hggdhheh. Either sense would work00:00
hggdhDaviey, see byobu screen 200:02
hggdhDaviey, I deregistered cluster1 (just in case) and tried again to publish. Went splat as usual00:03
RoAkSoAxwho can post in Ubuntu Server Blog? WOuldn't it be nice to post about PowerNap too? :)00:06
Davieyhggdh, what was
hggdhDaviey, this was (I expect) your SC00:08
DavieyRoAkSoAx, It's not entirely clear... Technically it should be someone from ~ubuntu-members, as i don't think we had an ack to add it00:08
Davieyhggdh, interesting....00:08
Daviey19:06:16 DEBUG [ChannelUtil:New I/O client boss #2] java.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host00:08
Davieyjava.net.NoRouteToHostException: No route to host00:08
Daviey(i just rebooted it)00:08
DavieySo euca *IS* trying to play with it00:08
hggdheven after I deregistered the beast?00:09
Davieyseems so00:09
hggdhOK. Is there anything kosher? The more we poke the worst it seems00:09
twbWater probably is00:10
twbUnless a pig died in it or something, I guess00:10
Davieyhggdh, I think the whole rack should be flushed tbh00:10
Davieyhggdh, at the moment, i don't care if multiple clouds on the same subnet causes it to go bang... :)00:11
Davieyhggdh, It's late for me, and i need to step away from the computer before my eyes explode.00:11
DavieyIf you can't get me before you go, can you send me an email with a sitrep?00:11
hggdhDaviey, certainly00:15
hggdhI am going to restart from scratch00:15
* Patrickdk watchs everyones heads explode00:15
* hggdh was doing good until getting to test euca...00:17
Patrickdkjust working on the iscsi tests00:18
Patrickdkattempting to figure out why the fail00:18
* hggdh grabs some popcorn and sits down to watch Patrickdk's head go the same route and Daviey's and self's00:27
Patrickdkheh, I have been able to solve many issues, but dhcp/pxe/iscsi root, is pretty complex, and not much room for diagnosing00:28
hggdhDaviey, bug 728145 opened00:31
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 728145 in eucalyptus "euca tries to register a SC, fails, but adds it in" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72814500:31
hggdhnow for a Brand New ISO Install...00:31
Davieyhggdh, make sure you kill the two machines i was using00:31
hggdhDaviey, hostnames, please00:32
SpamapSDaviey: shouldn't you be in bed? :)00:33
hggdhDaviey, never mind, I will shut them down, PXE is set to default on all except the two I am installing00:33
hggdhSpamapS, a long time ago. I am always amazed on how he survives00:34
SpamapSProbably safer to stay on the computer rathern than have to face the wrath of the wife who has been waiting all night for him. ;)00:35
SpamapSI know I get that one. ;)00:35
DavieySpamapS, yeah...00:35
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Davieyhggdh, mabolo and marula00:36
DavieySpamapS, see comment on bug #71142500:36
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 711425 in sysvinit "portmap does not stop during shutdown, causing possible root fs corruption" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/71142500:36
hggdhSpamapS, it is just shy of 1900 here, and my wife is already unhappy...00:38
SpamapSDaviey: I'd be willing to bet sysvinit is FTBFS then00:38
Davieyyeah :)00:38
DavieySpamapS, did you test build before submitting the debdiff?00:39
SpamapSDaviey: probably not given that I only changed shell scripts00:39
Davieyfair enough :)00:39
Patrickdkyay, I got login :)00:40
SpamapSDaviey: might be something that was dropped in 2.6.3800:41
twbLast time I looked, portmap was done in upstart as at 10.04...00:47
SpamapSportmap is an upstart job yes00:47
SpamapSbut shutdown is not in upstart :(00:47
SpamapSso sysvinit has to stop portmap00:47
twbEr, don't you mean "portmap should have a `stop on' line"?00:48
SpamapSit has that now00:48
twbHum, OK00:48
Patrickdkone little fix, corrects 4 failed, but I doubt the *little* fix is proper :)00:48
SpamapSstop on unmounted-remote-filesystems00:48
twbI'm *so* sick of upstart, man00:49
SpamapStwb: the issue is that portmap must not be killed until all NFS filesystems are unmounted00:49
SpamapStwb: its not so much upstart as the half-completed migration to it that is frustrating00:49
twbYes, EXACTLY00:49
SpamapStwb: basically the migration isn't really done until everything that isn't a traditional network service is upstartified.00:50
twbAfter nearly four years and stuff still isn't migrated properly00:50
twbHell, halt(8) is called from rc0.d still00:50
SpamapSI think there's been a lot of resistance and moaning about it but its not going anywhere so its time for us to just get'r'done00:51
Patrickdkheh, you should see the postfix vs upstart thread on that maillist :)00:51
SpamapStwb: Its likely that will be a topic of discussion for UDS-O00:51
Patrickdkthey are cursing upstart cause it must monitor something to tell it's active00:52
SpamapSPatrickdk: I'm trying hard to stay out of that.00:52
twbSpamapS: surely 12.04 will be running systemd?00:52
SpamapStwb: that would be suicidal00:52
SpamapStwb: maybe 12.10 and later..00:52
SpamapStwb: but dropping systemd in now would be WORSE than when upstart was dropped in during Karmic00:52
twbIt'll be funny if Debian 7 releases with a complete systemd migration and 12.04 is still half-upstart, half-sysvinit00:53
SpamapSI do hope that we have upstart 2 w/ the state based interface so we can drop the wait for state hacks before 12.04 ...00:53
SpamapStwb: thats the point.. 11.10 should have a major push to complete the migration to upstart.00:54
twbHas remnant said whether he'll continue developing upstart at google?00:54
SpamapSHe's just dropped upstart 1.0 yesterday00:54
SpamapSas in.. published00:54
twbThat's not necesarily a "yes" :-)00:54
SpamapSand he did that as a sort of hand off to us so he can focus on 2.000:54
SpamapSUpstart seems to be a key part of what he's doing there.00:55
SpamapSbut, he can neither confirm nor deny that00:55
twbFlipping corporations :-/00:56
SpamapSwell either way... its arguably highly reckless to just go switching inits *now*00:57
Patrickdkno one doing the raid1 tests?00:58
SpamapSbetter the devil we know. if upstart 2 scks or never lands.. so be it.00:58
SpamapSPatrickdk: I'd do them but my bandwidth is complete crap :-/00:58
SpamapShard enough just upgrading to the latests python 2.7 :-/00:59
SpamapStwb: I have to agree that I'm tired of mopping up the upstart mess tho00:59
twbEspecially when I see pere's insserv work in Debian01:00
SpamapSbut I do see a clear path to it being finished01:00
twbSince that made the boot time significantly less, and didn't impact me as a user at all01:00
hggdhDaviey, you can go to bed... uec-publish-tarball now works :-)01:02
patdk-lapI'll try, but dunno if I have any time01:02
Davieyhggdh, pah01:03
SpamapStwb: I have to wonder how much of that has been influenced by upstart itself.01:03
twbI think it certainly precipitated interest, but I don't think the innserv methodology was in any way derived from upstart01:04
twbI mean, it looks at LSB headers and computes an ordering -- it's more like make than upstart01:05
SpamapSnot derived, but certainly the existence of upstart and its perceived deficiencies has driven systemd development01:05
hggdhPatrickdk, I was going to do the raid1, but got stuck with euca01:05
twbOh sorry, I thought you were talking about insserv, not systemd01:05
SpamapSI imagine it has also encouraged insserv work to improve things so that they have a compelling argument against upstart01:06
hggdhPatrickdk, if you can run them, I would be in your debt01:06
* hggdh is getting to owe a lot of people around01:06
SpamapStwb: I was making a giant leap.. loop closed now ;)01:06
SpamapStwb: the main point is just that any time an early leader falters, it encourages the new players who don't have to deal with all the mistakes of the first implementation01:09
patdk-laphggdh, don't worry, I will collect :)01:09
SpamapStwb: upstart has found many of the really big potholes .. and systemd and insserv and others have been able to see it fall into those and can avoid them01:09
twbLike fortran01:09
twbDidn't insserv predate upstart?01:10
SpamapSthis is funny.. may laptop on my lap is behind a bunch of plants.. if I'm doing a download and hold it high up in the air.. it speeds up from 512kbit to 2Mbit01:10
twbSpamapS: what would be funny is if you were using cat5 and that happened01:11
SpamapSinsserv wasntreally going where upstart was... but yes.. it was leading, and it was passed01:12
SpamapStwb: I'm not exactly attached to upstart forever. I just think if it was going to be replaced in ubuntu, it needed to happen in 11.0401:14
twbI totally admit that insserv's goals are conservative01:15
twbBut at least it met them without giving me stress :-P01:15
hggdhRoAkSoAx, still there?01:19
RoAkSoAxhggdh: yep01:21
RoAkSoAxhggdh: what up :)?01:22
hggdhRoAkSoAx, I am ready to test the change to powernap01:22
RoAkSoAxhggdh: you wanna do it now or tomorrow?01:22
hggdhRoAkSoAx, your call. I cannot test euca without it, though01:23
RoAkSoAxhggdh: I guess we can do it now then if you like01:23
hggdhRoAkSoAx, really, your call. I *know* it will fail no matter what, there is the DHCP issue still pending01:24
hggdhso we can do it tomorrow morning01:24
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok then01:24
hggdhsay around 0700 CST?01:24
hggdh0800 EST01:25
