[00:25] <xyclo> Hi
[00:26] <xyclo> I am having a really hard time with ATI driver
[00:26] <xyclo> I have a Lenovo T400 and cannot install the driver
[00:26] <duanedesign> hello xyclo
[00:27] <xyclo> hi duanedesign
[00:28] <duanedesign> xyclo: can you runn this command in a terminal so we can see your graphics card and chipset:   lspci -nn | grep VGA
[00:28] <xyclo> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series [1002:95c4]
[00:29] <xyclo> I'm using 10.04
[00:29] <xyclo> rt kernel
[00:30] <duanedesign> xyclo: let me see which driver that is
[00:32] <xyclo> 32bit
[00:33] <duanedesign> ok looks like you can use the fglrx with that carsd
[00:33] <xyclo> yes
[00:33] <duanedesign> card*
[00:33] <xyclo> but it does not work
[00:34] <xyclo> fglrx-amdcccle gives trouble
[00:34] <duanedesign> did it show up under System->Administration->Additional Drivers
[00:34] <xyclo> yes
[00:34] <xyclo> but it gives an error
[00:34] <duanedesign> ok
[00:36] <xyclo> thanks duanedesign
[00:39] <duanedesign> xyclo: where do you see the error? While trying to install the driver?
[00:40] <xyclo> While trying to Activate it on System->Administration->Additional Drivers
[00:40] <duanedesign> does it say why it can not install that package?
[00:41] <xyclo> Both fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle are installed
[00:42] <duanedesign> xyclo: ahh i see, while activating, not install ing :)
[00:42] <xyclo> yep
[00:42] <xyclo> If I try to reinstall them, it gives an error as well
[00:46] <duanedesign> xyclo: what is the error you get when you run:  sudo apt-get --reinstall install  fglrx
[00:47] <xyclo> sudo apt-get --reinstall install  fglrx
[00:47] <xyclo> Sorry
[00:47] <xyclo> Error! Application of patch rt_preempt_33.patch failed.
[00:47] <xyclo> so, rt- kernel?
[00:48] <xyclo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[00:48] <xyclo>  fglrx
[00:48] <xyclo>  fglrx-amdcccle
[00:48] <xyclo> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[00:49] <duanedesign> xyclo: ok, let me see..
[00:50] <xyclo> thanks again, duanedesign
[00:55] <duanedesign> xyclo: ok, which kernel are you using:   uname -a
[01:00] <ubuntu23123> hello!
[01:00] <ubuntu23123> I need help restoring grub 2
[01:00] <ubuntu23123> I'm getting some funky errors.
[01:01] <ubuntu23123> I'm on a live CD right now, but I installed win7 to a NEW hdd and now my grub2 is gone.
[01:01] <ubuntu23123> Can someone help me?
[01:06] <duanedesign> hello ubuntu23123
[01:06] <ubuntu23123> hey
[01:06] <ubuntu23123> i just installed grub2 its taking me through a menu inside the terminal
[01:08] <duanedesign> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[01:08] <duanedesign> there are  instructions for reinstalling Grub2 from liveCD^
[01:11] <ubuntu23123> grub failed to install
[01:13] <xyclo> Linux alfonso-lenovo 2.6.33-29-realtime #1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Aug 4 20:14:20 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:13] <xyclo> Sorry, duanedesign, I had to step out for a while
[01:14] <ubuntu23123> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[01:14] <ubuntu23123> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[01:14] <ubuntu23123> The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
[01:14] <ubuntu23123> could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[01:15] <duanedesign> xyclo: ok
[01:15] <ubuntu23123> error: http://pastebin.com/jM78hTuM
[01:15] <duanedesign> xyclo: i would try the newest driver from ati website.  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English
[01:16] <xyclo> Great
[01:16] <xyclo> it was my next step. In fact, I already downloaded it
[01:16] <xyclo> Thanks again^2, duanedesign
[01:17] <xyclo> If I succeed I'll come back to report...
[01:18] <duanedesign> xyclo: i have instructions
[01:18] <duanedesign> to install the driver
[01:19] <duanedesign> xyclo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Install%20the%20fglrx%20Driver%20from%20AMD/ATI%20Catalyst%2011.2%20For%20Ubuntu%2010.10%20Maverick
[01:19] <duanedesign> its for a newer version of Ubuntu but that is ok
[01:19] <duanedesign> you will just change this command to suit:  sudo sh ati-driver-installer-11-2-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/maverick
[01:20] <duanedesign> as in, change file name and Maverick
[01:21] <duanedesign> ubuntu23123: looks like in the mount command you are trying to mount the windows partition
[01:21] <ubuntu23123> yes
[01:21] <ubuntu23123> is that not right?
