[01:50] <cyberanger> wrst: seems a bit redundant with ssh, but yeah
[01:51] <cyberanger> I'm not using xorg right now, why bother with a netbook, when all I want is to look something up and chat
[01:51] <cyberanger> I might be the few, but I wouldn't say rare
[02:30] <vychune> o/
[03:01] <chris4585> I noticed midori surfs the internet faster than chrome does when I'm under FAP
[03:01] <chris4585> hrm.. interesting
[04:00] <cyberanger> chris4585: not heard of midori, but there's some reasons I can understand that
[04:01] <cyberanger> how often do you get under fap?
[04:01] <chris4585> cyberanger, :O
[04:01] <chris4585> cyberanger, well, depends, my brother just moved in and hes just now getting how it works..
[04:01] <chris4585> but at least 4 times the past month (due to him moving in)
[04:02] <chris4585> we get a free token to reset it, but otherwise its $10 to reset it to normal again
[04:02] <chris4585> or just wait out the 24hour slowness
[04:02] <chris4585> before he moved in it was rare, once a month? or twice
[04:05] <chris4585> I try my very best to prevent it though
[04:06] <chris4585> for example... lets say for the daily bandwidth we only have 10mbs left, and there is an hour or so.. I will inplug the router to prevent us going over the bandwidth
[04:06] <chris4585> which is better because, 1hr with no internet is way better than 24hours of slow ass internet
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[04:08] <cyberanger> well, I understand, between my end as a hughesnet middleman (somewhere between corprate and consumer, working with a contractor, lose lose in ways, but I'd do it again)
[04:08] <chris4585> I sometimes look at the rate the internet vanishes to make the decision, just depends lol
[04:08] <cyberanger> and my exp. with celluar
[04:09] <cyberanger> which I'm doing again, sorta like a FAP too, 5gb a month, or I'm throttled, and I can reset it for another $40
[04:10] <cyberanger> which is not too bad, it lasts most of the month if I'm careful, and it's just like paying the bill early really
[04:11] <cyberanger> but I've deployed all my old tricks and then some, just to further keep it down
[04:11] <chris4585> yeah, I tell you though they don't know how much I appreciate the free token
[04:11] <cyberanger> one a month, right?
[04:12] <chris4585> yes, we don't get to choose when and it doesn't add up, I think it appears around the 15th or so
[04:13] <chris4585> right now I'm really curious as to why midori seems to run faster than chromium
[04:14] <chris4585> sometimes I take advantage of the fact if I know we have the free token, in a day thats about 900mbs worth of bandwidth
[04:14] <cyberanger> sounds right, on the token
[04:16] <cyberanger> if midori has a cache, uses it better, and is careful on any background networking tasks
[04:16] <cyberanger> prefetching,
[04:17] <chris4585> ah, well I certainly wish chrome would do the same
[04:25] <cyberanger> chris4585: midori doesn't say much , just guesses
[04:25] <cyberanger> logical possibilities
[04:26] <cyberanger> some of which I've got in between squid proxy and mozilla firefox (and an addon here and there) for the same effects
[04:30] <cyberanger> there were tricks in browsers and such, that people kinda removed, forgot about and such, useful in the dial up era, some are starting to crop back up for celluar connections
[04:30] <cyberanger> but not alot, and they'd excell for satellite too
[04:32] <chris4585> cyberanger, ah well thats interesting, so far its guessing pretty spot on
[04:33] <chris4585> on this one website at least, for some very odd reason it loaded facebook mobile I believe instead of standard facebook
[04:33] <chris4585> that was fine I guess, just not used to seeing that..