RoAkSoAxhggdh: bettwe yet we will both be fresh01:25
RoAkSoAxhggdh: let';s make it 8.3001:25
hggdhmy dogs wake up early, so I have no other option...01:25
hggdhRoAkSoAx, deal01:25
RoAkSoAxhggdh: alrighty!! have a good one them. I'm off now :P01:25
hggdhRoAkSoAx, thank you01:26
RoAkSoAxno worries :)_01:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #728167 in cloud-init (main) "failure on apt-get update should be warning" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72816701:41
emma_wallHi, im new to Linux! so i have a few silly question01:45
patdk-laphmm, raid1 tests failing for me02:10
patdk-lapcan't start raid in degraded mode02:10
patdk-laphopefully I'm just doing it wrong02:10
patdk-lapmdadm: CREATE user root not found02:11
patdk-lapmdadm: CREATE group disk not found02:12
SpamapSlifeless: had any chance to try out the new cassandra packages?02:34
SpamapSpatdk-lap: wha?02:34
lifelessSpamapS: yes, I commented in the bug02:34
SpamapSlifeless: oh good :)02:35
lifelessSpamapS: haproxy1.4 for lucid interest you?02:35
SpamapSlifeless: as in, a backport?02:36
lifelessor a CAT build02:37
SpamapSCAT build?02:38
lifelessha proxy 1.3 cannot do close-mode02:38
lifelesscanonical admin team02:38
patdk-lapspamaps, I probably did something wrong02:39
patdk-lapor, I hope I did :)02:39
lifelessSpamapS: without close mode, persistent connections show up as single sessions regardless of requests sent over them02:40
lifelessSpamapS: which breaks the concurrency limit02:40
lifelessbecause connection != request02:40
lifelessand haproxy explicitly says it doesn't see the requests beyond the first one (in 1.3)02:40
lifelessSpamapS: this is hindering our load normalisation for launchpad02:40
patdk-laplifeless, adjust your keepalive settings?02:41
patdk-lapif you have keepalive off, only one request per connection is allowed02:42
lifelessI know this02:42
lifelesspatdk-lap: sorry, I don't mean to be negative02:48
lifelesspatdk-lap: its more complex than that - we have 4 tiers talking http02:48
patdk-lapjust wondering if it's something I'm missing :)02:48
lifelessapache (load balanced) to squid (load balanced) to haproxy (load balanced) to 80 appserver threads02:49
patdk-lapthat seems like a mess02:49
lifelessapache handles the SSL02:49
lifelesssquid does caching02:50
lifelesshaproxy does load limiting02:50
lifelessbut, 1.3 can't do it well enough to let us move to single threaded appservers. 1.4 can.02:50
lifelessif we reconfigure things in front of haproxy we may make it work for a bit, but if someone makes a mistake, we'll have a horrible failure mode02:51
lifelessI don't like horrible failure modes.02:51
lifelesspatdk-lap: why do you say a mess? we serve a fair few hits daily03:10
patdk-lapI've never liked using apache proxy, or reverse squid cache03:15
patdk-lapI keep removing them to speed things up03:15
lifelesspatdk-lap: do your sites run SSL ?03:16
lifelesshow many application servers do you have?03:17
lifelesswhat do you use to syncronise your SSL session cache03:18
patdk-lapnothing, I don't need to03:18
SpamapSlifeless: re the 1.4 build.. that makes sense. since haproxy is in main .. it should be an easy sell for backport to lucid03:18
lifelessthen whenever a client switches application server, they will renegotiate. Thats up to 6 seconds from nz.03:18
lifelessSpamapS: how do I go about making it happen03:18
patdk-lapbefore they had some kind of apache squid apache thing, using 48 servers, 8 squid servers03:19
patdk-laplifeless, they don't switch application servers, unless their ip changes03:19
patdk-lapsince I have a limited amount of that, I just balance by ip instead of load03:19
SpamapSlifeless: realistically I'd be shocked if the package from maverick didn't build w/o changes on lucid03:19
lifelesspatdk-lap: depends on the client, and if they have /any/ network interrupts.03:19
SpamapSlifeless: so an upload to the PPA that you guys use would probably be the only thing necessary.03:20
patdk-lapnetwork interrupts shouldn't change their ip03:20
lifelesspatdk-lap: you're pinning clients by the *client* ip ?03:20
lifelesspatdk-lap: in which case, roaming clients - e.g. folk at UDS - will suffer regular SSL renegotiation.03:21
lifelessI mean, its your call how you do it. And I"m sure you solved problems you had.03:21
lifelessdoesn't mean there aren't more issues present :)03:21
patdk-lapthe biggest issue I found we has03:22
patdk-lapwas duplication of caches between all the servers03:22
patdk-laplimiting it to less servers, fixed that hugely03:22
lifelessI would graph invalid ssl attempts - they will mostly be folk that have roamed trying wha they think is their existing session.03:22
lifelesspatdk-lap: we'd need stupid-big caches to cache our data set03:25
lifelesspatdk-lap: - its 300GB -03:25
patdk-lapnothing wrong with that03:25
patdk-lapbut having the same stupid big cache on 40 servers03:25
lifelessif you had no locality of reference, yeah it would be a waste03:25
lifelessyou'd get lots of cold-cache reads03:25
patdk-lapmy issues was more, 500gig working set, 4gig ram, 48 servers03:26
patdk-lapbasically everything was a cold read03:26
lifelessthat would blow03:26
patdk-lapand wasting ram for squid03:27
SpamapSThe working set that is entirely popular is quite rare.03:27
lifelessits mythical :)03:27
patdk-lapif there where no webcrawlers :)03:27
lifelessas flickr say, their peak time lasts all week :)03:28
patdk-laphmm, this makes me wonder alittle03:28
patdk-lapcause I didn't think about it too much03:29
patdk-lapthe 2 servers  I replaced that whole mess with have 18gigs ram each in them03:29
patdk-lapbut I run vm's on them, and the *webservers* only have 2gigs ram each03:29
patdk-lapdoing more with less03:29
patdk-lapdefently a cache issue03:29
patdk-lapless nfs hits iwth less servers hitting it up03:30
SpamapSpatdk-lap: web crawlers are an easy case to handle. In a previous life we simply had our HTTP aware load balancer send all crawler user agents to a single server that we didn't mind going slow. ;)03:31
SpamapSpatdk-lap: and we also heavily focused on making If-Modified-Since function properly.03:31
patdk-lapoh, I have never had an issue for my websites03:32
patdk-lapit's hosting other peoples sites03:32
SpamapSNever did convince anyone that we could make old pages hand out expires headers since they changed less frequently. :)03:32
patdk-lapwhere you shouldn't be modifing their stuff, to fix that :)03:32
patdk-laphmm, I wonder how you would handle google these days though03:34
patdk-lapsince they rate you based on crawl speed also03:34
patdk-lapor page load time03:34
SpamapSIf their stuff is crap, you shouldn't be modifying it.  you should be making money off it :)03:37
SpamapSpatdk-lap: most of the time giving google a dedicated server meant FASTER load times. :)03:41
patdk-lapI dunno, I seem to always get hit by google, msn, and yahoo at the same time :(03:41
SpamapSpatdk-lap: and since 90% of the pages would give back a 304 ... they wouldn't even consider the cold, unchanged reads. :)03:41
patdk-lapdoesn't really bother me03:42
lifelessSpamapS: I wonder if I can impose on you to try a lucid rebuild03:42
SpamapSThough I do have to admit.. we had nearly 100GB of memcached available..03:42
lifelessSpamapS: while I know how, I'm primarily focused on driving timeouts down03:43
SpamapSlifeless: sure, if it works I'll propose it as a lucid backport03:43
lifelessSpamapS: \o/ thanks03:43
SpamapSlifeless: as I'd expect.. latest haproxy builds fine on lucid.. can you give me the 2 line summary for why it is worth backporting to lucid so I can put it in the lucid-bacports request?03:54
lifelessSpamapS: to get option http-server-close03:55
lifelesshttp://haproxy.1wt.eu/download/1.4/doc/configuration.txt section 1.103:55
patdk-lapdepressing, other than the usuals (navy.mil, freebsd.net, ntp.org), I have receive 1 email via ipv6, and it was spam03:57
patdk-lapin the last month03:57
SpamapSlifeless: oh.. I always sort of assumed haproxy worked that way ;)03:57
SpamapSpatdk-lap: good to know the spammers will follow us into the future of the internets03:58
lifelessSpamapS: indeed, you can imagine our unpleasant surprise when we lowered the maxconn on edge 30 20 hours ago03:58
lifelesss/30 //03:58
SpamapSlifeless: bug #728204 has the backports request04:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 728204 in lucid-backports "Please backport haproxy 1.4.8-1 to lucid (currently 1.3.22-1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72820404:04
* SpamapS ponders whether or not to try and get another 30 minutes of sleep before his body notices the sun has started creeping over the horizon..04:06
* patdk-lap makes spamaps work on the bug he found :)04:06
lifelessSpamapS: I think you should sleep if you can04:06
dravekxzzzz.... updates04:10
SpamapSlifeless: I got 5 whole hours... who needs more than that?04:12
* SpamapS will pay dearly for that at around 3:00pm today.. ;)04:13
lifelessSpamapS: indeed04:13
dravekx_how can I tell the version of a program installed via command line?05:37
jmarsdendravekx_: dpkg -l PACKAGENAME  # If you don't know the PACKAGENAME, try    dpkg -S `which PROGRAM`05:40
dravekxanyone know of a good free online server security check?06:56
twbDefine "check"06:57
dravekxtwb, uhm...06:59
dravekxcheck = "an online security scanner to see if there are any holes in your server security" ??07:00