[01:23] <duanedesign> sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[01:23] <duanedesign> you mount the Ubuntu partition
[01:25] <xyclo> Great, thx duanedesign
[01:28] <duanedesign> xyclo: there is a ppa you might try first if you have not started already
[02:18] <xyclo> I am back, duanedesign
[02:18] <xyclo> ppa?
[02:22] <duanedesign> xyclo: hello
[02:23] <duanedesign> xyclo: i  noticed there is a ppa that has a newer version of the driver available
[02:23] <duanedesign> xyclo: not as new as the one on the ATI website
[02:23] <duanedesign> but it is a lot easier to install
[02:24] <xyclo> great.
[02:24] <xyclo> I can try that first
[02:26] <duanedesign> ok the commands are
[02:26] <duanedesign> CensoredBiscuit: glad it went well and I wish you a very speedy recovery
[02:26] <duanedesign> nop
[02:27] <duanedesign> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[02:27] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flgrx-installer
[02:28] <duanedesign> sorry, cat jumped over the keyboard. Its the last two lines starting with sudo.
[02:30] <duanedesign> bug 159941
[02:30] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 159941 in fglrx-installer "fglrx driver does not work in RT kernel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159941
[02:30] <duanedesign> xyclo: FWIW that is the bug you are affected by ^
[02:31] <xyclo> aha!
[02:31] <xyclo> It is what I thought
[02:31] <xyclo> It feels good to see it officially identified as a bug.
[02:32] <xyclo> :)
[02:33] <duanedesign> from what I have read the driver was patched, but packaged wrong i think, anyway it is fixed you just need the driver new enough to have the patch (done correctly)
[02:34] <duanedesign> so if the ppa does not work, uninstall what it installs and try the driver off the website
[02:35] <duanedesign> the one on the website was released a couple months ago so surely it will work. You just have to compile the driver when you DL it off the site. It is not too hard though
[02:37] <xyclo> Hm... I am thinking I'll have trouble uninstalling?
[02:37] <xyclo> I do not know how to do it clean...
[02:37] <xyclo> by the way, your cat got me confused.
[02:39] <xyclo> Please see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575281/
[02:40] <xyclo> hm... misspelled
[02:42] <xyclo> It does not work...
[02:43] <xyclo> I am trying from Synaptic now...
[02:44] <xyclo> I think I can do this from here, including uninstall if it goes wrong.
[02:45] <duanedesign> xyclo: did you do the :   sudo apt-get update
[02:46] <xyclo> yes...
[02:46] <duanedesign> ok
[02:46] <xyclo> But it is ok now
[02:46] <duanedesign> ohhh, i mispelled it
[02:46] <duanedesign> :P
[02:46] <xyclo> I keep messing up the spelling fglrx vs flgrx and I am not sure...
[02:47] <xyclo> Me too!
[02:47] <xyclo> no worries
[02:47] <duanedesign> i am doing the same , lol
[02:47] <xyclo> I am installing now
[02:47] <xyclo> but internet is SO slow these days
[02:47] <xyclo> hate Verizon
[02:47] <xyclo> IRC Question:
[02:48] <xyclo> How do you do the Asterisk thing, like "* xyclo hates Verizon"
[02:48] <xyclo> sorry for the trivia...
[02:49] <duanedesign> the fglrx-installer package will install 4 packages
[02:49] <duanedesign> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer
[02:51] <duanedesign> so if for some reason sudo apt-get purge fglrx-installer  does not work yoou can do  sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev fglrx-modaliases
[02:51] <xyclo> OK. I am installing 2 at the moment and I can add the other two. This worked for the original package, so I guess it will now again
[02:51] <duanedesign> definetly
[02:51] <xyclo> :)
[02:51] <duanedesign> xyclo: you do not need the other two
[02:52] <xyclo> agree
[02:52] <xyclo> so only fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle
[02:54] <duanedesign> yes
[02:54] <duanedesign> what was the IRc QUESTION
[02:54] <duanedesign> ?
[02:54] <xyclo> hehe
[02:54] <xyclo> To do *"xyclo agrees"
[02:54]  * duanedesign agrees
[02:54] <xyclo> yep
[02:54] <duanedesign>  /me agrees
[02:55] <xyclo> aha!
[02:55] <xyclo> I hate it when the answer is so easy...
[02:55] <xyclo> and it usually is!
