[00:38] <Red-Raven> hey.
[00:52] <kristian-aalborg> anyone else having flash trouble tonight (more than usual)?
[00:53] <kristian-aalborg> ah, nm... off to bed - see ya
[01:14] <Red-Raven> what's the command to connect to a local ssh server? isn't it just localhost?
[01:14] <Red-Raven> hey nit-wit!
[01:15] <nit-wit> hey hows it going?
[01:16] <Red-Raven> not bad. having to get used to linux again after being gone for so long. lot of personal projects kept me away for a while, but now i'm back on the ssh server.
[01:18] <geirha> ssh localhost
[01:18] <nit-wit> as long as your happy that is what counts.:)
[01:19] <Red-Raven> well im definatly glad to be back. the personal projects were a lot of fun though and im still no where near done with them all.
[01:19] <Red-Raven> thanks geirha.
[01:22] <Red-Raven> ssh -p 56 localhost lets you join the local host under port 56 right?
[01:24] <geirha> Yes, it connects to port 56 instead of the default, 22.
[01:24] <Red-Raven> weird....now i can't even connect locally....
[01:26] <geirha> Is the server listening on that port?   sudo fuser -v 56/tcp
[01:27] <Red-Raven> USER      PID ACCESS COMMAND (1st line)  56/tcp: root 607 F....sshd (2nd line)
[01:28] <geirha> Right, so there's an sshd process listening on port 56.
[01:28] <geirha> Then it's refusing you access for whatever reason.
[01:29] <Red-Raven> hm.... a problem on the client or router?
[01:29] <geirha> add -v to the ssh command to get verbose output.
[01:29] <geirha> Add additional -v's to get even more verbose output
[01:30] <geirha> It should tell you why the server is refusing you access.
[01:30] <Red-Raven> debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[01:30] <Red-Raven> debug1: Applying options for *
[01:30] <Red-Raven> debug2: ssh_connect: needpriv 0
[01:30] <Red-Raven> debug1: Connecting to localhost [::1] port 84.
[01:30] <Red-Raven> debug1: connect to address ::1 port 84: Connection refused
[01:30] <Red-Raven> debug1: Connecting to localhost [127.0.0.1] port 84.
[01:30] <Red-Raven> debug1: connect to address 127.0.0.1 port 84: Connection refused
[01:30] <Red-Raven> ssh: connect to host localhost port 84: Connection refused
[01:31] <JoeMaverickSett> !pastebin | Red-Raven
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[01:31] <aveilleux> !pastebin | Red-Raven
[01:31] <Red-Raven> (i was actually using port 84, thats not a typo)
[01:31] <Red-Raven> sry :(
[01:32] <charlie-tca> then it won't connect using port 56, will it?
[01:32] <Red-Raven> no. i was using 56 as an example. in reality i was using 84, which shouldn't make a difference.
[01:34] <geirha> Red-Raven: Hm. Look in /var/log/auth.log
[01:35] <jdeslaur2> anyone using virtual box?
[01:36] <aveilleux> jdeslaur2: I do, what's up
[01:37] <Red-Raven> geirha, im there. what am i looking for?
[01:37] <geirha> Red-Raven: messages from sshd saying why your connection was refused.
[01:39] <geirha> Red-Raven: Anyway, can't help you any further tonight. Have to get some sleep. Good luck. :)
[01:39] <Red-Raven> k. night.
[01:42] <jdeslaur2> is the max resolution in virtual box 800x600?
[01:43] <aveilleux> jdeslaur2: Did you install guest additions?
[01:44] <jdeslaur2> aveilleux: that might be what I forgot
[02:34] <xAndromeda> err
[02:34] <xAndromeda> so i moved a file and now i cant find it O.o
[02:34] <holstein> :/
[02:35] <holstein> you remember the name?
[02:35] <holstein> locate it
[02:35] <xAndromeda> i did $sudo mv .themes/KUORA /usr/share/
[02:35] <xAndromeda> that should move kuora to the share folder right?
[02:35] <holstein> thats what i would expect
[02:35] <xAndromeda> its not there :(
[02:35] <holstein> hmmm
[02:36] <holstein> locate KUORA
[02:36] <xAndromeda> O.o
[02:36] <xAndromeda> i searched it and nothing came up
[02:37] <holstein> strange
[02:38] <xAndromeda> also mu /usr/share/themes folder seems to be gone
[02:38] <xAndromeda> and im sure i didnt mess with that
[02:40] <xAndromeda> whut am i suposed to do ? lol
[02:40] <holstein> eh
[02:40] <holstein> seems like its just themes
[02:41] <holstein> easy enough to replace
[02:41] <xAndromeda> how? O.o
[02:41] <holstein> reinstall?
[02:41] <holstein> copy from a live CD ?
[02:41] <holstein> DL
[02:41] <holstein> at least its not your data
[02:42] <xAndromeda> how do i copy from a live cd?
