[07:15] <zenrox> wow a long time since i have logd on to irc
[07:15] <zenrox> how are all the old hats doing
[07:16] <zenrox> and it looks like i only know one person here jdong
[07:16] <jdong> ugh and I've even barely been around
[07:17] <zenrox> i havnt bine on in close to 3 years
[07:17] <zenrox> i have moved 3 times since i was last on
[07:18] <zenrox> i now live in a collage town
[07:18] <zenrox> with my wife
[07:18] <zenrox> that i just married may of last year
[07:19] <zenrox> and i am missing my ubuntu :(
[07:19] <jdong> hehe
[07:20] <jdong> oh how time changes things
[07:20] <zenrox> i only have my lappy now no frankenstine pc's
[07:20] <jdong> I'm still doing Ubuntu work but oddly enough for the most part under the umbrella of the evil empire (tm)
[07:20] <zenrox> and i dont have the space for it
[07:21] <zenrox> lol tipical
[07:21] <zenrox> ant it
[07:23] <jdong> I guess so
[07:23] <jdong> hey, I have to feed myself at the end of the day.
[07:23] <zenrox> i dont even have a solid inet connection i am teathering my cellphone atm with a true unlimited 
[07:23] <zenrox> ya we all have to feed the need
[07:23] <jdong> yeah I was doing that for a week or two when I moved into this apartment.
[07:24] <zenrox> gotta love att
[07:24] <zenrox> lol
[07:24] <jdong> haha
[07:25] <jdong> I've got both an AT&T and a Verizon iPhone
[07:25] <jdong> both of which tether.
[07:25] <jdong> I was switching between the two
[07:25] <jdong> well the Verizon one I'm more or less paid to abuse, so I was using that one more.
[07:25] <zenrox> motorola karma q1a is what i use
[07:26] <zenrox> batt life is an issue tho about 2-3hrs of heavy use then i have t o switch out the batt
[07:26] <jdong> yeah the Verizon iPhone can tether for about 5-6 hours of heavy use
[07:27] <zenrox> but in a few days i qualify for a upgrade my wife wants it but she has a newer phone than mine
[07:27] <zenrox> and i am looking at a android 
[07:28] <Shadow__X> only relating to battery life. i have to say i am impressed with the battery life of my droid 2 compared to my droid 1
[07:28] <Shadow__X> motorola really made improvements to power consumption there
[07:28] <Shadow__X> and hey jdong 
[07:28] <zenrox> i am looking at a sony erassion xperia x10
[07:29] <Shadow__X> look at the upgrade cycle
[07:29] <Shadow__X> at the minimum to buy an android device it should be on 2.2 and even still some oem's take forever to push updates out
[07:30] <jdong> no offense to all the Droidies out there, but as someone who spends 10-15 hours of his day optimizing iDevice power usage.....
[07:30] <zenrox> this one is
[07:30] <zenrox> i think its 2.4
[07:30] <jdong> I'd have to say they barely improved it on the software side.
[07:31] <Shadow__X> :)
[07:31] <Shadow__X> i am on my secound android device and i think my next device will be an iphone 5
[07:32] <zenrox> i want to try an android befor i go al iphone and get locked out of the software
[07:32] <jdong> and hell personally I even feel iPhone/Darwin power consumption still sucks.
[07:32] <jdong> but eh then I'm getting too picky.
[07:33] <jdong> for the devices I work on, typical power draw is on the order of single milliamps :)
[07:33] <Shadow__X> what are they
[07:33] <jdong> various iPods 
[07:33] <zenrox> lol and the new ones he cant talk about yet
[07:33] <Shadow__X> ah isnt the biggest power draw at this point the screen though
[07:34] <jdong> well it only is because of the sheer amount of optimization done.
[07:34] <zenrox> i would think it would be the audio chips
[07:34] <jdong> try decoding AAC or MP3 on any other Cortex ARM processor
[07:34] <jdong> and tell me how much power it's drawing
[07:34] <jdong> probably 10x as much
[07:34] <Shadow__X> it would make sense they use specific chips for hardware decoding to lower the power draw
[07:35] <zenrox> every milliamp is like pulling teath
[07:35] <jdong> not particularly true :)
[07:35] <jdong> and yes, every milliamp is like an hour of music playback
[07:35] <Shadow__X> that would be one of the main reasons they are very particular about video they support
[07:36] <zenrox> unless you use rockbox
[07:36] <zenrox> but does that use more amps buy using a differnt decoder
[07:36] <Shadow__X> i would think so but we know someone else would know better
[07:37] <zenrox> yep
[07:37] <zenrox> and i wonder if he has tested that
[07:42] <zenrox> and the brain that jdong is has gone silent
[07:44] <Shadow__X> goodnight everyone
[07:44] <zenrox> night shadow
[12:21] <Daviey> okay, will grab it
[16:07] <Erik_NL_84> Hi All
[16:08] <s-fox> Hello
[16:12] <Erik_NL_84> Just checking out this channel. this is the general chatroom for the community right?
[16:12] <Pici> Erik_NL_84: I'd say that is #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:12] <Pici> But the forums people may disagree with me.
[16:12] <Erik_NL_84> Where is this one for?
[16:13] <Pici> Its ubuntuforum's home on IRC.
[16:13] <Erik_NL_84> Ok, so this one is for discussions about the forum in general?
[16:15] <Erik_NL_84> Then I think I indeed need to move to offtopic :P Bye