[00:04] I'll be back tomorrow [today's] morning. Take care everyone. [08:56] good day #ubuntuone ! [09:35] hello karni [09:36] hahaha duanedesign , why are you evil? [09:38] it is my alternate nick grouped to my acccount [09:39] evilduanedesign: indeed, I have verified your identity! the question is, what is evil in you :D [09:47] karni: I do not know who started it. But at some point some one started using evil in front of there nick in order to show they were on an 'alternate' computer [09:47] evilduanedesign: :D I didn't know that, funny! [09:47] this is me on irc cloud [09:48] and this is me on irssi/screen on my server [09:48] :) [09:50] ^ ^ I have karni bound to mkarnicki account as well :) [09:55] it is nice to have an alternate nick grouped in case one of your nicks gets ghosted (i think is corect term) [09:58] Bon matin! [09:58] evilduanedesign: indeed. rarely when I get disconnected, I might ghost myself for a short while, so I kill karni-myself from karni_ [09:58] JamesTait: holla! [09:58] Hey karni. :) [09:58] JamesTait: What's good James? [09:59] Everything! :) [09:59] How's life treating you? [09:59] Perfect! That makes a good day start for you :) [09:59] Good :) I had some beaurocracy at the Institute yesterday to handle :< But finally things are settled and I'm good! [10:01] That's good to hear. :) [10:23] Hi all, how does one tell if U1 has finished syncing all folders? [10:23] If I'm to believe the U1 control panel I'm always syncing [10:24] hello amitk [10:25] the new version of Ubuntu One found in natty and the Ubuntu One nightlies PPA is a lot smarter about telling you the status of your sync [10:25] and the notifications are always stuck at 47% completion [10:25] hmm [10:25] duanedesign: I am running natty up to date as of this morning [10:25] amitk: you can try the command: u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l [10:25] amitk: you can try the command: u1sdtool --waiting-metadata | wc -l [10:25] oops [10:26] 533 [10:26] amitk: and : u1sdtool --waiting-content | wc -l [10:26] amitk: those will ttell you the number of items in each queue [10:26] 275 [10:27] and you can check them to see if the number gets smaller over time [10:27] amitk: what do you get from the command: u1sdtool -s [10:27] duanedesign: so what exactly is u1 waiting on? I'm looking at .cache/ubuntuone/logs/syncdaemon.log and there seems to be no activity [10:28] and the queue seems to be stuck with no progress [10:28] State: QUEUE_MANAGER connection: With User With Network description: processing the commands pool is_connected: True is_error: False is_online: True queues: WORKING [10:28] oops [10:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com/574910/ [10:28] :) [10:28] so everything seems to be ok [10:29] but it's just sitting there twiddling its thumbs I guess [10:29] let me see [10:29] one sec [10:30] amitk: can you pastebin the syncdaemon.log? [10:30] duanedesign: all 10Megs of it? :) [10:31] duanedesign: or do you want something like tail -n100 [10:32] yeah [10:32] that is definetly enough [10:33] duanedesign: http://paste.ubuntu.com/574911/ [10:34] rye: ping [10:35] duanedesign, morning! [10:35] duanedesign, pong [10:35] good morning! [10:36] rye: was just helping amitk with a stuck queue [10:36] amitk, could you please kill ubuntuone-indicator for now? [10:36] amitk, that won't unlock the queues but will stop spamming the log [10:36] rye: glad to :) [10:36] amitk: i have to step out unfortunately. However you are in better hands with rye [10:37] rye: ps aux | grep ubuntuone-indicator has nothing there [10:37] duanedesign: thx [10:37] amitk, okay, now could you do grep MARK ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log and pastebin the filtered output? [10:38] amitk, hm, ah, then that's not an indicator, that's the manual runs of u1sdtool :) [10:38] * rye has a version of indicator for unleashed queues but I made something that confuses libappindicator and it decides to stop updating the menus [10:39] rye: you want a grep MARK output or a grep -v MARK output? [10:39] amitk, grep MARK, i want to see how queue got increased/decreased [10:40] rye: no change: http://paste.ubuntu.com/574912/ [10:41] (no change for while) [10:42] amitk, okay, looks like it got stuck [10:42] amitk, what version are you running? [10:42] rye: natty up to date as of this morning [10:42] amitk, are you using ppa nightlies for ubuntuone or stock natty? [10:42] stock [10:43] is syncdaemon-exceptions.log interesting to you? [10:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/574914/ [10:44] apt-cache policy ubuntuone-client [10:44] ubuntuone-client: Installed: 1.5.5-0ubuntu2 [10:44] amitk, grep -E "path_from=\"''\".