[07:24] <didrocks> good morning
[07:37] <nhaines> didrocks: good morning!
[07:37] <didrocks> hey nhaines
[08:04] <oSoMoN> good morning
[08:05] <MacSlow> hey fols
[08:05] <MacSlow> folks
[08:18] <zniavre> good morning
[08:18] <zniavre> how to restart/reset unity-2d panels please ? (some indicators are missing)
[08:20] <lucazade> zniavre: killall unity-2d-panel
[08:20] <lucazade> and it will restart auto
[08:20] <zniavre> ok thank you it did the trick but indicators still missing
[08:22] <ion> Which ones?
[08:22] <zniavre> i guess sesssion/date/sound
[08:23] <ion> Ah, the fixed version of unity-2d hasn’t reached natty yet, it seems. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/724717
[08:24] <zniavre> in fact i got only network icon in "systray"
[08:24] <ion> The version in the unity-2d-team/unity-2d-daily PPA works.
[08:25] <zniavre> ha
[08:25] <zniavre> ok
[08:26] <lucazade> yes, only ppa version is fixed
[08:27] <zniavre> thank you i will try as soon as possible
[09:40] <zniavre_> thank you unity-2d is working quite well with ppa's
[11:34] <rodrigo_> error: cannot pass objects of non-POD type ‘struct std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >’ through ‘...’; call will abort at runtime
[11:41] <rodrigo_> error: cannot pass objects of non-POD type ‘struct std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> >’ through ‘...’; call will abort at runtime
[11:41] <rodrigo_> any idea why I get that with this:
[11:41] <rodrigo_>   g_variant_builder_add (&b, "(ssiiii)",
[11:41] <rodrigo_> 			 _proxy->GetName (),
[11:41] <rodrigo_> 			 proxy->GetId (),
[11:41] <rodrigo_> 			 geo.x,
[11:41] <rodrigo_> 			 geo.y,
[11:41] <rodrigo_> 			 geo.GetWidth (),
[11:41] <rodrigo_> 			 geo.GetHeight ());
[11:41] <rodrigo_> I've tried casting, but then it complains also
[11:42] <rodrigo_> ah, it's a std:string, I guess I need to convert that to a C string
[11:46] <aruiz> rodrigo_, the wonders of  C++ :-)
[11:54] <rodrigo_> aruiz, yeah, took a bit of time, but found it
[11:54] <rodrigo_> _proxy->GetName ()->c_str ()
[11:55] <aruiz> now hope for everything to go okay encoding wise
[11:55] <aruiz> :-)
[12:01] <rodrigo_> aruiz, hehe
[12:51] <rye> hi people, that's me again, with gtk.MenuItem in appindicators not playing well. What I noticed with Gimp is that sometimes menu does not get redrawn (e.g. when i close the toolkit window, menu seems to be stuck, since there is a new item in Windows->Recently closed one). And now I have noticed yet another fault
[12:51] <rye> when gtk item is hidden one cannot show it easily
[12:53] <rye> Here's the test script that shows how it fails: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575460/
[12:57] <didrocks> rye: you should poke tedg mainly for appindicator stuff, he's not there right now (US Texas time)
[12:57] <rye> didrocks, thanks!
[12:58] <mterry> Hello!  I recently discovered that unity intercepts F10 presses.  Why was that done at the unity level?  (gtk+ was already handling it, did you just want to get all toolkits at once?)
[13:09] <mterry> njpatel, didrocks: ^^
[13:09] <didrocks> mterry: I didn't implemented that, but yeah, it's a default key in compiz
[13:10] <didrocks> I don't really know the reason (it's done under atk hat IIRC)
[13:10] <didrocks> for me, alt should act like this
[13:10] <mterry> didrocks, it's causing bugs because it can be out-of-sync with GTK+ (for example, gnome-terminal allows you to turn off normal F10 processing, but that no longer works)
[13:11] <didrocks> mterry: agree, like bobyu override my F9 which I use for htop :)
[13:11] <mterry> hmm, I'll find who committed it and bug them
[13:12] <didrocks> mterry: pretty sure it's atk related IIRC, so rodrigo_ or api
[13:13] <didrocks> oh, it's neil!
