| chrisccoulson | fta - you still there? | 01:38 |
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| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| LLStarks | ctrl+L on the addon tab: http://imgur.com/aeLej | 02:32 |
| LLStarks | wat | 02:32 |
| LLStarks | what kind of madman would do that instead of putting the adressbar in the addon tab? | 02:32 |
| chrisccoulson | w00t - https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/thunderbird-next \o/ | 12:01 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, what is w00t? the ftbfs? ;) | 12:14 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, not so much ;) | 12:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i just noticed that. i guess i should use pbuilder occasionally ;) | 12:15 |
| napster | Can I ask a question related to xul based application development here? | 12:36 |
| napster | Can I ask a question related to xul based application development here asac ? | 12:37 |
| asac | napster: this is the wrong place ... its about integrating xul/ffox etc. into ubuntu | 12:38 |
| asac | not about development | 12:38 |
| asac | irc.mozilla.org has a few channels around that | 12:38 |
| asac | topic | 12:38 |
| napster | asac: oh ok. But I'm unable to connect to that server. It shows nothing when I try /join #addons | 12:40 |
| chrisccoulson | right, thunderbird builds should work now :) | 12:40 |
| asac | napster: not sure if that channel is supposed to exist ... start here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC | 12:41 |
| napster | asac: ty | 12:41 |
| asac | napster: http://irc.mozilla.org/ | 12:41 |
| asac | thats a more complete list | 12:41 |
| asac | not sure | 12:42 |
| asac | you will find out ;) | 12:42 |
| asac | i am sure | 12:42 |
| napster | asac: ok, my browser shows nothing for that page but timed out | 12:42 |
| napster | asac: I mean http://irc.mozilla.org/ | 12:42 |
| asac | works for me | 12:43 |
| asac | must be on your side | 12:43 |
| asac | napster: its also a different IRC network: irc.mozilla.org (for your client) | 12:43 |
| chrisccoulson | napster, you want #xulrunner on irc.mozilla.org | 12:43 |
| napster | chrisccoulson: asac: yeah, I know, but can't connect to that server at all from my xchat :) | 12:44 |
| napster | its shows no errors or warning | 12:44 |
| napster | Disconnected (Connection timed out). | 12:44 |
| napster | Cycling to next server in Mozilla Net... | 12:44 |
| napster | this is only what I can see | 12:44 |
| asac | i am no ton that server atm | 12:45 |
| asac | so no clue | 12:45 |
| asac | but the website opens for me quickly | 12:45 |
| asac | might be your IP is a previous spammer one | 12:45 |
| asac | if you have dynamic IP try to get a new IP | 12:45 |
| napster | asac: never, I've been to that newtwork for the first time | 12:45 |
| asac | do you have a static IP? | 12:45 |
| napster | asac: no | 12:45 |
| napster | its dynamic | 12:46 |
| asac | then try to get a new IP | 12:46 |
| napster | Yeah I guess os | 12:46 |
| napster | *so | 12:46 |
| asac | yours might have been used by a intrusive hacker/virus etc. | 12:46 |
| napster | see you | 12:46 |
| asac | cu | 12:46 |
| napster | asac: no hope :( | 12:53 |
| napster | anyway leave it | 12:53 |
| asac | your whole IP block might be blacklisted | 13:00 |
| napster | asac: Thats is awesome. I'm not able to connect because some else has spammed them! Very nice :) | 13:02 |
| asac | dont know | 13:02 |
| asac | just a guess ;) | 13:02 |
| asac | if you can connect to freenode and not irc.mozilla.org i would think it has something to do with you :) | 13:02 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: does irc.mozilla.org work for you atm? | 13:02 |
| * asac is not connected there | 13:02 | |
| asac | napster: for the meantime try mibbit.com | 13:03 |
| asac | its a webinterface ... maybe that has mozilla net support | 13:03 |
| asac | really sucky thing, but if nothing else works ;) | 13:03 |
| napster | asac: that sounds good for now. thanks mate | 13:04 |
| asac | yeah works for me | 13:04 |
| asac | i am in #addons using mibbit.com ;) | 13:04 |
| asac | but #xulrunner might be better for you ... not sure | 13:05 |
| napster | ok | 13:05 |
| asac | i am mostly did core development ;) | 13:05 |
| napster | asac: oh, thats good bro | 13:06 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - sorry, popped out for some lunch | 13:52 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, irc.mozilla.org is working here | 13:52 |
| asac | np | 13:56 |
| === dpm_ is now known as dpm | ||
| chrisccoulson | fta - have you got a few minutes for setting up the thunderbird dailies? | 14:02 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - are you able to add me as admin to ~mozillateam? I can't create PPA's at the moment :( | 14:03 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg alreday tried, but he couldn't do it | 14:03 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, sure | 14:15 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - so, the current thunderbird stable branch in natty is now coming from lp:~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-3.1.head | 14:16 |
