artfwo | is it allowed to package data files with CC-BY-NC-SA license or "free for non-commercial use" license? | 03:42 |
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artfwo | I mean, is it accepted in Debian/Ubuntu archives? | 03:43 |
james_w | artfwo, only in non-free/multiverse | 03:43 |
artfwo | james_w: if I have a mix of public domain and non-free files, can I produce 2 packages - for universe and multiverse respectively from one source package? | 03:45 |
james_w | artfwo, should be possible, provided the source package is in multiverse | 03:45 |
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broder | james_w: i know that packages split across main and universe have their source package in main. can you split "up" like that? | 05:32 |
micahg | broder: that's more of a closure issue than anything else | 05:33 |
micahg | I think | 05:33 |
* micahg retracts his comment | 05:34 | |
MTecknology | So.. if I have a man page provided by package A and there is package A, B, and C provided by the packaging; what's the right way to tell dh_link to link the man page for those? | 05:43 |
MTecknology | they all need to provide the same man page; but the man page is exactly the same | 05:44 |
MTecknology | also; B and C depend on A | 05:45 |
RAOF | You mean - A ships a binary + a manpage for said binary. That manpage also describes a binary found in B and C. Yes? | 05:48 |
MTecknology | RAOF: exactly | 05:49 |
RAOF | So, I think you just want to add them to debian/packagename.links | 05:50 |
RAOF | As normal, a one-line per link, whitespace delimited $SRC $DEST file. | 05:50 |
MTecknology | but would would my source be? | 05:51 |
MTecknology | they'd be the same file; right? | 05:51 |
RAOF | No, because you've got different binaries in B and C? | 05:51 |
MTecknology | nope.. | 05:51 |
RAOF | So their manpages need to be named different things? | 05:51 |
StevenK | If the binary has *exactly* the same name, you don't need a link | 05:51 |
RAOF | But if the binary has exactly the same name you have other problems, such as playing the Replaces game :) | 05:52 |
MTecknology | I'm guessing I can't just put the man page in each package and let them all install the same thing? | 05:53 |
RAOF | Does B conflict with A? | 05:53 |
RAOF | It sounds like it should, because it's got an identically-named binary? | 05:53 |
MTecknology | no | 05:53 |
MTecknology | B and C conflict; but i already dealt with that | 05:54 |
RAOF | So this is something like A=foo-common, B=foo-type-one C=foo-type-two? | 05:54 |
RAOF | Regardless of how this ends up, its likely that lintian will erroneously flag your binary as not having a manpage. Feel free to override that warning. | 05:55 |
MTecknology | yup; that's what i have; only worded much nicer | 05:55 |
* RAOF heads out to exercise. | 05:55 | |
broder | so if i take lp:~jelmer/ubuntu/natty/samba4/various-fixes, does anybody want to take lp:~w-shackleton/ubuntu/natty/x2vnc/x2vnc-fix-726783 ? | 05:56 |
MTecknology | lintian-override file... [<package>[ <type>]: ]<lintian-tag>[ [*]<lintian-info>[*]]. <package> <-- does this mean that anything inside the brackets can be ignored?.. | 06:34 |
MTecknology | I'm struggling with adding a lintian override... I can't figure out how to write the thing.. | 07:33 |
MTecknology | nginx-full package does not have a binary; but binary is provided by nginx-common which is a required package | 07:34 |
broder | MTecknology: i...thought you could generally take the lintian output and paste it in directly | 07:34 |
MTecknology | I tried to add to debian/lintian-overrides nginx-full binary: binary-without-manpage usr/sbin/nginx * Supplied by nginx-common package. * nginx-full | 07:34 |
MTecknology | broder: http://dpaste.com/467878/ | 07:34 |
MTecknology | broder: should I paste in only "nginx-full: binary-without-manpage usr/sbin/nginx" ? | 07:35 |
broder | i think so. try it? | 07:35 |
MTecknology | alrighty | 07:35 |
MTecknology | now the long painful build time.... | 07:37 |
MTecknology | the proc is good; but that's about it | 07:38 |
MTecknology | broder: that didn't work.. I put that exact line "nginx-full: binary-without-manpage usr/sbin/nginx" into debina/lintian-overrides | 07:47 |
broder | wouldn't you want debian/nginx-full.lintian-overrides? | 07:48 |