twbAt layer 3, or 7?07:00
twbNo idea, sorry.07:01
twbFor 3  I would run nmap or openvas from an endpoint outside your LAN07:02
twbFor 7 I simply forbid users from running PHP.07:02
dravekxtwp, that's a little ruff when msot of your users are wordpress and phpbb fanatics.07:02
twbFuck em07:02
twbI would replace the former with something that generates static content (bloxsom?) and the latter with NNTP.07:04
twbYeah, "Blosxom can operate as a CGI script or produce static HTML files."07:05
twbIt's quite a lot harder to exploit bugs in sendfile(2) than in a PHP webapp07:05
twbAnyway, if all you care about is wordpress and phpbb, you could look at MITRE CVEs to learn about vulnerabilities.  Combine that with whatever best current practices that upstream recommends, and you will be about as secure as you can get for those two07:09
dravekxtwb, openvas is what i was looking for. works perfect. thanks.07:42
twbWell, I guess technically that's layer 707:43
twbBut it'll test, say, apache2 rather than the apps running inside it07:44
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tap-outhi, i ryn this coomand08:25
tap-outsrry, quotacheck -avugm but it ask for quota force check ?08:26
tap-outany thingggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg08:30
tap-outi get this error wen i run quotacheck -avugm and it ask for quota force check08:31
twbtap-out: what is the full error?08:32
tap-outquotacheck -avugm , quotacheck: Quota for user is enabled on mountpoint / so might damage the file,please trun quota off or use -f to force checking08:33
twbtap-out: it wants you to run "quotaoff /"08:34
twbtap-out: preferably after kicking all the users off the root filesystem08:34
tap-outtwb, how i do that08:35
twbtap-out: quotacheck can only operate if the filesystem's quota isn't actively being updated08:35
tap-outu mean there is other user using it08:35
tap-outi am just using terminal and no other one in the server may some service08:36
twbtap-out: run "quotaoff /"08:36
tap-outhow can i make quota off08:36
twbBy fucking typing the command I just gave you08:37
* twb rails at the language barrier08:37
tap-outu fck  command not work08:38
twbtap-out: did it give an error?08:39
tap-outquota -f , no file system specified08:39
tap-outtwb, quota -f , no file system specified08:40
twbSorry, you've exceeded my stupid threshold.  Please wait for someone more tolerant to help you.08:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #728299 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.6~dfsg-5ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72829909:02
_rubenwow .. how can someone turn "quotaoff /" into "quota -f" and still able to operate a computer .. *amazing*09:08
twb_ruben: thrice, no less09:29
phretorI've noticed that Ubuntu redirects MySQL's error log to syslog. Is it possible to change this behavior?09:45
twb"If you use mysqld_safe to start mysqld, mysqld_safe arranges for mysqld to write error messages to a log file or (as of MySQL 5.1.20) to syslog:"09:46
twbLooks like upstream changed the default: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/error-log.html09:46
twbI imagine you want to pass --skip-syslog somewhere.09:47
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uvirtbotNew bug: #728328 in nagios-plugins (main) "nagios plugins depend on samba" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72832809:56
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jibeljamespage, Daviey  can you help to test "UEC install (minimal topology)" amd64/i386 on Natty Alpha3 ?10:38
Davieyjibel, That is my plan :)10:38
Davieyjibel, hggdh and me were testing the candidate last night10:39
jibelDaviey, Awesome \o/10:39
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uvirtbotNew bug: #728347 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72834710:46
jibelAnyone to test Install (default + RAID1)  ? That's the last mandatory test for server on natty alpha310:48
Davieyjamespage, Are you snowed at the moment?10:58
jamespageworking on the ec2 testing stuff at the moment10:58
jamespageWant me to pickup that test?10:58
uvirtbotNew bug: #728362 in eucalyptus (main) "instance-id meta-service url 10.04.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72836211:11
Davieyjamespage, if you could, that would be awesome... I'm kinda tied up on awstrial atm, causing pain11:52
Davieysmoser, When you are around - would you consider the upgrade delta warning for grub.conf, when upgrading grub a bug?11:58
smoserit forces a prompt ?12:00
smoserplease open a bug.12:00
Davieysmoser, ack12:03
jamespageDaviey: won't get to it for an hour or so - is that OK?12:04
Davieyjamespage, Sounds good to me... jibel ?12:05
* Daviey ^5's jamespage 12:05
Davieyjamespage, Actually, i could test it in VM.12:06
jamespageI will be12:06
Davieyjamespage, If i do amd64 now, can you do i386 in an hour or so?12:07
smoseri would like people's input on bug 72816712:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 728167 in cloud-init "failure on apt-get update should be warning" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72816712:14
smosermainly, should failure of 'apt-get update' result in not running 'apt-get install <packages here>' where the user specified packages to run.12:14
smoseror should it just continue on, and warn that the update failed.12:14
Davieysmoser, I don't fully understand the issue...12:37
Davieysmoser, "the exception raised on failed 'apt-get upgrade' inside the cc_apt_update_"  Is that a typo? s/upgrade/update/g' ?12:38
smoserand now fixed12:40
DavieySo if it fails to update the cache, still try and install packages?12:40
smoserthank you for reading12:40
Davieysmoser, If that is so.. on the cloud images there is a pretty good chance the cache will be stale, compared to a traditional server install.12:42
Davieymarking the packages for installation might be a better solution?12:42
m_tadeu_I'm trying to run a command in a remote server and, dispite I'm sure the file is there, it says "no such file or directory". What is happening in this case?12:42
smoserDaviey, the cache will be stale, but not invalid12:43
smoseroh wait.. yeah i fthere is a package in -updates you might be giong ot fail that too12:43
Davieysmoser, True, but what happens if the packages are not still in the pool?12:43
Davieysmoser, I wonder if the cloud images initial apt cache should be based on the release pocket only?12:44
smoserwell, i was thinking that you'd get the one form the original release (not -updates)12:44
smoserbut you're right12:44
smoserso what are you suggesting ?12:45
DavieyIf the shipped cache is of the release pocket, install should always work12:45
DavieyIf apt update works, great12:45
Davieyelse they'll get the option next time they do update12:45
DavieyThere is a risk they'll not get -security packages on first run though12:46
Davieym_tadeu_, need more information to help really12:47
Davieym_tadeu_, what command are you trying to run?12:48
m_tadeu_Daviey: I'm accessing a remote server using ssh. I have a binary in /usr/local/fop2/fop2_server...when I "sudo /usr/local/fop2/fop2_server" it says file does not exist12:48
m_tadeu_I even tryed to go to the dir and run it there....the file is there but bash says it doesn't exist12:49
smoserDaviey, shipped cache is of release pocket + point in time snapshot of -updates and -security12:49
Davieym_tadeu_, ls -al /usr/local/fop2/fop2_server <--- that shows it?12:49
m_tadeu_keep in mind that I'm even using tab for autocomplete12:50
m_tadeu_Daviey: -rwxr-x--x  1 root root 6585775 2011-03-03 12:06 fop2_server12:50
Davieysmoser, That is my point... release pocket packages will be there for the life of the image..   -updates and -security is variable12:50
smoserbut what happens if12:51
smoser *package in -release12:51
smoser * package in -update [in cache]12:51
Davieym_tadeu_, That is _odd_12:51
smoser * newer package in -update [not in cache], so referenced deb is now gone12:51
smoser * apt-get install package12:52
smoseri think it fails because it sees that the version in its cache in -updates is newer than in -release12:52
Davieym_tadeu_, Are you sure that is the file that can't be found, or is that trying to execute another binary?12:52
smoserand tries to get it12:52
Davieysmoser, hmm12:52
dravekxcan someone explain to me how to create a cron job? I have one, but not sure how to make it run.12:52
hallynivoks: bug 726461 sure sounds familiar :)  do you have anyone using ocfs on lucid who does not have instability?12:52
Davieysmoser, Hang on..12:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 726461 in openssh "sshd on lucid causes kernel panic" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72646112:52
Davieysmoser, If you shipped the apt cache of just the release pocket, the packages in the pool should be there for the life of the image.12:53
ivokshallyn: i have no problems12:53
m_tadeu_Daviey: I have no idea, since it's a binary file, not a script. but I'm guessing if it would run another file it would be on the same dir....and now I'm on that dir12:53
ivokshallyn: let me see :)12:53
smoserDaviey, right.12:53
hallynivoks: really?12:53
smoserbut the apt-cache is just the apt-cache that the build was done on12:53
hallynivoks: ok, then maybe i'm just unfairly prejudiced12:53
smoseri *could* selectively clean it, yes.12:53
