[00:11] <bryce_> RAOF, any ideas for bug #726179 ?  
[00:11] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 726179 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "stuttery adobe flash chromium video playback (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726179
[00:20] <RAOF> bryce_: Um.  Nothing obvious.
[00:25] <thesheff17> RAOF: I finally figured out what was crashing my x server....it is the virt-manager...it is when I switching between an open virtual machine window and going back to the desktop.  I opened bug #719036 Is there anything else I could try?
[00:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 719036 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "[fglrx] ATI FirePro 2450 512MB PCI-e x16 Graphics Video Card crashed X every 24-48 hours (affects: 1) (heat: 254)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719036
[00:26] <bryce_> RAOF, I'm not even sure what procedure to use for analyzing flash video playback problems.  Is this likely to not be an X issue?  Maybe there's a more appropriate package this should be filed against?
[00:27] <RAOF> bryce_: It's probably better to file against the flash player?
[00:28] <bryce_> ok
[00:32] <bryce_> huh weird, we're getting a notable spate of "-fglrx doesn't install" bugs today
[00:34] <bryce_> oh maybe someone's just triaging them over
[01:13] <bryce_> RAOF, ok another "interesting" bug I'm nfi'd on - bug 721881
[01:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 721881 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in intel_region_data() (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/721881
[01:14] <bryce_> seems to be unity crashing in some mesa code
[01:18] <RAOF> Yeah, that's definitely mesa code.
[01:19] <RAOF> Ah, sweet mipmapping fun.
[01:22] <bryce_> do you have a 7.10.1 package in a ppa somewhere?  maybe having them test on that would be next action for this bug?
[01:23] <RAOF> I don't have 7.10.1 anywhere yet.  That wouldn't be a bad idea, but I don't think there's anything new in the i915 mipmapping code there.
[06:58] <tjaalton> hrm, after resume some parts of the screen are "dead", no input goes through
[07:24] <tjaalton> running compiz --replace restored sanity
[07:39] <tjaalton> RAOF: actually, I also have a personal git-tree on git.d.o, wonder if I could delegate write access to it..
[07:39] <tjaalton> for xf86-input-wacom that is
[07:39] <tjaalton> and whee, first patch accepted upstream (oneliner reported on lp)
[08:20] <ara> RAOF, hello
[08:21] <RAOF> ara: Howdie!
[08:21] <RAOF> What's up? :)
[08:21] <ara> RAOF, good, thanks! yourself?
[08:21] <RAOF> A bit tired.  I've just been running around, doing push-ups, etc for an hour or so.
[08:22] <ara> hehehe
[08:22] <RAOF> But I have a coffee, and a patch to make unity less hateful on multi-head systems!
[08:22] <ara> great, people will be happy :)
[08:22] <ara> RAOF, cr3 told me that you mentioned a bug in Lucid that prevent installations for desktops without a monitor attached to them, do you remember the bug number?
[08:24] <RAOF> I'll hunt it down.
[08:25] <RAOF> It was fixed in 1.9.
[08:25] <RAOF> Hah!  There it is.  Bug #337889
[08:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 337889 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "[needs 1.9] X server should fallback to vesa when a monitor isn't connected (heat: 4)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/337889
[08:27] <RAOF> That didn't get fixed by falling back to vesa, by the way, but kms drivers will start X without a monitor attached because they can resize the framebuffer when a monitor *does* get plugged in.
[08:27] <RAOF> ara: ^^^^
[08:28] <ara> RAOF, thanks!
[08:29] <ara> RAOF, do you think this will arrive as SRU to lucid at some point?
[08:30] <RAOF> Probably not.
[08:30] <RAOF> I could look to see how intricate it would be to backport if it's really important.
[08:31] <ara> RAOF, well, right now, for our testing environment, it is a bit critical, as we have a bunch of desktops and only one monitor. But, oh, well, let's hope to get a KVM :)
[08:32] <ara> RAOF, thanks for pointing me to the right bug 
[08:32] <RAOF> And you need to start X on them?
[08:33] <RAOF> Hm.  I guess so.
