[02:30] <h00k> fail.
[02:30] <Pici> >>> "".join([chr(ord(i)-1) for i in "sn!.sg!+"])
[02:30] <Pici> 'rm -rf *'
[02:30] <h00k> yeah...
[02:30] <h00k> people are silly.
[02:31] <Pici> Although it wouldn't run unless you surrounded the whole thing with $() or ``
[02:31] <Pici> or maybe it would.  I've never used os.system()
[02:32] <h00k> I'm not about to test it, anyway.
[02:33] <rww> Pici: I think it would.
[02:33] <rww> you pass a string to os.system(). 'rm -whatever' is a string ;)
[02:34] <maco> yep
[02:34] <Pici> rww: mmm, seems that way indeed.
[02:49] <rww> I really hope "what." is a valid answer to the floodbot P=NP question.
[02:51] <rww> I wish people would stop repeating the de-coded malicious commands that we ban people for saying.
[02:51]  * rww is grumpy
[03:46] <rww> niko: incoming highlights
[03:46] <rww> everyone else: incoming expiration of floodbot bans over a week old
[04:07] <txwikinger> Something wrong with the Floodbot? I am getting thrown out of #ubuntu all the time
[04:08] <rww> txwikinger: I see two lines in /lastlog txwikinger in #ubuntu. One is you quitting with a "Read error: connection reset by peer". the other is you rejoining.
[04:08] <rww> so no ;P
[04:09] <txwikinger> Hmm.. odd. I got messages by the Floodbot asking me some stupid question and claiming  I am a bot :)
[04:09] <txwikinger> rww: Yeah.. I just managed to join again
[04:10] <rww> because your client attempted to rejoin #ubuntu before you identified with nickserv
[04:10] <txwikinger> Ah.. bad client :)
[08:08] <Tm_T> jussi: I just noticed that we do not have any factoid about jockey
[08:08] <jussi> !nvidia
[08:11] <Tm_T> jockey isn't only about graphics drivers, so...
[08:11] <Tm_T> also that wikipage gives nothing about jockey AFAICS
[08:12] <Tm_T> hmmm, I wonder if we need a new wiki page too for it
[08:15] <jussi> Tm_T: but why do we need a specific jockey something?
[08:15] <jussi> between !wireless and !nvidia/!ati I think its pretty well covered, no?
[08:40] <Tm_T> jussi: indeed, but neither of those mention jockey or its usage
[08:40] <jussi> Tm_T: the second section on the link for nvidia does, havent checked wireless - I assume that does also
[09:00] <Tm_T> jussi: wouldn't hurt mentioning jockey right in the factoid, perhaps
[09:01] <jussi> Tm_T: perhaps. suggestions?
[09:01] <Tm_T> anyway, my brain hurts as I haven't slept much lately so...
[09:02] <Tm_T> jussi: "For ... ...use "additional drivers" (or whatever it is called in the menu) to check and install drivers. For further information, see ..." or something like that?
[09:03] <Tm_T> !mp3
[09:03] <Tm_T> hmmm, or something like that one
[09:26] <niko> rww, thanks for the warning :)
[13:21] <Pici> Another hi/sup/whatever confusion thing.
[13:21] <ikonia> with who ? I wasn't really watching
[13:21] <Pici> slipkid08 at xx:18 onwards
[13:22] <ikonia> I see it now
[13:41] <ikonia> well unbanning jungli was a stupid idea of mine
[13:41] <ikonia> unbanned one day and already he's joining to make stupid comments, guess I'll have to put the bans back
[13:41] <Pici> oh?
[13:42] <ikonia> 17:54 -!- Spicemaster [~loc0@122.161.67.166] has joined #ubuntu
[13:42] <ikonia> 17:55 < Spicemaster> hi viva la turky
[13:43] <ikonia> less than a day, not a bad start
[13:43] <ikonia> lets hope my faith in bacta/panarchy and the like is better placed
[13:53] <jpds> What a multicultural phrase.
[13:54] <ikonia> he's a world wide phenom
[14:04] <elky> you unbanned him?
[14:05] <ikonia> yes
[14:27] <ikonia> if AndChat says "why" I'm quitting
[14:37] <ikonia> it's fine
[14:38] <jpds> z. (#u) is an interesting word in Spanish.
[16:43] <Pici> wow, a GPF on Linux.
[16:48] <ikonia> GPF ?
[17:59] <Pici> ikonia: they mean you don't need to keep going on about how much they screwed up
[18:00] <ikonia> I'm not
[18:00] <ikonia> he keeps asking "is this the last resort"
[18:00] <ikonia> yes, it is because you jsut rushed in
[18:00] <ikonia> but will this remove my data
[18:00] <ikonia> who knows, you're limited because you rushed in
[18:00] <ikonia> I'm not telling him the risky option for fun
[18:00] <Pici> ikonia: I just got back here, haven't read the whole scrollback.