[02:55] <xyclo> thanks
[02:55] <duanedesign> :)
[02:55]  * xyclo has learned yet another thing today
[02:56] <duanedesign> I use it a lot when someone posts a link
[02:56] <duanedesign> to let people know you are looking at it
[02:56]  * duanedesign looking
[02:56] <xyclo> ok
[02:56] <xyclo> I know how to use help
[02:57] <xyclo> but have not gone through every command yet
[02:59] <xyclo> E: fglrx: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10
[02:59] <xyclo> E: fglrx-amdcccle: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:59] <xyclo> duanedesign, same, or very similar error
[03:00] <duanedesign> ok
[03:00] <duanedesign> that is different
[03:01] <duanedesign> did it say what the dependency problem was?
[03:01] <xyclo> hm
[03:01] <xyclo> I dumbly closed it...
[03:02] <xyclo> it did not, but it would in the details maybe
[03:02] <xyclo> should I try reinstall?
[03:03] <duanedesign> first
[03:03] <duanedesign> run
[03:03] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get install -f
[03:03]  * xyclo doing it
[03:05] <xyclo> Errors were encountered while processing:
[03:05] <xyclo>  fglrx
[03:05] <xyclo>  fglrx-amdcccle
[03:06] <xyclo> I found the same line, or very similar, as before: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.33-29-realtime (i686)
[03:08] <duanedesign> hmm
[03:08] <duanedesign> ok
[03:10] <duanedesign> xyclo: if you open Synaptic
[03:10] <xyclo> yes
[03:10] <duanedesign> xyclo: click  Status button on left
[03:11] <xyclo> ok
[03:11] <duanedesign> is there a broken
[03:11] <duanedesign> section
[03:11] <xyclo> nope
[03:11] <duanedesign> where it says all, installed, etc
[03:11] <duanedesign> ok
[03:11] <duanedesign> Edit > Fix Broken Packages
[03:12] <xyclo> All, 3 installed, 2 not installed
[03:12] <xyclo> done
[03:13] <duanedesign> ok. you can try to install those packages on more time
[03:15] <xyclo> sorry, on more time?
[03:15] <xyclo> you mean from the 11.2 Catalyst?
[03:15] <xyclo> that I downloaded?
[03:20] <duanedesign> xyclo: i woould try the ppa one more time
[03:20] <xyclo> you mean uninstall and then install the two packages
[03:21] <duanedesign> xyclo: sorry, so they did install
[03:22] <xyclo> yes
[03:22] <duanedesign> ok
[03:22] <xyclo> same happened with the original package though
[03:22] <duanedesign> when you tried to enable it?
[03:23] <xyclo> It does not show up in Additional Drivers.
[03:23] <duanedesign> what do you get from:   lsmod | grep fglrx
[03:25] <xyclo> no return
[03:25] <xyclo> nothing'
[03:25] <duanedesign> ok, how about:   modprobe fglrx
[03:26] <xyclo> WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release.
[03:26] <xyclo> FATAL: Module fglrx not found.
[03:26] <duanedesign> ok
[03:26] <duanedesign> xyclo: yeah I guess purge the packages and try newest one off the site
[03:27] <xyclo> purge is uninstall??
[03:27] <duanedesign> yeah
[03:27] <duanedesign> sudo apt-get purge
[03:27] <xyclo> ok
[03:27] <duanedesign> it is :  sudo apt-get remove  , but it also removes config files
[03:29] <xyclo> ok. done
[03:29] <xyclo> now, to the other option
[03:31] <xyclo> It seems to go fine
[03:34] <xyclo> Boooo, same thing...
[03:34] <xyclo> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.33-29-realtime (i686)
[03:40] <xyclo> duanedesign, No more options by now, right?
[03:41] <duanedesign> xyclo: do you have header files that match the kernel
[03:43] <duanedesign> well, you are not getting the Error! Application of patch rt_preempt_33.patch failed. error anymore
[03:43]  * xyclo looking
[03:43] <duanedesign> but for some reason the module does not want to build
[03:45] <xyclo> I do have the header files for the rt kernel
[03:51] <duanedesign> xyclo: might be bug 573748
[03:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 573748 in fglrx-installer "[MASTER] fglrx does not build on 2.6.33 kernel and higher" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/573748
[03:52] <duanedesign> also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386820
[03:55] <xyclo> ok
[03:55] <xyclo> I'll do the reading
[03:56] <xyclo> but now to bed!
[03:56] <xyclo> Thanks a lot, duanedesign
[03:56] <johnny77> Typically, is a wireless on/off button detected by bios or OS?