| chrisccoulson | what is currently lp:~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.head will become the thunderbird-3.3 packages (although I've not made any changes to that branch yet, but i've got the changes ready to push) | 14:17 |
| chrisccoulson | so, it's basically the same layout as firefox then | 14:17 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: not? | 14:23 |
| asac | ok | 14:23 |
| === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley | ||
| asac | chrisccoulson: gnomefreak is owner ;) | 14:24 |
| asac | chrisccoulson: is he ever here? | 14:24 |
| asac | try to contact him or talk to IS to make you owner of the team | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | asac - i haven't seen hi for a while | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | *him | 14:24 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 14:24 |
| asac | one sec | 14:24 |
| fta | maybe clean-up the team too; too many idle people in there | 14:30 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, today, i have: thunderbird-3.1.head = lp:~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird-3.1.head and thunderbird.head = lp:~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.head | 14:33 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, that looks right | 14:33 |
| fta | i didn't change anything yet | 14:34 |
| fta | and the bot has: http://paste.ubuntu.com/574995/ | 14:35 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - ah, ok. so, the "thunderbird" source package will be coming from thunderbird-3.1.head, which is the current stable version | 14:35 |
| chrisccoulson | athunderbird.head will be "thunderbird-3.3" | 14:36 |
| chrisccoulson | *and | 14:36 |
| chrisccoulson | my keys keep not working :( | 14:36 |
| fta | hmm | 14:36 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, the stable branch is currently called thunderbird.head right? | 14:43 |
| fta | the daily is thunderbird-3.1.head | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i'm confused now :/ | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 14:43 |
| fta | you want me to swap those, is that correct? | 14:43 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - there are daily builds for thunderbird-3.1? i only see thunderbird in the PPA | 14:45 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, http://paste.ubuntu.com/575004/ | 14:45 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - assuming i understand the configuration, i think we want something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575003/ | 14:47 |
| fta | the 2nd vpattern is 3.3, not 3.1 | 14:48 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i didn't notice that bit ;) | 14:48 |
| fta | that's what preventing the bot to push the dailies atm | 14:48 |
| fta | so you need to swap the branches in lp | 14:49 |
| fta | right? | 14:50 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i've branched what is currently lp:thunderbird to lp:thunderbird-3.1.head | 14:52 |
| chrisccoulson | and then, i have the changes to lp:thunderbird.head stored locally which update it to 3.3 | 14:53 |
| fta | hm, what happened to the old lp:thunderbird-3.1.head branch then? | 14:55 |
| fta | to be consistent with ff, i should call the daily thunderbird-trunk.head | 14:59 |
| fta | pff | 15:00 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i moved the old lp:thunderbird-3.1.head branch to lp:thunderbird-3.1.head.old, but i didn't realise your bot was still using it when i did that | 15:00 |
| fta | well, it's not, since trunk moved away from 3.1 | 15:01 |
| fta | n-m, i'll manage | 15:02 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 15:02 |
| m_conley | Hey all - I've started work on integrating Thunderbird into the Messaging Menu. Mozilla Labs project page is here: https://mozillalabs.com/messaging/messaging-menu/ | 15:04 |
| m_conley | Any and all feedback welcome. :) | 15:04 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, could you please rename thunderbird.head to thunderbird-trunk.head in lp, to match firefox? | 15:04 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, sure | 15:05 |
| fta | it has thunderbird-3.3 as src package name, right? | 15:05 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, it does. ok, i've renamed that now | 15:06 |
| chrisccoulson | in future, we'll probably just use firefox-trunk and thunderbird-trunk as the source package names too | 15:07 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, that's awesome :-) | 15:09 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: thanks! :D Pretty stoked. It needs some polish, but I'm happy to see it mostly work. | 15:09 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, the extension is arch-specific isn't it? | 15:12 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: oh, yes - good point. :/ I should probably add that to the add-on listing. | 15:12 |