[13:13] <mterry> neeeeeiiiiilll!
[13:13] <didrocks> mterry: rev 853.4.4
[13:14]  * didrocks leaves, I don't want to see this, it will become ugly with blood all over the place :)
[13:14] <mterry> :)
[13:15] <mterry> njpatel, anyway, when you're back, let's chat about F10 and the best way to deal with gnome-terminal
[13:45] <njpatel> mterry, all toolkits at once
[13:46] <njpatel> mterry, I didn't realise it screws with terminal, however you can change it if you want in ccsm
[13:46] <mterry> njpatel, sure...  so your recommendation is that we patch any apps that interact with the gtk key and have them also toggle the gconf unity key?
[13:47] <mterry> njpatel, what about the keyboard shortcuts dialog?
[13:47] <mterry> njpatel, which source should gnome-terminal prefer?  should we link against libunity to see if it's running before using the ccsm key?
[13:48] <njpatel> mterry, "interact with the gtk key" ?
[13:48] <mterry> njpatel, also, as I recall, gnome-terminal is able to change it just for its own app.  Couldn't do that with unity
[13:49] <mterry> njpatel, gnome-terminal turns off the accel for itself.  So now you are recommending that it also toggle the gconf key?
[13:49] <mterry> njpatel, maybe other apps look at/edit that accel too, but I haven't looked
[13:49] <njpatel> mterry, no, no way am I recommending that, I was speaking on a case-per-case basis
[13:50] <njpatel> mterry, I guess this needs to be solved outside of just terminal
[13:50] <njpatel> gconf key isn't good, you don't have any locking so if someone doesn't restore it your screwed
[13:50] <njpatel> maybe F10 is just wrong for this
[13:50] <mterry> njpatel, can you make the key handling run-last instead of run-first?
[13:51] <njpatel> maybe we should have a Alt+F10 to keep it out of normal application scope
[13:51] <njpatel> mterry, compiz is taking a grab so there's nothing I can do there
[13:51] <mterry> njpatel, alt-F10 is also used by gnome to toggle maximization state
[13:51] <mterry> njpatel, can you pass it to focused app though, and see if it handled it?
[13:52] <mterry> njpatel, do you know if there's a way for user to edit gtk's use of F10?  Because we'd likely need to patch that too so there isn't confusion.  Doesn't seem to be in Keyboard Shortcuts like I thought
[13:53] <njpatel> I'm not sure X allows that, and not sure if Compiz supports that if it does
[13:53] <mterry> njpatel, what other toolkits were bugging you?  just qt?  maybe you could just patch it
[13:53] <njpatel> mterry, no idea dude, tbh I didn't know it was a feature until somepone told me
[13:53] <njpatel> mterry, I was told F10 just didn't work at all with appmenu anymore, was that not the case?
[13:54] <mterry> njpatel, I patched gtk to make it work
[13:54] <njpatel> heh, when?
[13:54] <mterry> njpatel, I dunno, a while ago.  During natty
[13:54] <mterry> njpatel, but my way worked with gnome-terminal, because it was gtk-oriented.  So I was flummoxed for a while with this bug until I realized unity had been grabbing it too
[13:55] <njpatel> yeah, I was asked to make it system-wide for a11y
[13:55] <njpatel> mterry, Alt+F10 doesn't work in compiz anyway, so I'd suggest we move over to that as we still need a global shortcut to focus the panel
[13:55] <mterry> njpatel, sure, but does system-wide mean qt+gtk or does it mean everything else under the sun?  (motif?)
[13:55] <njpatel> mterry, everything
[13:56] <mterry> njpatel, right, but what else is there (real question)?