[04:33] <chris4585> I got what I needed and faster than chrome would have done for now
[04:34] <cyberanger> I've done alot of digging around, to find these tricks, loading a mobile site is one
[04:34] <cyberanger> usually that's a browser's user agent trick
[04:34] <cyberanger> and it's probally an obscure one
[04:34] <cyberanger> which would explain that
[04:36] <chris4585> well it worked
[04:37] <chris4585> at first though I thought I typed facebook.com wrong and thought it was a insecure trick or something
[04:37] <chris4585> lookalike website I mean
[04:40] <chris4585> I give it midori credit though while using these tricks and such it renders scripts rather nicely or on par with chromium
[04:44] <cyberanger> idk if that's it's intent
[04:45] <cyberanger> I mean, I don't see much contrasting it to chrome
[04:53] <cyberanger> it's nice reguardless
[04:53] <cyberanger> but idk if it's intentional
[06:49] <cyberanger> OH YES
[06:50] <cyberanger> man, my hometown hockey team is going to the playoffs again, means I might still be able to catch a game afterall
[13:57] <Xpistos> Guess who just got a big boy phone
[14:48] <wrst> Xpistos: what did you get?
[14:48] <Xpistos> MyTouch 4G from T-Mobile
[14:48] <Xpistos> wife got a Optimus-T and son got Samsung t669?
[14:49] <wrst> wow you guys stepped up into it didn't you... 4G!!
[14:49] <Xpistos> Well I did
[14:49] <Xpistos> I think hers is 3g?
[14:50] <Xpistos> My wife said this is what I really want and this way she will stop hearing me bitch all the time. Her words not mine.
[15:16] <wrst> ha ha
[15:16] <wrst> well congrats i love my phone
[15:25] <Xpistos> thank you
[15:26] <Xpistos> now how do I tell if I am getting 4g or not?
[15:26] <Xpistos> cause my connection icon says E above it
[15:46] <wrst> i have no clue Xpistos i'm on verizon, and it says 3G when i'm on 3G :)
[15:50] <Xpistos> ?
[15:52] <wrst> :)
[15:52] <wrst> ?
[15:52] <wrst> hey i think cyberanger is on T-Mobile
[18:09] <Xpistos1> What is the difference between XAMPP and WAMPP
[18:10] <wrst> Xpistos1:  all these hard questions today!
[18:38] <chris4585> wrst, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/unity-to-get-overlay-scrollbars.html
[18:38] <chris4585> interesting news, I like it
[18:40] <wrst> chris4585: i tried gnome shell i must say i like unity much better
[18:41] <wrst> that is very interesting, i think i like that
[18:41] <wrst> makes a lot of sense
[18:41] <chris4585> wrst, I'm waiting until they're both in the final stages
[18:41] <chris4585> wrst, I agree completely I can't wait to see it in action
[18:41] <chris4585> Ubuntu seems to be making a whole lot more progress this release
[18:43] <wrst> yeah that looks very cool and freeing up screen realestate, but i worry about dual monitor applications with unity
[18:45] <chris4585> wrst, hrm yeah, I haven't really seen anything addressing dual monitors, that will be interesting
[18:48] <wrst> yeah i'm not for sure how i will like that
[19:26] <vychune> o/
[20:23] <cyberanger> Xpistos: EDGE, not 4G
[20:24] <cyberanger> who's your carrier, and phone
[20:24] <Xpistos> T-mobile and MyTouch 4G
[20:24] <cyberanger> oh, mytouch, right (not the one I'd grab personally)
[20:25] <Xpistos> it isn't bad
[20:25] <Xpistos> and it is my first smart phone so I wouldn't know any better
[20:26] <wrst> Xpistos: i got a starter phone also i couldn't handle all the power at once i don't beleieve, like cyberanger can handle the power :)
[20:26] <Xpistos> lol
[20:26] <Xpistos> there is a lot to lean
[20:27] <Xpistos> and learn
[20:27] <cyberanger> lol
[20:27] <Xpistos> damnable sausage like appendages of mine.