Davieysmoser, Yeah... that is what i was thinking12:54
smoserheres why that doesn't work12:54
Davieysmoser, so you attempt to update, but if that fails you then know you can still install packages that will succeed12:54
smoserif you do that, and then run 'ubuntu-bug installed-package' where installed-package came from -updates12:54
smoserit will say "not an ubuntu package"12:54
smoserand you're confused12:54
ivokshallyn: lol... this does look familliar, but i wouldn't blame ocfs2 yet12:55
Davieym_tadeu_, Sorry, i have no experience with that binary.  The best i can direct you to is googleing for that binary name and the error message12:55
Davieym_tadeu_, hopefully that will help12:55
Davieysmoser, hmm12:55
m_tadeu_Daviey: tryed that before comming here :)12:55
Davieysmoser, hmm12:56
ivokshallyn: i've had problems with iscsi, though12:56
Davieysmoser, I guess this matters more for post release images, rather than natty final12:56
smoserDaviey, so i actually had to do some work to make this all work the way it does... we rename the cache files so they match the mirror that we select on boot.12:56
Davieysmoser, BUT, this is just to cater for failure when initial update fails12:57
smoserso maybe if update fails, just tag for isntallation and warn12:57
smoserbut what sucks about that is that in most cases, it *would work*. (most packages don't have updates in -updates)12:58
Davieysmoser, yeah.. i don't know how to mark for installation in apt-get, but aptitude is easy to do that.12:58
ivokshallyn: otoh, do_filp_open is a function in fs/12:58
smosersurely there is some way. i will just dig a bit.12:58
Davieysmoser, Keep us posted on what you do.12:59
hallynivoks: in the past that sort of oops signature wouldve convinced me aufs was to blame, but that seems not involved here13:00
smoseroh yeah, i'm sure you're on the edge of your seat :)13:00
smoserthe real key is for the update to not fail13:00
smoser(and it shouldn't we've got local mirrors)13:00
smoserbut it could still fail in the case of user added repositories13:01
Davieysmoser, Good point13:03
smoseri'm thinking try and fail13:04
smoserand warn13:04
zulwhats going on about?13:04
Davieysmoser, easiest!13:05
Davieyzul, see scrollback13:05
jibelDaviey, jamespage sounds good to me too, thanks.13:07
ivokshallyn: yeah... but i don't believe it's ocfs; i refuse to believe :D13:09
jamespageDaviey: ack13:23
hallynivoks: well, the thing is, the idiom where putfile calls get_empty_filp() doesn't really seem like it fits anywhere but aufs13:29
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ivokshallyn: maybe he uses aufs :)13:33
hallynoh no i was misreading13:36
uvirtbotNew bug: #728442 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72844213:36
ivokshallyn: well, if i understand correctly, he's not using ocfs2 on the box that crashes13:37
ivokshallyn: he's just doing lvm snapshot13:37
ivoksoh, it does mount it, but after the snapshot is taken13:38
zuluvirtbot: yes we know13:40
uvirtbotzul: Error: "yes" is not a valid command.13:40
uvirtbotNew bug: #728444 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72844413:41
RoAkSoAxmorning all13:43
RoAkSoAxhggdh: you ready?13:44
KurtKrautHow do I remove a package intentionally breaking its dependencies? I want to remove the most to date update version of libapache2-mod-wsgi without removing the packages  that depends on in and them manually install thru dpkg a .deb file of an old version of libapache2-mod-wsgi. How do I remove it?13:45
hggdhRoAkSoAx, I am the readiest I can ever be ;-)13:45
hggdhand good morning13:45
RoAkSoAxhggdh: morning ;)13:46
RoAkSoAxhggdh: alright fire everything up13:46
ivoksKurtKraut: dpkr -r --ignore-depends=<package>,...13:46
ivoksKurtKraut: dpkg, of course :)13:46
RoAkSoAxhggdh: i'll prepare a config for you to  use. btw. Those servers support suspending right?13:47
ivoksKurtKraut: or... dpkg -r --force-depends libapache2-mod-wsgi13:47
hggdhRoAkSoAx, I believe they do, never had to try it before13:47
hggdhRoAkSoAx, and, right now, they are all under powernap control and grasp13:48
KurtKrautivoks, it worked, thanks!13:48
RoAkSoAxhggdh: what are we gonna do is change the config to how it was originally and see what happens13:49
Disconnectanyone else running into an issue where you can't enable pxe at all on kvm vms? if pxelinux loads (even with localboot 0, localboot -1, localboot 0x80) it says "Booting from local hard drive" and then cycles immediately back to dhcp/netbooting.. I'm suspecting its cuz they use virtio but if I cancel netbooting before that ('n' to netboot, 'q' to quit) they boot fine..13:49
RoAkSoAxhggdh: please change the config on the servers running powernap to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/574975/13:49
RoAkSoAxand sudo service powernap stop && sudo service powernap start again to make sure that the changes made effect13:50
RoAkSoAxhggdh: and then tail -f /var/log/powernap.log13:50
RoAkSoAxand let's let eucalyptus figure out what to do13:50
hggdhRoAkSoAx, interesting. The machines are up, but unresponsive13:54
RoAkSoAxhggdh: what should happen though is that powernap will always detect /sbin/init and will never do any action by itself. So, since eucalyptus decides to poweroff and stuff, eucalyptus will just send a command to the NC's and they will suspend of poweroff13:55
RoAkSoAxhggdh: any logs/ both eucalyptus/powernap?13:55
hggdhRoAkSoAx, not right now, having to reboot the CLC13:56
hggdhRoAkSoAx, the CLC is unresponsive13:56
hggdhRoAkSoAx, I am assuming that all other config options are good as they are now13:59
hggdhand I have restarted powernap on the NC, waiting for the CLC to finish reboot13:59
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok ;)14:03
kriswaloHi, my ubuntu server "crashed"/froze/"disapered from the network" a couple of days ago so I had to physically reboot it to be able to reconnect to it. Now I got my connection back up, but I'm not able to run a python script I have that's supposed to run and manage transmission for me. I get 401: Unauthorized user. Can someone help me?14:04
hggdhRoAkSoAx, OK. I have now to restart the NC, since whatever happened has already happened -- the CLC cannot see any regions available on the NC14:04
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok so I'm assuming that PowerNap itself has not suspeneded the NC's since the ProcessMonitor tracks the init daemon which will always be present in the process table.14:05
RoAkSoAxhggdh: can you show me powernap logs from any NC aswell as eucalyptus logs where it shows what it is doing with powernap (if it is sending wakeup signals and stuff)14:05
hggdhRoAkSoAx, I think it had done so _before_ I restarted it, and the euca tables got confused14:05
hggdhRoAkSoAx, will do, as soon as system is back up14:06
patdk-wkstill working on that?14:06
RoAkSoAxpatdk-wk: wer are just about to start14:07
hggdhRoAkSoAx, well, guess what...14:12
hggdhRoAkSoAx, now the CLC does not contact the NC14:12
hggdhnot even to start14:12
ivokshallyn: http://oss.oracle.com/pipermail/ocfs2-users/2010-September/004686.html14:12
RoAkSoAxhggdh: can you ssh into the NC?14:13
hggdhRoAkSoAx, yes. But Euca (on the NC) is reporting apache2: symbol lookup error: /etc/eucalyptus/axis2/services/EucalyptusNC/libEucalyptusNC.so: undefined symbol: rampart_print_security_processed_results_set14:13
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ahh!1 that's the same error I was experiencing. But, wasn't that fixed already?14:14
hggdhso we cannot really test -- we need the NC to register sanely at least once :-(14:14
RoAkSoAxDaviey: ^^14:14
hggdhRoAkSoAx, seems to be new, actually, I did not see it on A214:14
hallynivoks: (curse needless line wrapping) that one looks like memory got walked over14:14
hggdh(new == new since A2)14:14
hggdhGOOD MORNING Daviey14:15
ivokshallyn: yeah, it's not the same14:15
RoAkSoAxhggdh: can you ssh into the NC?72447014:15
RoAkSoAx bug14:15
RoAkSoAx bug #72447014:15
uvirtbotRoAkSoAx: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out14:16
hallynbut how come it *always* has that do_filp_open -> get_empty_filp -> apparmor_alloc_file_security trace (-> kzalloc) trace?14:16
hggdhRoAkSoAx, yes, I can ssh in14:16
RoAkSoAxhggdh: the bit ius wrong: check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/72447014:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 724470 in eucalyptus "apache2: symbol lookup error: /etc/eucalyptus/axis2/services/EucalyptusNC/libEucalyptusNC.so: undefined symbol: rampart_print_security_processed_results_set" [High,Fix released]14:16
hallynivoks: and have you ever seen this with 2.6.35?  of course people will use this in LTS which is .32, but I do wonder if it's been long fixed14:16
ivokshallyn: i haven't see it with .32 either14:17
hggdhRoAkSoAx, yes, I am running rev1255, will update14:18
hallynivoks: you mean you, personally, have not see it on .32, right?14:18
Davieymorning hggdh14:18
Davieyhggdh, that should be fixed!!14:18
hallynDaviey: do you have any idea (a) what's up with and (b) if anyone's looking at bugs 727342 and 727586 (and the several other similar ones)?14:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 727342 in open-vm-tools "package open-vm-dkms 2010.06.16-268169-3ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: open-vm-tools kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72734214:18