MTecknology | ther'es three of them; I thought I could do just one file to cover all three | 07:49 |
broder | i don't think it works like that | 07:50 |
MTecknology | I'll try with separate files tomorrow; it's getting really late here | 07:50 |
MTecknology | thanks for the help. :) | 07:50 |
broder | np | 07:50 |
dholbach | good morning | 08:10 |
tumbleweed | dholbach: morning. Care to bzr pull the sponsor queue? | 08:11 |
dholbach | tumbleweed, done - thanks for the fix | 08:13 |
tumbleweed | dholbach: just a minor tweak :) | 08:14 |
dholbach | :) | 08:14 |
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om26er | Hi! how do I work on a package to gets its latest version in Ubuntu? I mean its simple to backport a patch what how do I work on a new upstream release? | 10:37 |
om26er | for example: telepathy-logger's launchpad maintanance branch is bzr branch lp:ubuntu/telepathy-logger now there is a new upstream release what do i do? | 10:43 |
om26er | should I make a diff between the above branch and the new release and apply it to the branch and commit? | 10:43 |
Laney | there is a command "bzr merge-upstream" that might do what you want | 10:44 |
Laney | I think that's the bzr-ish way of doing it...? | 10:44 |
Laney | om26er: you should probably coordinate in #ubuntu-desktop for that package (and look at merging in the packaging with Debian) | 10:45 |
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Laney | alternatively (and preferably IMO) you can /do/ the upgrade in Debian and then merge/sync it back into Ubuntu | 10:46 |
om26er | thanks Laney i'll look into these options | 10:48 |
Laney | for debian you want #debian-gnome on irc.debian.org | 10:49 |
Laney | argh, he's gone (but I just noticed 0.2.4 is in NEW) | 11:13 |
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james_w | broder, good point, maybe you can't do that | 13:51 |
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c2tarun | can anyone please help me with this error http://paste.kde.org/6297/ error can be fixed by moving -lm and -lrt at the end. but when I am making this change to one of the Makefiles, on rebuild makefile is getting restored to its previous state. | 14:12 |
ari-tczew | c2tarun: maybe again debian-changes* is introduced? check debian/patches | 14:13 |
c2tarun | ari-tczew: there are no patches, infact package is not following any patching system | 14:14 |
c2tarun | ari-tczew: there was also a file Makefile.in in the same folder, I made change to that as well :) now buil successful ;) | 14:20 |
ari-tczew | c2tarun: congrats | 14:26 |
c2tarun | ari-tczew: I have a doubt, I thought that Makefile.in was created automatically during build by Makefile (or some other file) but here when I changed Makefile.in it worked. I was making same changes to Makefile.in of one other package ( dont remember may be chaplin) then it was not working, I had to make change to Makefile.am there. | 14:30 |
ari-tczew | c2tarun: sometimes it needs to get applied in these 2 both files. | 14:31 |
c2tarun | ari-tczew: ok | 14:31 |
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bdmurray | hyperair: I'm a bit confused about how bug 725316 was hijacked. Could you help me out? | 15:27 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 725316 in banshee (Ubuntu) "banshee 1.9.4-1ubuntu1 crashes on now playing view with wikipedia plugin enabled (by default, main banshee package)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725316 | 15:27 |
hyperair | bdmurray: the description shows a BadMatch error returned by X. | 15:29 |
hyperair | bdmurray: christian was seeing a completely different bug involving missing dependencies | 15:30 |
bdmurray | hyperair: isn't christian the reporter of the bug? when I think of hijacking I think of a person other than the reporter changing the bug | 15:31 |
hyperair | eh? | 15:31 |
kklimonda | ScottK: any idea why there is no libqwebkit.so provided by libqtwebkit4? Without it QtCreator doesn't display WebView widget | 15:31 |
kklimonda | (or rather qt designer) | 15:31 |
hyperair | bdmurray: ah hell | 15:32 |
hyperair | >_> | 15:32 |
hyperair | bdmurray: looks like i got it wrong | 15:32 |
ScottK | kklimonda: No. I suspect debfx knows though. | 15:32 |
kklimonda | debfx: ^ ? | 15:32 |
kklimonda | oh well, you did ping him already :) | 15:32 |