[02:42] <xAndromeda> oh ic
[02:44] <xAndromeda> err
[02:44] <xAndromeda> where on the disk
[02:44] <xAndromeda> would it be in? O.o
[02:44] <holstein> /usr/share/themes ?
[02:44] <holstein> maybe
[02:45] <charlie-tca> where did you get the theme originally?
[02:45] <xAndromeda> gnome-look
[02:46] <xAndromeda> but anyways in the boot disk i dont see a sur drive
[02:46] <xAndromeda> *folder
[02:48] <holstein> xAndromeda: you could just reinstall a theme
[02:48] <holstein> and i bet it will just be regenerated
[02:48] <holstein> the /usr/share/themes dir
[02:49] <xAndromeda> thats a great idea! lol
[02:49] <holstein> *in theory
[02:55] <xAndromeda> neope
[02:55] <xAndromeda> its not important is it?
[02:56] <xAndromeda> brb relog
[02:57] <xAndromeda> hey do you think i can replace it with
[02:57] <xAndromeda> the ./theme
[02:57] <xAndromeda> folder
[02:59] <holstein> xAndromeda: can or should?
[02:59] <holstein> sounds like you might should quit while you're still ahead ;)
[02:59] <xAndromeda> lol
[03:00] <xAndromeda> well hopefully this wont kill me
[03:00] <holstein> cant kill you
[03:00] <holstein> go for it :)
[03:02] <xAndromeda> sudo mv ~/Downloads/themes /usr/share/
[03:02] <xAndromeda> does that look right?
[03:02] <xAndromeda> i moved a copy of the .theme folder from home, renamed it and put it in downlaods
[03:02] <holstein> i would cp them
[03:03] <xAndromeda> how would you do that?
[03:03] <xAndromeda> well i coped the .theme folder to dl folder
[03:04] <xAndromeda> relog :D
[03:05] <holstein> cp instead of mv
[03:05] <holstein> well..
[03:12] <vtor> hay
[03:12] <vtor> hello
[03:12] <vtor> any 1 there
[03:13] <vtor> hello need help people > installed ubuntu 8.04 then upgraded to 10.04 through update that came on screen now i have no apps places sysytem??
[03:14] <holstein> vtor: no menu?
[03:14] <holstein> vtor: do you get error messages?
[03:14] <holstein> vtor: did the upgrade complete?
[03:14] <aveilleux> vtor: Right-click on your top panel, and hit "Add to panel". Select "Menu bar".
[03:24] <vtor> no cant do that no panel
[03:24] <vtor> upgrade finished perfect
[03:24] <vtor> no errors
[03:24] <holstein> hmmm
[03:25] <holstein> drag...
[03:25] <holstein> vtor: there not hiding right?
[03:25] <holstein> vtor: have you restarted?
[03:25] <vtor> hiding?
[03:25] <vtor> yh restarted 5times
[03:25] <holstein> i was thinking if you had them set to auto-hide
[03:25] <holstein> in 8.04
[03:25] <vtor> no
[03:25] <holstein> maybe something funky was going on relating to that
[03:28] <holstein> vtor: try hitting alt+F2
[03:28] <holstein> and running
[03:28] <holstein> gnome-panel
[03:29] <holstein> anything?
[03:29] <holstein> another suggestion im reading is creating a new user
[03:29] <vtor> hold on restarting
[03:29] <holstein> and moving files over
[03:29] <holstein> BUT, you could make a new user
[03:29] <holstein> and see if the panels are there
[03:29] <vtor> where u readin this?
[03:30] <holstein> as a trouble-shooting step
[03:30] <holstein> http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=903933
[03:30] <holstein> i was searching for 'accidentally removed panels'
[03:30] <holstein> not quite the issue
[03:30] <holstein> but, the same result
[03:31] <vtor> ok
[03:31] <vtor> alt f2 run application
[03:31] <vtor> click on show list of apps there all there
[03:32] <holstein> gnome-panel didnt do anything?
[03:32] <vtor> what do u mean
[03:32] <holstein> when you hit alt+F2
[03:33] <holstein> and type in the box
[03:33] <holstein> gnome-panel
[03:33] <holstein> and hit the run button
[03:33] <holstein> nothing happened?
[03:33] <vtor> no nothing
[03:33] <holstein> OK
[03:33] <holstein> i think if it were me
[03:33] <vtor> shall i reinstall gnome panel
[03:33] <vtor> from terminal
[03:33] <holstein> i would try the user thing
[03:34] <holstein> add a user and log in
[03:34] <vtor> how do i add a user login
[03:34] <holstein> then, i would try and repair the stuff in my user
[03:34] <vtor> told u im a noob
[03:34] <holstein> alt+F2
[03:35] <holstein> gnome-terminal
[03:36] <holstein> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/add-a-user-on-ubuntu-server/
[03:36] <holstein> ^^ that looks like what i would do
[03:36] <holstein> then, you'll know more about what the problem is
[03:36] <holstein> and what you want to do about it
[03:37] <vtor> ok cool
[03:37] <vtor> thabks holstein
[03:37] <holstein> vtor: good luck
[03:37] <holstein> thats just going to be some fiddly upgrade glitch
[03:37] <holstein> you'll get it :)
[03:38] <vtor> yh well i go 8.04 installed lol
[03:38] <vtor> :)
[03:38] <vtor> im earning
[03:38] <vtor> *learning
[03:38] <vtor> i wish i was earning
[03:38] <vtor> olololol
[03:42] <xAndromeda> the su command
[03:42] <xAndromeda> grants super user right?