[13:56] <njpatel> mterry, this is because it needs to open "the first available menu"
[13:56] <njpatel> XUL, libreoffice, clutter apps, etc
[13:56] <mterry> oh right  :)  damn xul
[13:56] <njpatel> we need a key to open the first menu so you can get to the other system menus too
[13:57] <njpatel> let me just move to Alt+F10. Then if F10 works through the toolkit, sweet, but at least a11y-wise we can guarantee something
[13:58] <mterry> njpatel, ok.  Maybe we should patch Keyboard Shortcut dialog to hide that option, if it only works in metacity
[13:58] <mterry> the alt+f10 option
[13:58] <mterry> but that's a separate issue
[13:58] <njpatel> right
[14:00] <mterry> njpatel, thanks!  sorry for confusion about whether f10 was working in gtk or not
[14:01] <njpatel>  np dude, sorry I didn't realise the impact of the change
[14:01] <njpatel> mterry, if you want to propose a branch or file a bug and assign to me, then that would be sweet
[14:01] <mterry> njpatel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/726639
[14:02] <njpatel> sweet
[14:02] <kenvandine> aruiz, hey, did you notice that lo-menubar aren't displaying submenus for "New" and "Recent Documents"
[14:02] <kenvandine> aruiz, but i think it is for all the others
[14:02] <mterry> njpatel, though, that bug was about wanting the keys for midnight commander.  Maybe it uses alt+F10 too?  ;)
[14:03] <aruiz> kenvandine, working on it as we speak
[14:03] <njpatel> mterry, heh, updated and milestoned
[14:03] <aruiz> kenvandine, there is a regression in 3.3.1
[14:03] <kenvandine> aruiz, cool
[14:03] <aruiz> labels stopped being shown
[14:03] <aruiz> and submenus stopped being populated
[14:03] <aruiz> :/
[14:03] <aruiz> (some)
[14:03] <aruiz> I'm working with the LO guys on this
[14:04] <kenvandine> aruiz, also, when i open a document the menubar menus go away
[14:04] <kenvandine> but creating a new document gives me the menubar
[14:04] <aruiz> kenvandine, yeah, working on it too
[14:04] <kenvandine> ok
[14:05] <kenvandine> :)
[14:05] <aruiz> it all became hectic with that regression I'm afraid
[14:05] <kenvandine> no worries, just making sure it was being addressed
[14:05] <kenvandine> aruiz, ping me anytime you want me to update the package so users can get the goodies :)
[14:06] <aruiz> kenvandine, will do
[14:06] <aruiz> I'm in the middle of trying a few different things
[14:08] <kenvandine> klattimer, have you noticed that the color labels in datetime stop getting displayed over time?
[14:08] <rye> tedg, ping
[14:08] <klattimer> kenvandine: yep, https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/728956
[14:09] <kenvandine> cool
[14:10] <tedg> Howdy rye
[14:10] <rye> tedg, I am coming from bug #728503 where it looks like a regression in natty for libappindicator/dbusmenu, the same script modifies the menu in latest maverick properly, but it fails to do this in natty.
[14:10] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 728503 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "libappindicator stops updating the menu after gtk.MenuItem is added" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/728503
[14:10] <rye> tedg, hi :)
[14:11] <rye> tedg, one more thing is that I noticed that when I close the gimp and it adds new entry to the list of closed windows the main Fil menu is also stuck. I need to re-open the window and then File menu updates itself. May be a completely different one though
[14:11] <tedg> rye, Do you have libappindicator 0.2.97?  There was a bug in the Python bindings in earlier versions.
[14:11] <rye> tedg, 0.2.97-0ubuntu1
[14:12] <rye> tedg, yes, i also observed that bug, when python bindings were completely broken due to unresolved symbols
[14:12] <tedg> rye, Ah, okay.  That's better now :)
[14:13] <kenvandine> klattimer, that shouldn't be fix committed since it isn't merged into trunk yet
[14:14] <klattimer> oh sorry
[14:15]  * kenvandine changes
[14:34] <coz_> hey all
[14:49] <coz_>  hey guys
[15:08] <jcastro> njpatel: didrocks: lamalex: DBO: only 21 bitesizers in the pile. Need more to nom nom.