[03:57] <aveilleux> johnny77: Depends on the computer, my ThinkPad has a physical toggle switch but it can be overridden
[03:58] <aveilleux> johnny77: Other machines, especially netbooks, tend to actually switch off the hardware
[03:59] <johnny77> aveilleux: Thanks, I have a button on an old compaq. The light is always blue, but I thought it may be giving me my wireless troubles.
[04:00] <aveilleux> johnny77: Blue or green usually means on
[04:02] <johnny77> aveilleux: yeah, but even if I click it, it stays blue thus my question. I was thinking if it was connected to the hardware it should turn to the off color when pressed no matter the OS.
[04:03] <aveilleux> johnny77: Oh, it's a spring-loaded slider switch? (whatever that's actually called)
[04:05] <johnny77> aveilleux: no, it's a spring loaded button, similar to the keys of a keyboard, but not big and square.
[04:08] <aveilleux> johnny77: Oh, I see.
[04:08] <aveilleux> johnny77: That seems like it would be a software button then, yeah
[04:09] <johnny77> aveilleux: I'm gonna have to set this one aside for a couple of days before I chuck it out the window. :p
[04:27] <pv2depoty> does anyone know anything about adb for android phones?
[04:27] <cprofitt> hey guys pv2depoty could use some help if anyone knows about android phones
[04:27] <cprofitt> pv2depoty: you from NY?
[04:27] <pv2depoty> yep
[04:27] <cprofitt> nice, what part?
[04:27] <pv2depoty> rochester
[04:28] <cprofitt> Dude... too cool... you go to the Lugor meetings?
[04:28] <pv2depoty> no i just got ubuntu and im pretty new to it
[04:28] <cprofitt> well... if you are new to it stick in this channel
[04:28] <cprofitt> they help new folks quite a bit
[04:29] <pv2depoty> good deal ducky was tryin to help me out the other day
[04:29] <cprofitt> you can also join the NY team if you like - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-newyork
[04:29] <pv2depoty> o yeah im a member
[04:29] <cprofitt> and the LUGOR meetings are not advanced so could be useful
[04:29] <cprofitt> they meet on the third Thursday of every month at Naz
[04:29] <pv2depoty> i got the email the other day sayin u approved me lol
[04:30] <cprofitt> http://lugor.org/
[04:30] <cprofitt> cool... different name on Lauchpad?
[04:30] <cprofitt> you are Stephen then
[04:30] <pv2depoty> yep
[04:30] <cprofitt> nice to meet you
[04:30] <cprofitt> here is some information on the Beginners Team
[04:30] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam
[04:31] <cprofitt> you can shoot your question to the Lugor mailing list... I know there are a few Android folks on the list
[04:31] <pv2depoty> aight i check into that thanks
[04:32] <cprofitt> tons of resources, but sometimes difficult to get all the asnwers
[04:32] <xAndromeda> quick question again, the notification area pannel applet crashed, how do i reboot it? O.o
[04:32] <cprofitt> immediately... you can also use the Ubuntu Forums or askubuntu.com
[04:32] <cprofitt> depends on the app -- it might have auto-restarted
[04:32] <cprofitt> which one does it say had a problem?
[04:33] <xAndromeda> its the notification area one for the top pannel
[04:34] <cprofitt> http://askubuntu.com/
[04:34] <cprofitt> xAndromeda: yes... when you click on the crash notification does it tell you what crashed?
[04:35] <cprofitt> if it is the panel itself you can type:
[04:35] <cprofitt> killall gnome-panel
[04:35] <cprofitt> in to a terminal
[04:36] <cprofitt> that will restart gnome-panel
[04:36] <xAndromeda> crash noficication?
[04:36] <cprofitt> well... crash notifications usually notify you that 'xxxx' application crashed
[04:37] <cprofitt> could be Firefox or some other app
[04:37] <cprofitt> that is why I was asking you to click on the crash notification to bring up more information
[04:37] <xAndromeda> ok that worked but im getting some graphical error
[04:37] <xAndromeda> only on the pannel though
[04:37] <xAndromeda> like the background
[04:37] <xAndromeda> is all black and random colour bits evyerwhere
[04:38] <cprofitt> weird...
[04:38] <cprofitt> sounds like your theme is foobar
[04:38] <xAndromeda> it goees away if i change the colour to system default and back again
[04:39] <xAndromeda> but damn annoying! lol
[04:39] <cprofitt> here is some informaiton
[04:39] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[04:39] <cprofitt> that might help
[04:41] <cprofitt> xAndromeda: does it crash all the time or rarely?