[08:52] <dpm> Hi all
[08:53] <dpm> Does anyone have an idea on how I could debug bug 726496 (or provide some more useful info so someone else more knowledgeable can debug it)?
[08:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 726496 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Cannot use Unity or Classic desktop with effects after the latest nvidia+xorg update (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726496
[08:57] <tjaalton> dpm: well, fwiw classic with effects works here. is the whole screen frozen, or can you draw on the desktop on some part of the screen?
[08:59] <dpm> hi tjaalton, the whole screen is frozen, as far as I can tell. The mouse pointer works. If I switch to a tty and then I switch back to the previous graphic screen, then the screen is black and the mouse pointer still works. Works, as in it moves, but clicking/hovering has no effect
[09:00] <tjaalton> dpm: ok, so its broken
[09:01] <dpm> yeah, the only workaround I've found is to switch to a tty, kill compiz and start metacity
[09:01] <tjaalton> could be a bug in the nvidia driver then. works fine on my gf8600gt
[09:01] <tjaalton> tseliot might have ideas when he shows up
[09:02] <tjaalton> where did you upgrade from?
[09:02] <dpm> ok, thanks tjaalton, I'll ask him
[09:02] <dpm> what do you mean, where I upgraded from?
[09:02] <tjaalton> you said there it used to work
[09:03] <tjaalton> was it natty or..
[09:03] <dpm> Oh, I see , I was already in natty, and the xorg+nvida had been held back for a while. As soon as there was a new nvidia driver in main a few days ago, I upgraded
[09:03] <tjaalton> ok, so it's probably the driver then
[09:04] <tjaalton> I've had a problem with compiz that it marks part of the screen "dead", where no input goes through
[09:04] <tjaalton> after resume
[09:04] <dpm> so do you think I shoud add a bug task for 'nvidia-current'?
[09:04] <tjaalton> yeah
[09:05] <dpm> ok, let me do that. In the meantime, do you think it might be worth going back to the previous xorg+nvidia versions? Are there instructions somewhere to do something like that?
[09:06] <tjaalton> oh I'm probably seeing bug 723014
[09:06] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 723014 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 4 other projects) "New window tracking system breaks in the case where windows try to restack relative to destroyed windows that were never mapped (affects: 1) (heat: 503)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/723014
[09:07] <tjaalton> dpm: that's an invasive change.. it's only possible if you have the old packages around
[09:07] <tjaalton> aiui
[09:08] <dpm> tjaalton, if it's only a matter of getting the old packages, I can see if they're still in the cache or I can get them from LP
[09:08] <tjaalton> you'd need nvidia-current, xserver-xorg-core, xserver-xorg-input-evdev (and -synaptics it seems)
[09:08] <tjaalton> at least those
[09:10] <dpm> ok, I'll give that a go, thanks tjaalton!
[09:12] <dpm> (but after work :)
[11:59] <dpm> hi tseliot, how are you?
[11:59] <dpm> if you've got some minutes, could you give me a hand debugging bug 726496?
[11:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 726496 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Cannot use Unity or Classic desktop with effects after the latest nvidia+xorg update (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726496
[11:59] <tseliot> hola dpm, fine thanks, you?
[12:00]  * tseliot has a look
[12:00] <dpm> fine as well, better than my laptop :)
[12:01] <tseliot> hehe
[12:03] <tseliot> dpm: what does this command say? update-alternatives --display gl_conf
[12:05] <dpm> tseliot, http://paste.ubuntu.com/574939/
[12:06] <tseliot> dpm: it looks fine. What driver/xorg were you using before the upgrade?
[12:08] <dpm> I was using nvidia as well, let me check if I can find out the versions
[12:11] <dpm> tseliot, I think I must have been using 260.19.29-0ubuntu1
[12:11] <dpm> (nvidia)
[12:12] <tseliot> ok, with the old xserver, I guess
[12:13] <dpm> yeah
[12:15] <tseliot> dpm: ok, I'll try to reproduce the problem here and then I'll talk to nvidia about it
[12:16] <dpm> sounds great, thanks a lot tseliot!