| m_conley | i386 for now. | 15:12 |
| chrisccoulson | heh :) | 15:12 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: I may have asked you this before, but when you put together the build structure for your globalmenu-extension... did you just go at it via trial and error, or was there some documentation you were referring to? | 15:29 |
| chrisccoulson | m_conley, it was mostly just copying config/ and build/, and other bits i knew that i needed. but some of it was trial and error ;) | 15:37 |
| m_conley | chrisccoulson: gotcha. thanks. :) | 15:37 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: shouldn't thunderbird.head stay the current dev release and a new thunderbird-trunk become thunderbird-3.3? | 15:57 |
| fta | micahg, we don't have a firefox.head branch | 16:28 |
| micahg | fta: yep, but we don't have a versioned thunderbird branch at the moment for each release and I'd like to keep it that way | 16:33 |
| micahg | I'd prefer thunderbird.head to remain the distro head branch | 16:34 |
| fta | we have thunderbird-3.1.head | 16:36 |
| fta | you last touched it months ago | 16:36 |
| micahg | fta: yep, but then it was merged into thunderbird.head | 16:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't mind having thunderbird.head for the current 3.1 stable releases | 16:46 |
| chrisccoulson | but we should probably do the same for firefox at some point too ;) | 16:46 |
| chrisccoulson | hmm, third time lucky with the tbird builds :( | 16:46 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: it made sense when we weren't doing major version upgrades in stable releases | 16:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess the only issue with it is, when we eventually roll out thunderbird 3.3, users on older releases will get updated to 3.3 if they are using the daily builds | 16:49 |
| chrisccoulson | whereas, that isn't happening for firefox because we still have the daily builds coming off lp:firefox-3.6.head, and natty is using lp:firefox-4.0.head | 16:50 |
| micahg | well, that's what happened with firefox I think, when 3.6 was stable | 16:50 |
| micahg | ah, hmm, I see your point | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure how to handle that | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | but, on the flip-side - when firefox 4 is released, we are going to lose 4.0 daily builds | 16:51 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmmm L/ | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | :/ even | 16:52 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I think we should make the "firefox" dailies come off firefox-4.0 then | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | even for maverick and lucid users? | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | it almost seems like we need more than 1 PPA ;) | 16:52 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - how does this work for chromium? :) | 16:52 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yeah, that's what we did with 3.6 | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok | 16:53 |
| chrisccoulson | if we've done that in the past, then i don't mind doing it again | 16:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: we can make firefox-3.6.head push a source firefox-3.6 package if we need the dailies still | 16:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: chromium has channels the users subscribe to, daily, dev, beta, stable | 16:54 |
| === mdeslaur_ is now known as mdeslaur | ||
| chrisccoulson | ok, i'm happy with keeping lp:thunderbird.head for the current stable (rather than using lp:thunderbird-3.1.head) | 16:58 |
| chrisccoulson | we should probably discuss workflow at UDS though, we have a lot of branches now and i guess this is going to get more difficult in the future ;) | 16:59 |
| chrisccoulson | ^^^fta - will you be coming to UDS? | 16:59 |
| magcius | where is the chromium daily ppa? | 17:28 |
| === debfx_ is now known as debfx | ||
| micahg | magcius: I think it's ppa:chromium-daily/ppa | 17:29 |
| magcius | ok. | 17:31 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, nope. | 17:31 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, micahg: grr, i already renamed everyting | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - that's ok, don't worry about it ;) | 17:33 |
| micahg | yeah, it's fine | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | wth is eToken? | 17:34 |
| chrisccoulson | these issues keep cropping up: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65515213/DpkgTerminalLog.txt | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | applications should not be adding private locations to the ld search path! | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | grrrrrrrrrrrrr | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | is this going to be another ubuntuzilla? ;) | 17:35 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I don't think that's us | 17:35 |