[04:43] <cprofitt> xAndromeda: you might want to take a look in /var/crash as well and see if there are any files in there
[04:45] <xAndromeda> it crashed like twice today
[04:45] <xAndromeda> and once like 2 days ago
[04:45] <cprofitt> I would look in /var/crash/ then
[04:45] <cprofitt> are there any files there?
[04:46] <xAndromeda> dosnt look liek ai ahve a/var/crash folder O.o
[04:47] <cprofitt> check /var/log for apport.log
[04:47] <cprofitt> that might tell you what is failing
[04:49] <xAndromeda> dont ahve a apport.log lol
[04:50] <xAndromeda> btw
[04:50] <cprofitt> if you get that notification again -- click on it and see if there is more detail
[04:50] <xAndromeda> whats the command to open gdesklets
[04:51] <xAndromeda> it dosnt appear to be gdesklets lol
[04:51] <cprofitt> odd...
[04:51] <cprofitt> not sure on that one either as I do not use them
[04:52] <xAndromeda> ahh forgot to add shell
[04:52] <cprofitt> well... I gotta run and get some sleep
[04:52] <cprofitt> night a
[04:52] <cprofitt> all
[04:58] <bomonu|LT> can someone tell me how in Ubuntu 10.04, via the cli, to change my login option to ask for my pw. I currently have it set to autologin but I am having issues with my PAM keyring locking up the system
[05:05] <bioterror> bomonu|LT, is your network connection available to all users?
[05:05] <bioterror> if you "right click" the network icon, you should see preferences
[05:05] <bioterror> sorry
[05:05] <bioterror> "Edit connections"
[05:05] <bomonu|LT> bioterror: my desktop is frozen, that is the issue
[05:06] <bioterror> are you using default ubuntu?
[05:07] <bioterror> I dont have a GDM running so I'm just guessing: sudo gdmsetup
[05:07] <bioterror> but I'm off to work
[05:07] <bioterror> you might also want to check some gdm.conf files for autologin
[05:24] <bomonu|LT> bioterror: ty
[05:28] <bioterror> did you figure it out?
[05:28] <bomonu|LT> nope :(
[05:29] <bomonu|LT> still searching
[05:29] <bioterror> under /etc=dm/
[05:29] <bioterror> sadka
[05:29] <bioterror> /etc/gdm/
[05:29] <bomonu|LT> ?
[05:30] <bioterror> theres gdm configs
[05:33] <bomonu|LT> how to restart x in 'safe mode'?
[05:33] <bomonu|LT> ah ok, will look
[05:35] <bioterror> sudo service gdm restart
[05:37] <bomonu|LT> same result, frozen desktop
[05:38] <bioterror> how does get frozen?
[05:39] <bioterror> what could freeze it
[05:39] <bioterror> mouse doesnt react?
[05:49] <bomonu|LT> can move my mouse, but the buttons wont actually click on anything,
[05:49] <tenach> I get that too; i have to restart gdm multiple times for it to recognize the mouse.
[05:49] <tenach> it's annoying.
[05:49] <bomonu|LT> but my keyring pw window keeps popping up
[05:52] <geirha> I've had that too, mouse-buttons stopped working. In my case it was totem doing it, so switching to a vt to kill it would get the mouse back.
[05:52] <geirha> mainly totem started from firefox.
[05:54] <bomonu|LT> bioterror: ty for your help, i uninstalled 'gnome-do' and it is cured now
[06:23] <bioterror> gnome-do is one of these horrible wannabe OS X docks?
[06:23] <zkriesse> I like Docky
[06:28] <Cheri703> I have heard such wonderful things about docks or gnome-do or various things, I guess I don't get it...can someone explain why they're wonderful?
[06:28] <bioterror> becouse Apple
[06:29] <pleia2> I don't think gnome-do has a dock, it's essentially a suite of keyboard shortcuts to launch little apps which "do" different things
[06:30] <bioterror> /apps/gnome-do/preferences/Docky/
[06:31]  * bioterror actually has a dock on his desktop computers desktop
[06:31] <Cheri703> I think I could probably be doing things in a more streamlined manner, but...I get into habits
[06:32] <pleia2> I think gnome do is one of those things that has a learning curve, but once you get used to it you can't live without it :)
[06:32] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[06:32] <bioterror> pleia2, I've managed to live almost 29 years without it :D
[06:32] <bioterror> I think I can live another 29 years without it
[06:33] <Cheri703> friend of mine thought it was WONDERFUL, he has all kinds of crap set up, most of it isn't really useful for me I think. I (for shame) only use one workspace...