[12:55] <tseliot> dpm: oh, and please attach your nvidia-bug-report.log to the bug report. You can generate it in your home directory by running the nvidia-bug-report.sh script with root privileges
[13:53] <tseliot> dpm_: oh, and please attach your nvidia-bug-report.log to the bug report. You can generate it in your home directory by running the nvidia-bug-report.sh script with root privileges
[13:57] <dpm_> tseliot, ok, thanks for the heads up, done.
[13:57] <tseliot> thanks
[14:14] <lag> cnd: Are you around yet?
[14:14] <cnd> lag, yep
[14:14] <lag> cnd: Great, I have a query 
[14:14] <cnd> been a while since I've chatted with you :)
[14:14] <lag> cnd: I know, UDS I believe 
[14:14] <lag> I've fallen into the world of Linaro
[14:14] <cnd> so long ago :)
[14:15] <lag> It's a dark place :)
[14:15] <cnd> heh
[14:15] <lag> I'm currently working on ST-Ericsson's new u8500
[14:15] <lag> I have a Ubuntu desktop which is visible on the touchscreen
[14:16] <lag> When I run evtest, I can see that my presses are being processed, but nothing happens to the desktop
[14:16] <lag> Is there a missing link I should be aware of/can test in some way
[14:17] <tjaalton> 20Mpix camera, oh please.. :P
[14:17] <tjaalton> on u8500
[14:17] <lag> tjaalton: Camera is broken :(
[14:17] <tjaalton> lag: by design it seems :)
[14:17] <lag> tjaalton: Proprietary 
[14:17] <lag> tjaalton: Where were you looking to see that?
[14:18] <tjaalton> 20MPix crammed on such a small area means problems anyway
[14:18] <tjaalton> http://www.stericsson.com/platforms/U8500.jsp
[14:19] <lag> Ah cool
[14:19] <cnd> lag: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Testing/uTouchEvEmu#Debugging
[14:19] <cnd> if you can get me the device.prop and a sample device.record files
[14:19] <cnd> then I can figure out what's wrong
[14:19] <lag> tjaalton: http://www.linaro.org/snowball-announcement/
[14:20] <lag> cnd: That's great - then you can teach me how to debug it myself :)
[14:20] <cnd> ahh, I can do that right now if you want
[14:20] <cnd> when you run evtest
[14:21] <cnd> you should see ABS_{X,Y} events
[14:21] <cnd> and I believe you should see BTN_TOUCH go from 0 to 1 when you are actively touching
[14:21] <lag> cnd: I see: Event: time 1299161597.022652, type 3 (Absolute), code 54 (?), value 591
[14:21] <cnd> I believe that is all you need for basic single touch touchscreen support
[14:21] <cnd> ahh! you're getting multitouch!
[14:21] <lag> I am - cool
[14:22]  * lag 3 finger swipes the board
[14:22] <lag> Rebooted ;)
[14:22] <lag> I'll tell you something else ... when I touch the screen, screensaver is still activated
[14:22] <cnd> lag, ok, MT is complicated
[14:22] <lag> And in the console evtest is still seeing presses
[14:23] <cnd> I don't think I have enough time to run through it all here :)
[14:23] <lag> I just want it to work?
[14:23] <cnd> if you can get me the evemu files
[14:23] <lag> When I press Firefox, I want it to open
[14:23] <cnd> I can virtually recreate your device on my machine here
[14:23] <cnd> and figure out what's going on
[14:23] <lag> That's neat 
[14:24] <cnd> yep
[14:24] <lag> No idea how to install it though
[14:24] <lag> Where's the ARM *.deb?
[14:24] <cnd> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Testing/uTouchEvEmu#Debugging
[14:24] <cnd> it's in ubuntu
[14:24] <cnd> just follow the instructions
[14:24] <lag> cnd: Saw that, but I don't have networking on the device
[14:25] <cnd> oh
[14:25] <cnd> then download it to a usb drive?
[14:25] <lag> I can put it onto an SDCard - looking for the *.deb now
[14:26] <lag> cnd: Wooooooo: http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/u/utouch-evemu/
[14:26] <cnd> lag, isn't this an armel board?