[15:08] <didrocks> jcastro: I added as much as possible recently if you didn't notice ;)
[15:09] <didrocks> not sure there are more with the current stack TBH
[15:09] <jcastro> I was kind of yelling at the DXers
[15:09] <jcastro> not platform. o/
[15:09] <jcastro> I try to start every morning making fun of DBO
[15:09] <didrocks> jcastro: who doesn't? :)
[15:10] <didrocks> more seriously, there are a lot of possible bitesize pending on design approval
[15:11] <jcastro> yeah
[15:11] <jcastro> nice work merging in olivier's branch
[15:11]  * jcastro goes off to get his pic and bio
[15:13] <didrocks> yeah, was a nice one from him, should have take time to see why the current implementation didn't work in every case :)
[15:30] <lamalex> jcastro, I tagged one yesterday
[15:30] <lamalex> :P if I see more today I'll tag em
[15:56] <lamalex> Has anyone seen API recently?
[15:56] <lamalex> didrocks1, ping
[15:56] <didrocks1> I didn't
[15:56] <lamalex> When you get time can we go over your maildrop script? If your'e busy now it can wait (I too have other things to work on :P)
[15:58] <didrocks> yeah, later please:)
[15:58] <lamalex> sure, I was just giving you a reminder
[16:00] <didrocks> no worry :)
[16:04] <tedg> klattimer, Do you know how to use the prerequisite branch feature in LP merge requests?  It seems like your week numbers one is after the color fix.
[16:04] <lamalex> seb128, for https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/727714 can I change your whole report to "places needs keyboard navigation?"
[16:04] <tedg> klattimer, I refilled it assuming so, we'll see if that cleans up the diff :)
[16:05] <seb128> lamalex, if you want
[16:06] <lamalex> I'm pretty sure once keynev is there, they will be activatable :P
[16:23] <klattimer> tedg: sorry, I don't know how to use it as yet, but I'm sure I'll figure it out now you've mentioned it
[16:24] <tedg> klattimer, No problem, it's under the advanced thingy at the bottom.
[16:25] <nhaines> Hmm, unity_support_test crashes every time I log in on this old computer over here.
[16:25] <nhaines> I might check my aperture window before I file a bug but I'm pretty sure it's not AGP.
[16:26] <jcastro> didrocks: got time to talk Places today? kamstrup's not around
[16:26] <om26er> mterry, Hi! it seems that empathy's 'Contact' menu items dont work with appmenu, and also after opening that menu for the first time it becomes blank the next time its opened
[16:26] <om26er> *sighs for empathy menus*
[16:27] <om26er> mterry_, Hi! it seems that empathy's 'Contact' menu items dont work with appmenu, and also after opening that menu for the first time it becomes blank the next time its opened
[16:28] <mterry_> om26er, guh, I fixed empathy a while ago.  something must have changed
[16:28] <didrocks> jcastro: depends on when exactly and what's the topic :)
[16:28] <om26er> mterry_, when you fixed last time, the menu appeared but menu items still didn't work ;) (no effect when clicked)
[16:29] <om26er> now they vanish after openeing
[16:29] <jcastro> didrocks: quickly support
[16:29] <jcastro> http://www.grillbar.org/wordpress/?p=544
[16:29] <jcastro> these are kamstrup's instructions
[16:29] <mterry_> om26er, i remember clicking them and them working, huh
[16:30] <didrocks> jcastro: yeah, I tried the python place :)
[16:30] <jcastro> didrocks: I am doing a blog about Places
[16:30] <jcastro> basically I need to know if we can do "or just fire up quickly and it all magically works!"
[16:31] <jcastro> or "we're working on making this magically work in quickly, so please help test now so we can get feedback"
[16:31] <didrocks> jcastro: no, someone as to do a template from this
[16:31] <didrocks> jcastro: yeah :)
[16:31] <jcastro> excellent
[16:31] <jcastro> and you need someone to do it or are you assigned to it?