[07:48] <xAndromeda> do you guys know
[07:48] <xAndromeda> where i can find that setting in compiz
[07:49] <xAndromeda> that lets you drag between desktops
[07:49] <xAndromeda> iknow its there jsut cant find it
[07:53] <bioterror> I'm not a huge fan of desktop effects, so I cant help
[07:54] <Puck`> not using compiz either
[07:54] <Puck`> and good morning everyone
[07:54] <bioterror> you might want to use somekind of settings manager
[08:13] <xAndromeda> lol im a big fan of themeing/effects
[08:13] <xAndromeda> and it really helps learning the OS
[08:14] <xAndromeda> cuz you dont get fustrated as easily
[08:14] <xAndromeda> by the time ur done, you should be competent enough for everyday tasks
[08:14] <xAndromeda> and you get somthing pretty to look at
[08:15] <bioterror> that's why I have a daughter :D
[08:16] <xAndromeda> i think my desktop is prettier ;)
[08:16] <xAndromeda> lol
[09:02] <JackyAlcine> xAndromeda: You there?
[09:03] <JackyAlcine> I think you're referring to the plugin for Compiz called Expo.
[10:16] <ray_> I cant remember it
[10:17] <ray_> I looked for where I put it
[10:17] <ray_> Better then installing from source, but what was it so when I install from source it will be removable in synaptic package manager?
[10:18] <ray_> I mean better when when installing from source to use this command?
[10:18] <ray_> I am used to:
[10:18] <ray_> "./configure"
[10:19] <ray_> ""make"
[10:19] <ray_> "sudo make install"
[10:20] <ray_> but better so that "sudo make install" ends up being replaced, but I can't remember what it was
[10:20] <ray_> sudo check install, is that it?
[10:21] <Synth_sam> yes, checkinstall
[10:21] <Synth_sam> all one word
[10:22] <Synth_sam> then the package can be removed via sudo dpkg -r packagename
[10:23] <ray_> or synaptic package manager as well, right?
[10:23] <ray_> I should make note of what you said
[10:23] <Synth_sam> just checking
[10:24] <Synth_sam> yes, appears that programs installed from deb packages are listed in synaptic
[10:24] <ray_> I don't know where I put the info someone handed to me about checkinstall so thank you very much
[10:24] <Synth_sam> you might have to install checkinstall first
[10:24] <ray_> I am reading this right now, well I just came back to look at what you posted
[10:25] <ray_> http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/using-checkinstall-build-packages-source
[10:25] <ray_> I will check
[10:26] <ray_> You were right, but it didn't take long to install. Maybe 2 or 3 seconds, LOL
[10:27] <ray_> I remember about a week or so ago doing sudo apt-get install checkinstall  and it was already installed, but I don't remember installing before someone told me about it.
[10:27] <ray_> That was on my other hard drive
[10:28] <ray_> Thank you very much dude. See you later.
[10:28] <Synth_sam> np
[10:28] <Synth_sam> bye
[10:28] <ray_> o/
[10:28] <ray_> bye
[11:26] <ray_> I am looking for a deb package of D.O.G. which is frontend for DOSBox
[11:32] <Synth_sam> checkinstall didn't work, or this is something else?
[11:33] <ray_> I am just messing around
[11:33] <ray_> I decided to try meka with dosbox, but I got an error
[11:33] <ray_> hold on and I will find that error
[11:34] <ray_> Load error: no DPMI - Get csdpmi*b.zip
[11:34] <ray_> so I looked it up and D.O.G. is said to have what's needed to make it work
[11:35] <Synth_sam> Says that it's windows software
[11:35] <ray_> Great
[11:35] <ray_> LOL
[11:35] <ray_> Ya, o well
[11:35] <ray_> Well in this link:
[11:35] <ray_> http://members.quicknet.nl/blankendaalr/dbgl/#download
[11:36] <ray_> At the bottom it says for linux
[11:36] <ray_> but I am not certain how to get this thing to run
[11:36] <ray_> I am looking at what the link says to do now
[11:37] <Synth_sam> Yeah, so DBGL is compatible with linux
[11:37] <Synth_sam> but D.O.G. is windows, according to the webpage
[11:38] <ray_> I must be misunderstanding this then
[11:38] <ray_> so it's the java version of dog then?
[11:39] <Synth_sam> http://www.freewebs.com/erikgg/
[11:39] <ray_> Where's the download link from there though?