bdmurray | hyperair: not a big deal. In case you didn't know the firefox-lp-improvements extension identifies original reporter comments. | 15:33 |
hyperair | lp-improvements? | 15:33 |
hyperair | what's that? | 15:33 |
bdmurray | Its an extension of compiled greasemonkey scripts that add some functionality to launchpad | 15:34 |
bdmurray | https://edge.launchpad.net/~gm-dev-launchpad/+archive/ppa | 15:34 |
debfx | kklimonda: libqwebkit.so (without the "t")? | 15:35 |
dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek Day 4 starting in 25 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom | 15:36 |
bdmurray | hyperair: and an example http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=96 | 15:37 |
hyperair | bdmurray: is there any reason we can't have this functionality added directly to launchpad? | 15:37 |
kklimonda | debfx: erm, libqwebview.so - it should go to /usr/share/qt4/plugins/designer according to some documentation I've found | 15:37 |
kklimonda | debfx: there is a bug about it on debian bts: http://bugs.debian.org/612974 | 15:38 |
bdmurray | hyperair: because Launchpad development is hard? More seriously though some things have been added to Launchpad and some are Ubuntu specific (showing team badges). | 15:38 |
hyperair | hm | 15:38 |
bdmurray | As an LP developer I'd think highlighting reporter comments makes sense. | 15:39 |
debfx | kklimonda: oh, that fell victim to the qtwebkit split which upstream doesn't really support | 15:40 |
ScottK | debfx: Can we fix it? | 15:43 |
kklimonda | debfx: is it fixable? | 15:43 |
ScottK | ;-) | 15:43 |
debfx | ScottK, kklimonda: we could copy the source code from qt4-x11 to qtwebkit-source and patch the build system | 15:47 |
ChogyDan | Is this normal? Every time I use dch, it always applies maverick as the release when I'm working on a lucid package. I thought it was supposed to match the release, ie apply lucid to a new entry when the previous is lucid | 15:48 |
ari-tczew | ChogyDan: it bases on system which you're running. | 15:48 |
ChogyDan | ari-tczew: :( is there any way to get it to base on the previous instead? | 15:49 |
ari-tczew | ChogyDan: dch -i -D lucid ? | 15:49 |
ChogyDan | ari-tczew: yeah, fair enough, thanks! | 15:50 |
ari-tczew | ChogyDan: np | 15:51 |
kklimonda | debfx: bah, it does sound like quite a lot of work, on the other hand current situation is damn confusing.. I wonder if there are any other plugins that are missing because of that | 15:54 |
seidos | empathy is better than ex-chat right? | 16:49 |
ari-tczew | seidos: it depends on taste | 16:50 |
seidos | ari-tczew: motu? | 16:50 |
ari-tczew | seidos: me? yes. does it matter about your question whether motu or not? | 16:51 |
seidos | ari-tczew: yes | 16:51 |
seidos | until i get kicked, then no | 16:51 |
ari-tczew | seidos: are you going to ask everyone whether is he/she motu? | 16:52 |
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seidos | if i got a job at ubuntu i'd give half my money to hire another | 18:34 |
Rhonda | ? | 18:37 |
seidos | question? | 18:38 |
Rhonda | I have a dejavu, someone said something similar just recently | 18:39 |
Rhonda | Are you HPV? | 18:39 |
Rhonda | ah :) -!- HPV is now known as seidos | 18:39 |
Rhonda | Though, as generous as it sounds, at the same time I think it won't work. Either they are paying way too much to make that possible, or half the money won't be able to make a proper living | 18:41 |
seidos | i am not HPV, though i have it Rhonda | 18:41 |
seidos | do you have it? | 18:41 |
Rhonda | have what? | 18:41 |
seidos | Rhonda: who is "they"? | 18:41 |
seidos | HPV | 18:41 |
seidos | efficient speak, not double speak | 18:42 |
seidos | u got my back Rhonda ? | 18:42 |
seidos | go outside? | 18:42 |
seidos | walk around? | 18:42 |
Rhonda | Your nick was HPV before, that's what I meant. | 18:43 |
Rhonda | And they are canonical in that case. | 18:43 |
seidos | Rhonda: i just ran around the block, and in the driveway and lawn. dog has no leash. | 18:50 |
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ari-tczew | 11 entries in sponsors overview \o/ | 20:06 |
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seidos | right view, right intention, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration | 21:59 |
ari-tczew | seidos: right sentences on right channel ;) | 22:04 |