*path_to=\"''\"" ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon.log [10:45] we definitely need some silencer for zeitgeist [10:45] rye: nothing [10:46] amitk, ok, anyway, i think you should start using ppa nightlies on natty since there are a lot of fixes that will soon be released. ppa:ubuntuone/nightlies [10:47] amitk, could you please send your syncdaemon.log to ubuntuone-support@canonical.com so that I could have a closer look and w/o publicly disclosing the filenames? [10:51] rye: on its way, big file, might take some time [10:53] amitk, hm, i should have asked to archive it :) [10:53] rye: duh, I should've thought of it [10:53] and mutt won't allow me to cancel it now [11:10] amitk, okay, while i don't see the signature for Move() bug there I definitely think you will want to install nightlies package. Facundo pushes the fixes quite frequently there (in natty the process of file upload/download queues was completely changed) [11:19] rye: running the nightlies don't kickstart the queue [11:20] amitk, hm, so you installed nightlies and restarted syncdaemon? (u1sdtool --quit; u1sdtool --start) [11:21] rye: I hope the packaging is good enough to do that, lemme do it again manually [11:21] amitk, unfortunately no [11:21] but i wonder why can't we put an inotify watcher for some system dir to tell us when sd is updated... [11:21] rye: ok, looks better [11:22] rye: the queues are receding [11:23] rye: why do you need inotify, the post-install part of the .deb package can (and probably should) restart the daemon [11:23] amitk, daemon is per-user, not a system one [11:23] rye: aah, understand [11:24] * rye needs to reboot to gain some superpowers the latest natty upgrade has delivered [11:24] rye: thx [11:24] amitk, if you notice something is wrong with nightlies feel free to poke me and if that turns out to be a bug we'll create one. I am monitoring all incoming bug reports now [11:25] rye: ok [11:30] im, back :) [11:30] unity: [11:31] are you using unity? [11:31] clicking on the ubuntu icon, writig gedit. Files & Folders: two icons 1) Your search did not match any files 2) Search the web [11:31] i am still in classic desktop [11:31] duanedesign, yup [11:32] waiting for the 'dash' to be better [11:32] * duanedesign reading scrollback [11:32] duanedesign, well, i want to test as much as I can and I don't mind occasional hick-ups [11:32] god point [11:32] err [11:33] good point [11:33] duanedesign, if they are occasional [11:33] didnt look like [a]mitk had the Move() bug? [11:33] was not sure if that fix is in Natty yet? [11:33] i don't get it. Just updated both machines to latest and greatest. On has dash search working, another one has not [11:34] ohh, dash search is what i have been waiting on :) [11:34] duanedesign, no, that was not limbo move bug, but it was something related. Resolved by updating to nightlies, looks like [11:34] is one 2-d unity? [11:34] duanedesign, nope, bot "3d" ;) [11:34] h [11:35] so if I uupload my ~/Music folder those songs will be available for streaming? [11:35] duanedesign, yes if you have mobile plan [11:40] I am still on the old school 50GB plan :P [11:45] hello #ubuntuone! [11:45] hello alecu [11:45] alecu, hi, [11:46] alecu, i can't seem to get the unity progress icon for syncdaemon [11:46] alecu, i mean occasionally i see it but e.g. now when i am uploading files i don't [11:46] rye, did you get it in the past? [11:47] alecu, yep, i used to have it with a progress bar [11:47] rye, is the control panel open right now? [11:47] alecu, not right now [11:47] rye, try opening the control panel and if it does not show up, try restarting syncdaemon. [11:48] rye, I believe there's a problem in the packaging that has disabled the icon when the controlpanel is not running. [11:48] rye, and I'm not sure if the progressbar item is restored after unity crashes or is restarted. [11:49] alecu, it is not, i wanted to file a bug about this but now i can't get the icon itself [11:50] rye, you can't get the icon even when running the control panel? [11:51] alecu, well, the icon pops up there, right... aha, and if control panel is running then progress bar appears properly. hmmm [11:51] alecu, should that be so? [11:52] rye, the icon should be shown always, regardless of the control panel started or not. [11:53] rye, so I