[11:39] <ray_> I was there a couple of times
[11:40] <Synth_sam> "D.O.G. is developed for DOSBox 0.58 and up only for Windows"
[11:40] <ray_> must be my theme, give me a sec
[11:40] <Synth_sam> http://www.freewebs.com/erikgg/Download.htm
[11:42] <ray_> Thank you. If I decide to go the linux route of using the java version, it says I need java installed, so I might try that after this depending on if this works
[11:43] <Synth_sam> k
[11:49] <ray_> I tried using wine to run it then it asked where dosbox.exe was so I went to where I have a windows version located but it said there was a sharing violation
[11:49] <Synth_sam> and DBGL doesn't work using java?
[11:50] <Synth_sam> if you can get that to work, it should be much superior to using wine imho
[11:50] <ray_> OK
[11:51] <ray_> Your question, um, Are you asking with that question, or telling me?
[11:52] <Synth_sam> I asked if you had tried DBGL using java
[11:52] <ray_> No
[11:52] <Synth_sam> then stated that if it works, it would be better than using wine
[11:53] <ray_> How do I install the proper version, I am about to look into synaptic for java
[11:55] <ray_> I didn't read what was said at the very bottom of that link
[11:56] <ray_> where it says:Please use openJDK or Sun's Java Runtime as a workaround.
[11:56] <ray_> oops, that's not the bottom
[11:58] <ray_> sorry my theme is messing up what I see on google. SucksI like black background and white text with the clearlooks theme industrial
[12:06] <ray_> Just extract the archive to any dir and start dbgl.cmd (Windows), or dbgl.sh (Linux)
[12:06] <ray_> but
[12:06] <ray_> Mine is dbgl.jar
[12:06] <Synth_sam> there's nothing else in the archive?
[12:07] <bioterror> jar is java
[12:07] <bioterror> java -jar dbgl.jar
[12:08] <ray_> but they said to start dbgl.sh
[12:08] <ray_> who right this?
[12:08] <ray_> I've java before
[12:08] <raju> Man thats in linux
[12:08] <raju> Sh is in bash
[12:09] <ray_> some crazy rubik's cube java program I have laying around
[12:09] <ray_> There's no .sh file anywhere in the download I downloaded from there. I am just making my small point, no big deal
[12:09] <ray_> bash you say
[12:10] <raju> Open your terminal in linux and run the script
[12:10] <raju> You told me na you have some .sh
[12:11] <ray_> I've seen .sh everywhere. Now that makes sense
[12:11] <raju> Got you man
[12:11] <ray_> Thank you for your input
[12:12] <ray_> I just tried openJDK on the java file earlier but it didn't work
[12:12] <raju> So do you have some jar file with you ?
[12:12] <ray_> I just also installed Sun's Java and I am about to try it
[12:12] <ray_> Yep
[12:12] <ray_> dbgl.jar
[12:13] <ray_> from here:
[12:13] <ray_> http://members.quicknet.nl/blankendaalr/dbgl/#download
[12:13] <ray_> it says
[12:13] <ray_> Just extract the archive to any dir and start dbgl.cmd (Windows), or dbgl.sh (Linux). Mac users can simply drag the DBGL icon into their Applications folder and start it. Please note that you MUST have the Java Runtime Environment 1.5 (or higher) installed, it will not work without the JRE1.5, or with an older version. Moreover, java.exe should be in your path (or if you're running on Linux,...
[12:13] <ray_> .../usr/bin/java should be (a symbolic link) pointing to the 1.5 JVM).
[12:13] <raju> Then bioterror gave the solution . Check last  previous logs
[12:13] <ray_> that's all I will flood sorry
[12:14] <raju> Oh mistake
[15:26] <lordjj> Hey. Do I need to add a repo for gettext-dev, it's not being found with apt-get install
[15:26] <lordjj> same for autoconf-1.9 ("autoconf" seems to work tho, is that the same?)
[15:28] <duanedesign> hello lordjj
[15:29] <lordjj> Hello
[15:31] <duanedesign> lordjj: i do not think there is a gettext-dev
[15:32] <lordjj> duanedesign: here's what I need to do: http://www.wormux.org/phpboost/wiki/subversion
[15:33] <duanedesign> lordjj: i think there was a libgettext-dev (or something like) but now gettext package should install all need. There are some extra dev files related, but seems that they are ruby specific
[15:34] <lordjj> duanedesign: So installing gettext should do it?
