[00:00] What about Quassel, is it any good? [00:00] I tried Quassel once and gave up :P [00:00] i miss mirc lol [00:00] quassel is probly ok , but it's fugly to my eyes [00:00] im gonna go buy a copy of windows 7 brb [00:00] mIRC is pretty much the standard setter for Windoze. [00:01] :) [00:01] ok time to go ...tvtime begins now [00:01] :) [00:03] alright niggers thanks for the help... im gonna go kill myself now [00:03] please do so quietly === switch is now known as [switch] === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === Freejack is now known as Guest33491 [00:31] ... [00:31] Torch: ^^ [00:31] there's a lot to complain about when it comes to linux and KDE. lack of high-quality irc clients isn't on the list, though. [01:55] greetings, i just installed kubuntu-desktop on lucid server 32bit, i wonder why i can't change network profile on knetworkmanager (yes i can edit and add, but can't switch network profile like it should be) [01:58] i use kubuntu backport ppa so its kde 4.5.3, any lead to solve this problem would be appreciated, still running around google without working results.. [02:38] hey everybody. having problems connecting to wireless with knetworkmanager === ikankecil is now known as EcchiRanger [03:47] hello [04:26] hi [07:14] aureas: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme [07:22] UBuxuBU: Eh? [07:22] i thought i was in another channel [07:23] That might explain a few things [07:28] Can anyone point me to the udev rules for the avr microcontroller usb programmer? I have 10.10. [07:34] Hi all. Can I install kubuntu 10.10 over opensuse 11.3 without destroying /home? === KRF_ is now known as KRF [08:44] hey, does anyone know of a fix for the breakage of google earth on ubuntu? [08:49] drbobb: i also have this problem before. but already remove [08:51] nata_: what do you mean? [08:52] dont know how to fix :) [08:52] aah removed google earth [08:52] well it annoys me to boot windows every time I want to use google earth [09:00] drbobb: use google earth in web browser :) [09:00] may b you can ask other or google search see other people have this problem [09:05] drbobb: or marble [09:11] what a brilliant idea. why would anyone want to come to irc & ask questions anymore, now that we have google search - rite? [09:14] For interactive discussion with some base knowledge acquired from browsing the forums and web. [09:15] ok so let me just say that I found make-googleearth-package, but it produces a package that doesn't work correctly [09:15] To to dicsuss on why things are done the way they are and how things could or perhaps even should be done with people who are actually responsible for doing something about them. [09:16] (however, the topic of this channel does not say it's a dev channel - it says Official Kubuntu support) [09:19] "package that does not work correctly" does not mean much. You'd need to specify many things before it is even meaningful. What exactly is your system? 10.4, 10.10, 10.10 with ppa KDE 4.6... 32 64 bit? Where did you get that package and what did you do to try to use it? What system is that package meant? Are your dependancies in order? Have you read the instructions? Given package name, can you use CLI? Do you even understant these questions? [09:21] I am more than willing to answer all such questions in case anyone is inetersted [09:21] interested [09:21] 10.10 with ppa kde6 [09:21] 64 bit [09:22] make-googleearth-package from the repo generates a googleearth deb which can be installed [09:22] the google-earth program even launches [09:22] but all menus and such display as gibberish [09:23] what does the package deps? [09:23] s/kde6/kde4.6 [09:23] what are the package deps [09:24] Depends: ttf-dejavu | ttf-bitstream-vera | msttcorefonts, ia32-libs (>= 20080808), lib32gcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), lib32stdc++6 (>= 4.1.1), lib32z1 (>= 1:1.1.4), libc6-i386 (>= 2.0), libc6-i386 (>= 2.1.3), libc6-i386 (>= 2.2), libc6-i386 (>= 2.3), libc6-i386 (>= 2.3.2), libc6-i386 (>= 2.4), nvidia-current , lib32nss-mdns [09:25] the dependencies are fulfilled, I did not force install === gorgonizer__ is now known as gorgonizer [09:29] And they are in order? Have you checked manually? [09:32] the libc6-i386 is kind of weird, why does it declare several versions like that [09:32] anyway, mine is 2.12.1-0ubuntu10.2 [09:33] Did you have a 64 bit system? [09:34] yes, see above [09:34] Sorry, I got disconnected :/ [09:34] Lost some of the backlog [09:35] well yeah and it's up to date [09:36] oh I see google has pre-made debs now, that must be recent [09:36] I'll give that a try instead of the package maker [09:37] i recently checked the sizeof(void*) why is this size 12? shouldnt it be 8 on a 64 bit machine? [09:37] Do you have radeon driver? [09:38] nvidia if you mean me [09:39] planrich, drbobb actually :) [09:39] OutoLumo: no, my card is nvidia [09:40] ok, the package made by google has the same text rendering issue [09:40] no visible difference [09:40] drbobb, I take that it is the version 6? [09:41] of g-earth? yes [09:42] Ok, if the same problem is in the precompiled version then it's probably on in the package... [09:43] I haven't seen anyone reporting it though, which is rather strange [09:43] hi, how do i set /var/mail to the correct permissions ? it is listed as drwxrwsrwx 2 root root 4096 2011-03-04 09:18 mail [09:46] drbobb, have you installed lsb-core? [09:46] yes [09:47] steelhead, what are the correct permissions?