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 727586 in open-vm-tools "package open-vm-dkms 2010.06.16-268169-3ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: open-vm-tools kernel module failed to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72758614:19
hallynDaviey: or rather, does anyone look after open-vm-tools?14:19
Davieyhallyn, I don't think anyone is looking at those atm14:19
hallyni think for starters I'll mark them all dups and confirmed...14:19
hggdhDaviey, it probably is, but not on a3 (as yesterday' s image had it)14:19
ivokshallyn: right14:19
hggdhDaviey, I am upgrading to rev125614:19
Davieyhggdh, Looks like it's been community maintained14:20
hallynivoks: I supposed it's not unlike those weird bridging bugs - too dependent on environment to reproduce :(14:21
Davieyhallyn, I just messaged the last uploader, and the person that sponsored it to see if they want to touch it14:22
ivokshallyn: we could try reproducing it, but i don't have hardware atm :)14:22
Davieyhallyn, sadly, the person that last changed it is offline14:22
jibeljamespage, Daviey , hggdh ,can one of you pickup the test "UEC install (minimal topology)"  ?14:22
hallynDaviey: oh, cool, thanks.  Though my guess is that it's not a regression from a bad upload, but just out of date kernel module code14:22
Davieyhallyn, yeah14:23
Davieyjibel, I think hggdh is already hammering that14:23
Davieyhallyn, I haven't compared but it could be the same issue as bug #49867714:24
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 498677 in open-vm-tools "open-vm-tools kernel modules don't build on lucid kernels" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49867714:24
Davieyhallyn, which could mean, as you say  - it needs refreshing against the latest kernel14:24
hggdhI had forgotten to update the status of the test, jibel14:24
hallynDaviey: pls ping me if you hear back from the uploader14:25
Davieyhallyn, Which means an upstream fix (they fixed the last one).14:25
Davieyhallyn, Have you compared upstream commits looking for a fix?14:26
hallynDaviey: no, i'm wasting my f'ing time marking 100 f'ing dupes14:26
Davieyhallyn, :(... I think we need an LP API tool for that.14:26
hallynDaviey: well, we need a maintainer for that package so that the bugs don't stack up until my 'why do i see a new bug like this every day in my inbox' filter goes off :)14:27
hggdhDaviey, what is the issue on the upstart failing on euca?14:27
hggdhjust got ity14:27
Davieyhggdh, It's eucalyptus-network upstart job blocking14:28
hggdhDaviey, any bypass?14:28
Davieyhggdh, not exactly sure yet... it's either a change in upstart or eucalyptus-networking job failing.14:29
Davieyperhaps due to dhcpd14:29
Davieyhggdh, the bypass is simple...14:29
Davieyhggdh, What server is this on?14:29
hggdhDaviey, sapodilla and soncoya14:30
Davieyhallyn, I'm feeling the dupes on bug #71739714:30
uvirtbotDaviey: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out14:30
hallynDaviey: well while there are bugs for lucid, mav, and natty, i think each will need a different fix14:32
hallynnot sure though.  almost ready to d/l the source :)14:32
hggdhDaviey, bypassed, quite easy. It is a change in upstart14:32
* SpamapS perks up14:33
hallynoh no, we woke up SpamapS14:33
Davieyhggdh,  http://pb.daviey.com/HiVP/raw/14:33
hallynSpamapS: no no, we were just talking about sysvinit and how it rocks14:33
SpamapShallyn: +1 ;)14:33
jkgall this new-fangled upstart stuff, much like modern hardware/device management, and things like apparmor, make me feel like a bit of a luddite :-/14:34
hggdhRoAkSoAx, now we are ready14:37
RoAkSoAxhggdh: alrighty14:37
Davieyhggdh, Pain that euca didn't make the Alpha cd.14:40
hggdhRoAkSoAx, here's what I will do: I will start submitting instances; they all should fail (because of the DHCP issue)14:40
hggdhDaviey, yeah :-)14:40
hggdhRoAkSoAx, so we should have the NC doing the same thing as before14:40
Davieyoh goody14:41
Davieyhallyn, the person that sponsored it wasn't involved in fixing it14:43
RoAkSoAxhggdh: so this time the NC should go to sleep and then when trying to fire up an instance it should come back up14:43
hggdhyes. Let's hope it does get to the 'when trying to fire up an instance' -- which I am not really sure right now14:45
iggiQuestion, is there anything like oVirt for an Ubuntu machine?14:47
Davieysoren, Didn't you play with ovirt ages ago?14:48
iggiDaviey: I did see something on the list, but it was circa 200814:49
iggiThe main problem is that the only competitor I can find went closed source (enomolism?)14:50
sorenDaviey: No, I decided it wasn't interesting enough to sustain The Pain of A Million Ruby Gems[tm].14:50
sorenDaviey: Or thereabouts. I didn't actually count them.14:50
iggisoren: heh, fair enough. I will have to live with virt-manager+x11 forwarding unless you know a better way14:51
hallynDaviey: (just curious) meaning he got back to you and said that, or that you thought I was casting random blame left and right?  :)14:51
soreniggi: Why do X11 forwarding?14:52
hallynDaviey: I'm having some trouble with the build-depends being insufficient, tbh.14:52
hallynhm, or, no, something went wrong on thsi system.  feh.14:52
iggisoren: virt-manager and connecting to nodes turned out to be a pain last I tried. I could only get it working via SSH and that required a password for every action. I supposed PSK, but never had that working right with virt-manager.14:53
soreniggi: ssh forwarding is by far the easiest. It automatically tunnels vnc connections, too.14:54
sorenIt's quite simple to set up, really. ssh-keygen, ssh-copy-id, done.14:54
RoAkSoAxhggdh: anything?14:56
hggdhRoAkSoAx, differently from the previous runs, it now *never* reports 0 resources14:57
hggdhRoAkSoAx, so I canceled the test, and am now giving it a time for powernap to kick in14:58
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok, so that's good I pressume, since it will wakeup the NC whenever an instance is requested to run14:58
hggdhRoAkSoAx, actually, I would have to restart the NC -- the instances are now stuck in shutting down14:59
hggdhdone. Now we wait for powernap to kick in (again)15:01
* kirkland high fives hggdh and RoAkSoAx 15:02
kirklandpowernaps to the people!15:02
RoAkSoAxkirkland: hurray!!15:02
Davieyhallyn, nah - seems to have been a drive by sponsor.15:02
iggiBah, cPanel does not support Ubuntu? :(15:02
RoAkSoAxhggdh: anything yet?15:14
b0gatyrhi everyone15:15
hggdhRoAkSoAx, it seems powernap never kicked in15:17
RoAkSoAxhggdh: powernap by itself doesn't do anything afaik15:18
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ping15:18
RoAkSoAxhggdh: did it use to work out of the box before?15:19
hggdhRoAkSoAx, this is similar to what I had before -- I never saw anything different15:19
RoAkSoAxhggdh: for what I know the CC (or CLC) automatically decide what machine to powernap/wakeup15:20
RoAkSoAxso powernap always runs15:20
RoAkSoAxtracking sbin/init which will always be running15:20
RoAkSoAxso powernap by itself will never perform an action15:20
RoAkSoAxso when the cloud decices which NC to powernap, it sends a powernap-now command to the NC, which execs through the powernapd daemon, and performs the action (i.e. suspend)15:21
RoAkSoAxand to wakeup it just sends a WoL15:21
RoAkSoAxcan I see your logs though?15:21
hggdhRoAkSoAx, which logs you want?15:30
RoAkSoAxhggdh: /var/log/powernap.log15:30
RoAkSoAxhggdh: and I believe it is the NC log which shows when eucalyptus tris to wkaeup/powernap the NC's15:30
hggdhRoAkSoAx, powernap.(err|log) are empty15:32
hggdhRoAkSoAx, http://people.canonical.com/~cerdea/nc.log15:34
RoAkSoAxhggdh: that's weird, did since DEBUG=3 in the powernap config15:34
hggdhRoAkSoAx, duh, I had debug=115:35
hggdhrestarted powenap now15:36
RoAkSoAxhggdh: did you use the config settings I gave you?15:36
hggdhRoAkSoAx, see above. All there, but debug was set to 1 by mistake15:37
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok the log by no means shows that any NC is idled15:38
RoAkSoAxlike it should at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/PowerManagement15:38
bobgI am trying to get sudo-ldap installed in a preseed file. It fails because the prerm script of sudo pkg refuses because there is no root password (it does not know that sudo-ldap will replace it) I have tried preseeding a root password, I have tried setting "export SUDO_FORCE_REMOVE=yes in a preseed early_command.  How can I get sudo-ldap installed instead of sudo in a preseed installation?15:42
_wo_i dont hang out here15:42
_wo_but im looking for info about running oprofile on amazon's ec2 platform15:43
_wo_has anyone been able to do this?15:43
bobg_wo_, its ok, noone wants to admit hanging out here. The first step is to admit you hae a problem15:44
_wo_i always feel like a jerk for bursting into a chan and demanding answers to my questions15:45
hggdhRoAkSoAx, even after resetting DEBUG to 3, and 'sudo restart powenap', the logs are still empty15:47
hggdhRoAkSoAx, OK. When nothing else works, power it off, count to 10, power it on again.15:49
RoAkSoAxhggdh: yeah you need to sudo service powernap stop / sudo service powernap start for the settings to make effect15:51
RoAkSoAxI think that's a bug in upstart, isn't it SpamapS ?15:51
hggdhRoAkSoAx, restarted15:52
