[00:25] Hi [00:26] I am having a really hard time with ATI driver [00:26] I have a Lenovo T400 and cannot install the driver [00:26] hello xyclo [00:27] hi duanedesign [00:28] xyclo: can you runn this command in a terminal so we can see your graphics card and chipset: lspci -nn | grep VGA [00:28] 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series [1002:95c4] [00:29] I'm using 10.04 [00:29] rt kernel [00:30] xyclo: let me see which driver that is [00:32] 32bit [00:33] ok looks like you can use the fglrx with that carsd [00:33] yes [00:33] card* [00:33] but it does not work [00:34] fglrx-amdcccle gives trouble [00:34] did it show up under System->Administration->Additional Drivers [00:34] yes [00:34] but it gives an error [00:34] ok [00:36] thanks duanedesign [00:39] xyclo: where do you see the error? While trying to install the driver? [00:40] While trying to Activate it on System->Administration->Additional Drivers [00:40] does it say why it can not install that package? [00:41] Both fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle are installed [00:42] xyclo: ahh i see, while activating, not install ing :) [00:42] yep [00:42] If I try to reinstall them, it gives an error as well [00:46] xyclo: what is the error you get when you run: sudo apt-get --reinstall install fglrx [00:47] sudo apt-get --reinstall install fglrx [00:47] Sorry [00:47] Error! Application of patch rt_preempt_33.patch failed. [00:47] so, rt- kernel? [00:48] Errors were encountered while processing: [00:48] fglrx [00:48] fglrx-amdcccle [00:48] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [00:49] xyclo: ok, let me see.. [00:50] thanks again, duanedesign [00:55] xyclo: ok, which kernel are you using: uname -a [01:00] hello! [01:00] I need help restoring grub 2 [01:00] I'm getting some funky errors. [01:01] I'm on a live CD right now, but I installed win7 to a NEW hdd and now my grub2 is gone. [01:01] Can someone help me? [01:06] hello ubuntu23123 [01:06] hey [01:06] i just installed grub2 its taking me through a menu inside the terminal [01:08] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD [01:08] there are instructions for reinstalling Grub2 from liveCD^ [01:11] grub failed to install [01:13] Linux alfonso-lenovo 2.6.33-29-realtime #1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT RT Wed Aug 4 20:14:20 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux [01:13] Sorry, duanedesign, I had to step out for a while [01:14] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt [01:14] Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened. [01:14] The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which [01:14] could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command. [01:15] xyclo: ok [01:15] error: http://pastebin.com/jM78hTuM [01:15] xyclo: i would try the newest driver from ati website. http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.42&lang=English [01:16] Great [01:16] it was my next step. In fact, I already downloaded it [01:16] Thanks again^2, duanedesign [01:17] If I succeed I'll come back to report... [01:18] xyclo: i have instructions [01:18] to install the driver [01:19] xyclo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Install%20the%20fglrx%20Driver%20from%20AMD/ATI%20Catalyst%2011.2%20For%20Ubuntu%2010.10%20Maverick [01:19] its for a newer version of Ubuntu but that is ok [01:19] you will just change this command to suit: sudo sh ati-driver-installer-11-2-x86.x86_64.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/maverick [01:20] as in, change file name and Maverick [01:21] ubuntu23123: looks like in the mount command you are trying to mount the windows partition [01:21] yes [01:21] is that not right? [01:23] sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt [01:23] you mount the Ubuntu partition [01:25] Great, thx duanedesign [01:28] xyclo: there is a ppa you might try first if you have not started already [02:18] I am back, duanedesign [02:18] ppa? [02:22] xyclo: hello [02:23] xyclo: i noticed there is a ppa that has a newer version of the driver available [02:23] xyclo: not as new as the one on the ATI website [02:23] but it is a lot easier to install [02:24] great. [02:24] I can try that first [02:26] ok the commands are [02:26] CensoredBiscuit: glad it went well and I wish you a very speedy recovery [02:26] nop [02:27] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates [02:27] sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install flgrx-installer [02:28] sorry, cat jumped over the keyboard. Its the last two lines starting with sudo. [02:30] bug 159941 [02:30] Launchpad bug 159941 in fglrx-installer "fglrx driver does not work in RT kernel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159941 [02:30] xyclo: FWIW that is the bug you are affected by ^ [02:31] aha! [02:31] It is what I thought [02:31] It feels good to see it officially identified as a bug. [02:32] :) [02:33] from what I have read the driver was patched, but packaged