[03:17] <monish001> Hello. I just tried to installed gmail voice/video plugin. The result is- The package is of bad quality
[03:17] <monish001> how come i report this bug?
[03:32] <penalvch> Please mark bug 656575 wishlist
[03:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 656575 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Calc err502=sqrt(-1) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656575
[03:34] <penalvch> preferably sooner than later :D
[05:20] <micahg> RedSingularity: you should *never* tell people to remove their profile folders
[05:22] <RedSingularity> micahg: even if they back up like he did?
[05:24] <ddecator> RedSingularity: we always tell them to make a new profile using the profile manager so they can leave the old profile untouched and test with a fresh profile (assuming this is firefox related)
[05:24] <ddecator> ask them*
[05:25] <micahg> RedSingularity: ah, ok, in that case, it's not so bad, I usually suggest creating a new profile
[05:25] <RedSingularity> ddecator: thunderbird....but ok.  Will remember in the future
[05:25] <micahg> ddecator: RedSingularity thunderbird also has a profile manager, it's just not as obvious
[05:25] <RedSingularity> micahg: yeah i had him backup but if its bad practice I will refrain from it in the future :)
[05:26] <ddecator> RedSingularity: just helps prevent accidents :)
[05:26]  * micahg gets scared when he sees stuff like that
[05:26] <micahg> RedSingularity: the other problem is people might come along and only read part of the bug report and try what you suggested w/out backing up
[05:27] <RedSingularity> micahg: That wasnt the issue anyway it seems.  You had suggested a video card problem?
[05:27] <micahg> RedSingularity: actually, I forgot it's natty, I blame compiz :)
[05:27] <RedSingularity> micahg: for the scrambled text?
[05:28] <micahg> RedSingularity: but it would probably be best to show it to the compiz guys and see if they think it's caused by compiz, otherwise, I'll show it to the X guys
[05:28] <RedSingularity> micahg: how do you suggest I show it to them?  Just email them?
[05:29] <micahg> the intel drivers are usually pretty stable, actually I think there was just an update for an intel tearing issue
[05:29] <micahg> RedSingularity: there was an intel driver update last night, i'm curious if that will fix it
[05:30] <RedSingularity> micahg: why would the issue only effect thunderbird tho?
[05:30] <micahg> possibly, thunderbird might be executing something other apps don't
[05:32] <RedSingularity> micahg: hmmm...to test compiz, I can ask him to use metacity temporarily...
[05:32] <micahg> RedSingularity: that's an idea :)
[05:33] <RedSingularity> micahg: ok if that doesnt work do you want to show the x team?
[05:33] <micahg> RedSingularity: yep
[05:33] <RedSingularity> ok
[07:41] <palhmbs> how long would one wait for xul-runner to install via synaptic
[07:41] <palhmbs> how can I detect whether it's failing?
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[09:02] <om26er> seb128, before the next nautilus upload please merge this too https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/ubuntu/natty/nautilus/nautilus-fix-649993/+merge/51497 builds and works fine.
[09:03] <seb128> om26er, ok, can you ask for ubuntu-sponsors review so it's listed on the sponsoring queue?
[09:03] <seb128> this way it doesn't slip through
[09:04] <om26er> i thought ~desktop-team was different, i'll subscribe sponsors
[09:05] <seb128> om26er, no it's not ;-)
[09:06] <seb128> well you get extra people who can do review and merges
[09:06] <seb128> but it doesn't hurt to have those in the normal sponsoring queue as well
[09:06] <seb128> it means the patch pilot of the day will see it
[09:06] <seb128> which might be faster than waiting on desktopers
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[11:15] <njin> Hello, can someone set to triaged and critical for me bug 728360. Thanks
[11:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728360 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Natty 20110302, apt require insertion of /media/cdrom during a usb installation, causing hanging of installation (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728360
[11:30] <acarpine> I'm trying to reproduce a compiz crash to obtain the stackstrace.
[11:31] <acarpine> Following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash I'm using now gdb
[11:32] <acarpine> but in my case compiz crash automatically at startup
[11:33] <acarpine> does anyone know how should I use gdb to catch the stacktrace in this case?
[11:39] <schoninbenutzung> hi
[11:39] <schoninbenutzung> i hav a question to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/671923
[11:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 671923 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu) "In XScreensaver unlock screen it is not possible to insert "€" sign (affects: 3) (heat: 22)" [Medium,Triaged]
[11:39] <schoninbenutzung> is the develloper Jamie Zawinski informed about the newest posts?
[11:40] <schoninbenutzung> he is not listet as subscriber or as also notified
[12:20] <schoninbenutzung> anyone?
[13:01] <camelinahat> Morning folks.