Disconnectanyone know why d-i isn't accepting the hostname? (dns resolution doesn't work, hoping thats not it..) its set in the preseed, but it still prompts. if i set it in the pxe config it works, but I need to preseed it.. (worst case, I can write it to /etc/hostname before rebooting and let puppet take care of fixing /etc/hosts, but thats a hack and a half..)15:56
RoAkSoAxhggdh: man I now understand what you go through when testing Euca!! hehe15:57
bobgDisconnect, what's the exact d-i line you are using?15:57
hggdhRoAkSoAx, heh. Welcome to hell :-)15:57
thesheff17Disconnect: d-i netcfg/get_hostname string hostname do you have this?15:57
Disconnectd-i netcfg/get_hostname string test-host & d-i netcfg/get_domain string domain.com15:58
Disconnectits popping up with 'ubuntu' as the default.15:58
Disconnect(fyi if anyone else is having issues with pxelinux not accepting localboot on kvm vms, chain.c32 works fine.)16:00
RoAkSoAxhggdh: brb gonna grab some chips and something to drink for today's long journey of testing euca+powernap :P16:00
bobgDisconnect, looks fine to me -- I don't set the hostname in preseed16:00
Disconnectthe domain is set correctly in /etc/hosts (with no prompt) it just doesn't like the hostname :/16:01
Disconnectonce this build finishes i'll see what is in debconf. maybe there is something else related..16:01
bobgDisconnect, do you install sudo-ldap in your preseed by any chance? (that's my problem -- I can't get that package to replace sudo in the preseed install)16:02
Disconnectyah i do in fact :) have to hack it with a post-inst script though. hang on i'll pastebin something for you16:03
bobgDisconnect, cool, you da' man (although I guess with the nickname Disconnect, I can't be sure :)16:04
Disconnect-might- be able to just "in-target env .."etc but I have a bunch of other post-run stuff16:05
bobgthanks a bunch -- I am off to try it16:08
Disconnectcool enjoy :)16:08
bobgDisconnect, I just started an install to test. I also set the hostname in the preseed, but it still prompted me too16:15
Disconnectawesome :/ at least i'm not alone :)16:15
georgie_bcan any one tell me a real time web traffic monitor software for xampp16:17
georgie_bmaybe also the cpu and memory usage load,performance monitors to016:18
georgie_bne body there?16:18
georgie_b@PrickelPit : is apachetop a free software?16:23
Disconnectdamn. debconf-get-selections --installer | grep test-  just shows the same hostname. time to dig through the file by hand..16:26
RoyKgeorgie_b: bsd license afaics16:27
RoAkSoAxhggdh: im setting euca im my local machine16:31
hggdhRoAkSoAx, I now have entries in powernap.log, but nothing seems to have happened. You want the log?16:32
RoAkSoAxhggdh: sure. what intrigues me is why euca is not reporting anything16:33
hggdhRoAkSoAx, indeed. No euca logs have entries matching 'wake' or 'power'16:34
hggdhRoAkSoAx, http://people.canonical.com/~cerdea/powernap.log16:35
RoAkSoAxhggdh: yeah as expected powernap is running and just waiting for a command from euca16:36
RoAkSoAxwhich never comes16:36
hggdhRoAkSoAx, we can try now with the old settings, and see what happens16:43
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Disconnectbobg: fyi if you add "d-i netcfg/confirm_static boolean true17:00
Disconnectthen hostname preseeding works17:00
bobgDisconnect, thanks for the tip17:01
bobgDisconnect, btw, my install is getting close to the point where it fails to install the sudo-ldap pkg -- fingers crossed17:02
Disconnectgood luck :)17:03
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Disconnectoops maybe not. it worked once, then prompted. sigh. i'll keep arguing with it.17:07
hggdhRoAkSoAx, with ACTION_METHOD=0 the system went into powersave (so it seems). But euca did not trigger anything visibly17:20
RoAkSoAxhggdh: yeah so for euca the NC is still running17:21
bobgDisconnect, my sudo-ldap pressed installed -- thanks17:22
RoAkSoAxhggdh: change ACTION_METHOD=1 and let the machine suspend and we'll see what euca does17:22
hggdhRoAkSoAx, ack17:22
RoAkSoAxhggdh: better yet,m change it to 417:22
RoAkSoAxin case it does not support suspend it will poweroff17:22
dmesgall  will be a17:24
RoAkSoAxhggdh: btw.. is the scehduler policy Round Robin or PowerSave?17:27
hggdhRoAkSoAx, roundrobin17:28
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok so then if we are in roundrobin then powernap should not do any action on the NC's because that should be managed by euca when on SCHEDPOLICY=POWERSAVE17:30
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Disconnectbobg: cool no problem. (that is the biggest most non-debian/ubuntu mess i've ever seen. we can't install it with puppet because of the environment var. can't preseed it, can't install it from apt..)17:30
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Disconnectrather, from aptitude (or apt-dater or ..)17:31
RoAkSoAxhggdh: so that means if running ROUNDROBIN then we should either disable powernap or configure it to monitor the Process "init"17:31
Disconnectcan't sudo install it unless you let them use 'env'..17:31
RoAkSoAxhggdh: so that it will never send the machine to "sleep"17:32
hggdhRoAkSoAx, let set it back to monitor init first17:32
hggdhRoAkSoAx, with action-method=417:33
RoAkSoAxhggdh: yes having that would be how powernap default before natty17:33
RoAkSoAx#init = "^/sbin/init"17:34
RoAkSoAxjust uncomment that line17:34
RoAkSoAxwhat will happen is that powernap will never go to sleep because it will always detect the init process17:34
hggdhRoAkSoAx, powernap restarted as above17:35
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RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok so this way everything should be as original17:40
RoAkSoAxi mean the beahviour as un previos releases should not change17:40
RoAkSoAxhggdh: I'm gonna write a before/after doc explaining how it was working and how is working now that will help us understand the issues17:40
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RoAkSoAxhggdh: let me ask you on question though. If we are in ROUNDROBIN and you manually turn off an NC, will the CLC/CC try to wake it up or will just assume that the node is off/failed or not available17:44
bobghey Disconnect, are you providing your preseed over tftp?  Isn't it too late to provide the network configuration then?  Maybe its ignoring all of the netcfg preseeds because it already configured the network to access tftp17:46
Disconnectit'll get it over http. in pxelinux append "url=http://(our foreman server):3000/unattended/preseed"17:47
hggdhRoAkSoAx, on round-robin it would assume the NC off17:47
Disconnectit says dhcp hostname will override the preseed if it is provided, but dhcp isn't providing a hostname.. (as evidenced by the fact that it takes domain from preseed and then prompts for the "missing" hostname..)17:48
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bobgDisconnect, what I am suggesting is that maybe the installer inspects all of the netcfg/ debconf vars (even the hostname) when its first initializing the network.  Then it loads your preseed from the network but it ignores the dbconf values that it has already queried17:51
Disconnectwhat i suspect its doing is: read netcfg from commandline, feed hostname/etc into dhcp client. get response back (including same hostname if present), use hostname, get preseed. if that hostname isn't present on the commandline, it'll come back blank and - for whatever reason - that overrides the debconf entry anyway..17:55
jfluhmannrunning into a situation similar to bug 29858 (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/29858)18:01
jfluhmannI have my root mounted on lvm that includes local drives and a Dell MD3000 storage array18:01
uvirtbotjfluhmann: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out18:01
uvirtbotjfluhmann: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out18:01
jfluhmannworked fine when using just the local drives18:01
jfluhmannsystem dropped to the busybox shell upon reboot after adding the MD3000 storage (which is similar to bug #29858)18:01
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 29858 in initramfs-tools "root on lvm fails to boot." [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2985818:01
jfluhmannI'm able to exit the shell and go to my normal login and things seem to work18:01
jfluhmannany direction on where I can start looking?  Seems like there's a step in the boot process that needs to be moved.18:01
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BilgeHow can it be that if I set the owner to root and the chmod to '0' for a file18:26
Bilgei.e. nobody can read/write/execute it18:26
BilgeThat a program can set the owner to itself and give itself read and write permissions18:26
geekbriany start-stop-daemon experts in here?  No process in pidfile '/var/run/stage2_loader/reporting_stage2_loader.pid' found running; none killed. i'm getting that error message but when i cat the pidfile it does indeed contain the proper pid for the daemon running18:27
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patrickwIs anyone running OpenAM (server + agent) on Lucid?  I can't seem to get it working...18:29
patrickwErr, and by OpenAM I meant the fork of Sun's OpenSSO, not the answering machine or whatever else is called OpenAM.18:30
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hggdhRoAkSoAx, I do not see the symptoms I had on A218:59