[03:43] <holstein> xAndromeda: sudo
[03:43] <xAndromeda> what does su do?
[03:44] <xAndromeda> nvm o.o
[03:45] <aveilleux> xAndromeda: su stands for "switch user"
[03:45] <aveilleux> xAndromeda: sudo means "super user do"
[03:54] <vtor> holstein u there?
[03:54] <holstein> o/
[03:54] <vtor> just added new user
[03:54] <vtor> loading now
[03:54] <holstein> cool
[03:54] <vtor> fingers crossed
[03:54] <holstein> panel?
[03:54] <vtor> no comp loading had 2 restart
[03:56] <vtor> nautlius could not create the following folders /home/vtor/ desktop, /home/vtor.nautilus
[03:56] <vtor> ?
[03:58] <vtor> i think i will have to install 10.04 from cd  i know how to do that now just a matter of getting it on cd my cddvd drive broke on my lappy
[03:58] <xAndromeda> :D
[03:58] <holstein> vtor: im sure you can sort it out
[03:58] <holstein> thats the kind of thing that would bug me though
[03:58] <holstein> til i did a fresh install ;)
[03:59] <vtor> yes but i like it because i have learned so much today
[03:59] <vtor> when things go wrong u learn
[03:59] <vtor> well i do
[03:59] <vtor> its buggin me bad
[03:59] <vtor> is there a way i can uninstall 10.04
[03:59] <vtor> bk 2 8.04
[03:59] <aveilleux> vtor: You mean downgrade?
[03:59] <vtor> yh
[03:59] <aveilleux> vtor: Not really
[04:00] <vtor> :(
[04:00] <vtor> not really
[04:00] <vtor> its possible tho?
[04:00] <vtor> :)
[04:00] <vtor> lol
[04:00] <aveilleux> vtor: Not to my knowledge
[04:00] <vtor> ok lemme throw it out there in other room
[05:00] <NJSchultz07> hello. I need a hand install the /boot file onto a hard drive seperate from ubuntu in order to get a dualboot windows system working
[05:02] <bioterror> I have windows and ubuntu on same hard drive and the dual boot works just fine
[05:03] <bioterror> so what's your problem?
[05:04] <NJSchultz07> grub2 is not loading at boot up.
[05:04] <NJSchultz07> I know why. and what to change to fix it, just not how to fix it.
[05:06] <bioterror> copy your /boot to another partition
[05:06] <bioterror> or drive what ever
[05:06] <NJSchultz07> I'm not sure how to do that properly
[05:06] <bioterror> sudo blkid
[05:06] <bioterror> take the UUID
[05:06] <bioterror> sudo nano /etc/fstab
[05:07] <NJSchultz07> i'm sorry i'm very new to all this. UUID?
[05:07] <bioterror> UUID=<insert your partitions uuid where boot lies now> /boot ext4 defaults 0 1
[05:07] <bioterror> !uuid
[05:07] <ubot2> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[05:09] <NJSchultz07> ok i've got the uuid
[05:10] <bioterror> but I have to flee to train
[05:10] <bioterror> JackyAlcine or someone else will assist you ;)
[05:10] <NJSchultz07> ok, thanks
[05:11] <NJSchultz07> jackyalcine, bioterror said you could help.
[05:12] <JackyAlcine> Hey NJSchultz07, I can.
[05:12] <JackyAlcine> Do you have another disk or free partition that you can copy the boot folder to?
[05:13] <NJSchultz07> i do. the windows hard drive has two partitions, one for OS and the other for files. I was thinking the files partition?
[05:16] <JackyAlcine> Well, like bioterror had mentioned; running sudo nano /etc/fstab would open a terminal text-editor that shows the partition mount on boot.
[05:17] <NJSchultz07> yeah, i've opened that but i'm not really sure what to do with it.
[05:18] <Omsniffiscent> ctrl+z lol
[05:18] <NJSchultz07> what did opening that up do?
[05:19] <Omsniffiscent> err ctrl+x
[05:20] <NJSchultz07> ok. that exited out of it. z happened to do the same as x
[05:20] <JackyAlcine> NJSchultz07: It displays the UUIDs so when you use the 'sudo blkid -U <UUID>' command, you could find the UNIX path (ie: /dev/sda1)
[05:21] <NJSchultz07> I thought blkid displayed that already
[05:21] <NJSchultz07> i'm sorry. I learn quick but i am rather new at all this
[05:22] <JackyAlcine> NJSchultz07: It did, when provided the UUID, but this is so you can easily do a 'cp -f' (recursive copy)
[05:22] <Omsniffiscent> I'm sorry I wasn't being helpful, I was being humorous. :(
[05:23] <bioterror> !fstab | NJSchultz07
[05:23] <ubot2> NJSchultz07: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[05:24] <NJSchultz07> ok. so once i've opened fstab, then what?