-) set them with a commands "sudo chown correct-owner.correct-group /var/mail ;sudo chmod ??? /var/mail" Recurse for subdirs if need be. [09:48] replace ??? for the permissions as well. [09:48] drbobb, ok, I'm out of ideas :-| [09:50] I believe the correct settings depend a bit on your mail server setup. [09:51] OutoLumo: its still drwxrwsrwx 2 root root 4096 2011-03-04 09:18 mail, i dont know if thats correct.. [09:51] steelhead: mine look like drwxrwsr-x, which seems to make sense [09:51] owner root, group mail [09:51] aha, i will try to change it to that [09:52] its now drwxrwsrwx 2 root mail 4096 2011-03-04 09:18 mail [09:53] permissions would be 775. Thogh I don't understand why that directory should be world readable... [09:53] so i need to chmod it to 775 ? [09:54] to set it to drwxrwsr-x, yes [09:55] If that is a wise setting, that I don't know. I don't use that directory in my kubuntu-desktop. [09:55] OutoLumo: its now drwxr-sr-x 2 root mail 4096 2011-03-04 09:18 mail ; thanks [09:56] steelhead, that should be wrong. You want it to be group writable. Try 770 instead. [09:56] ok [09:57] Or rather: you want mail programs be able to place something in there, not just read it. [09:57] OutoLumo: for the sake of programs that want to report whether you have new mail [09:57] yes [09:57] BUT if you want some other processes to be able to access and read it (which might be) you should set it to 775 [09:58] drbobb, they should be added to group mail... [09:58] the shell is one of them [09:58] its now set as drwxrwsr-x 2 root mail 4096 2011-03-04 09:18 mail [09:59] drbobb, why would you want the user shell the be able to access to the mail folder? [09:59] but you are right that in a typical desktop setup /var/mail isn't even used [10:00] its a NAS :P so, /var/mail is used [10:00] OutoLumo: it's not me, but I guess someone once came up with the idea that the shell should have an option to report the arrival of new mail [10:00] drbobb, and where it is needed users should - or shell - have no business there. Let them make mail queries through IMAP. [10:00] OutoLumo: yeah I guess it's a holdover from old time [10:00] s [10:01] http://isprins.blogspot.com/2011/03/excitos-b3-and-tor.html [10:01] its now set as drwxrwsr-x 2 root mail 4096 2011-03-04 09:18 mail, is that correct ? [10:01] drbobb, no point there. You can write a script belonging to the mail group and tell that to report to the shell. That's the unix way :) [10:02] steelhead, for desktop purposes, I guess so. Why do you need that directory? [10:02] how do you remove mythtv completely? sudo apt-get remove --purge mythtv has NO effect; it says not installed but i can start mythtv anyway [10:02] OutoLumo: I think this comes from pre-IMAP times [10:03] r41 try running "sudo updatedb" and "locate mythtv|grep bin" [10:03] OutoLumo: because fail2ban reports banned ip's to user@local [10:03] believe it or not there was a time when IMAP was experimental and regarded with suspicion [10:04] OutoLumo: fail2ban monitors logfiles, and bans ip adresses for a set time if it detects brute force attacks [10:04] drbobb, oh, I think I remember the time IMAP became accepted... Anyway, such legacy features should now be disregarded as security threats. [10:05] OutoLumo output is /usr/bin/mythtv-setup [10:05] /usr/bin/mythtv-setup.real [10:05] /usr/bin/mythtvosd [10:05] r41, so it has not purged it. Try re-installing the package and purging it again. [10:06] OutoLumo: /var/mail is only useful nowadays on servers, as a place where legacy daemons can report their diagnostics [10:06] and where no non-admin users are allowed to login anyway [10:07] OutoLumo did already... ah found the mistake, had to do sudo apt-get remove --purge myth* with wildcard [10:07] steelhead, consider installing dovecot or something. [10:07] r41 :) [10:08] ok gotta run and earn some bread. Thanx for trying [10:08] bye [10:08] r41, I usually use aptitude, it makes tracking dependencies easier :) [10:09] OutoLumo avoid guis whereever possible ;-) [10:09] OutoLumo ok there is a command line aptitude, well... [10:09] OutoLumo: thats installed, and horde [10:09] OutoLumo bad habits [10:11] steelhead, and configured as well? (You shouldn't need horde if you use kmail or something) [10:12] OutoLumo: yes. [10:12] So you can read