[20:27] <cyberanger> yeah, I did my homework
[20:28] <Xpistos> at least I will be ready when I get my gtablet or xoom
[20:28] <Xpistos> course it is more difficult to make calls on one of those
[20:28] <wrst> took me forever to get used to actually making a call :)
[20:29] <cyberanger> menu > settings > about phone > mobile network type
[20:29] <cyberanger> Xpistos: ^^
[20:30] <cyberanger> what do you see there
[20:30] <Xpistos> Son's of bitches it says Edge
[20:31] <cyberanger> wrst: you might want to also try that, lemme know
[20:31] <cyberanger> Xpistos: are you in nashville, or south
[20:31] <Xpistos> south
[20:31] <Xpistos> 38401 - Columbia
[20:31] <Xpistos> so if there was 4g then it would say 4g?
[20:31] <Xpistos> or 3G
[20:31] <Xpistos> etc
[20:31] <Xpistos> ?
[20:32] <wrst> i don't have that option cyberanger
[20:32] <cyberanger> neither, Evolved HSPA or HSPA+ (not sure which) is 4G
[20:32] <wrst> my phone tells me when i'm on 3G or not in the info bar
[20:32] <cyberanger> wrst: I was sorta thinking that, and it might not have any LTE hardware anyhow
[20:33] <Xpistos> right now mine says E
[20:33] <Xpistos> for edge
[20:33] <wrst> no it doesn't 4G will not happen on this phone
[20:33] <wrst> by the time it is available around here i will try to update phones
[20:33] <wrst> but i'm already about as fast as my connection at home
[20:34] <wrst> actually a little faster
[20:34] <cyberanger> Xpistos: HSPA is 3G, it might also say UTMS
[20:35] <Xpistos> I guess I need to see what happens in nashville on sunday
[20:35] <cyberanger> and considering your not even near Nashville, double my distance to chattanooga
[20:36] <cyberanger> I'm not suprised
[20:36] <cyberanger> that your 3G
[20:37] <Xpistos> it doesn't say either of those just E
[20:37] <cyberanger> well, actually, not even 3G (but I wouldn't call it 2.5G
[20:37] <Xpistos> and Edge
[20:37] <cyberanger> the E is EDGE
[20:38] <pace_t_zulu> natty alpha 3 is available
[20:38] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: its looking up
[20:38] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: yea, it's come a long way
[20:38] <wrst> i may download and reinstall
[20:38] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i like the new touches on the installer
[20:38] <pace_t_zulu> looking more polished every day
[20:38] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: right now its got gnome shell beat in my book but can't say i'm jumping for joy with either really
[20:39] <cyberanger> Xpistos: that menu, those terms, that'll clearly tell you
[20:40] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: already downloaded :-D
[20:40] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: me too
[20:40] <cyberanger> and ready with jigdo for the beta and final
[20:40] <pace_t_zulu> desktop and server... i386 and amd64
[20:40] <wrst> I am downloading now
[20:40] <Xpistos> Mobile Network Type = Edge
[20:40] <cyberanger> it's considered 2.5G
[20:41] <cyberanger> but it's better than the other 2.5G methods
[20:41] <cyberanger> the marketing term that would not be 3G. UTMS or HSPA, or 4G HSPA+
[21:59] <cyberanger> how's everyone?
[22:00] <Xpistos> Why must every damn discussion in this office go to guns. I swear they do it to piss me off.
[22:03] <cyberanger> xpistos, just don't turn it into show and yell
[22:03] <Xpistos> my opinion of guns is they are for guys with lesser masculinity
[22:03] <cyberanger> not sure how that can piss someone off, well, maybe the gun control isle
[22:04] <vychune> o/
[22:04] <Xpistos> In any room in any normal house. I will put my knife against their gun any day.
[22:04] <cyberanger> ah, and i can see that
[22:04] <cyberanger> concealed carry though, isn't just for men
[22:05] <cyberanger> but women too
[22:05] <cyberanger> and for one person, has possibly saved her life
[22:06] <cyberanger> there's a reason i say last resort
[22:15] <vychune> what did i walk into?