[03:07] <holstein> hey ScottL 
[03:07] <holstein> DeusQain was just asking about how to get cinelerra included in the next release
[03:08] <DeusQain> that I was.
[03:08] <holstein> DeusQain: you want it in there by default?
[03:09] <DeusQain> One of my site members directed me to studio, and I saw that Kino was installed by default..
[03:10] <DeusQain> after checking out kino, I thought it was less useful.
[03:10] <holstein> well, we gotta pick one
[03:10] <holstein> as soon as we would switch them
[03:10] <holstein> im sure someone would complain
[03:10] <DeusQain> true.
[03:10] <holstein> i think kino had more polish?
[03:10] <holstein> maybe?
[03:10] <holstein> or maybe just less stuff
[03:11] <holstein> and simpler
[03:11] <holstein> im not a video guy
[03:11] <holstein> and just briefly looked at them
[03:11] <holstein> ScottL does a lot of video
[03:11] <holstein> though
[03:11] <DeusQain> ahh.  Cinelerra is more a "pro" piece of software, I could see why it's less likely a candidate.
[03:12] <DeusQain> for general distribution.
[03:12] <holstein> DeusQain: valid argument though
[03:12] <holstein> bring it up
[03:12] <holstein> if its a better tool, we should discuss it
[03:13] <DeusQain> excellent.
[03:16] <holstein> DeusQain: you do audio?
[03:16] <holstein> or mostly just video?
[03:16] <DeusQain> both.
[03:17] <holstein> cool, check out #opensourcemusicians when you can :)
[03:17] <DeusQain> Used to be an audio engineer for a Radio Station, and Also worked as an editor for a TV station.
[03:17] <holstein> nice, lots of pro experience then
[03:18] <DeusQain> yeah.. but that was years ago.
[03:18] <DeusQain> This day and age, I'm a System/Network admin.
[03:19] <holstein> DeusQain: welcome to the party :)
[03:20] <DeusQain> Long time lurker, first time community contributor.
[03:20] <DeusQain> :D
[03:20] <holstein> good timing
[03:20] <holstein> we need the contibs for sure
[03:20] <holstein> and right now, we really dont have a lot of video folk envolved
[03:20] <holstein> i just dont have time to test the stuff
[03:21] <DeusQain> I hear that.
[03:21] <holstein> and even if i did, i dont know if i would really know what to do in there anyways
[03:21] <holstein> ScottL has some cool green screen stuff though
[03:21] <holstein> and i want to say that was in cinelerra ?
[03:21] <holstein> not sure
[03:22] <DeusQain> That's a good thing to look into.
[03:22] <DeusQain> I'm not sure if Cinelerra has the masking ability of like.. After Effects.
[03:22] <DeusQain> hmm..  Must do more research.
[03:24] <DeusQain> I currently run a PC and gaming website, (I bring the opensource, linux, ultra geek/nerd stuff to the table)
[03:24] <DeusQain> we do a bunch of random videos.
[03:24] <holstein> cool
[03:24] <holstein> how is it for gaming?
[03:24] <holstein> are you writing linux games?
[03:24] <holstein> i know theres $$ in it
[03:24] <holstein> and it wouldnt be that hard to code for all
[03:25] <DeusQain> The site, is more a community of PC enthusiasts, with a gamer oriented theme.
[03:25] <DeusQain> I'm the Opensource advocate.
[16:02] <ScottL> holstein, i'm anxious to get the menu fix underway, are you available this week to rock it out?
[16:03] <ScottL> if not i can handle today probably as i'm home sick on my birthday with the flu (and the rest of the family)
[16:08] <DeusQain> Best of Birthday wishes, and hope you feel better.
[16:10] <DeusQain> ScottL: I was told you are the one I should speak with, but my concerns can wait..  I have to head out, but I will catch up with you another time.
[19:59] <holstein> ScottL: ping
[20:08] <holstein> ScottL: im totally into helping out, and should have time this weekend... ping me if you are working on it, and i'll ping you if im sitting around bored :)
[20:09] <holstein> i emailed the list to instigate a meeting for sunday
[20:09] <holstein> lists*
[20:09] <holstein> i meant to get at this sooner
[20:09] <holstein> but, if we do them monthly at the same time, hopefully that will help with the attendance
[22:37] <ScottL> holstein, good email on the meeting
[22:38] <ScottL> after reading tim's email i wonder if it would be helpful to run this bigbluebutton sometime?
[22:38] <ScottL> don't know that if it would or wouldn't, just got me thinking
[22:38] <ScottL> holstein, as far as the menu fix, i've already got a package built for it this afternoon
[22:38] <ScottL> just sitting around being sick and bored so i did it
[22:39] <ScottL> if you still want to do it we can certainly do it so that you get the exposure
[22:39] <ScottL> just let me know
[22:39] <ScottL> holstein, don't forget we still have backporting coming up