[05:24] <bioterror> you add the uuid line
[05:24] <bioterror> with you uuid
[05:25] <NJSchultz07> does it matter where the uuid line is in the file? top/bottom? and just to clarifly, this is the UUID of the drive the /boot is currently on?
[05:29] <bioterror> i place them under /
[05:30] <NJSchultz07> ok. could you please give me the format what what to type again, i believe you said it started with UUID=
[05:31] <bioterror> UUID=<insert your partitions uuid where boot lies now> /boot ext4 defaults 0 1
[05:32] <NJSchultz07> should the UUID and EXT4 have parentheses around them as they did in blkid?
[05:33] <NJSchultz07> if no, then thats done and that line has been entered
[05:33] <bioterror> is your new /boot partition ext4 or what?
[05:34] <NJSchultz07> ntfs
[05:34] <bioterror> haha
[05:34] <bioterror> sorry
[05:34] <NJSchultz07> not gonna work?
[05:35] <bioterror> that wont work
[05:35] <NJSchultz07> I know when I installed ubuntu it was able to resize an existing ntfs partition, could i simply create a small partition on the primary hard drive in ext4 to put the boot onto?
[05:36] <bioterror> 100MB is enuff for the /boot
[05:36] <bioterror> as therres only few kernels
[05:37] <NJSchultz07> ok. I tried to resize the partition in gparted, but seemed to be having some problems getting it to work
[05:37] <bioterror> but idont understand why you cant boot
[05:37] <bioterror> whats your problem
[05:37] <bioterror> like for real
[05:37] <bioterror> now after this worthless hustle
[05:38] <NJSchultz07> i cant boot because ubuntu is on a SATA HD hooked up through a PCI card. my computer is old and the BIOS doesnt recognize my second SATA HD on boot up, only my initial IDE HD
[05:39] <NJSchultz07> i have the latest BIOS
[05:39] <bioterror> ditch the windows :D
[05:40] <bioterror> i would use that kind of pci card drives as a storage space
[05:41] <NJSchultz07> yeah, I was just hoping to get this figured out easily rather than have to back everything up and reinstall both windows and ubuntu
[05:42] <bioterror> my life is peaceful as i have one computer, one os
[05:43] <NJSchultz07> my desktop is windows, my laptop is back, and now i'm trying linux. life is not so peaceful. haha
[05:43] <NJSchultz07> laptop is mac*
[05:45] <bioterror> that pci card really makes things a little complicated
[05:45] <NJSchultz07> yeah. but 2TB IDE HD's aren't that common, and I already had the SATA card for flashing dvd drives
[05:46] <bioterror> but you can try to boot live media, run gparted and resize / partition to get 100MB for a new boot
[05:48] <NJSchultz07> yeah. I'm having trouble resizing the NTFS at all. the partition i'm trying to resize is about 170GB and I know it has just over 70Gb free.
[05:50] <bioterror> and remember to run grub-install /dev/hda
[05:50] <bioterror> i think hda is your primary disk
[05:50] <NJSchultz07> I think its sda for me, but yes.
[05:52] <bioterror> the one that bios finds
[05:52] <NJSchultz07> yeah
[05:52] <bioterror> ahhh laters, ive arrived to my destination
[05:53] <updawgz> hey um basically... one of the tuts for emerald said to put emerald --replace into the command area in compiz manager,
[05:53] <updawgz> and now my screen
[05:53] <updawgz> flashes
[05:53] <updawgz> not the whole screen just the launcher/pannels
[05:54] <NJSchultz07> thanks, bye
[05:55] <updawgz> anybody?  O.o
[05:58] <JackyAlcine> updawgz: press Alt+F2 and run compiz --replace
[06:00] <updawgz> im currently in terminal mode only
[06:00] <updawgz> and the error i get is
[06:01] <updawgz> xterm xt error: cant open dispay:
[06:01] <updawgz> xterm: display is not set
[06:08] <updawgz> >_<
[06:14] <Omsniffiscent> !emerald
[06:14] <ubot2> emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.
[06:16] <updawgz> i guess i found out the hard way...
[06:17] <Omsniffiscent> Bad news :(
[06:17] <updawgz> so err...
[06:17] <updawgz> what are my options... :(
[06:19] <updawgz> aside from wiping it and restarting -_-
[06:28] <updawgz> any ideas?
[06:31] <updawgz> T_T
[06:32] <JackyAlcine> updawgz: Try installing metacity.
[06:32] <JackyAlcine> or running 'metacity' in a terminal.
[06:32] <JackyAlcine> !metacity
[06:32] <ubot2> Factoid 'metacity' not found
[06:32] <JackyAlcine> *sigh*
[06:33] <updawgz> what do i type?