[14:26] <lag> Yeah
[14:26] <cnd> in which case you can find it at launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/utouch-evemu
[14:26] <lag> Is the one at http://ports.ubuntu.com/pool/main/u/utouch-evemu/ incorrect?
[14:27] <cnd> I dunno
[14:27] <cnd> I don't know anything about ports
[14:27] <cnd> :)
[14:27] <cnd> it could be the exact same file for all I know
[14:34] <lag> cnd: Hopefully there isn't a loooooooong list of dependencies 
[14:34] <cnd> lag, I'd be surprised if there was any list of deps, tbh
[14:34] <cnd> it's c, and it operates directly on kernel ioctls and fds
[14:35] <lag> dpkg: error processing utouch-evemu-tools (--install):                                                                      
[14:35] <lag>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[14:35] <cnd> lag, you'll need it's lib package
[14:35] <cnd> libutouch-evemu1
[14:35] <cnd> but that's it
[14:35] <lag> cnd: Yep, installing that now
[14:35] <cnd> as long as you have libc too :)
[14:35] <lag> Lots of SD card (which is also used for rootfs) swapping 
[14:36] <cnd> heh
[14:37] <lag> Do I have to do: evemu-device device.prop
[14:37] <cnd> lag, nope
[14:37] <cnd> that's for me to do to debug
[14:37] <lag> Just the two files yeah?
[14:37] <cnd> yeah
[14:37] <lag> k
[14:37] <lag> En route
[14:43] <lag> cnd: Which repo are those tools in? I'm trying to install them on my desktop
[14:43] <lag> cnd: Or are they just in your PPA?
[14:43] <cnd> lag, they're in ubuntu
[14:44] <cnd> ubuntu main
[14:44] <cnd> natty
[14:44] <lag> Oh, not Maverick?
[14:44] <cnd> no
[14:44] <lag> Ah
[14:49] <lag> cnd: How's my input situation looking? :s
[14:50] <cnd> lag, I got your files, but it's gonna be a bit for me to get back to you
[14:50] <cnd> one of our team members is leaving tomorrow
[14:50] <cnd> and a bunch of tasks are being doled out
[14:50] <lag> cnd: NP, I'll move onto something else
[14:50] <lag> cnd: Thanks
[15:15] <agateau> hi
[15:15] <agateau> is it possible to run GDM inside Xephyr?
[15:32] <hrw> hi
[15:33] <hrw> compiz is crashing like hell on my radeon5450 with ati drivers (natty)
[15:33] <hrw> seb128 suggested to ask here
[15:34] <hrw> I reported bug 728495 about it, will expand it with some new data
[15:34] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728495 in compiz (Ubuntu) "hangs machine on alt-tab or going to screen corner (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728495
[15:41] <hrw> other question: I run evolution, it gives me 'add account' wizard and if I cover 'forward' button with mouse all text from window disapears. on second step all is gone too but if I switch to other window then checkbox with 'restore evolution from the backup file' re-appears.
[15:50] <hrw> re
[15:53] <tjaalton> hrw: which version of libgl1-mesa-dri do you have?
[15:53] <tjaalton> installed
[15:55] <tjaalton> probably the latest, just want to make sure
[15:55] <hrw> good question
[15:56] <hrw>  *** 7.11.0+git20110203.7535f93e-0ubuntu0sarvatt 0
[15:56] <hrw> will recheck with default ubuntu one
[15:56] <tjaalton> it's newer
[15:56] <tjaalton> the one from natty
[15:56] <tjaalton> though the edgers one should have the fixes I'm looking at...