the local root's mails from kmail? [10:16] r41, both CLI and curses based aptitude in fact... [10:54] strange problem with kaffeine: finds the first couples of dvb-t channels, then signal goes to 100% SNR 0% and no more channels are found [10:54] same with dvb-utils scan, seems to be a driver/firmware thing [11:12] hi. when I execute this: timidity fluid.mid -----> I obtain this: Couldn't load instrument aaviolin.sf2 (tone bank 0, program 73) . The instrument and path are correct (if I use a wrong sf2 or path I obtain: "No such file or directory". What can I do ? [12:38] hi all, i have a problem with kopete: starting it takes ages, on command line i get following error: kopete(9806): Communication problem with "kopete" , it probably crashed. Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" any ideas? === gilang is now known as Guest94252 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:35] Hey all [13:35] I'm new to Linux! [13:35] First impressions of ubuntu: WOW! [13:35] welcome to linux :) [13:35] Thank you <3 [13:36] using kde or gnome? [13:36] I'm not sure! XD [13:36] blue or purple wallpaper? ;) [13:36] I think I've seen the word "gnome" multiple times in menus though. [13:36] I'm using a virtual machine on win 7. [13:37] if you have a K as start button in the lower left corner it is kde, otherwise gnome :D [13:37] oh [13:37] well, I changed the theme already XD [13:38] I hope it's okay if I haunt you guys with newb-questions :-! [13:40] I'm trying to install "Chromium" and it says "waiting for apt-get to exit". (I tried to install something later but it failed). [13:42] hiyas all [13:52] Hi! I have a quick question :-). I've created a runnable jar-file with eclipse and I'm able to run it from a terminal (./filename.jar). However, when I try to run it by clicking on it in dolphin it simply opens in ark, so my question is how do I change this behavior so that the runnable file is executed instead of opening with an application? === tarun is now known as Guest68165 [13:55] matsv, copy the executable file to /usr/bin/ [13:57] ok, will I need to copy all the other files as well (sprites and images)? [13:57] matsv, as root of course [13:57] ok [13:59] matsv, there's probly a readme file in the folder that was created when you installed it , you might find some info on where to put thefiles you mentioned [14:00] hmm, it still opens in ark when I click it, I've made the file myself, I'm simply looking for a way to run it without starting a terminal [14:02] dit the install create a folder in tour /home/username dir? [14:03] tour=your [14:04] The file is compiled and works and has the correct permissions, it is situated in a subfolder in my home-dir [14:05] look for a readme text file in that folder [14:05] there is none [14:05] no textfiles at all? [14:05] The problem is not with the install or the program itself, It is that kubuntu insists that my executable file is opened with another application [14:06] nope [14:09] is there an executable file in the folder , if so right click on it and make the open with dialog isn't checked to open with some other app [14:10] err make sure the "open with" dialog ...etc [14:11] the open with dialog is there, and it is set to ark [14:11] but I can't seem to remove ark from the list or uncheck it [14:12] I mean the excutable file , the file that opens the app if you cleck on it, not the jarfile [14:13] the jar-file is the executable file [14:15] it is the only file in the folder except for the sprites/images [14:15] the executable file won't have an extension. it will be "whateverthenameis" .probly look like a gear type icon [14:16] Yep, however, an executable java file has a .jar extension and that is the executable file I'm trying to run :-) [14:17] ok, then I need a lesson on jar files , because the app hasn't installed itself from whay I can tell [14:18] it'sjust a java app right ? it should run with browser or ? [14:18] nope, it's a standalone java-application, not an applet for browsers [14:19] it runs just fine if I start it from a terminal [14:20] matsv, run java -jar foo.jar in the terminal subbing the name of the file for foo [14:21] then it runs fine, but I want to be able to run it from dolphin without having to go through a terminal [14:21] didyou run it with java -jar command? [14:22] yep, in the terminal, and it works from there, but I'd like to be able to simply click it in the file manager and have it start [14:23] it might now [14:23] matsv: you can control how dolphin opens a file from System Settings > File Associations [14:23] ok, but it won't accept "java -jar" as an application [14:23] (that's on the advanced tab if you're on 10.04) [14:24] ok [14:26] thanks for the help everyone, but it simply won't work, I'll just have to run it via the terminal I guess [14:26] Have a nice day! [14:27] matsv: you can try `java -jar %U` [14:27] matsv,t5he guys at #ubuntu are very knowledgeable about java , I suggest you join and ask there , but one suggestion was : you can create a launcher in alacarte to run it [14:28] dunno what the kde equivalent is [14:28] to alacarte [14:29] plasma panel widgets maybe [14:32] hmm too bad , some ppl just don't have the time or patience to find a solution [14:34] indeed, and making file associations like that shouldn't be much of a problem [14:42] actionparsnip, suggested the above solution about alacarte, but that a gnome menu editor , so the kmenu editor might do it then he could add it to the panel [14:55] Hello World! , I'm back! ubuntu got **cked up on my virtual machine so I installed ubuntu on my 80 gig drive. [14:56] One question; I have 2 monitors setup now, but all panels\bars are stuck on my secondary monitor. how do I move the mover to my main monitor? === mren|off is now known as mren === Lord_Drachenblut is now known as 15SAACX9E === 15SAACX9E is now known as Lord_drachenblut === david__ is now known as davlefou === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer === v1 is now known as Guest68718 === ralsina_ is now known as ralsina_lunch === tchangang is now known as tta === IdleOne_ is now known as IdleOne === kozz_ is now known as kozz [16:27] hi [16:27] where are the program files? [16:27] so when asked, I know where to look for ktorrent === Ep5iloN_ is now known as 15SAACVS4 === Mamarok- is now known as Mamarok === mkv is now known as m4v [16:34] westmi49319: Most will be in /usr/bin. But you can always find out for sure by issuing the "which" command. For instance, "which ktorrent" returns /usr/bin/ktorrent. [16:34] ah [16:34] thanks [16:35] gunna write that down [16:36] westmi49319: and if you'd like to find a non-program file, the "locate" command will do that. You have to run "sudo updatedb" first, to create the searchable database for "locate", though. === JonathanS is now known as JonathanD [16:37] westmi49319: And if you'd like to find any file based on any criterion (eg. last access time), the "find" command is your friend. At first, "find" is somewhat intimidating, as it is so powerful. [16:38] yeah, a lot of different options [16:38] "find" is one of the most powerful Unix commands. [16:42] how to eneble ssh connection to remote host on port 22? [16:43] I have this message: ssh: connect to host junior-ubuntu port 22: Connection refused === Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr [16:49] privmsg hacked :\001clientinfo [16:49] what [16:49] liquid_: probably sshd is running on a different port [16:50] liquid_: you can specify a port with ssh user@host -p PORT [16:50] privmsg hacked :\001clientinfo \001 [16:50] народ, русскоговорящие есть? [16:50] !ru [16:50] Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [16:52] shadeslayer: how to determine on which port sshd is running? === Y0Y0 is now known as yoyo [16:52] liquid_: usually it runs on 22 [16:52] liquid_: do you have any other means of accessing it? [16:54] shadeslayer: i think it should be running on 22 because i did not change anything [16:55] liquid_: did you forward the ports? [16:55] could you tell me what's the exact setup ... the exact route and all the hardware that's between the remote and the host === Freejack is now known as Guest96174 [16:57] shadeslayer: well, i do it the first time; could you tell me what to do to connect 2 pcs by ssh? [16:58] liquid_: are they on a local wireless network ? [16:58] shadeslayer: yes [16:58] hmm [16:58] liquid_: ok what's the ip of any one of the computers [16:59] shadeslayer: sorry, wired [16:59] shadeslayer: but local indeed [16:59] yeah same thing :) [16:59] i know :) [17:01] liquid_: you need to login into your router :) [17:01] and forward the ports [17:01] or wait [17:01] liquid_: run : ssh -vv user@remote and pastebin the output [17:02] shadeslayer: Huh? [17:02] Daskreech: yeah it's a local network, no forwarding needed [17:02] shadeslayer: is forwarding on router required? [17:02] nope [17:02] What's liquid_ trying to do? [17:02] shadeslayer: I don't go out the local network [17:03] liquid_: yeah, that's why there's no requirement of forwarding ports [17:03] then you can just type ssh user@ipaddress [17:03] Daskreech: yes, but for some reason it's not connecting [17:04] do i need to do something in iptables? [17:05] hmm .. i didn't have anything [17:05] s/didn't/don't [17:05] liquid_: which machine has the ssh server running? [17:06] liquid_: if you are sitting at it you should be able to type ssh localhost and get a prompt asking you if you would like to add the foreign key [17:07] do i need openssh*? [17:08] liquid_: you need openssh-server [17:08] shadeslayer: ok, sorry, i'll install it [17:08] be back in few whiles [17:09] :) === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [17:11] I normally just apt-get install ssh [17:12] it will install the client and the server (for some reason) === ralsina_lunch is now known as ralsina === tchangang is now known as tta [17:16] Daskreech: probably a meta package [17:17] This metapackage is a convenient way to install both the OpenSSH client and the OpenSSH server [17:17] Yep [17:17] shadeslayer: yes it is but I'm just questioning how many people mean that they want a server when they say they want ssh [17:17] ah :D [17:18] well ... unless you start forwarding ports on your router, you're not in any immediate danger [17:18] yep barly a minute to download and install [17:19] cli [17:19] I mean I use it all the time since it's nice and conveinent just thought that it was a strange setup. made me a lot more wary of what's installing when I say install [17:19] westmi49319: Hi. are you liquid_? [17:20] ? [17:20] no... [17:21] shadeslayer: i think it works [17:21] shadeslayer: in fact, i'm trying to run both machines under pvm [17:22] pvm? [17:22] shadeslayer: parallel virtual machine [17:23] ah === Authority_ is now known as Authority === MuzerAway is now known as Muzer === ralsina is now known as ralsina_at_the_b === mig is now known as Guest31889 === meo[\ukJ is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest9042 [17:52] hola [17:57] !es | viriato09 [17:57] viriato09: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. === tchangang is now known as tta === johan is now known as Guest21713 === ralsina_at_the_b is now known as ralsina [18:33] i have installed kubuntu on a eeepc 901 and now i get the netbook version of kubuntu, how could i configure to have the normal configuration just like the live cd === marass is now known as mcas [18:40] proshot: it's somewhere in System Settings, I thought desktop environment but I can't check it right now === Guest9042 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest75191 === jeanpierre is now known as jipi === jipi is now known as jipiiiiiiiiiii === jipiiiiiiiiiii is now known as jipiiii [19:06] anyone else got flickering flash video? === Heliwr_ is now known as Heliwr [19:21] anyone else got flickering flash video? === Daviey- is now known as Daviey [19:38] cjae: works perfectly here [19:38] albeit it makes everything insanely hot [19:38] hmmm [19:40] the window that encases the video is also probing through other windows, btw are you multitabbing in FF? === WindPower_ is now known as WindPower [19:44] shadeslayer: ati? === Guest75191 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest50669 [20:08] hello [20:09] m0t0: hi m0t0 [20:10] hi, be back soon someone call for me .. [20:10] xD === rdieter_away is now known as rdieter_work [20:14] hi again, sorry for a short chat, have to go [20:18] Would this be right channel for Akregator? -- I would like to use a shellscript as a source of an RSS feed, since some site has no feed and I hacked it myself. Is it possible to use a script as a RSS source? [20:22] vanguard: if it outputs proper feed, why not [20:22] vanguard: as long as it's accessible in similar manner than any feed [20:22] Tm_T: I tried to use file///home/.../rss.sh, but it told me that it does not work that way [20:22] maybe I write it in PHP and put it on my web server, then it should be fine [20:23] that would work, yes [20:23] other question: can I use a test statement to alter my promt? I would love to see whether I am in a git repo in the promt [20:23] if a dir .git exists, or in the parent directory, then show "git" in red letters before the $ // or use a different promt [20:24] is that possible? [20:24] vanguard: I'd assume yes, but cannot say exactly how [20:30] it appears to be \$(code) ... pretty logically if I think about it [20:30] source: http://www.systhread.net/texts/200706bashprompt.php# [20:37] yeah, it works. PS1="..." must be in double quotes, and then use \$(). I am going to write a git detect script now. Linux is fckng awesome :-) [20:46] !ohmy > vanguard [20:46] vanguard, please see my private message === Guest50669 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest96386 === Lyrithya is now known as Guest30100 === Guest30100 is now known as Lyrithya === mauricio is now known as Ubuntux === giorgos is now known as scare [22:07] anyone able to tell me how to add a script to the launcher pane in plasma-netbook? I am fed up with always writing the whole string into the search box [22:09] scan: What? [22:09] what are you typing? [22:10] i have my own installations of some programs, I.e. eclipse [22:10] and I have to type "~/eclipse/eclipse" in the search box to get a run icon [22:11] whenever I try to move it to the launcher bar, it just disappears === Guest96386 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest15666 === tchangang is now known as old [22:51] /part === Guest15666 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest39209 === tchangang is now known as tta === Muzer is now known as MuzerAway === kadir is now known as okran