believe it's a bug in the .desktop file of the control panel [11:53] rye, this is with nightlies, right? let me update. [11:59] alecu, yup [11:59] erm [11:59] why does it allow opening 2 control panels? [12:00] rye, it shouldn't [12:00] I believe nessita worked on a fix to that [12:00] alecu, well, it does not inforce it with a dbus lock... i can still start 2 control panels from the termianl [12:01] rye, oh, from the terminal. [12:02] rye, well, the check to start only one control panel should apply in that case as well. [12:02] hello everyone [12:02] hi nessita! [12:03] nessita, rye was telling me that the control panel can be started twice when run from the terminal [12:03] alecu: yes, known bug [12:03] can be started N times [12:03] nessita, N+1 :-P [12:03] nessita, morning! [12:03] rye: can you please file a bug? I will tackling that after UI freeze [12:03] nessita, also rye was telling us that the launcher icon is gone on the nightlies (it only shows up when running the u1cp) [12:03] hi there :-) [12:04] alecu, rye: I would not know about that. You should ask dobey, I know we asked him to move the logo from u1client-gnome to u1client [12:04] maybe something is not updated/propagated yet? [12:04] * nessita updates nightlies [12:04] nessita, this is not about the .png, but about the .desktop [12:05] oh [12:05] nessita, the logo shows fine when the u1cp is run [12:05] weird [12:05] nessita, no control panel = no icon in launcher :( [12:05] nessita, it's the launcher icon that's gone. [12:05] rye: no control panel installed? or opened? [12:05] nessita, "no control panel *running* == no icon in launcher" [12:05] nessita, opened [12:05] hum [12:06] well, the people in unity set the predefined list of things in the launcher [12:06] nessita, this looks like the default icons in the launcher that didier was working on. [12:06] rye: when did you notice this? [12:06] alecu: right [12:06] nessita, today, but I can't say I remember seing ubuntuone icon w/o control panel being opened [12:07] rye: I can, yesterday it was there [12:07] alecu, moreover, if control panel is started after sd has started doing things the progress bar does not appear even if it syncs 501 files [12:07] let me restart on unity desktop once I install all the updates [12:07] nessita, i wish you a lot of good luck with that [12:07] rye, that's probably a bug [12:07] :-( [12:08] omg [12:08] I have an alternating File Sync in progress... File sync is up to date !!! [12:08] in the control paneel [12:10] rye: ah, i've seen that... we can't do much [12:10] rye: syncdaemon is moving from IDLE to not IDLE really fast :-( [12:10] nessita, can we do a some kind of delayed notification, say, 5 seconds? [12:10] nessita, i.e. if sd has reported IDLE then wait for 5 seconds before setting IDLE in the UI? [12:11] nessita, if it has not changed the status for that period then ok, we will display IDLE. otherwise, extend the File sync is in progress for next 5 seconds [12:11] nessita, what is syncdaemon doing in this case? [12:11] it reminds me of the notification hell so much... [12:11] rye, :-) [12:12] rye: we could, but sadly is not going to happen for natty :-( [12:12] nessita, well, at least it does not display a notification for every idleness :) [12:13] yes, alecu and thisfred made a very good job [12:13] rye, that's because the "non-idleness" is now calculated when files are actually uploading or downloading. [12:13] rye, and not when syncdaemon is doing misc stuff. [12:14] alecu, looks like when there is a concurrent changes on active and inactive volume then sd skips inactive volume, switches to IDLE, then server sends change notification for active volume and sd rushes to WORKING... [12:14] hm [12:15] * rye tries to reproduce confused libappindicator... [12:24] good morning everyone [12:28] morning ralsina ! [12:28] hi karni [12:31] I am trying to get more info about the DBus API [12:34] I tried this: ./autogen.sh --with-protocol=../ubuntuone-storage-protocol && make && make docs [12:41] beuno: look! capitalized service names! https://code.launchpad.net/~nataliabidart/ubuntuone-control-panel/capitalize-translate-services/+merge/52001 :-) [12:41] and even better, translatable service name :-) [12:44] nessita, yay! looking [12:46] I'm jumping out to grab a lunch, be back soon! [12:46] * karni lunch! [12:46] ops.. that was supposed to be my away msg ;d [12:47] PS beuno please have a look in your @canonical inbox, I'd like to constult the flights with you. Thanks! I'll grab