wrong i think, anyway it is fixed you just need the driver new enough to have the patch (done correctly) [02:34] so if the ppa does not work, uninstall what it installs and try the driver off the website [02:35] the one on the website was released a couple months ago so surely it will work. You just have to compile the driver when you DL it off the site. It is not too hard though [02:37] Hm... I am thinking I'll have trouble uninstalling? [02:37] I do not know how to do it clean... [02:37] by the way, your cat got me confused. [02:39] Please see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575281/ [02:40] hm... misspelled [02:42] It does not work... [02:43] I am trying from Synaptic now... [02:44] I think I can do this from here, including uninstall if it goes wrong. [02:45] xyclo: did you do the : sudo apt-get update [02:46] yes... [02:46] ok [02:46] But it is ok now [02:46] ohhh, i mispelled it [02:46] :P [02:46] I keep messing up the spelling fglrx vs flgrx and I am not sure... [02:47] Me too! [02:47] no worries [02:47] i am doing the same , lol [02:47] I am installing now [02:47] but internet is SO slow these days [02:47] hate Verizon [02:47] IRC Question: [02:48] How do you do the Asterisk thing, like "* xyclo hates Verizon" [02:48] sorry for the trivia... [02:49] the fglrx-installer package will install 4 packages [02:49] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer [02:51] so if for some reason sudo apt-get purge fglrx-installer does not work yoou can do sudo apt-get purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle fglrx-dev fglrx-modaliases [02:51] OK. I am installing 2 at the moment and I can add the other two. This worked for the original package, so I guess it will now again [02:51] definetly [02:51] :) [02:51] xyclo: you do not need the other two [02:52] agree [02:52] so only fglrx and fglrx-amdcccle [02:54] yes [02:54] what was the IRc QUESTION [02:54] ? [02:54] hehe [02:54] To do *"xyclo agrees" [02:54] * duanedesign agrees [02:54] yep [02:54] /me agrees [02:55] aha! [02:55] I hate it when the answer is so easy... [02:55] and it usually is! [02:55] thanks [02:55] :) [02:55] * xyclo has learned yet another thing today [02:56] I use it a lot when someone posts a link [02:56] to let people know you are looking at it [02:56] * duanedesign looking [02:56] ok [02:56] I know how to use help [02:57] but have not gone through every command yet [02:59] E: fglrx: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 10 [02:59] E: fglrx-amdcccle: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured [02:59] duanedesign, same, or very similar error [03:00] ok [03:00] that is different [03:01] did it say what the dependency problem was? [03:01] hm [03:01] I dumbly closed it... [03:02] it did not, but it would in the details maybe [03:02] should I try reinstall? [03:03] first [03:03] run [03:03] sudo apt-get install -f [03:03] * xyclo doing it [03:05] Errors were encountered while processing: [03:05] fglrx [03:05] fglrx-amdcccle [03:06] I found the same line, or very similar, as before: Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.33-29-realtime (i686) [03:08] hmm [03:08] ok [03:10] xyclo: if you open Synaptic [03:10] yes [03:10] xyclo: click Status button on left [03:11] ok [03:11] is there a broken [03:11] section [03:11] nope [03:11] where it says all, installed, etc [03:11] ok [03:11] Edit > Fix Broken Packages [03:12] All, 3 installed, 2 not installed [03:12] done [03:13] ok. you can try to install those packages on more time [03:15] sorry, on more time? [03:15] you mean from the 11.2 Catalyst? [03:15] that I downloaded? [03:20] xyclo: i woould try the ppa one more time [03:20] you mean uninstall and then install the two packages [03:21] xyclo: sorry, so they did install [03:22] yes [03:22] ok [03:22] same happened with the original package though [03:22] when you tried to enable it? [03:23] It does not show up in Additional Drivers. [03:23] what do you get from: lsmod | grep fglrx [03:25] no return [03:25] nothing' [03:25] ok, how about: modprobe fglrx [03:26] WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/sound, it will be ignored in a future release. [03:26] FATAL: Module fglrx not found. [03:26] ok [03:26] xyclo: yeah I guess purge the packages and try newest one off the site [03:27] purge is uninstall?? [03:27] yeah [03:27] sudo apt-get purge [03:27] ok [03:27] it is : sudo apt-get remove , but it also removes config files [03:29] ok. done [03:29] now, to the other option [03:31] It seems to go fine [03:34] Boooo, same thing... [03:34] Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.33-29-realtime (i686) [03:40] duanedesign, No more options by now, right? [03:41] xyclo: do you have header files that match the kernel [03:43] well, you are not getting the Error! Application of patch rt_preempt_33.patch failed. error anymore [03:43] * xyclo looking [03:43] but for some reason the module does not want to build [03:45] I do have the header files for the rt kernel [03:51] xyclo: might be bug 573748 [03:51] Launchpad bug 573748 in fglrx-installer "[MASTER] fglrx does not build on 2.6.33 kernel and higher" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/573748 [03:52] also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1386820 [03:55] ok [03:55] I'll do the reading [03:56] but now to bed! [03:56] Thanks a lot, duanedesign [03:56] Typically, is a wireless on/off button detected by bios or OS? [03:57] johnny77: Depends on the computer, my ThinkPad has a physical toggle switch but it can be overridden [03:58] johnny77: Other machines, especially netbooks, tend to actually switch off the hardware [03:59] aveilleux: Thanks, I have a button on an old compaq. The light is always blue, but I thought it may be giving me my wireless troubles. [04:00] johnny77: Blue or green usually means on [04:02] aveilleux: yeah, but even if I click it, it stays blue thus my question. I was thinking if it was connected to the hardware it should turn to the off color when pressed no matter the OS. [04:03] johnny77: Oh, it's a spring-loaded slider switch? (whatever that's actually called) [04:05] aveilleux: no, it's a spring loaded button, similar to the keys of a keyboard, but not big and square. [04:08] johnny77: Oh, I see. [04:08] johnny77: That seems like it would be a software button then, yeah [04:09] aveilleux: I'm gonna have to set this one aside for a couple of days before I chuck it out the window. :p [04:27] does anyone know anything about adb for android phones? [04:27] hey guys pv2depoty could use some help if anyone knows about android phones [04:27] pv2depoty: you from NY? [04:27] yep [04:27] nice, what part? [04:27] rochester [04:28] Dude... too cool... you go to the Lugor meetings? [04:28] no i just got ubuntu and im pretty new to it [04:28] well... if you are new to it stick in this channel [04:28] they help new folks quite a bit [04:29] good deal ducky was tryin to help me out the other day [04:29] you can also join the NY team if you like - https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-newyork [04:29] o yeah im a member [04:29] and the LUGOR meetings are not advanced so could be useful [04:29] they meet on the third Thursday of every month at Naz [04:29] i got the email the other day sayin u approved me lol [04:30] http://lugor.org/ [04:30] cool... different name on Lauchpad? [04:30] you are Stephen then [04:30] yep [04:30] nice to meet you [04:30] here is some information on the Beginners Team [04:30] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam [04:31] you can shoot your question to the Lugor mailing list... I know there are a few Android folks on the list [04:31] aight i check into that thanks [04:32] tons of resources, but sometimes difficult to get all the asnwers [04:32] quick question again, the notification area pannel applet crashed, how do i reboot it? O.o [04:32] immediately... you can also use the Ubuntu Forums or askubuntu.com [04:32] depends on the app -- it might have auto-restarted [04:32] which one does it say had a problem? [04:33] its the notification area one for the top pannel [04:34] http://askubuntu.com/ [04:34] xAndromeda: yes... when you click on the crash notification does it tell you what crashed? [04:35] if it is the panel itself you can type: [04:35] killall gnome-panel [04:35] in to a terminal [04:36] that will restart gnome-panel [04:36] crash noficication? [04:36] well... crash notifications usually notify you that 'xxxx' application crashed [04:37] could be Firefox or some other app [04:37] that is why I was asking you to click on the crash notification to bring up more information [04:37] ok that worked but im getting some graphical error [04:37] only on the pannel though [04:37] like the background [04:37] is all black and random colour bits evyerwhere [04:38] weird... [04:38] sounds like your theme is foobar [04:38] it goees away if i change the colour to system default and back again [04:39] but damn annoying! lol [04:39] here is some informaiton [04:39] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport [04:39] that might help [04:41] xAndromeda: does it crash all the time or rarely? [04:43] xAndromeda: you might want to take a look in /var/crash as well and see if there are any files in there [04:45] it crashed like twice today [04:45] and once like 2 days ago [04:45] I would look in /var/crash/ then [04:45] are there any files there? [04:46] dosnt look liek ai ahve a/var/crash folder O.o [04:47] check /var/log for apport.log [04:47] that might tell you what is failing [04:49] dont ahve a apport.log lol [04:50] btw [04:50] if you get that notification again -- click on it and see if there is more detail [04:50] whats the command to open gdesklets [04:51] it dosnt appear to be gdesklets lol [04:51] odd... [04:51] not sure on that one either as I do not use them [04:52] ahh forgot to add shell [04:52] well... I gotta run and get some sleep [04:52] night a [04:52] all [04:58] can someone tell me how in Ubuntu 