[16:31] <didrocks> I'm not assigned, so if someone can do it, it will be better
[16:31] <didrocks> not like if I had a life already :p
[16:32] <jcastro> ok I will put out a call for a template then
[16:32] <jcastro> thanks that's all I needed!
[16:32] <om26er> mterry, also shotwell still have the issues with appmenu, I should report bugs ;0
[16:34] <mterry_> om26er, is this December again?  geeze
[16:34] <om26er> mterry_, hehe it pain. so should I file for dbusmenu or appmenu-gtk?
[16:35] <mterry_> om26er, probably dbusmenu, I can move if needed
[16:36] <didrocks> jcastro: nice!
[16:36] <didrocks> jcastro: btw, there is still this Dee file to copy
[16:36] <didrocks> (the override one)
[16:36] <jcastro> yeah it's in his instructions
[16:36] <didrocks> jcastro: will be (ugly) fixed on Monday
[16:37] <jcastro> this call is for stalwart pioneers who want something to do this weekend
[16:37] <didrocks> ok :)
[16:37] <didrocks> jcastro: it works great and it's fun (enjoying it there)
[16:38] <jcastro> heh
[16:39] <jcastro> oh cool, new mp from alejandro!
[16:39] <jcastro> maybe this one will get merged
[16:39] <lamalex> pinero?
[16:41] <om26er> unity becomes slow after the use of a few minutes, when its first started its really snappy then becomes slow. this is independent from the number of open applications since it becomes fast after crashing given there are a lot of apps already running
[16:42] <om26er> could that be a memory leak or some other leak ;)
[16:42] <jcastro> lamalex: ah yargh, I always confuse him with someone else
[16:42] <lamalex> ah
[16:44] <didrocks> om26er: hum… can be :/
[16:44] <didrocks> om26er: I don't experience that though
[16:45] <didrocks> om26er: can be a driver memleak as well, unfortunately
[16:45] <om26er> didrocks, only happens on my netbook, works fine on the PC
[16:46] <didrocks> om26er: can worth looking at the graphical card difference
[16:47] <om26er> one is 9800gtx+ the other is 945GM/GMS/GME so could be related to intel maybe
[16:48] <didrocks> maybe, will be useful to see which process is mem hungry if there is one
[16:48] <lamalex> DBO, I am seeing a bunch of "____ app won't run from launcher" bugs
[16:48] <didrocks> and see if that happens with plain compiz as well
[16:49] <lamalex> Can I assign these to you to look at, do you have a debugging process for this sort of thing?
[16:49] <DBO> lamalex, i blame the oompa loompa's
[16:49] <DBO> if an app wont run
[16:49] <DBO> all we do is take the .desktop file and tell gio to launch it
[16:49] <DBO> after that it's in gods hands
[16:49] <DBO> even if somehow we confirmed this bug
[16:49] <lamalex> do we get a return code if it launchers or not?
[16:49] <DBO> I wouldn't know what to do about it
[16:50] <lamalex> like a pid, or something, idk
[16:50] <DBO> beyond "yeah I forked a process"?
[16:50] <DBO> yeah we can see if a fork happened but I *really* doubt thats the case
[16:50] <lamalex> what does your code do if a fork doesn't happen?
[16:51] <DBO> fail silently like all self respecting launcher code :P
[16:51] <lamalex> DBO, you don't log an error?
[16:51] <lamalex> no g_error
[16:51] <lamalex> ?
[16:51] <lamalex> ok can I submit a patch that changes the launcher icon to a sad face?
[16:52] <didrocks> (g_error are for weaks, bamf doesn't have any error :))
[16:52] <lamalex> hahah
[16:52] <DBO> lemme check
[16:52] <lamalex> bamf doesn't do the launching though, right? so that's ok
[16:53] <DBO> lamalex, we do one better than not report the error
[16:53] <DBO> we also leak the memory
[16:53] <DBO> in three places
[16:53] <DBO> god we are good!