some lunch now. [12:48] karni, will do [12:52] nessita, looks great, +1ed! [12:52] thanks! [12:52] my system does not look that well :-D [12:53] I'm sure it looks well, just not for very long [12:53] hehehe === adorilson_ is now known as adorilson [12:57] ralsina: I'll be offline for a while to test some issues with bug #720990 [12:57] Launchpad bug 720990 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Natty: Offline experience needs some love (affects: 1) (heat: 273)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/720990 [12:57] nessita: go ahead, I'll check the review you mailed me [12:57] ralsina: if you need me call my cell. Thanks! [12:57] mandel: wheather in London in April apparently is horrible. === nessita1 is now known as nessita [13:00] argh network manager keeps respawning [13:01] nessita: did you try "stop networkmanager" [13:01] upstart will respawn it if you don't [13:01] networkmanager: unrecognized service [13:01] I don t know the service name :-) [13:02] ls /etc/init.d | grep -i net [13:02] ah! network-manager [13:02] done [13:02] but I still have internet :-/ [13:02] nessita: NM doesn't shut down interfaces when it stops [13:03] ifconfig eth0 down (or whatever) [13:03] ok, I'll shut them by hand [13:03] I am guessing all that is intentional, too, to keep network up if NM dies [13:23] * nessita is back [13:29] * alecu will reboot for upgrades [13:39] nessita: ping [13:41] oh, this is just lovely. [13:41] mandel: pong [13:41] after the update, eclipse won't start :-( [13:41] alecu: no, is not. I have no window decorations! :-) [13:41] nessita: morning :) [13:41] hi there! [13:41] nessita: do you have a second to answer one question? [13:41] nessita, run unity in a terminal, it should fix itself. [13:42] nessita, eclipse won't start! that's just lovely. [13:42] mandel: of course! [13:42] alecu: I saw that jave 6 was removed [13:42] java* [13:42] no way! [13:42] nessita, how comes? [13:42] alecu: isn't that your issue? [13:42] nessita: in ubuntu_sso, do you have a twisted reactor running? [13:42] nessita, how comes it was uninstalled? [13:42] alecu: I'm not sure, but when I installed the updates, all the java stuff was removed [13:43] I didn't care, so I said ok [13:43] mandel: nopes, we use only the gtk mainloop [13:43] mandel: no twisted involved at all. Only twisted deferred are used, but they do not need the twisted reactor but any main loop running [13:44] nessita, it wasn't uninstalled for me: "openjdk-6-jdk is already the newest version." [13:44] nessita: ah, ok, I was just wondering if you could use deferTothreadPool instead of the blocking function (in main.py) [13:44] alecu: ah, I was referrring to actually java packages. With java in the name [13:44] nessita: then np at all, thx! [13:44] mandel: nopes, we have no reactor running. You're welcome! [13:45] mandel, just like nessita says. We use the deferred as a control structure, so we get nice tests with inlineCallbacks, but no reactor [13:48] this is lovely: "java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3557 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file" [13:48] alecu: install the swt-gtk package! (?) [13:49] it was surely installed... I was working on eclipse before upgrading :P [13:49] alecu: the binding from gtk are missing in your path, check if the pacakage is there, then the path :P [13:49] alecu: the path could be screwed up [13:51] looks like eclipse does not depend on libswt-gtk-3.5-java :P [13:52] alecu: it uses swing, right? [13:52] mandel, no: eclipse uses swt [13:53] really? He I'm old [13:53] mandel, swt is a java wrapper on top of native widgets [13:53] alecu: all I remmeber form java is hating swing :) [13:53] ralsina, alecu, beuno: any wild ideas (but easy to implement) about how to improve user experience when there is not internet connection? right now a user gets http://launchpadlibrarian.net/64548035/u1-offline-2.png [13:53] (stand up in 7!) [13:55] nessita, first: remove all "Value could not be retrieved." [13:56] nessita, second: put the latest percentage retrieved in the progressbar (maybe store it in .cache) [13:56] alecu: GUI does not distinguish an 'operational' error from a 'no network connection' error [13:56] alecu: we won't do cache this cycle [13:57] nessita, third: replace "File sync starting" with "No connection to U1 servers." [13:57] and that's all. [13:57] alecu: I was looking for a simpler solution, using what we already have [13:57] nessita, what is an "operational error"? [13:57] for