[06:34] <updawgz> error: unable to open xdisplay
[06:36] <Omsniffiscent> My guess would be, you need to uninstall emerald first.
[06:36] <updawgz> already did that
[06:38] <updawgz> !!!!
[06:38] <updawgz> I FIXED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:38] <updawgz> :D :D
[06:38] <Omsniffiscent> What'd you do?
[06:38] <Omsniffiscent> compiz --replace?
[06:38] <updawgz> no compiz didnt work
[06:39] <updawgz> i did gtk-window-decorator --replace &
[06:39] <updawgz> yay!
[06:39] <Omsniffiscent> Oh. Whatever worked. So why is compiz not working?
[06:40] <updawgz> emerald apparently :/
[06:41] <Omsniffiscent> But you've uninstalled emerald now?
[06:41] <Omsniffiscent> Do you have the Compiz Configuration Settings Manager installed?
[06:41] <updawgz> yeah
[06:41] <updawgz> thats what caused it lol
[06:41] <updawgz> i was on gnome-look
[06:42] <Omsniffiscent> coulda opened that and put a check in the window decoration plugin.
[06:42] <updawgz> and a skin
[06:42] <updawgz> said to set the windwo decorator to emerald
[06:42] <updawgz> -_-
[06:43] <updawgz>  :D
[06:46] <updawgz> thixx for all the help! lol ima go 2 bed <3
[06:56] <JRylez> hello
[06:58] <JRylez> My question is how to connect to the internet 0o so far i cant even get into Windows Network
[07:01] <JRylez> hello
[08:00] <xAndromeda> hey do you guys know how to change the colour of
[08:00] <xAndromeda> the window
[08:00] <xAndromeda> as in the top bar wher the window buttons are
[08:00] <xAndromeda> dosnt seem to want to change for me
[08:09] <geirha> You change the metacity theme
[08:11] <Omsniffiscent> There's a program that will let you change all sorts of color schemes for gnome. I think it's called gnome color picker?
[08:12] <Omsniffiscent> GNOME Color Chooser
[08:12] <Omsniffiscent> It's in the Software Center.
[08:34] <xAndromeda> so um i nthe thingy
[08:34] <xAndromeda> which one is the very top bar?
[08:34] <xAndromeda> genome color chooser
[09:57] <duanedesign> \
[09:59] <duanedesign> .5
[10:51] <xAndromeda> quick question if anybody is still on...
[10:52] <xAndromeda> if installed eclipse from the app store
[10:52] <xAndromeda> where do i drop the folders
[10:52] <xAndromeda> for stuff like pydef
[11:12] <geirha> ~/.eclipse somewhere I'd assume. Though, doesn't it have a system for installing add-ons in the GUI?
[11:14] <xAndromeda> it does but im not near a good connection
[11:14] <xAndromeda> atm so that would take hours :(
[11:15] <geirha> I see, well I'd try asking in #eclipse
[11:15] <xAndromeda> k thx :D
[13:35] <Fvic> can anyone tell me,what is CVE ?is it different than a bug?
[13:56] <geirha> Fvic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures
[14:49] <johnny77> I'm having trouble with a reliable wireless connection. I know it works, because I've got it to connect, but if I reboot it will not reconnect, giving me a "No DHCPOFFERS Received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping" error.
[14:53] <duanedesign> :(
[14:54] <holstein> johnny77: do you have other wireless devices on the network?
[14:55] <johnny77> holstein: yes. I know the network is good. We have several other devices connected to the netwrok.
[14:55] <johnny77> *network.
[14:56] <holstein> johnny77: pretty standard set-up though?
[14:56] <holstein> on the AP ?
[14:56] <johnny77> AP?
[14:56] <holstein> router or whatever
[14:57] <holstein> johnny77: how do you get it to connect?
[14:57] <johnny77> holstein: yes. I only default setting on the router that I changed would be MAC address filtering. But if added the computers address.
[14:57] <holstein> just keep restarting til the magig happens ?
[14:58] <holstein> magic*
[14:58] <holstein> johnny77: WPA ?
[14:58] <duanedesign> johnny77: what are the contents of :  /etc/network/interfaces
[14:58] <duanedesign> could you pastebin?
[14:58] <johnny77> holstein: sometimes I run the command sudo dhclient wlan0 - sometimes sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:58] <holstein> interesting...
[14:59] <johnny77> holstein: yes, it is just brute force until magic happens.
[14:59] <johnny77> no encryption
[14:59] <holstein> i would like to know what WPA without MAC address filtering performs like
[14:59] <holstein> just as a trouble-shooting step
[15:00] <holstein> and since MAC address filtering is not that great anyways
[15:00] <holstein> but, i think you are on the right track
[15:00] <holstein> seems like its something in the buntu machine...
[15:00] <johnny77> duanedesign: give me a minute to type it out.