[16:53] <didrocks> that's the punishement to use evil apps :)
[16:54] <lamalex> haha
[16:54] <lamalex> you must pay for your actions
[16:54] <DBO> I already did
[16:54] <DBO> remember mutter?
[16:54] <DBO> remember clutter?
[16:54] <DBO> I seriously occasionally still have dreams about mutters window stacking methodology
[16:55] <DBO> I think its a very mild form of PTSD
[16:55] <lamalex> hah
[16:56] <kklimonda> DBO: mutter is really that bad? how are gnome folks dealing with it then?
[16:57] <DBO> kklimonda, mutter is that bad if you wish to insert a UI element into the stacking order
[16:57] <DBO> kklimonda, say the gnome folks wanted DND windows (like when you are dragging a file around) to be dropable on the panel
[16:57] <didrocks> DBO: Iremember the extensive discussion on that :)
[16:57] <DBO> in mutter, that would be an epic pain in the arse
[16:58] <kklimonda> so they just sidestep the problem by not doing dnd on panel? :)
[16:58] <DBO> right
[16:59] <DBO> or anywhere that is drawn by mutter
[16:59] <DBO> its actually quite a hilarious shortcoming of mutter
[16:59] <DBO> well not mutter
[16:59] <DBO> of GNOME Shell
[16:59] <kklimonda> they probably see it as an important feature.. ;)
[17:01] <DBO> kklimonda, they probably dont give a two shakes considering how little GNOME Shell seems to care about working with non-GNOME apps
[17:11] <kklimonda> DBO: quite frankly I find it disturbing :/
[17:11] <DBO> kklimonda, telling it like it is
[17:12] <nmarques> didrocks, hey... fixed the stuff yesterday and it's kinda work, the only problem now is that compiz crashes if unityshell is enabled, that aside everything seems to be working
[17:12] <DBO> kklimonda, I found myself having occasional conversations with GNOME folks, and frequently when you bring up non GNOME apps the reaction you get is akin to "what about them?"
[17:47] <lamalex> didrocks1, how does unity --distro work?
[17:47] <lamalex> or rather how do I use it
[17:48] <lamalex> seb128, I am not seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/727824 with trunk. want to test if it's been fixed already
[17:48] <didrocks1> lamalex: it's pretty silly, it removes well-known install directories (I have to add nux)
[17:48] <didrocks1> lamalex: so, it's basically sudo unity --distro
[17:48] <lamalex> hah ah
[17:48] <didrocks1> then, you can launch unity
[17:48] <didrocks1> yeah, I was tired to remove those by hand :)
[17:48] <didrocks1> hence the "unity" wrapper just being a dev tool
[17:48] <lamalex> :P
[17:48] <lamalex> ok
[17:49] <didrocks1> not end user once compiz can respawn when dying anyway :)
[17:52] <lamalex> didrocks1, doesn't remove h/usr/local/lib/compiz/libunityshell.so
[17:53] <lamalex> ugh
[17:53] <kklimonda> hey, why doesn't notify-osd merge messages from the same user again?
[17:53] <lamalex> kklimonda, I filed a bug on that the other day
[17:54] <kklimonda> it was supposed to be a killer feature, and I'm actually surprised when it works ;)
[17:54] <lamalex> I think
[17:54] <didrocks1> lamalex: hum, seems you are using tweaked option then
[17:54] <didrocks1> lamalex: should be installed by default in your home dir
[17:54] <didrocks1> (with just cmake ..)
[17:54] <lamalex> yah I think that was from a long time ago
[17:54] <lamalex> glad it's gone now
[17:56] <didrocks1> gone and dead :)
[17:58] <lamalex> jcastro, got another one for your list :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/727840
[18:02] <jcastro> nice
[18:02] <jcastro> DBO: remember between 2 and 3 is Q+A in here if people ask questions
[18:05] <om26er> is there going to be a new build of overly-scrollbar in the ppa?
