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skaet_hi zul15:55
* marjo waves15:59
* jdstrand_ waves15:59
* joshuahoover waves15:59
* oubiwann waves15:59
skaet_coolio.... quorum has gathered.  :)15:59
MootBotMeeting started at 10:00. The chair is skaet_.16:00
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skaet_[Topic] Natty overview - skaet_16:00
skaet_Reminder:   please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing.   If someone wants to comment during the updates, please "o/", so we know to wait.16:00
skaet_Agenda is at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-03-0416:00
skaet_Its currently the bugs that were still open from last week, as the new ones haven't been added yet.  I'll be starting off the tracking agenda (for 2011-03-11 meeting) with this week's A3 release discovered (and others) bugs in it on next monday/tuesday.16:00
MootBotNew Topic:  Natty overview - skaet_16:00
skaet_Milestoned bugs for beta can be found:16:00
skaet_[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone=33574.16:00
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone=33574.16:00
skaet_Bugs targetted for this release can be found:16:00
skaet_[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs16:00
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs16:00
skaet_I'll be working with the individual team leads and managers next week to look at the importance of the high and critical bugs open and make sure they're accurate.16:00
skaet_Upcoming Significant Dates:16:00
skaet_User Interface Freeze and Beta Freeze is March 24th (at 2300 UTC  ;) )16:01
skaet_Beta 1 Release is March 31st.16:01
skaet_... and wanted to add a big THANK YOU to everyone who contributed to getting A3 out last week!16:02
skaet_cool, lets head into the round table then.16:02
skaet_[Topic] QA team update - marjo16:02
MootBotNew Topic:  QA team update - marjo16:02
marjohi folks16:02
marjolots of topics today16:03
marjo * Natty Alpha 3 Work Items16:03
marjo http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-platform-qa-natty-alpha-3.html16:03
marjo https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardware-kernel-n-bug-handling16:03
marjo bdmurray 100% complete.16:03
marjo https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-qa-n-testing-different-architectures16:03
marjo  [jibel] cleanup subscribers list16:03
marjo Postponed to Beta-1; blocked on confirmation that to build an image, at least a subscriber is needed and that subscriber is committed to test the image.16:03
marjo https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-uec-qa16:03
marjo Marking completed Alpha3 tests. Other work items postponed due to lack of working UEC tools after Alpha 2.16:03
marjo https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubuntutheproject-server-n-qa16:03
marjo Marking completed Alpha3 tests.16:03
marjo * Alpha 3 Test Report16:03
marjo https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/NattyAlpha3TestReport16:03
marjo Summary16:03
marjoTest Coverage16:03
marjo49 contributors have reported 344 results and covered 223 testcases16:03
marjo    * Image Coverage : 100.00% (58/58)16:03
marjo    * Mandatory Test Cases : 100.00% (187/187)16:03
marjo    * Run Once Test Cases : 81.82% (36/44)16:03
marjo    * Overall : 96.54% (223/231)16:03
marjoFailures summary16:04
marjo71 bugs have been reported affecting a total of 74 test cases.16:04
marjo35 Tests failed.16:04
marjo    * Failure Rate: 15.69% (35/223)16:04
marjoBug Tasks Importance16:04
marjo    * Critical : 2 (1 closed)16:04
marjo    * High : 23 (7 closed)16:04
marjo    * Medium : 14 (2 closed)16:04
marjo    * Low : 8 (3 closed)16:04
marjo    * Wishlist : 1 (1 closed)16:04
marjo    * Undecided : 46 (6 closed)16:04
marjoThank you to jibel, smoser, hggdh, pedro_, charlie-tca, kidsodateless, highvoltage, marjo, brendand, ricsipontaz, PatrickDK, patrickmw, PaoloRotolo, nobuto, Kamusin, valix, primes2h, roadmr, pitti, jamiedmattingly, RoAkSoAx, jamespage, monkeylibre, xdatap1, Fly82, Daviey, homitsu and ogra for testing the ISOs.16:04
marjo QA Dashboard16:04
marjo http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html16:04
marjoNote unity and linux are top two packages in both the "Last Day" and "Last 7 Days" metrics.16:04
marjo bug 694596 went from Fix Released to Triaged16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 694596 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) "unity not working on rotated displays" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69459616:04
marjo * Testing status:16:05
marjo Desktop Automated Testing results16:05
marjoNumber of 2D tests: 31016:05
marjoNumber of Unity tests: 28616:05
MootBotLINK received:  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/desktop-testing/natty/16:05