RoAkSoAxhggdh: alrighty then so we can assume everything is working as expected. now the issue might appear when we use SCHEDPOLICY=POWERSAVE19:01
RoAkSoAxhggdh: explanation here: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/575114/19:01
hggdhRoAkSoAx, agreed19:04
RoAkSoAxhggdh: will email kirkland about it to decide default behavior and so that it remains compatible out of the box for eucalyptus19:05
jiboumanssmoser, around?19:05
jiboumansi'm seeing this in my logs on a few machines; does this ring a bell to you? http://pastebin.com/BKHwHqDf19:06
patdk-wkjiboumans, google it19:06
patdk-wkthat has been around forever19:06
jiboumanspatdk-wk: that's exactly why i ask19:07
jiboumansthere's tons of issues reported, and fixes as well19:07
jiboumansi'm curious as to which may or may not have made it to 10.04.219:07
Davieyjiboumans, Wow, that is a throwback from the past.. I thought that was dealt with now, what release is that?19:07
jiboumans10.04.2, latest amis19:07
smoserjiboumans, here.19:07
jiboumansthe pids its reporting are no longer running on the machine, and i have been experiencing xvfb crashes on those, hence i'm wondering if its' related19:08
smoserjiboumans, 'import' like image magick?19:08
jiboumansah hmm19:09
jiboumanssmoser: yes, there's a cronjob that takes screenshots. i belive it uses image magick19:09
jiboumanssmoser: reckon this issue can be taking down xvfb?19:09
smoseri suspect that binary is not built properly built. i havenot looked much at it19:10
smoserthere is comment to that effect in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eglibc/+bug/42728819:10
smoserwhich is where we fixed the majority of it19:10
uvirtbotsmoser: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out19:11
smoserhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/432718 has a suggestion about how you could "fix" that binary with chrpath19:11
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 432718 in dbus "dbus programs will not use nosegneg libraries" [Undecided,Fix released]19:11
jiboumanssmoser: reading now19:12
SystemTyrantThis question has nothing to do with ubuntu, but does anybody know what the shortest cat 6 patch cable can be?19:14
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smoserhmm., but19:15
smoser$ chrpath /usr/bin/import19:15
smoser/usr/bin/import: no rpath or runpath tag found.19:15
smoseroh wait. that is a natty instance19:16
orudiehow can i check which version of postfix server i'm using19:17
jiboumanssmoser: if i'm reading this correctly updating dbus should fix this problem, no? if so, i have a more recent version of dbus installed than the one needed to get this patch.19:19
smoserthe dbus  programs were incorrectly built19:19
smoserand were causing that message because they would not use the nosegneg libraries19:20
smoseri suspect that imagemagick is similarly incorrectly built19:21
smoserit doesn't look like it is import, but something there is cuasing it19:22
jiboumanscan i do somethign to help track this down19:23
_wo__hey everybody19:24
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smoseryour imagemagick is from the archive? jiboumans ?19:24
_wo_i was secretly _wo_ this whole time19:24
_wo_and you thought i was _wo__19:24
_wo_no need to applaud, my work speaks for itself19:25
smosera simple invocation of 'import' doesnlt do it for me, and chrpath and ldd seem to idnicate import is using the correct libraries.19:25
DavieyWe /used/ to ship a libc6-xen for this situation jiboumans ... dunno why it stopped.19:25
smoserDaviey, its installed in the images19:25
Davieysmoser, ah.. that i thought fix0rd it.19:26
jiboumanssmoser: ii  imagemagick 7: image manipulation programs, straight from ubuntu mirrors19:26
orudieany idea why I get this error when I type php -version http://paste.ubuntu.com/575126/19:27
smoserjiboumans, i can't seem to reproduce it19:31
jiboumanssmoser: my setup is xvfb-run firefox and then using import to take a screenshot of the firefox instance19:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #728633 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72863319:31
jiboumanssmoser: i'm not sure if that adds anything to the mix19:32
smoseri just tired running vnc4server and then inside that using import19:32
smoserand I dont see any messages.19:33
smoserwhat is the import command line look like ?19:33
smosermaybe i need to force it down a path19:33
jiboumanssmoser: you an do it from the cli19:38
jiboumanslet me show you19:38
jiboumanssmoser: http://pastebin.com/RgbP1K1819:39
jiboumansthat's the start & screenshot script19:39
jiboumansyou can use xvfb-run xeyes or sometthing else i'm sure19:40
jiboumanssmoser: this is the important part for the screenshot: DISPLAY=${PORT} import -window root ${FILE}19:40
jiboumansdefault port is :9919:40
smoserright. thats what i was missing19:41
smoseryou see the libsegneg warnings in dmesg, right ?19:43
smoserjiboumans, ? i dont see them here.19:43
smoserxvfb-run firefox http://slashdot.org19:43
smoser DISPLAY=:99 import -window root my.png19:43
jiboumansare you running this on a lucid 10.04.2 server ami ?19:43
smoser$ dpkg-query --show imagemagick xvfb19:44
smoserimagemagick     7:
smoserxvfb    2:1.7.6-2ubuntu7.519:44
smoserand i verified that my.png looks like a firefox screenshot19:45
jiboumanssmoser: it only shows up once in my dmsg19:45
jiboumanspretty much towards the end of boot19:45
jiboumansthe cronjob fires every few minutes though19:45
smoseron console ?19:45
smoseror in 'dmesg' output19:45
smoseryeah. i dont see it19:46
smoser(it probably goes to console too, just was verifying)19:46
jiboumanssmoser: shows up in kernel log: ./kern.log:Mar  1 00:32:42 emulator-a018 kernel: [  345.360127]   **          in /lib/tls glibc libraries. The emulation is19:47
jiboumansthat's the only time19:47
jiboumanswhich is pretty much boot time for that host19:47
jiboumanssmoser: so we're not chasing something less important; if this is jsut slow performance, i dont really care, but my xvfb processes are crashing left and right without leaving any traces in logs, console etc19:48
jiboumansand i'm trying to find the root cause. this error stood out as something to investigate, but i'm not sure if it's a red herring or not19:49
smoserit really should just be slow performance19:50
smoserand i'm not really sure how slow.19:50
smoserlike if its 10% or 200%19:50
smoseri think red herring for xvfb19:50
smoserbut if its easily reproducible, you might just try the same xvfb in a kvm guest19:51
smoserand see if you can't get it to reproduce there.19:51
jiboumansit's reproducable on all the ec2 machines; after a whlie they just fall over19:51
Davieysmoser, AFAIK kvm has never had this issue... it was something xen was plagued with19:51
jiboumansbut the issue is no logs; i'm already running it inside screen with logging turned on19:51
smoserDaviey, right.19:51
smoserit wont.19:51
smoserwhich is why i was suggesting cutting out that red herring19:52
jiboumanswell, i'll just turn off the screenshots19:52
jiboumansit's a diagnostic tool i can live without19:52
smoserhow do they go belly up ?19:52
smoseror fall over.19:52
jiboumansmy monitoring tool tells me that there's no xvfb process running anymore19:52
jiboumansthe screen.log shows firefox whinging its display went away and then crashing19:52
jiboumansthe xvfb log says nothing19:53
Davieyjiboumans, What happens if you disable tls?19:53
Davieyjiboumans, ie,  mv /lib/tls /lib/tls.disabled19:53
jiboumansDaviey: if it's just the screenshots creating that message, i'll just turn those off19:53
jiboumansi can find this out very shortly19:53
jiboumanssmoser: syslog, daemon.log, kern.log, etc, all quiet19:53
jiboumanson oom killer19:53
jiboumansall quiet on the western front =/19:54
schmichaelwhere is a 10.04 AMI with root store as instance (not ebs)?19:57
schmichaelthese are all ebs: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/10.04/release/19:57
schmichaelah, found ami-7000f019. that should work19:58
Jonny5^hey guys, where can I find a .torrent for ubuntu server?20:00
ubottuMaverick can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/maverick/desktop/ubuntu-10.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/maverick/server/ubuntu-10.10-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your architecture. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com/20:01
Jonny5^thank you kind sir!20:01
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resnosetting up fetchmail and /etc/fetchmailrc is there. what should i do?20:04
resnois not*20:04
Jonny5^does ubuntu server include a gui for a stupid windows user like me?20:05
resnoyou can install it20:06
resnowhat are you looking to manage though?20:06
resnothere are web based tools20:06
Jonny5^I need it mainly for file sharing and chat, but it would be neat if I could use it for webbrowsing and viewing images and documents occasionally.20:07
Jonny5^oh and source control20:07
resnosurfing the web on a server?20:07
Jonny5^you know, for new downloads, stuff etc20:07
resnoor through it?20:07
resnoim confused by your purpose20:08
Jonny5^hmm. no. I actually thought of browsing. like open firefox and click stuff20:08
Jonny5^as a "backup desktop"20:08
resnoyou can do that if you want, most people wouldnt recommended that20:09
resnoyou can use the desktop versino and just install the server tools you need20:09