[15:02] <holstein> maybe assign a static IP manually too
[15:03] <johnny77> duanedesign: /etc/network/interfaces - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/575012/
[15:04] <johnny77> holstein: I've tried a static, but I may have been setting it up wrong. Wireless has always just worked in my other (this) machine.
[15:08] <holstein> johnny77: might be interesting to try wicd
[15:08] <holstein> if you dont feel comfortable messing with the install
[15:08] <holstein> you could get a lubuntu live CD
[15:08] <johnny77> holstein: have it installed. No lick with it either. It says it can't get an IP address.
[15:08] <holstein> :/
[15:09] <holstein> johnny77: what device?
[15:09] <holstein> wifi*
[15:11] <johnny77> holstein: broadcom
[15:11] <johnny77> I've looked for bugs on launchpad, but didn't find any
[15:12] <holstein> johnny77: i have a broadcom chip in an HP mininote
[15:12] <holstein> i dont have the device in front of me right now
[15:12] <holstein> VIA graphics chip in there too
[15:12] <holstein> used to be a total PITA
[15:13] <johnny77> I had to install the drivers with a b43fwcutter I think it was called.
[15:13] <holstein> thats the kind of device that really shows what the ubuntu kernel team is up to :)
[15:13] <holstein> johnny77: when i go to the 'restricted drivers' app
[15:13] <holstein> or whatever the kids are calling it these days
[15:13] <holstein> *this was from 10.04
[15:14] <holstein> there were 2 drivers availalbe
[15:14] <johnny77> holstein: on a good note, I was told the HD was corrupted and I needed a new one.
[15:14] <holstein> and open and closed one
[15:14] <holstein> both with different 'issues'
[15:14] <holstein> i always tried the open one
[15:14] <holstein> and went to the other one if needed
[15:15] <holstein> johnny77: is that the case for your hardware?
[15:15] <holstein> 2 driver options?
[15:15] <holstein> used to be funky back in 9.10
[15:15] <holstein> there was a patch to fix something buggy
[15:15] <holstein> like resuming from standby and wifi
[15:16] <johnny77> holstein: not that I recall. I was looking at a page that said if I had this chipset I needed to use this driver. I don't think there were options.
[15:16] <holstein> its easy for a wiki page to become totally irrelavant
[15:16] <holstein> quick too
[15:17] <holstein> new kernel rev can totally change the game for device support
[15:18] <holstein> johnny77: is this you?
[15:18] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[15:19] <holstein> im using the STA drivers now
[15:21] <johnny77> holstein: Yes, and I have the BCM4306/2 and installed it per directions below, under b43 no internet.
[15:22] <holstein> ok
[15:22] <holstein> try the other one then
[15:22] <johnny77> you mean the STA driver?
[15:23] <holstein> yup
[15:23] <holstein> why not, right?
[15:23] <johnny77> holstein: I guess so.
[15:24] <johnny77> looking back over the direction, I do not remember doing step on under b43 - no internet access. Not sure what it is doing there. Could that be the problem?
[15:26] <holstein> johnny77: plausible i suppose
[15:26] <holstein> i gotta run
[15:27] <holstein> but, i think this is where you need to be
[15:27] <johnny77> holstein: ok, thanks for the help..
[15:27] <holstein> having used a couple broadcom chips
[15:27] <holstein> through a few buntu releases
[15:27] <holstein> good luck :)
[15:57] <johnny77> how do i add CDROM to the sources list?
[15:58] <johnny77> from the command line.
[15:59] <s-fox> johnny77, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[15:59] <stlsaint> i would think you just uncomment the deb cdrom line in your sources.list
[16:00] <stlsaint> s-fox: ^^ yes, no, maybe so?
[16:00] <stlsaint> oh, linky was posted too, hehe
[16:00] <s-fox> stlsaint,  If it is already in the sources,lst file then yes :)
[16:01] <stlsaint> cool
[16:36] <seidos> bodhizazen: nirvana now, or suffer for a pureland?
[16:36] <seidos> what is the command to display an the topic of a channel?
[16:36] <seidos> i got banned from #ubuntu-hardened because /topic #channel didn't work
[16:36] <stlsaint> seidos: what is ubuntu-hardened?
[16:36] <seidos> bodhizazen: blood is alkaline?
[16:37] <seidos> stlsaint: security team
[16:37] <seidos> stlsaint: is this channel secure?
[16:37] <stlsaint> seidos: nope
[16:37] <seidos> i believe it is
[16:37] <seidos> belief is insufficient
[16:37] <stlsaint> but there are some pretty hardcore mods here ;)
[16:37] <seidos> stlsaint: is it because i'm in it?
[16:37] <seidos> stlsaint: mods?
[16:37] <seidos> ah, ops
[16:37] <stlsaint> moderators
[16:37] <stlsaint> eya
[16:37] <seidos> sweeeet
[16:41] <seidos> bodhizazen: do you recall the grinding/mashing tool that apothecaries use?