[15:35] <duanedesign> lordjj: /me looking
[15:38] <duanedesign> lordjj: from what i can tell, yes, gettext package should be all you need
[15:38] <lordjj> duanedesign: Thanks
[15:39] <lordjj> duanedesign: as for autoconf-1.9, there are "autoconf" "autoconf2.13" and "autoconf2.59
[15:39] <lordjj> duanedesign: I would install all, but am afraid they may cause conflict or something
[15:41] <duanedesign> what verison of Ubuntu are yuou runing/
[15:42] <lordjj> 10.04 LTS
[15:43] <duanedesign> ibuclaw: if build instructions ask for autoconf-1.9, is it ok to just install the current autoconf available in the repos?
[15:44] <duanedesign> lordjj: i think iinstalling just 'autoconf' will be ok
[15:45] <lordjj> duanedesign: Ok, thanks for help.
[15:46] <ibuclaw> duanedesign, 'autoconf' will install the latest version
[15:46] <ibuclaw> the others are prior versions.
[15:47] <ibuclaw> also, wouldn't it be automake-1.9 ?
[15:47] <ibuclaw> or is this a really old configure script? :)
[15:49] <lordjj> ibuclaw: It is this: http://www.wormux.org/phpboost/wiki/subversion
[15:50] <ibuclaw> any music savvy folk in town btw?
[15:51] <ibuclaw> lordjj, wormux... :3
[15:51]  * ibuclaw remembers that from a while back
[15:51] <lordjj> hehe
[15:54] <lordjj> ibuclaw: If I install all listed versions of autoconf, may any conflict occur?
[15:58] <ibuclaw> lordjj, nope
[15:59] <ibuclaw> knowing a thing or two at how package maintainers do this, it'll likely install in ie:
[15:59] <lordjj> ok, I think I'll install both 2,65 and 2.13 since 2.65's description says: This version of autoconf is not compatible with scripts meant for
[15:59] <lordjj> Autoconf 2.13 or earlier.  If you need support for such scripts,
[15:59] <lordjj> you must also install the autoconf2.13 package. says
[15:59] <ibuclaw>  /usr/share/autoconf2.59 - autoconf2.13 and autoconf2.61
[16:00] <ibuclaw> the latter (from the main autoconf package) having a soft link to /usr/share/autoconf as to say "I'm the main program"
[18:12] <RealEyes> !grub2
[18:14] <Synth_sam> what of grub2?
[18:24] <duanedesign> ubot is not here >.>  <.<
[18:32] <UndiFineD> !cookie | duanedesign
[18:48] <johnny77> I want to try to use ndiswrapper for a wireless adapter, but don't know how to get the drivers out of the exe install file.
[21:43] <johnny77> How can I obtain an IP address from my router, but not be able to ping it?
[21:47] <charlie-tca> I can not remember how to do that.
[21:51] <davidl_> Johnny77:  did you figure it out?
[21:52] <davidl_> That's pretty wierd...  maybe if the subnet mask is setup in such a way that the router's ip is sitting on a different network.  ???  just a guess.
[21:54] <johnny77> davidl_: then how do I fix it? Also, I'm running a CLI right now.
[21:54] <davidl_> what do you see when you go an ifconfig?
[21:55] <davidl_> #ifconfig
[21:55] <davidl_> or #ifconfig eth0
[21:55] <davidl_> sry... typo...   when you "do" and ifconfig
[21:59] <UndiFineD> johnny77: icmp filtering blocks pings
[21:59] <johnny77> davidl_: I see a eth0 and some stuff, lo and some stuff, wlan0 and some stuff. can't copy paste anything specific you looking for?
[21:59] <johnny77> what is icmp filtering?
[22:00] <UndiFineD> that can be done by iptables
[22:00] <davidl_> I think icmp is "Internet Control Message Protocol" or something
[22:01] <davidl_> eth0 is probably the interface you are concerned with
[22:01]  * UndiFineD s/Control/Creative/
[22:01] <davidl_> do you know what the router should be giving out via dhcp?
[22:01] <johnny77> davidl_: actually I'm doing wireless so it's wlan0.
[22:02] <davidl_> oh...
[22:02] <davidl_> Are you getting an address?
[22:02] <davidl_> here's what mine says when I type ifconfig
[22:03] <johnny77> davidl_: Yes, I have it set to give out dhcp. Also I figured it out. I haven't seen eth0 before so I killed dhclient, ifconfig eth0 down then ran dhclient wlan0 and it connected and pings.
[22:03] <davidl_> inet addr:192.168.1.100  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
[22:03] <johnny77> davidl_: thank you for your help though. :)
[22:04] <davidl_> nice
[23:36] <dtrf4837> help i'm having trouble creating xorg.config
[23:36] <dtrf4837> xorg.conf i mean
[23:37] <dtrf4837> i need to fix my monitor resolution