seidos | ari-tczew: trying to use empathy to join right channel | 22:04 |
seidos | ari-tczew: are you an op? | 22:04 |
seidos | an agent? | 22:05 |
ari-tczew | seidos: why empathy? | 22:05 |
ari-tczew | seidos: nope, ask persia | 22:05 |
ari-tczew | !op | 22:05 |
ubottu | Help! Hobbsee, Riddell, sladen, fbond, mneptok, gnomefreak, Seveas, dholbach, elkbuntu, PriceChild, or jpds! | 22:05 |
seidos | ari-tczew: part of the default packages | 22:05 |
seidos | ari-tczew: are you an agent? | 22:05 |
ari-tczew | seidos: agent? guess no | 22:05 |
seidos | ari-tczew: was that a command? | 22:05 |
maco | why do you need an op? whats the emergency? | 22:06 |
fbond | Odd, I should not be an op. | 22:06 |
ari-tczew | and persia should be IIRC | 22:06 |
seidos | maco: ask ari-tczew | 22:06 |
seidos | how's persia doing? | 22:06 |
micahg | maco: I think he did it by accident, but I think seidos is very close to needing to be kicked | 22:06 |
ari-tczew | :) | 22:07 |
seidos | ari-tczew: is persia doing alright? | 22:07 |
maco | havent seen persia in a bit | 22:07 |
ari-tczew | seidos: I don't understand. | 22:07 |
maco | still hasnt added me to the DMB mailing list | 22:07 |
seidos | ari-tczew: middle east revolution | 22:07 |
seidos | mah-co | 22:07 |
seidos | mama | 22:07 |
ari-tczew | seidos: are you drugged? | 22:07 |
* maco raises an eyebrow | 22:07 | |
seidos | ari-tczew: negative | 22:08 |
ari-tczew | seidos: drunk? | 22:08 |
seidos | ari-tczew: define drug | 22:08 |
maco | are you here for constructive purposes? | 22:08 |
seidos | ari-tczew: define drunk | 22:08 |
ari-tczew | take less then | 22:08 |
seidos | maco: affirmative | 22:08 |
seidos | 1 | 22:08 |
seidos | ari-tczew: less what? | 22:08 |
maco | please define | 22:08 |
seidos | brain chemicals? | 22:08 |
ari-tczew | seidos: alcohol | 22:08 |
seidos | ari-tczew: 0 alcohol | 22:08 |
ari-tczew | also brain chemicals | 22:08 |
* seidos dies | 22:08 | |
seidos | 0 brain chemicals = death? | 22:08 |
seidos | yes | 22:08 |
ari-tczew | seidos: if you think you're OK, hit your head on the wall | 22:09 |
seidos | brain chemicals at nominal levels | 22:09 |
seidos | ari-tczew: once | 22:09 |
maco | seidos: what are the constructive purposes for your visit? | 22:09 |
seidos | ari-tczew: are you okay? | 22:09 |
ari-tczew | seidos: you can twice if you wish | 22:09 |
seidos | maco: metta | 22:09 |
seidos | ari-tczew: i do not | 22:09 |
ari-tczew | maco: he is looking for friends | 22:09 |
* micahg thinks its a bot | 22:10 | |
maco | this channel is for development work | 22:10 |
maco | micahg: nah, too irregular | 22:10 |
seidos | cease suffering | 22:10 |
maco | seidos: take it elsewhere, please | 22:10 |
ari-tczew | micahg: nope, too inteligent | 22:10 |
seidos | what package are you working on maco ? | 22:10 |
seidos | upgrades | 22:10 |
seidos | what upgrades? | 22:10 |
seidos | to what packages? | 22:10 |
maco | at the moment, i'm not doing any packaging work. later this evening or tomorrow, qt/atspi | 22:11 |
seidos | it was more like a tap | 22:12 |
tsimpson | now back to the silence :) | 22:13 |
maco | tsimpson: too soon | 22:20 |
tsimpson | maco: see my 2nd +q | 22:22 |
maco | tsimpson: i thought the exact string had to match, so you would need more *s | 22:22 |
tsimpson | IPs look behind hosts and cloaks | 22:23 |
tsimpson | (except webchat cloaks, but that's because the IP would be for whatever server runs webchat) | 22:23 |
maco | oh ok | 22:24 |
maco | neat | 22:24 |
Rcart | I'm working in this bug 725217 (just some typos) | 22:28 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 725217 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Typos in Edubuntu 11.04 slideshow" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725217 | 22:28 |
Rcart | but the patch in the bug report does not cover the typos in po/ files | 22:28 |
Rcart | So, I asked in -translators, with no response. I'd like to know if I need to patch the typos in po/ files too | 22:29 |
Rcart | ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu is a native package and I'll apply a patch to it. Are there any recommendations or rules that differs from non-native packages while working on this kind of packages? | 23:54 |
Rcart | btw, I know that that d/source/format must be 3.0 (native) | 23:55 |
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