[16:41] <seidos> ddecator: do you recall?  i tried searching google but couldn't find it
[16:41] <seidos> alkaine blood
[16:41] <seidos> i have HPV
[16:42] <seidos> a mitigating factor in cancer
[16:42] <seidos> we'll use a blender
[16:46] <seidos> i'm going to use all the standard packages
[16:47] <charlie-tca> seidos: should be able to use     /topic      in any channel to see the topic
[16:47] <charlie-tca> You don't need #channel
[16:47] <seidos> [11:47] Insufficient arguments for command.
[16:47] <seidos> charlie-tca: try it
[16:48] <charlie-tca> worked here
[16:48] <seidos> the links in empathy don't work
[16:48] <seidos> charlie-tca: client?
[16:48] <charlie-tca> xchat
[16:48] <seidos> that is, for a topic
[16:48] <charlie-tca> the good client
[16:48] <seidos> charlie-tca: empathy and webchat
[16:48] <seidos> empathy is better than ex
[16:48] <seidos> ask motu
[16:48] <charlie-tca> only for the things that work in it
[16:49] <seidos> ask masters of the universe #motu
[16:49] <seidos> er...wrong
[16:49] <charlie-tca> um, xchat shows the topic, empathy doesn't.
[16:50] <seidos> anyone here using empathy?
[16:50] <seidos> empathy shows the topic
[16:50] <MrChrisDruif> seidos: Sorry, using Pidgin....my kinda bird ;)
[16:51] <seidos> MrChrisDruif: motu?
[16:51] <MrChrisDruif> seidos: Nope, sorry I'm not a motu
[16:51] <seidos> MrChrisDruif: but the motus believe empathy > xchat
[16:52] <seidos> empathy supports multiple protocols
[16:52] <MrChrisDruif> Wooow....empathy better than xchat? =-O
[16:52] <charlie-tca> It is still an opinion, isn't it?
[16:52] <MrChrisDruif> seidos: So does Pidgin :)
[16:52] <seidos> empathy supports mutliple protocols
[16:52] <seidos> MrChrisDruif: ask in motu
[16:52] <seidos> MrChrisDruif: #ubuntu-motu
[16:52] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu believes in xchat and pidgin, but does not include empathy by default. That would seem to point a different way to me.
[16:52] <seidos> belief is sufficient?
[16:53] <MrChrisDruif> seidos: It's not a question, I know Pidgin does support multiple-protocols :D
[16:53] <seidos> why did motu select empathy?
[16:53] <seidos> elf, not trolling
[16:53] <charlie-tca> Those are still people in #ubuntu-motu, and entitled to their opinions.
[16:56] <seidos> got entitlement?
[16:56]  * charlie-tca shrugs, pretty sure you can find people anyway that will insist on a client being the absolute best for IRC.
[16:57] <seidos> who decided empathy was best for ubuntu?
[16:57] <seidos> how can i ask them charlie-tca ?
[16:57] <charlie-tca> a group of community members that met at UDS
[16:57] <MrChrisDruif> seidos: seems (to me) a bit offtopic this; might be better off in #ubuntu-beginners-team ?
[16:58] <charlie-tca> You would have to search the blueprints in launchpad, I guess
[18:12] <ddecator> seidos: recall what?
[18:13] <seidos> ddecator: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_QzOHBaZw2Ok/TSg6CY3rU7I/AAAAAAAACAY/7wapsjZSEik/s1600/genital-warts-female.jpg
[18:13] <seidos> ddecator: how did that happen?  you're going to be a doctor, right?
[18:14] <ddecator> seidos: no, ಠ_ಠ, and that seems inappropriate for this channel
[18:14] <seiuno> ddecator: are you in #medicine?
[18:15] <ddecator> seiuno: no
[18:15] <seidos> don't look at me!!!!
[18:16] <seiuno> PD187_: are you really a police?
[18:17] <PD187_> nope
[18:17] <johnny77> I'm trying to kill NetworkManager but it is still showing up in the processes even when I sudo killall NetworkManager
[18:17] <aveilleux> johnny77: ps -ef |grep NetworkManager
[18:17] <aveilleux> johnny77: Take the process ID, plug it into kill -9 <PID>
[18:18] <seiuno> i recommend using a default install of ubuntu, for security reasons
[18:20] <johnny77> aveilleux: I think it is restarting automatically.
[18:21] <aveilleux> johnny77: sudo service NetworkManager stop
[18:39] <johnny77> Is NetworkManager typically loaded on boot?
[18:39] <stlsaint> johnny77: yes
[18:40] <johnny77> stlsaint: ok, thanks.
[18:44] <johnny77> oops I made a mistake, now my screen is blank. ctrl+alt+del is not responding, any suggestions before I hit the power button?
[18:51] <seidos> johnny77: install and run default.  work with motu recommended packages
[18:52] <johnny77> seidos: Then it is no fun to play and try to figure things out.
[18:52] <seidos> johnny77: download source for empathy
[18:53] <seidos> i'm trying to file a bug, no time T_T
[18:53] <seidos> how to reset gnome panels again?