[13:35] <Fvic> can anyone tell me,waht is CVE?is it different than a bug??
[13:39] <Pici> Fvic: CVE (Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures) is crossplatform system that keeps track of security vulnerabilities.
[13:39] <ikt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures
[13:45] <Fvic> Pici, what is it uses in day ti day time.n how can we use it.?
[13:46] <Fvic> Pici, when i was triaging bugs,(i recently started that),their were many bugs related to this,how to go through them??
[15:14] <nemo> Hey guys. There are a couple of bugs I think are dupes.
[15:14] <nemo> Someone here feel like duping 'em for me? Just in interest of tidiness?
[15:14] <nemo> I tried notifying authors but no one answered...
[15:36] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 4 starting in 25 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[15:38] <seb128> nemo, just mention those on the channel
[15:38] <seb128> nemo, some bug triager will handle them for you I'm sure
[15:39] <nemo> bug #581144 - last comment
[15:39] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 581144 in gparted (Ubuntu) "gparted crashes when usb flash drive inserted. (affects: 4) (heat: 23)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/581144
[15:41] <nemo> bug #615613 - same
[15:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 615613 in parted (Ubuntu) "parted, fdisk, and gparted crash on printing the table (affects: 2) (heat: 17)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615613
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[17:06] <m4gnus> good morning everyone
[17:07] <Abhijit> hi
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[17:22] <m4gnus> So i want to help out with triage...
[17:22] <m4gnus> problem is i have NO idea where to begin.
[17:22] <m4gnus> can someone point me in the right direction please?
[17:28] <camelinahat> m4gnus: I'm in much the same situation. While waiting to see if I can get hooked up with a mentor, I've been reading: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/KnowledgeBase
[17:28] <m4gnus> camelinahat: thank you!
[17:29] <camelinahat> m4gnus: And check out this if you're looking to get paired with a mentor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors
[17:29] <m4gnus> ok cool thanks again
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[17:43] <bdmurray> m4gnus or camelinahat - do either of you have any specific questions I might answer?
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[17:46] <seb128> bdmurray: hi
[17:46] <bdmurray> seb128: hello
[17:46] <seb128> bdmurray: do you know if there was some discussion about close old crash bugs from launchpad
[17:46] <seb128> like the ones for releases which are not supported anymore if they never got a comment
[17:47] <m4gnus> bdmurray: just wanted to get some literature to know where to begin...currently reading through the info that camelinahat sent me. thank you.
[17:47] <seb128> or if they didn't get a duplicate or a comment for over a year
[17:47] <seb128> bdmurray: "if there ever was some discussion" rather
[17:47] <seb128> bdmurray: seems we stack old crash bugs which happened once to one users and where retracing failed etc
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[17:48] <bdmurray> seb128: nothing is immediately coming to mind.
[17:48] <seb128> do you think it would be something easy to script and useful to do?
[17:48] <seb128> should I email the list to start a discussion about it?
[17:49] <bdmurray> seb128: yes, yes and no.  Personally, I don't think I could commit to it until O.
[17:50] <seb128> bdmurray: was the "no" for the email to the list?
[17:51] <seb128> why "no"? it was just to see what other bugsquaders thing about it
[17:51] <bdmurray> seb128: okay, I'm just not sure what would come of it.
[17:52] <seb128> bdmurray: I was not especially asking you to do it and there is no hurry either
[17:52] <bdmurray> seb128: Okay, I didn't think you were - just thought I'm the one most likely to do it.
[17:53] <seb128> you think it's not controversial, it's just a matter of having someone writting the script and do it?
[17:54] <camelinahat> bdmurray: No questions exactly, just being new to the process just a bit nervous about making any changes/package assignments etc without some guidance initially. Don't want to approach things incorrectly and end up making more work for others
[17:54] <bdmurray> seb128: Right, I don't think its controversial because technically those bugs (or a subset of those) are or should be incomplete.  For example if they are tagged apport-retrace failed they should be automatically set to Incomplete and then they'll be eligible for expiration and auto expiration.  Here we are just doing what should have been done.
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[17:55] <bdmurray> camelinahat, m4gnus: I suggest looking at bugs about a package you care about / use.  Then pick one that looks interesting and ask for help here.
[17:55] <seb128> bdmurray: ok thanks, I might have a go at writting the script then, I will bring back the topic at UDS if it doesn't happen before that
[17:56] <bdmurray> seb128: In the same vein we recently stopped reporting most nspluginwrapper bugs in natty too and those also could be closed.