[18:00] <ikonia> and the phrase "I could have read the man page but didn't"
[18:00] <ikonia> so just rushed in
[18:00] <ikonia> data is important 3000+ mp3's he ripped himself etc
[18:01] <ikonia> you don't want to be told you've made a stupid mistake, that's fine, but stop telling me you want help but don't want to do what I tell you because it's risky
[18:01] <ikonia> the reason you have to do the risky option is because you've made a stupid decision, and been lazy and not read up on what you where doing
[18:02] <ikonia> sorry,
[18:02] <Pici> I usually just let them deal with it themselves at that point, no reason to keep talking about if  they aren't going to be listening.
[18:03] <KB1JWQ> Yeah, if they're going to keep digging the hole deeper I'd rather not be the one who rents the backhoe for them.
[18:03] <Pici> Good analogy.
[18:04] <ikonia> Pici: and that's what I did
[18:04] <ikonia> I explained once why they where in the situation they where in
[18:04] <ikonia> I then just said follow the advice or don't
[18:04] <ikonia> as I'm not arguing it, you've made a bad call, here is your option here is your risk, it's up to you
[18:04] <ikonia> "but I need this data....."
[18:06] <KB1JWQ> Which channel was this in?
[18:06] <ikonia> #ubuntu
[18:07] <KB1JWQ> And who blew their data away?
[18:07] <ikonia> remoteCTRL:
[18:07] <ikonia> he didn't blow it away, he just put it at risk
[18:07] <Pici> I wonder if it was me.  I helped someone with a `find` command yesterday and they ended moving a bunch of data to a path that didn't exist.
[18:08] <ikonia> Pici: no no, it was a raid 5 array that had failed but he didn't take the used disk out of the raid array before swapping the physical drive
[18:09] <ikonia> nothing to do with you
[18:10] <ikonia> now he's pm'ing me with more and more info about why he had to do it
[18:10] <ikonia> I don't care, it doesn't change the situation, so take the risk or don't, it's not a massive risk, but it is there
[18:10] <ikonia> despite me telling him not to pm me
[18:10] <ikonia> I'm going home
[18:10] <ikonia> laters
[18:10] <Pici> ikonia: take care
[18:16] <KB1JWQ> A kick for PM seems a bit harsh.
[18:16] <KB1JWQ> Not trying to call it after the fact, though. :-)
[19:08] <Pici> "Linux is open source, so that means that I can ask about fedora here"
[19:10] <highvoltage> heh
[19:18] <KB1JWQ> I like that approach!
[19:54] <erUSUL> !html
[19:55] <erUSUL> amaya is no longer in ubuntu; is it?
[19:55] <erUSUL> !find amaya
[20:06] <Pici> Its in hardy.
[20:07] <Pici> !html =~ s/Amaya/Amaya (Hardy or earlier)/
[20:07] <erUSUL> Pici: ty
[20:22] <LjL> poor amaya :(
[21:04] <Pici> !-member
[21:05] <Pici> !member
[21:05]  * Pici thinks 'means' should be switched with something
[21:05] <Pici> but /me is going home now
[21:06] <genii-around> "means" for "is" ?
[21:09] <rww> "is given in"
[21:09] <LjL> "somehow magically relates to"
[21:23] <KB1JWQ> "inflicts"
[21:27] <jrib> "cheese"
[21:37] <IdleOne> would someone be nice enough to change google-fu to google-foo in !google please.
[21:37] <LjL> err, why?
[21:42] <bazhang> !-google
[22:12] <maco> the nick is familiar but i dont know if it's due to past bad behaviour
[22:24] <tonyyarusso> Seems vaguely familiar to me as well, but I don't think negatively so.
[22:38] <rww> LjL: because IdleOne doesn't know what "fu" is, I guess?
[22:53] <Jordan_U> He should have googled it first.
[23:09] <necreo> [Freenode] ==> Cannot join to channel #ubuntu (You are banned) :: I appear to have been banned again? Why was my exemption from my shellhost ban revoked? :(
[23:10] <LjL> necreo: exemptions from blanket bans, when they are set at all, are only temporary
[23:11] <necreo> LjL: Oh, why is that? :(
[23:12] <necreo> I was wondering if I did something bad
[23:12] <LjL> necreo: several reasons, basically they're difficult to handle, and you can't properly ban/mute someone who is exempted should the need arise.
[23:12] <LjL> necreo: you probably did nothing bad
[23:12] <LjL> necreo: but if you want to be able to join #ubuntu all the time, i'm afraid you'll have to find a different shell solution
[23:13] <necreo> Hmmm ok, guess I'll use the freenode webchat client if I ever really need IRC help
[23:13] <necreo> Thanks for the explanation
[23:41] <Jordan_U> Couldn't he also just get a cloak?
[23:41] <LjL> not an unaffiliated one, gateway cloaks trump those
[23:41] <LjL> but a project cloak would work
[23:42] <Jordan_U> I didn't realize there were different "levels" of cloak, thanks.
[23:43] <rww> project > gateway > unaffiliated
[23:43] <rww> in terms of which applies