[15:57] <hrw> this one is old edgers
[15:57] <tjaalton> 7.10.1~git20110215.cc1636b6-0ubuntu2 is what I have
[15:58] <Sarvatt> hrw: yeah ppa-purge xorg-edgers, natty should be better off. that edgers one is not using r600g either
[15:58] <tjaalton> oh :)
[15:59] <tjaalton> that might explain it then
[15:59] <hrw> I thought that I dropped all from edgers when 6.14 got released
[16:00] <Sarvatt> might want to add edgers to your sources, do an apt-get update (but dont upgrade) and ppa-purge xorg-edgers to make sure it cleans it all
[16:00] <hrw> Sarvatt: 17:00 hrw@home:~$ dpkg -l|grep sarv|wc -l
[16:00] <hrw> 0
[16:01] <hrw> ok, restrted x11, lets press alt-tab 8 times
[16:01] <hrw> works
[16:02] <Sarvatt> glad it was something easy :)
[16:02] <hrw> yes
[16:02] <tjaalton> yep :)
[16:03] <hrw> lets now test evo problem
[16:03] <hrw> still exists ;(
[16:14] <hrw> http://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/download/screenshots/evo/ - can someone take a look and comment?
[16:21] <hrw> ok, I need to get rid of compiz
[16:21] <hrw> if I maximize evolution window then it does not accept any input
[17:08] <tjaalton> heh, so the diff between winischofers sis driver and the 0.9.1 from xorg is 1.5MB
[17:08] <tjaalton> and winischofers driver was the basis for SiS's 771/671 work
[17:08] <tjaalton> actually, the basis was the premium version
[17:09] <tjaalton> the diff between it and the one from SiS is manageable
[17:14] <tjaalton> "manageable" meaning less than 1MB, but the SiS version has removed shadowfb and added xvmc
[20:39] <Sarvatt> ok, color me confused.. this is happening just from updating the kernel to 2.6.38-rc7 from 2.6.38-rc6, even got him to double check its still fine with the old kernel - http://launchpadlibrarian.net/65546346/ThreadStacktrace.txt
[20:54]  * Sarvatt shakes fist at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/+bug/728672
[20:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728672 in nux (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in intel_miptree_image_copy() (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Medium,New]
[22:27] <Sarvatt> bryce_: heads up we're going to get a ton of bugs if 2.6.38-rc7 (2.6.38-6) gets uploaded to natty soon, looks like unity and mutter are busted on it
[22:28] <Sarvatt> (on intel 965+, sorry)
[22:29] <bryce_> uh oh
[22:29] <bryce_> Sarvatt, ref?
[22:29] <RAOF> Eep.  On what hardware?  Everything, or just intel (or just *some* intel)?
[22:29] <RAOF> Aah.  So, basically, on all intel.
[22:29] <RAOF> Check.
[22:29] <bryce_> apw, ^^^
[22:29] <RAOF> Sarvatt: Does the kernel team know about this?  It sounds like something they might be interested in :)
[22:29] <Sarvatt> #intel-gfx and the bug I just linked
[22:29] <Sarvatt> looks like fedora is getting a bunch of bugs on it now that they updated too, i've been banging my head trying to figure out whats going on
[22:30] <Sarvatt> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nux/+bug/728672
[22:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 728672 in nux (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in intel_miptree_image_copy() (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 18)" [Medium,New]
[22:30] <RAOF> Yay mipmaps!  Why are they always the things that are broken?
[22:30] <Sarvatt> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681285
[22:30] <ubot4> bugzilla.redhat.com bug 681285 in mesa "i965: crash in brw_wm_surface_state.c::prepare_wm_surfaces() where intelObj->mt == NULL" [Unspecified,New]
[22:31] <Sarvatt> I asked the guy who reported the nux bug to try reverting c2e0eb167070a6e9dcb49c84c13c79a30d672431, only thing I can see remotely related
[23:02] <RAOF> Sarvatt: I presume that bug also happens on mesa 7.10.1?  I've updated it in pkg-xorg git now, if you're interested.
[23:34] <Sarvatt> not sure, was afk while waiting for him to test a revert, looks like c2e0eb167070a6e9dcb49c84c13c79a30d672431 (drm/i915: fix corruptions on i8xx due to relaxed fencing) is whats breaking userspace in 2.6.38-rc7 because its fine reverted..
[23:35] <Sarvatt> and \o/ thanks for updating it there!
[23:35] <RAOF> It obviously needs more testing before releasing on an unsuspecting populace, but it's there :)