Jonny5^I know, I wouldnt recommend it myself20:09
Jonny5^but that's just a minor reason. the main reason for having a gui is to be able to scroll through settings menus and stuff20:09
Jonny5^you know, the way people manage windows servers20:10
Disconnectyou won't find a lot of them to scroll through20:10
Jonny5^well, I did appreciate the network settings dialog on knoppix a lot.20:10
Jonny5^that was way easier than finding the proper man page20:11
resnoyou are looking for a tool like webmin then20:11
Jonny5^does that come with the distro?20:11
resnoto actually manage the machine20:11
resnothats silly20:11
resnoyoull have to nistall it20:11
Jonny5^what does webmin do then? is there a pm to help me install it?20:11
resnoits not readily package with the installer20:11
resnoyoull have to do it more manual, buts what you're looking for20:12
Jonny5^fair enough20:12
Jonny5^I hope I don't have to build it myself though20:12
resnogoogle for it, its harmless isntall20:13
Jonny5^alright then. thanks again :)20:13
Jonny5^so, risking a flame war.. why would I choose debian over ubuntu?20:14
resnopersonal preference20:14
resnoubuntu is debain in many respects20:14
resnobeyond that someone else will answer20:14
Jonny5^are the packages compatible?20:14
resnotheres going to be samll differences20:15
resnoubuntu releases faster20:15
resnodebain has longer rlease patterns20:15
resnothink centos to fedora20:15
resnoif that helps20:15
Jonny5^you lost me with that last reply ^^20:15
resnothen forget it20:16
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RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok so I'm tryting to reproduce this locally and I can't get it to work... I installed following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CDInstall20:40
RoAkSoAxand the NC is not detected20:40
RoAkSoAxany ideas on how to resolve?20:40
RoAkSoAxhggdh: however, when doing euca_conf --list-nodes it does actually show the NC IP20:41
hggdhRoAkSoAx, look at /var/log/eucalyptus/registration.log20:44
RoAkSoAxhggdh: registered20:44
RoAkSoAx2011-03-03 15:29:40-05:00 | 19622 -> Node is already registered.20:44
RoAkSoAx[Thu Mar  3 15:44:41 2011][026938][EUCADEBUG ] DEBUG: requested URI
RoAkSoAx[Thu Mar  3 15:44:41 2011][026938][EUCADEBUG ] ncClientCall(ncDescribeResource): ppid=23816 client calling 'ncDescribeResource'20:44
RoAkSoAx[Thu Mar  3 15:44:41 2011][026938][EUCAERROR ] ERROR: DescribeResource() could not be invoked (check NC host, port, and credentials)20:45
hggdhRoAkSoAx, run 'euca-describe-availability-zones verbose', you should have a non-zero value for the limits20:45
RoAkSoAxhggdh: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/575175/20:45
RoAkSoAxhggdh: this is in KVM btw20:45
hggdhyeap, does not seem to be there20:46
RoAkSoAxweird indeed20:46
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ahhh apparently it didn't install the -walrus :S20:48
RoAkSoAxthat might be it20:48
hggdhit might. But I remember Dustin has to tweak something to run fully virtual20:48
RoAkSoAxhggdh: yeah there's something to change from KVM to QEMU20:49
RoAkSoAxi just don't remnember but, regarless, it should be able to report that the NC is up20:49
RoAkSoAxand be able to connect to the URL20:49
hggdhyes, you should be able to at least see a contact20:49
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ill try to look little deeper to see what might be going wrong20:51
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RoAkSoAxhggdh: daaaaaaaaaah dumb me... same issue as you I think :):P Didn't update to the latest eucalyptus21:16
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RoAkSoAxDaviey: have you found out anythen else about the IFACE problem in the upstart job?21:24
DavieyRoAkSoAx, no21:25
RoAkSoAxDaviey: k that's just weird though21:26
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RoAkSoAxDaviey: hggdh if a NC is off, should I expect to see any change sin euca-describe-availability-zones verbose ?21:55
DavieyRoAkSoAx, open bug about that21:55
hggdhRoAkSoAx, Daviey: the way I bypassed it was by taking out the instance $IFACE. The issue seem to be that this stanza is called without IFACE being set21:56
DavieyIt is an indication NOT a promise of accuracy21:56
Davieyhggdh, hmm21:56
Davieyguess previously that was allowed21:56
hggdhRoAkSoAx, it should -- most of the times -- show you 0 availab ility21:56
hggdhDaviey, yes, it was.21:57
RoAkSoAxhggdh: "most" hehe the NC is off and the CLC still shows AVAILABILITYZONE|- m1.small0002 / 0002   1    192     221:57
hggdhRoAkSoAx, heh. It should update in a few, on the next contact21:57
RoAkSoAxhggdh: nah i'm thinking might be because of the SCHEPOLICY=POWERSAVE21:58
RoAkSoAxhggdh: ok just tested... on POWERSAVE and ACTION_METHOD=0, Euca assumes that node is off and skips its checking22:15
RoAkSoAxhggdh: and the NC is running in PowerSave mode22:17
hggdhRoAkSoAx, even when the NC is *not* yet in powersave?22:28
RoAkSoAxhggdh: looking it simple, When the CC sends the command to Powernap, ti executes the action and goes to PowerSave... and CC assumes that node is sleeping, even tho it is not because the node is running in powersave. If something triggers any of the monitors in the NC and PowerNap detects it, it will wake up (example, if there's console activity in the NC). But the CC will have no clue of this has happened22:32
RoAkSoAxhggdh: however, if the CC needs to run an instance, it will send a powerwake to the NC, which will in trun recover action22:32
hggdhRoAkSoAx, so, even in a rather convolute way, it works22:33
RoAkSoAxhggdh: this of course doesn't consider "What if PowerNap goes to sleep before the CC tells it to?". This however is easly fixable by just adding a ProcessMonitor to sbin/init22:33
RoAkSoAxhggdh: in the perfect world, where powernap/eucalyptus timers are in sync, PowerSave works just fine, which I'm surprised but it is awesome22:33
hggdhyeah. One more thing to check22:33
hggdhRoAkSoAx, we should count our blessings...22:34
RoAkSoAxhggdh: After I finish my review I'll post all the info in the bug and decide what to do (either recommend to tune up PowerNap config after installation, or ship defaults)22:34
RoAkSoAxs/in the bug/in the bug report22:35
hggdhRoAkSoAx, thanks. It might be a good idea to consider it for a release note, perhaps?22:35
RoAkSoAxhggdh: yeah!! We need to consult this with kirkland as well22:36
mrayis there a trick to using preseed.cfg files with a USB thumb drive? I just want it to pass the file to the installer and go22:58
mrayI've monkeyed around with the syslinux.cfg and no variation of file or preseed/file seems to work22:58
mrayI've read the installer guide section a few times, using the example as my preseed.cfg until I see that it's actually working23:00
mraythumb drive just boots into the regular installer23:00
uvirtbotNew bug: #728752 in squid (main) "package squid 2.7.STABLE7-1ubuntu12.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72875223:01
RoAkSoAxmray: i think you are looking for something like this: http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerWhole#Preseeded%20Installation23:13
mrayRoAkSoAx: that's pretty close, I've seen that but I really want it to skip the first few steps as well23:14
mrayI want an unattended reinstall23:15
RoAkSoAxmray: maybe cobbler?23:15
mrayI thought preseed was the preferred way to do Ubuntu installs :)23:15
RoAkSoAxmray: my this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/UnattendedCD23:16
RoAkSoAxmray: or http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-unattended-ubuntu-network-install23:18
mrayI'd thought about going down that path, maybe instead of thumbdrives I'll go with PXE23:18
RoAkSoAxmray: yeah that's probably your best option23:18
RoAkSoAxmray: now that you are here, what's the status of zenoss. Have you guys go it working in natty?23:19
mrayRoAkSoAx: I'm no longer with Zenoss, I'm at Opscode23:20
mrayI'm working on Chef23:20
RoAkSoAxpoh idn't know that23:20
RoAkSoAxsorry about that one :)23:20
mrayno worries, I was recruited away23:20
mrayand now I'm working on OpenStack :)23:20
mraywhich tends to trash server installs when it goes awry :)23:21
loolsmoser: oy23:21
loolsmoser: Not sure how much you care about S3 and specifically S3 + FUSE23:21
RoAkSoAxmray: that's cool!! and yeah I know what you mean on the awry side of things ;)23:22
mrayI've got 3 boxes that take about an hour to reimage whenever I hose the Openstack install23:22
loolsmoser: I had a look at the most popular implementation, s3fs, and I've sent the packaging to the Debian ITP; it worked for me albeit slowly, but I've hit a deadend: it is GPL and links to openssl with no easy way to build with gnutls   :-/23:22
mrayso I need to automate it23:22
loolsmoser: I've just finished packaging s3-simple-fuse, and that one is faster and much simpler to maintain (it uses boto)23:23
mrayRoAkSoAx: gotta run, TTYL23:23
RoAkSoAxmray: have a good one23:23
loolsmoser: Would you have any interest in that?23:23
c0nv1ctwhen would it be beneficial to mark a connection rather than a packet in regards to traffic shaping?23:23
loolsmoser: If you'd like to try it out, it just finished building in my PPA23:26
airtonixI'm looking for a way to rename a screen in byobu without restarting the byobu session, is this possible?23:49

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