10.04, via the cli, to change my login option to ask for my pw. I currently have it set to autologin but I am having issues with my PAM keyring locking up the system [05:05] bomonu|LT, is your network connection available to all users? [05:05] if you "right click" the network icon, you should see preferences [05:05] sorry [05:05] "Edit connections" [05:05] bioterror: my desktop is frozen, that is the issue [05:06] are you using default ubuntu? [05:07] I dont have a GDM running so I'm just guessing: sudo gdmsetup [05:07] but I'm off to work [05:07] you might also want to check some gdm.conf files for autologin [05:24] bioterror: ty [05:28] did you figure it out? [05:28] nope :( [05:29] still searching [05:29] under /etc=dm/ [05:29] sadka [05:29] /etc/gdm/ [05:29] ? [05:30] theres gdm configs [05:33] how to restart x in 'safe mode'? [05:33] ah ok, will look [05:35] sudo service gdm restart [05:37] same result, frozen desktop [05:38] how does get frozen? [05:39] what could freeze it [05:39] mouse doesnt react? [05:49] can move my mouse, but the buttons wont actually click on anything, [05:49] I get that too; i have to restart gdm multiple times for it to recognize the mouse. [05:49] it's annoying. [05:49] but my keyring pw window keeps popping up [05:52] I've had that too, mouse-buttons stopped working. In my case it was totem doing it, so switching to a vt to kill it would get the mouse back. [05:52] mainly totem started from firefox. [05:54] bioterror: ty for your help, i uninstalled 'gnome-do' and it is cured now [06:23] gnome-do is one of these horrible wannabe OS X docks? [06:23] I like Docky [06:28] I have heard such wonderful things about docks or gnome-do or various things, I guess I don't get it...can someone explain why they're wonderful? [06:28] becouse Apple [06:29] I don't think gnome-do has a dock, it's essentially a suite of keyboard shortcuts to launch little apps which "do" different things [06:30] /apps/gnome-do/preferences/Docky/ [06:31] * bioterror actually has a dock on his desktop computers desktop [06:31] I think I could probably be doing things in a more streamlined manner, but...I get into habits [06:32] I think gnome do is one of those things that has a learning curve, but once you get used to it you can't live without it :) [06:32] hmm...k [06:32] pleia2, I've managed to live almost 29 years without it :D [06:32] I think I can live another 29 years without it [06:33] friend of mine thought it was WONDERFUL, he has all kinds of crap set up, most of it isn't really useful for me I think. I (for shame) only use one workspace... [07:48] do you guys know [07:48] where i can find that setting in compiz [07:49] that lets you drag between desktops [07:49] iknow its there jsut cant find it [07:53] I'm not a huge fan of desktop effects, so I cant help [07:54] not using compiz either [07:54] and good morning everyone [07:54] you might want to use somekind of settings manager [08:13] lol im a big fan of themeing/effects [08:13] and it really helps learning the OS [08:14] cuz you dont get fustrated as easily [08:14] by the time ur done, you should be competent enough for everyday tasks [08:14] and you get somthing pretty to look at [08:15] that's why I have a daughter :D [08:16] i think my desktop is prettier ;) [08:16] lol [09:02] xAndromeda: You there? [09:03] I think you're referring to the plugin for Compiz called Expo. [10:16] I cant remember it [10:17] I looked for where I put it [10:17] Better then installing from source, but what was it so when I install from source it will be removable in synaptic package manager? [10:18] I mean better when when installing from source to use this command? [10:18] I am used to: [10:18] "./configure" [10:19] ""make" [10:19] "sudo make install" [10:20] but better so that "sudo make install" ends up being replaced, but I can't remember what it was [10:20] sudo check install, is that it? [10:21] yes, checkinstall [10:21] all one word [10:22] then the package can be removed via sudo dpkg -r packagename [10:23] or synaptic package manager as well, right? [10:23] I should make note of what you said [10:23] just checking [10:24] yes, appears that programs installed from deb packages are listed in synaptic [10:24] I don't know where I put the info someone handed to me about checkinstall so thank you very much [10:24] you might have to install checkinstall first [10:24] I am reading this right now, well I just came back to look at what you posted [10:25] http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/using-checkinstall-build-packages-source [10:25] I will check [10:26] You were right, but it didn't take long to install. Maybe 2 or 3 seconds, LOL [10:27] I remember about a week or so ago doing sudo apt-get install checkinstall and it was already installed, but I don't remember installing before someone told me about it. [10:27] That was on my other hard drive [10:28] Thank you very much dude. See you later. [10:28] np [10:28] bye [10:28] o/ [10:28] bye [11:26]