marjoList of bugs found is at the bottom of page.16:05
marjo Server Automated Testing results16:05
marjo 1 failure under investigation by hggdh.16:05
marjo  Automatic Upgrade Testing16:05
marjo  http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/16:05
marjoper mvo,16:05
marjo Ran out of diskspace again. There is an RT ticket pending for a bigger disk and it has been escalated. mvo will remove a few images temporarily or comment out an upgrade - in progress16:05
skaet_Thanks marjo!    and thank you to all the testers who helped us solidify A3!16:06
skaet_lots of good data in there,  and I'll get with you early next week with my questions on the data.   :)16:07
skaet_anyone else?16:07
marjoskaet_ ack16:07
skaet_[Topic] Hardware Certification team update - victorp16:07
MootBotNew Topic:  Hardware Certification team update - victorp16:07
* skaet_ did see a hand earlier... ;)16:08
skaet_ok,  I guess we'll come back to him later...16:09
skaet_[Topic] Security team update - jdstrand16:09
MootBotNew Topic:  Security team update - jdstrand16:09
skaet_jdstrand_,  ^^ ?16:10
* skaet_ wonders if jdstrand_ is talking to victorp ;) 16:11
skaet_moving on...16:11
skaet_[Topic] Kernel team update - apw (or smb?)16:11
MootBotNew Topic:  Kernel team update - apw (or smb?)16:11
* smb hopes to be still in the same universe...16:11
smbOverall status is reported at the first link below.16:11
smbBurn down for the release milestone is at the second link below.16:11
smbBurn down for the cycle is at the third link:16:11
smb[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:11
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:11
MootBotLINK received:16:11
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-natty-alpha-2.html16:12
smbOf the bugs called out on the agenda against the kernel, status is as below:16:12
smb#344878 ecryptfs long filename are not likely to make natty-alpha-2 and moves16:12
MootBotLINK received:16:12
smb        out, we will need to make a decision on disabling this shortly;16:12
smb#539467 SATA alpm is now disabled in userspace, upstream discussions are16:12
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg16:12
smb        ongoing;16:12
smb#542660 (black screen issue) sounds like being back or still there.16:12
smb#625364 expected to be fixed in next kernel16:12
smb#630748 remains waiting on Intel for updated wireless firmware. At least16:12
smb        improving.16:12
smb#636091 still waits testing by the reporter; and16:12
smb#702090 Looks to be and interaction with vesafb and is with upstream. Most16:12
smb        recent feedback suggest that something additional is required to16:12
smb        fix this finally.16:12
smb#712075 partial fix but needs more16:12
smb#717114 has been bisected down to one patch. not sure about upstream discussion16:12
smbThe other bugs seem to be non-kernel packages, status is recorded on our status16:12
smbpage where available (first link above).16:12
smbCurrent kernel 2.6.38-5.32 is based on v2.6.32-rc6. The next pending kernel is16:12
smbcurrently based on 2.6.38-rc7 but seems to introduce an i915 problem/regression:16:12
smb#728672 compiz crashed with SIGSEGV in intel_miptree_image_copy()16:12
bladernrHi, victorp says he's having connection issues and will be here shortly16:12
skaet_thanks smb!16:13
victorp_did I miss something, technical problems16:13
skaet_thanks bladernr for the heads up on victorp16:14
skaet_smb, are you going to post 2.6.38-rc7,  or wait until the issue is resolved?16:14
smbskaet_, apw will look into that. He knows bout the issue and will check before he uploads16:15
smbThere seems to be a patch identified that caused the issue16:15
smbbut I guess wait is the answer.16:15
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* smb wonders whether the network has split16:18
* ogra gets the glue16:18
smbogra, At least this part of the world is still around. :)16:19
ograheh, yeah16:19
ograeurochat :)16:19
* pitti still patiently listening16:19
* victorp is waiting too16:20
* jdstrand is waiting16:20
oubiwannogra: euro and Colorado :-)16:20
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ograoh my16:24
smbanother case for the major crime squad16:24
skatfun with the IRc server today looks like...16:24
skatcan I see a show of hands for who's still on?16:25
smbskat, So I guess you did not get my response16:25
skatsmb, nope16:25
smb<smb> skaet_, apw will look into that. He knows bout the issue and will check before he uploads16:25
smb<smb> There seems to be a patch identified that caused the issue16:25
smb<smb> but I guess wait is the answer.16:25
skatthanks smb16:25
skatanyone else have questions for smb?16:26
skatis cjwatson or someone from foundations around?16:26