[18:05] <didrocks> om26er: new release on monday
[18:08] <om26er> is there going to be a new build of overly-scrollbar in the ppa?
[18:11] <didrocks> om26er: new release on monday
[18:11] <didrocks> om26er: you can cherry-pick and build as you do for unity, I'm using the same packaging method :)
[18:12] <om26er> didrocks, yes Sir!
[18:36] <DBO> jcastro, crap...
[18:36] <DBO> hold on
[18:36] <jcastro> it's ok it's not like a formal class
[18:36] <DBO> jcastro, I got a conflict today
[18:36] <jcastro> just basically pay more attention to the channel for an hour
[18:37] <DBO> noice
[18:37] <jcastro> DBO: ok lamalex covered for you last time, maybe he can hang out again
[18:37] <DBO> lamalex, cover for me again? I swear my schedule conspires
[18:37] <lamalex> I did what?
[18:38] <lamalex> I would never cover for you
[18:38] <DBO> thanks :)
[18:38] <DBO> you're the best
[18:38] <lamalex> I'd rat you out first chance
[18:38] <lamalex> honestly sometimes I email oubiwann with made up shit you did
[18:38] <DBO> that explains everything
[18:38] <DBO> argh its almost 2 and I haven't eaten yet
[18:39] <DBO> back after lunch and meeting
[18:54] <oubiwann> heheh
[18:56]  * kenvandine wonders why tedg is never around when i want to yell at him
[18:56] <aruiz> kenvandine, suspicious
[18:56] <aruiz> :-)
[18:56] <kenvandine> :-D
[18:57] <aruiz> kenvandine, you can yell at me as an outlet
[18:57] <kenvandine> he broke dbusmenu in commit     revno: 249.2.2, but i am not sure why it breaks :)
[18:57] <aruiz> kenvandine, dear dear
[19:01] <Daekdroom> Is anyone else having problem with minimized windows still having mouse focus?
[19:54] <cjohnston> jderose: ping
[20:03] <Apselyguy> need to ask someone about unity ubuntu ?
[20:04] <Apselyguy> can you download this OS and have it upgade my Ubuntu studio ?
[20:56] <lamalex> Hey someone with autohide, can you please help me understand what's going on in https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/728598
[21:08] <christip> lamalex, that's quite odd, I try to explain it to you. You drag & drop a file to the launcher trash icon. The behaviour of the launcher is perfect until you hit the most left pixel of your screen with your pointer. Then the launcher will auto-hide.
[21:09] <christip> It doesn't matter where you hit the left-most pixel of your screen. Just drag a file to the left-most position and the launcher will hide.
[21:15] <lamalex> oh really? ok
[21:15] <lamalex> thanks
[21:19] <kenvandine> tedg, your back!
[21:20] <kenvandine> tedg, r249.2.2 in dbusmenu is what broke indicator-me status menus
[21:20] <kenvandine> tedg, but i don't see why
[21:20] <kenvandine> tedg, just like you thought, the remove stuff
[21:21] <tedg> kenvandine, Sweet!  I'll look into it.
[21:21] <tedg> kenvandine, Thanks for breaking that down.
[21:21] <tedg> kenvandine, Which branch are you getting that rev number from?
[21:21] <lamalex> hey jono_ http://enemieslist.net/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=4
[21:22] <lamalex> play a show with them
[21:22] <lamalex> or put out a split or something
[21:23] <kenvandine> trunk
[21:23] <kenvandine> bzr log -n2
[21:23] <kenvandine> i think... now i am not so sure
[21:23] <kenvandine> one sec
[21:25] <kenvandine> yeah, trunk
[21:25] <kenvandine> merged in at 251
[21:26] <kenvandine> which has some other things too
[21:26] <kenvandine> but reversing that specific commit fixes it
[22:32] <lamalex> DBO, is this bitesize do you think? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/727702
[22:34] <lamalex> i dont know how much of the launcher relies on .desktop files