| chrisccoulson | no, it's not us. i'm just wondering what it is though | 17:36 |
| chrisccoulson | it's especially bad adding themselves to the ld search path when they ship such antiquated versions of nss | 17:40 |
| * chrisccoulson is going to have to get the whip out | 17:40 | |
| micahg | well, installing stuff in /usr/lib is generally frowned upon anyways | 17:40 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, they aren't doing that. they're installing nss in to a private location in /opt and then presumably dropping a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d | 17:40 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I was referring to the eToken stuff :) | 17:40 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a good job that firefox isn't using the system nss | 17:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder if it's this? http://www3.safenet-inc.com/support/etoken.aspx | 17:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i might send them an e-mail | 17:41 |
| === brosnan is now known as kbrosnan | ||
| micahg | did you see the news about js185? | 18:07 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - not yet, are they doing a tarball release though? i've been pinging them in #jsapi about that ;) | 18:08 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yes, sounds like it's planned | 18:08 |
| micahg | which means /usr/lib/mozjs185.0.0 hopefully | 18:08 |
| chrisccoulson | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=628723 | 18:09 |
| ubot2 | Mozilla bug 628723 in JavaScript Engine "Create JS 1.8.5 source release" [Normal,New] | 18:09 |
| micahg | jdstrand: what do you think about bug 728621 | 19:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 728621 in firefox "Apparmor profile works around a fixed security bug in sun-java6" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728621 | 19:39 |
| jdstrand | micahg: seems fine to revert so long as it is tested | 19:41 |
| micahg | jdstrand: is running through the java test suite on the build sufficient? | 19:41 |
| jdstrand | micahg: should be. probably something for natty only | 19:41 |
| micahg | jdstrand: revert only in natty or test only in natty? | 19:43 |
| jdstrand | micahg: both | 19:44 |
| micahg | jdstrand: so leave the stable releases alone WRT this | 19:45 |
| jdstrand | yes | 19:45 |
| micahg | jdstrand: k, it's in the apparmor abstraction now, so should I prepare a merge request for apparmor? | 19:45 |
| jdstrand | sure, or a debdiff | 19:46 |
| fta | jdstrand, micahg: do you want the arm ftbfs fix for this ch release or is it fine to wait for the next one? | 20:15 |
| * micahg defers to jdstrand on this | 20:15 | |
| fta | btw, the next beta is very active, i won't be surprised to see it become stable very soon | 20:16 |
| fta | linux/beta (10.0.648.126 -> 10.0.648.127) | 20:16 |
| micahg | they've also just about reached they're 6 week release deadline | 20:16 |
| jdstrand | fta: which fix is this, dropping the arch or actually getting armel builds? | 20:17 |
| jdstrand | s/builds/working builds/ | 20:18 |
| fta | jdstrand, i can get it to build "theoretically", it was my fault, a flag dropped by mistake. | 20:19 |
| jdstrand | fta: yes, please let's get armel building again with the next upload (but not a special 9.0.597.107~r75357-0ubuntu0.10.10.2 upload) | 20:20 |
| fta | ok | 20:21 |
| jdstrand | fta: so whenever google has a new security update for us, we'll get the path then | 20:21 |
| jdstrand | fta: thanks for finding the fix, even if it is just theoretical :) | 20:21 |
| fta | ok, fix committed, so i won't forget it | 20:28 |
| === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away | ||
| BUGabundo | evening | 22:55 |
| fta | jdstrand, are the QRT:scripts fully automatic? i mean, would it be possible to run them without a display? | 22:58 |
| jdstrand | fta: no, they are not automatic in any way. they are interactive | 22:58 |
| jdstrand | fta: well, test-browser.py. most of QRT:scripts can be run without a display | 22:59 |
| fta | i guess i should test those one day | 23:02 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, you didn't change the tb 3.3 src package name yet? | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i thought i pushed my changes already? | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | 1 sec | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - yeah, it's pushed already | 23:06 |
| fta | hm | 23:07 |
| fta | why is my bot pulling the same sources over and over again then?.. | 23:07 |
| fta | oh, no cache | 23:08 |
| fta | could you please add one? | 23:08 |
| fta | ff and xul have one already | 23:09 |
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