skathow about Daviey or zul?16:26
zul[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus16:27
zul[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-server.svg16:27
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/ReleaseStatus16:27
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/natty/canonical-server.svg16:27
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* victorp is still here but needing to leave soon16:27
* skat will call on victorp next...16:28
zulskat: Daviey and I are gonig to be  alternating16:28
pittizul: (for the record: WI tracker moved to ~platform some half year ago)16:28
cjwatsonI'm here16:28
zulpitti: ill update my links then16:28
skatcjwatson, cool,  will call on you after victorp,  IRC is being problematic today16:28
skatzul,  re alternating,  ack.  just let me know at the start.16:29
* ogra wonders if we whould just all send our status in by mail16:29
skatany questions for zul?16:29
skatogra, lets discuss at end.16:30
pittiogra: we already have wiki pages16:30
ograskat, well, i meant instead of waiting for IRc to settle16:30
skat[Topic] Hardware Certification team update -  victorp16:30
victorpAs usual, the report for this week's testing is available at:16:30
victorp[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/current16:30
victorpThe coverage this week was very good, with most of the system reporting16:30
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/hw-testing/current16:30
victorpThree systems didn't report back due to outstanding bugs and/or new bugs:16:30
victorpOutstanding bugs:16:30
victorp[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/70828616:30
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/70828616:30
victorp[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/71137816:30
ubottuUbuntu bug 708286 in linux (Ubuntu) "Resume after suspend not working - Toshiba Tecra R700" [Undecided,New]16:30
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/71137816:31
victorpNew bug:16:31
ubottuUbuntu bug 711378 in compiz (Ubuntu Natty) "after compiz crashed, gnome-panel isn't mapped again" [High,Triaged]16:31
victorp[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/72877216:31
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/72877216:31
ubottuUbuntu bug 728772 in linux (Ubuntu) "e1000e driver fails to establish link (Intel 82578DM) " [Undecided,Confirmed]16:31
victorpOther five systems didn't report results or failed the installation, and16:31
victorpwe are investigating those now.16:31
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skatThanks victorp!16:31
skatAre there any boot time results available for Natty yet?16:32
victorpyes some16:32
skathow does it look?   about the same as maverick, or will there need to be some focus there?16:32
victorp[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/boot-metrics/maverick/20101007/16:33
victorpthat is the baseline from maverick16:33
victorpthe idea is that we will create the results and upload them to people.canonical.com16:33
victorpand QA (marjo) will review them for issues and so on16:34
victorpbut the natty ones are just hot of the press16:34
skatok,  thanks!  :)  will dig into them a bit offline.16:34
victorpskat, does that answer your question?16:34
skatyup.  :)16:34
skatanyone else have questions?16:34
skat[Topic] Foundations team update - cjwatson16:34
cjwatsonMost remaining items are polish on top of existing features now.16:35
cjwatsonFeature-related work over the last week or so:16:35
cjwatson - biosdevname packaged and integrated into installer, providing optional stable network device naming16:35
cjwatson - automatic partitioner redesign16:35
cjwatson - package upgrade/reinstall support when installing over existing partition16:35
cjwatson - software-center weblive prototype16:35
cjwatson - Upstart 0.9.0, with several major features; tests, docs, and fixes still needed; check-config/visualisation likely to land soon16:35
cjwatson - various alpha-3-blocking fixes in light of multiarch dpkg16:35
cjwatsonRebuild test output follows, and could use attention from any developers with spare cycles:16:35
cjwatson  http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110125-natty.html16:35
cjwatsonI've updated the agenda with bug changes.16:36
cjwatson(oh, I moved several things over to other teams when it seemed more appropriate)16:36
skatcjwatson,  thanks!    moving over to other teams if appropriate is welcome.16:37
skatwill look on the agenda for the latest details.16:37
skatothers should feel free to put the bug status on the agenda directly, too.16:37
cjwatsonI'm curious to hear from Linaro how far we intend to go with multiarch dpkg this cycle16:37
cjwatsonI know there are some further proposed changes in the db layout16:37