[17:57] <seb128> oh, yeah, there is a stack of those on launchpad still private
[17:57] <seb128> I wanted to ping chrisccoulson about that
[17:57] <seb128> it's like the component getting the most apport crashes
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> i just want it to die
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> please :)
[17:58] <micahg> it was blacklisted already I think
[17:58] <bdmurray> bug 717468
[17:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 717468 in apport (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "apport should not offer to report npviewer.bin crashes (affects: 1) (heat: 198)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/717468
[17:59] <chrisccoulson> whoever kills nspluginwrapper will get a beer at UDS
[17:59] <chrisccoulson> seb128 ;)
[18:00] <seb128> lol
[18:00] <seb128> that's the spirit!
[18:00] <chrisccoulson> seriously though, we're just waiting for 64-bit flash
[18:00] <chrisccoulson> nspluginwrapper is totally dead, and has been for a long time
[18:00] <chrisccoulson> it's certainly not something i plan to spend any time on ;)
[18:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I have on my list to look at the merge proposal for 1.3.0
[18:01] <chrisccoulson> just do it ;)
[18:01] <chrisccoulson> it's not going to be any worse than what we have now
[18:01] <ari-tczew> micahg: merge with Debian?
[18:01] <micahg> ari-tczew: yeah, someone started it about 18 months ago
[18:01] <micahg> chrisccoulson: it fails to build an needs work, that's why it didn't get into maverick :)
[18:02] <chrisccoulson> ah
[18:02] <micahg> and I'd actually rather spend time porting other things to xul 2.0 then nspluginwrapper
[18:02] <chrisccoulson> ari-tczew, there you go, you could maybe look at that ;)
[18:03] <chrisccoulson> is nspluginwrapper using xpcom at all, or is it pure NPAPI?
[18:03] <chrisccoulson> if it's not the latter, then it probably should get blacklisted for IPC
[18:06] <micahg> chrisccoulson: seems like none of the above
[18:07] <chrisccoulson> heh
[18:09] <BUGabundo> its all your fault chrisccoulson
[18:09] <BUGabundo> :)
[18:10] <chrisccoulson> it's always my fault
[18:10] <chrisccoulson> that's just a fact of life ;)
[18:11] <bdmurray> m4gnus and camelinahat: For example I really like gpsprune and use it a lot so would look for bugs about it since I am familiar with the software and can recreate them.  Also because I'd like it to be better.
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[18:27] <bcurtiswx> if anyone catches om26er please have him ping me
[18:27]  * Pici sets a om26er trap
[18:31] <bcurtiswx> he's been caught forwarding incomplete bug reports upstream! now he must be banished to the lowest depths of bit city!
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[19:18] <MadCow108> has the dpkg-reconfigure behaviour changed in natty somehow?
[19:20] <MadCow108> dpkg-reconfigure apt-listchanges does not anymore being up a configuration prompt
[19:27] <MadCow108> hm its a dpkg-reconfigure problem, postfix also does not work -.-
[19:36] <Ampelbein> MadCow108: works here
[19:37] <MadCow108> weird
[19:38] <MadCow108> does not work in my vm and my natty chroot
[19:38] <MadCow108> ah yes forgot to mention only natty affected
[19:38] <MadCow108> maverick works
[19:45] <MadCow108> lets check my real installation brb
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[19:49] <MadCow108> ok here it works -.- strange my vm must be f*** up
[20:25] <bdmurray> nigelb: how is the class prep going?
[20:30] <njin> Hello, please set bug 728639 as triaged and critical for me. Thanks
[20:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728639 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "kubuntu 20110303, ubiquity crash (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728639
[20:38] <Ampelbein> MadCow108: did you figure out your dpkg-reconfigure problem in your vm? what kind of vm is it?
[21:08] <CarlFK> pxe/presseed - this isn't working: (doesn't show up in etc/apt/)  d-i apt-setup/local0/repository string http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty maverick restricted universe multiverse
[21:08] <CarlFK> what package do I bug?
[21:53] <CarlFK> Bug #728710   - anything I can do to get that triaged?
[21:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728710 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "d-i apt-setup/local0/repository not working (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728710
[22:06] <njin> Hello, can someone set bug 728714 as hight for me. thanks
[22:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728714 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 20110303, partman dont show all the disks in guided resize modality (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728714
[22:07] <ansgar> bdmurray: Could you renew my ubuntu-bugcontrol membership (aburch)? Thanks :)
[22:41] <penalvch> Looking to close Invalid bug 627365 OP not working w/ bug anymore, no reproduce steps, no document, no test in LibreOffice, failed retrace, etc. Objections? :D
[22:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 627365 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in free() (affects: 5) (dups: 6) (heat: 69)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627365
[23:29] <erkan^> Hello. I have a problem with Java Chat: I cannot close java applets in my browser, when i clicking the 'X'button just nothing happens. Can someone help me?