[18:53] <seidos> and i need to clip my nails
[18:59] <davidl_> quick irc question... which channel can I ask for help on resetting my password for my registered nickname?
[18:59] <davidl_> thought I had it written down... but can't remember it... =)~
[18:59] <charlie-tca> !register
[18:59] <ubot2> Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode
[19:00] <charlie-tca> check in #freenode
[19:00] <davidl_> thx!
[19:00] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:43] <seidos> ddecator, bodhizazen are you aware of any "medicine app" community?
[19:43] <ddecator> seidos: can't say i am
[19:44] <seidos> i just asked a doctor friend of mine if he knew any hackers
[19:45] <lordjj> Can someone tell me how fix my numpad: Instead of typing numbers it's scrolling the mouse (num lock doesn't seem to change anything)
[19:46] <bioterror> lordjj, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4210901&postcount=3
[19:50] <lordjj> bioterror: thanks
[19:57] <seidos> bioterror: hpv
[19:57] <seidos> ?
[19:57] <bioterror> ?
[20:10] <seidos> bioterror: hpv is a bioterror.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hpv
[20:10] <seidos> perhaps you have something else in mind
[20:11] <bioterror> nice that you connect my nick to something like genital wart :D
[20:14] <seidos> bioterror: perhaps you have something else in mind
[20:19] <bioterror> seidos, http://www.crazymonkeygames.com/fullscreen.php?game=pandemic-2
[20:20] <duanedesign> :D
[20:23] <bioterror> my flash seems to be broken, asI cant play that
[20:57] <mongox> good nite everyone, when i read that support for older machines in 10.10 has been droped, what machines they mean ? PIII or or even older ?
[21:06] <holstein> mongox: where is that link?
[21:06] <holstein> probably older hardware from the kernel
[21:07] <javatexan> is there a pdf authoring program where you take a pdf template and make changes to it?
[21:07] <holstein> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-pdf-editing-tools-for-ubuntu.html
[21:08] <javatexan> cool, is there an API I can learn to work with the pdf documents too?
[21:12] <mongox> this is the piece i read and i start to wonder "As support for i586 chipsets has been dropped from the kernel for the 10.10 series (These include VIA C3, AMD K6, National Semiconductor and AMD Geode) "
[21:14] <mongox> maybe is hardware that has nothingh to do with personal computers lol
[21:18] <holstein> you can always build your own kernel
[21:18] <holstein> if you need support for something the ubuntu kernel doesnt have
[21:19] <holstein> and backports are usually handy
[21:19] <mongox> err, ok!
[21:20] <mongox> sorry i feel like when human talk to dogs .. but is fine
[21:20] <mongox> for some reason i was installing a 10.10 to my old pc and did not work
[21:20] <mongox> i found a old cd with 10.04 and voila
[21:20] <mongox> i was wondering if that have something to do
[21:22] <holstein> mongox: yeah
[21:22] <holstein> different kernel
[21:24] <metta> !panels
[21:24] <ubot2> To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »
[21:24] <metta> i created this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/gnome-panel#preview
[21:25] <mongox> that means that next time i update "the kernel" my ubuntu is going to be dead ?
[21:26] <holstein> mongox: not in 10.04
[21:26] <holstein> shouldnt be
[21:27] <davidl_> Another question...  (Ubuntu 10.04) How would I add linux-headers-virtual, open-vm-dkms, and open-vm-tools to an iso I'm using, and make sure they're included in the install?   :D
[21:31] <holstein> davidl_: i think im going to try remastersys again
[21:31] <holstein> there is an ubuntu customization kit
[21:31] <holstein> i didnt like it though
[21:32] <holstein> the big kids use a chroot i believe
[21:32] <holstein> to build the install, and make the iso from it
[21:33] <davidl_> I'm little... I was hoping I could just mount iso, copy files to it, edit some kind of script that calls for which packages are installed and be done.
[21:33] <holstein> well, kind of
[21:33] <holstein> with the chroot
[21:33] <holstein> i think its more like that
[21:34] <mongox> @ holstein that means everytime i do updates and kernel updates & stuff , my "ubuntu" stay in 10.04 ? and is going to be working
[21:34] <holstein> check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization davidl_
[21:34] <davidl_> cool... thx
[21:35] <davidl_> holstein: is that the customization kit you didn't like to much?
[21:38] <holstein> davidl_: nah
[21:38] <holstein> that link is more about chroot
[21:38] <holstein> the kit is called uck i think
[21:38] <holstein> was in the repos
[21:38] <holstein> worth a look i suppose
[21:59] <seidos> right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration
[21:59] <metta> right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration
[22:00] <seidos> thanks metta :)
[22:00] <seidos> do you have a question metta ?
[22:01] <metta> seidos tab complete doesn't work in empathy
[22:01] <seidos> metta: can you create a bug?
[22:01] <metta> seidos: i'll try, oh, it's working now
[22:01] <metta> seidos: it didn't work in #ubuntu-hardened for some reason