] i would do it in pieces personally [03:44] link music in windows to music folder in ubuntu [03:44] docs to docs [03:44] etc [03:45] arrrghhh: ok, here's my new partition: / is 17000mb ext4 and /home is 4998 ext4 on the very end where my previous unused space was [03:46] sounds good [03:46] arrrghhh: what about swap? [03:47] how much RAM does the machine have? [03:47] arrrghhh: idk. i looked at it when i was using my usb but don't recall [03:48] hrm [03:48] well it's kinda important. if there's a ton of RAM, swap can be fairly small. [03:48] arrrghhh: i could probably pull 750mb out if i needed to [03:49] if RAM is limited, rule of thumb is 2x RAM for swap. [03:49] arrrghhh: i'll go with 2 for safety then [03:50] k [03:50] arrrghhh: should i just delete my new partitions and start over, i didn't write them yet [03:50] kinda a fuzzy thing [03:50] yes, i would. [03:50] if you have 4gb of RAM, swap probably isn't needed and 1gb is fine. [03:50] but if you have 512mb of ram, 1gb swap is necessary... [03:50] it's confusing, and there's no "definitive" answer here. [03:52] arrrghhh: also depends if you have swap overcommit enabled or not [03:52] by default it is [03:53] but if you turn it off then you most definately need 2x the RAM to cover it [03:53] lol [03:53] to further confuse the issue. [03:53] yea, 2x is usually what i recommend unless there's 4gb+ RAM. [03:53] arrrghhh: ok, here's what i have now: 16500 for /, 4300 for /home and 1498 for swap [03:53] jcollierdavis: should be OK. [03:54] i usually have a smaller / than my /home [03:54] as only programs go in / [03:54] Mase_wk: what's the smallest / you recommend? [03:54] and all my data will go in /home [03:54] i didn't think less than 10gb was good for / [03:54] well i use 20Gb [03:54] plus, /home doesn't seem like it's going to be used on this machine. [03:54] but my nameserver has 2G :) [03:54] arrrghhh: true [03:54] jcollierdavis: you should be fine. [03:54] it depends on your usage [03:54] Mase_wk: indeed. [03:55] think i should just go with this? [03:55] you can change at a later date [03:55] resizing ext4 is trvial from a livecd [03:55] jcollierdavis: from what you've described, what you have setup should be fine. [03:56] Mase_wk: but there's no raw space once he's (or she's) done. [03:56] ok, i't writing now [03:56] it's writing now [03:56] Mase_wk: I've never used more than 7GB for / [03:56] arrrghhh: doesn't matter so long as both partitions aren't full. it's not like NTFS [03:56] So 10-15 should be pretty good [03:56] 7gb? how do you do updates Daskreech? [03:56] you only need space on one [03:57] Mase_wk: lol but that's the problem :P [03:57] arrrghhh: Pretty aggressively :) [03:57] Daskreech: yea... don't want to recommend that here... [03:57] arrrghhh: well then if she / he fills up both paritions i think it's pretty obvious at that stage you need a new disk :) [03:57] i think my personal machine only has 10 for / [03:57] arrrghhh: I'd put more obviously but just saying that it doesn't take like 50 GB [03:58] it's probably only 3/4th full [03:58] (Yes Windows 7 and MacOSX I'm talking about you) [03:58] plus ubuntu doesn't take hours to install [03:58] unless of course you are running a server with /var on / then you are going to want huuuuuuuuuuge / [03:59] jcollierdavis: Days for Windows [03:59] windows 7 isn't so bad [03:59] Daskreech: i just want to make sure they have some breathing room [03:59] tiny / makes for painful updates with /tmp... [03:59] arrrghhh: What's the machine being used for? [03:59] i heard that home wasn't going to be used? [03:59] Daskreech: doesn't seem like it will be. [03:59] a friend who's terrible with computers has lots of problems with virus, spyware etc on her windows [04:00] so i'll just make her use the kubuntu but keep files where they are [04:00] jcollierdavis: it installs faster than other Windows but still needs days to make it usable [04:00] it took 2 days so far just to get it to run [04:00] so many people don't realize that they don't really use computers for much anymore [04:01] I can install Kubuntu and be productive >before< it's finished installing [04:02] she barely does anything with this machine but internet and downloading pictures from her camera [04:03] yeah you can get by with anything for that. It's cheaper and safer (and more fun!) with linux [04:03] on another topic, what are KDE card decks for? There's some on kde-look [04:03] linky [04:03] ? [04:04] um, card games :) [04:04] jcollierdavis: I'm going to go with claydoh's suggestion but do you have a link to one? [04:04] that's what i thought. i'm don't use kubuntu much [04:05] you can install those from within KPatience now, don't even need to go to kde look anymore [04:05] http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=83&PHPSESSID=beb356224163a0bb6db2cf117e154c0f [04:08] all done, rebooting now [04:09] hope it all works! [04:09] the only thing i'm worried about is the stupid broadcom wireless drivers [04:10] heh [04:10] jcollierdavis: broadcom just recently made their drivers Free so hopefully that isn't an issue for much longer [04:10] those do suck. [04:10] Mase_wk: my neighbor has a new dell laptop, doesn't work _at all_ in linux. [04:10] i compiled drivers by hand, nothing worked. [04:11] i could get it to scan for networks, but it would never connect. really pissed me off, had to put him back on win7. [04:11] arrrghhh: at the moment... but given that they are now free they can be included in the kernel [04:11] can be [04:11] :P [04:11] yeh which means, at some stage we will have them in a later release of kubuntu [04:11] indeed [04:11] i told him hopefully with 11.04 [04:11] it worked ok from the live USB i had earlier [04:11] it was only a few months ago [04:12] jcollierdavis: that's a very good sign. [04:12] so i wouldn't hold my breath [04:12] but now i don't see any wireless networks on the list [04:12] these things take time [04:12] jcollierdavis: did you do the hardware drivers mess? [04:12] it's only an issue for people who don't take care when purchasing hardware [04:13] not yet i'm going to have to plug it into the LAN it seems [04:13] Mase_wk: zing? it was a gift... [04:13] wtf.... my new ubuntu joined this channel on purpose. cu you guys, please gimme a g-line ban. [04:13] jcollierdavis: sorry... that does happen. [04:15] yeh that sucks when people buy you crap you can't use [04:15] people know me well enough to let me buy my own hardware now :) [04:15] Mase_wk: indeed. plus, he's completely clueless when it comes to hardware. or software. or anything with a power button. [04:16] wouldnt' be an issue if the manufacturers realised at an early stage that having free drivers is an advantage [04:16] broadcom refused for a long time to even consider it [04:17] now they have done a complete 180 [04:18] lots of companies say that it gives them a competitive advantage to have closed drivers. [04:18] i've been trying to get android/linux ported to my winmo phone for years now, and we're running into all sorts of issues because there's no docs. [04:19] arrrghhh: yeh broadcom said that,so did intel , amd etc... sooner or later they realise the benefits [04:19] it just takes time [04:20] intel has had a fairly good record of OSS... at least compared to broadcom and the like :P [04:20] yeh, but previously they didn't [04:20] back in the late 90's [04:20] but they caught on quick and now the majority of the servers out there run intel kit [04:20] indeed [04:21] all our systems are intel [04:21] my desktops, laptops etc.. [04:21] just purely because i don't have to think about linux support [04:21] i know it is there or will be there as soon as possible [04:21] yup [04:22] and it really pays off, because when i ordered the batch of 3000 laptops for our client, i got all intel kit in them [04:22] because i use it and i know it works well [04:22] yea, my wlan card is intel in this lappy. always worked great out of the box. [04:22] indeed [04:27] yeh i have an X200 stinkpad and i couldn't be happier with it [04:27] heh === Freejack is now known as Guest4405 [04:30] Mase_wk: other than the smell? [04:32] mmm ozoney === Freejack is now known as Guest42493 [04:52] does kubuntu not have a /etc/resolv.conf [04:56] jcollierdavis: yes [04:56] it should...? [04:56] are you using a static IP? === jussi01 is now known as Guest39611 === Freejack is now known as Guest23720 === sqwertle is now known as buov === Dankubuntu is now known as Dankno [06:43] hi [06:43] Morning for everyone === Dankno is now known as danknubuntu [06:44] its easy install ATI driver ? [06:44] where i got error message. [06:44] *here [08:05] how does one install drivers [08:05] MykLynx: drivers for? [08:07] MykLynx: most things have drivers built in, but some graphics cards and wireless cards need proprietry drivers - you can install these if needed with: kmenu -system - Additional drivers [08:08] !nvidia | MykLynx [08:08] MykLynx: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [08:09] thank you my webcam is not recognised on Thinkpad Z61m [08:09] thats a pretty good how to. [08:09] this is the part # from ibm 40Y8519 [08:10] MykLynx: ahh, webcam. [08:10] haha [08:10] !webcam [08:10] Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras [08:11] Thank you [08:11] MykLynx: read down on that page, it has some info for webcams not supported out of the box [08:11] cool [08:11] any clue for chrome program association? [08:14] MykLynx: I wish I knew... (if someone knows, please tell us both) [08:16] will do Thank you [08:24] controller for webcam Vimicro / ZSMC [08:24] Have no clue [08:25] http://www.vimicro.com/english/product/pc003.htm === z is now known as Guest16672 === tarun is now known as c2tarun === zhanghexin is now known as poweruser === Surion is now known as Surion_ === Surion_ is now known as Surion [12:10] ok so anyone using the backports ppa right now? [12:17] whats the projected maximum size of /root? [12:18] mine is going 5 gigs ... was thinking of doing a separate /home so i can do system reinstalls and not have to backup everything each time [12:19] am thinking 20 gigs for / would be fine [12:21] sure, i could just upgrade but i prefer fresh install [12:22] kyubutsu: i have 40 gigs [12:22] no seprate hoem [12:22] *home [12:23] 40 gigs JUST for system? [12:24] you must have a whole lot of apps installed too.. [12:25] i think i be fine with 20 gigs for / .. i cant imagine updates to fill all of that up === mren|off is now known as mren [12:43] How can I setup a UMTS connection that uses my own nameserver [12:43] ? === Guest39611 is now known as jussi01 === jussi01 is now known as Guest24446 === Guest24446 is now known as jussi01 [13:11] so .. anyone on lucid? [13:12] Is there a special kubuntu-livecd for natty, or just generic ubuntu ones? [13:16] Exilant: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha1 [13:17] im sorry, http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/natty/alpha2 instead [13:17] !natty [13:17] Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04, due April 28 2011 - Help and support (only) in #ubuntu+1 - Natty is unstable and is not intended for production systems. [13:17] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/Alpha2/Kubuntu [13:18] As implied by that wiki page, you should be able to generally find the latest Natty release of Kubuntu at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/ === K is now known as Guest97444 === Guest97444 is now known as Exilant [13:22] thanks keithzg, nerdy_kid, pici [13:22]