example, replace 'Value could not be retrieved, do you have an internet connection?' [13:57] * alecu runs to do his standup notes [13:57] alecu: a failure/error [13:58] nessita, ok. what other errors other than "no connection to the server" there are? [13:59] alecu: is not no connection to the server, is no internet connection. Not only syncdaemon can't connect to the server but no API calls can be made [13:59] alecu: anything can happen, the backend can fail by any exception/problem, and we only send one error signal [14:00] me [14:00] me [14:00] me [14:00] me [14:00] me [14:01] nessita, how about filing it with "Can't connec to Ubuntu One servers [retry]"? [14:01] beuno: right now, with the info we have, the GUI does not know if the error is casued by a lack of internet connection or becasue the backend exploded [14:02] nessita: the error is not meant to explain exactly what happened, it's meant to suggest a course of action. What can the user do? [14:02] all: ralsina sent me an sms saying he has not net connection [14:02] nessita, anyway: there's no need to show the exact cause. If the backend exploded for the user is the same. [14:02] ralsina: you're here! [14:02] * ralsina has it now :-) [14:02] dobey, standup? [14:03] alecu: right, but if the user has connection, and we're saying "Can't connec to Ubuntu One servers [retry]", and the error persists, wouldn't that be frustating? [14:03] dobey: simon says standup! [14:03] * mandel is like a kid [14:03] thisfred, go! [14:03] DONE: Almost finished Bug #702183, Bug #702176, Bug #702172 [14:03] TODO: figure out how to "pop-under" the control panel, and have it ask for attention from u1-client [14:03] BLOCKED: no [14:03] NEXT: nessita [14:03] Launchpad bug 702183 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to open the control panel in the background and change the launcher icon to urgent when the user exceeds their quota (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702183 [14:03] DONE: killed bug #728027, bug #727996, bug #727998, bug #725143. Meeting with cparrino and ralsina to review u1cp UI and strings. [14:03] Launchpad bug 702176 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to open the control-panel to volumes when a folder shared to the user exceeds the owning user's quota (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702176 [14:03] TODO: bug #720990 and everything that comes from design [14:03] BLOCKED: nopes [14:03] NEXT: mandel [14:03] LOVE: VACATIONS [14:03] Launchpad bug 702172 in ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Syncdaemon needs to send a notification when a folder shared to the user exceeds the owning user's quota (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/702172 [14:03] Launchpad bug 728027 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Service names should start with an uppercase letter (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728027 [14:03] Launchpad bug 727996 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Show local device first in the device list (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727996 [14:03] Launchpad bug 727998 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Misc improvements to the gtk UI (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727998 [14:03] Launchpad bug 725143 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Make buttons in Account tab be regular buttons (affects: 2) (heat: 10)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725143 [14:03] Launchpad bug 720990 in ubuntuone-control-panel (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Natty: Offline experience needs some love (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/720990 [14:03] DONE: bug #727680, most of bug 728339. [14:03] TODO: Propose merges for work done so far for sso. Bug 727984, bug 727396 [14:03] BLOCKED: no [14:03] alecu, please [14:03] Launchpad bug 727680 in ubuntu-sso-client "There is no network status implementation on Windows (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727680 [14:03] Launchpad bug 728339 in ubuntu-sso-client "Main references dbus and cannot be used in those env that do not have it (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728339 [14:03] DONE: android UI experiments to get activity/dialog handling right [14:03] TODO: build UI for login (still bug #725290), modify retry code to be async [14:03] BLOCKED: my nose, my ears and the middle part of my brain [14:03] HATE: sudden climate changes [14:03] NEXT: ralsina [14:04] Launchpad bug 727984 in ubuntuone-client "New IPC signals for windows part (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727984 [14:04] Launchpad bug 727396 in ubuntuone-client "AttributeError: 'Root' object has no attribute 'subscribed' (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727396 [14:04] Launchpad bug 725290 in droidcouch "Get valid OAuth tokens for the logged in user (affects: 1) (heat: 7)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/725290 [14:04] DONE: calls, reviews, some bug triaging [14:04] TODO: calls reviews, bug fixing [14:04] BLOCKED: not [14:04] ah, TODO.append('weekly call') [14:04] I suppose dobey? [14:04] and TODO.append('dentist') [14:05] * ralsina is awfully vague in his status these days but promises to improve [14:05] * nessita is a mess today [14:05] nessita is today known as messita [14:05] r+! [14:05] ok, comments? [14:05] alecu: I will give you candy when in BA [14:06] alecu: do you have my card for the waiting rooms (whatever it's called) or you gave it to me and I lost it? [14:06] nessita, green, made with cloth and shaped like a chair? [14:06] I'm a little sleep deprived so feel yourself warm [14:06] ralsina, I have it! [14:06] alecu: I will be needing it next month ;-) [14:06] ralsina, cool! [14:07] Assuming I am not fired in 3 days when my probation ends (fingers crossed!) [14:07] ralsina, I totally forgot about it... in fact I should have taken it with me last saturday. [14:07] ralsina: you meant priority pass? [14:07] alecu: since you didn't arrive there anyway, no problem :-) [14:07] alecu: speaking of which, John's sister mentioned JOhn left something for you here in Cba? [14:07] ralsina, but we'll meet in the sprint before you travel... right? [14:07] alecu: mail me where and when it can be picked up and I'l send a messenger [14:07] alecu: yes, of course [14:07] so, no messenger [14:07] nessita, yes, something green, made with cloth and shaped like a chair [14:08] nessita: "feel yourself warm"? I do! [14:08] ralsina, no need for messengers, let's icq :P [14:08] alecu: te mando una moto ;-) [14:08] I know! [14:09] una moto con un ninja asesino? [14:09] ok, so eom? [14:09] eom! [14:09] alecu: ah. I don't have it, she just mentioned it [14:09] eom [14:09] alecu: no, el ninja está re caro [14:09] now onto trying to fix eclipse. [14:09] BLOCKED.append("eclipse broke (I didn't do it, promise!)") [14:10] ralsina: midget ninjas are cheaper [14:10] nessita: alecu: so, re: attention seeking pop-under: as I understand it, this is done by opening a window and setting some property on it, which will make it blink in vanilla gnome, and bounce in unity [14:11] thisfred: is there any chance in your schedule that you deal with that? :-) [14:11] mandel: only if you buy by weight :-) [14:11] ralsina: I always buy my assasins by wight, is far better of a deal [14:12] nessita: oh sure [14:13] nessita: I just wanted to discuss how to best do it first [14:13] thisfred, looks like this should be done on the control panel process [14:13] alecu: seems like it [14:13] thisfred, perhaps you can take a look at the way it's done on the updates-dialog [14:13] nessita: alecu: I *think* we should do this in the control-panel itself, and then have a command line option --popunder=True or something, and a way to do it through dbus as well [14:14] thisfred, since that is surely python as well [14:14] hi, wanted to buy a new album "30 seconds to mars - this is war" but rhythmbox u1musicsotre plugin is very slow, search takes minutes, and i don't get the same results as on 7digital for my local country [14:14] BE [14:14] alecu: yeah, that's probably the best first step [14:14] thisfred, also take a look at the way they do the cmdline + dbus stuff too [14:15] right [14:15] first I have to figure out what process in what project actually monitors the changes and then opens the update-manager. Hopefully it's in the update-manager itself [14:17] λ DONE: bug #727556, upstreamed fix to select u1ms source when opening links in banshee, started looking at aptdaemon language issues [14:17] Launchpad bug 727556 in libubuntuone "u1ms: links don't open unless store already loaded (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727556 [14:17] λ TODO: bug #727558, mp3 install in banshee [14:17] Launchpad bug 727558 in ubuntuone-music-store (and 1 other project) "Need to notify user when Purchased Music folder is not subscribed (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727558 [14:17]