skatJamieBennett, ^^ ??16:37
cjwatson(the ones I've heard would actually simplify things)16:37
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/boot-metrics/natty/20110302/16:38
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/boot-metrics/maverick/20101007/16:38
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-foundations.html16:39
skat[ACTION] skaet to follow up with JamieBennett / slangasek and get some details about multiarch dpkg for this cycle16:39
skatif no other questions,  will move on....16:40
skat[Topic] Desktop team update - pitti16:40
pittiBlueprint implementation:16:40
pitti * On track for entire cycle16:40
pitti * Alpha-3: had some stragglers, moved to beta-116:40
pitti * beta-1: 17 WIs for our team, 43 for deskop-ish specs which are done by other people16:40
pittiGeneral status:16:40
pitti * Squeezed new unity 3.6.0 into Alpha-3, which brought tons of stability fixes and actually usable dash/applications/files16:40
pitti * No new features aside from Unity. Most people are doing bug fixing now.16:40
pitti * Had to kill 2 langpacks (~ 20 MB) due to new dpkg-repack pulling in dpkg-dev, build-essential, g++. Fixed now, and the extra libreoffice-style-tango will be dropped as well (2.8 MB)16:40
pitti * Firefox translations in langpacks are still broken; currently WIP to bring them back, ETA next week16:40
pittiRC bugs:16:40
pitti * Firefox global menu bar support finally ack'ed by upstream, in natty now16:40
pitti * Details of other bugs at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus#rcbugs16:40
skatThanks pitti!16:41
skatyour work item task list tracking is awesome!16:41
skatany other questions?16:42
skat[Topic] Ubuntu One Team - joshuahoover16:42
pittiskat: rickspencer3 taught me how to make proper whip cracking noises :)16:42
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joshuahoover[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/NattyReleaseStatus16:42
joshuahooverdetails on where we're at with blueprints and releases are in the link above16:42
joshuahooverwe had to file a freeze exception for bindwood (bookmarks sync) so that it works right with firefox 4...updated package should be landing next week: bug #64858716:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 648587 in Bindwood "[FFE] bindwood is incompatible with Firefox 4" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/64858716:42
* jdstrand thinks he got skipped due to the netsplit, but is available16:43
joshuahooverdiscovered we have a new package for universe that we'd like to still get in for natty, bug #729117 - this is to make it easier for devs to access couchdb data on u1 servers16:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 729117 in Ubuntu "[FFE] Add ubuntuone-couch to universe " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72911716:43
joshuahooverthe rest of the work is on bugs, especially those related to the ui or strings...i'm working on making sure all our natty bugs are targeted and marked properly as most are against our upstream projects right now16:43
joshuahooverand that's it for this week for u1 - questions?16:43
* skat will call on jdstrand after, yeah, didn't see you when asked earlier16:43
skatthanks joshuahoover!16:43
skatappreciate the heads up on the FFE coming in.16:44
skatany one else?16:44
skat[Topic] Security team update - jdstrand16:44
jdstrandhi! :)16:44
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jdstrand[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:44
jdstrand[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html16:44
jdstrandWith the exception of working with various people on getting bug #727478 fixed for people upgrading from maverick, there is not a lot to report. Our team focused primarily on stable release updates.16:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 727478 in apparmor (Ubuntu Natty) "mysql upgrade hang at 'installing new version of config file /etc/init/mysql.conf' during upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72747816:45
jdstrandWe have no remaining milestoned features or bugs for beta. We are below the trend line on work items overall. There are some items for micah that aren't related to the security team, and we are getting those addressed so they don't show up on our team reports.16:45
jdstrandI would like to bring bug #728434 up here. I have marked it 'Critical' because the security team won't be able to properly prepare security updates for packages that have a dependency on dbus unless this is fixed.16:45
ubottuLaunchpad bug 728434 in dbus (Ubuntu Natty) "[natty] dbus fails to install in a schroot" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72843416:45
skatjdstrand, thanks!    will keep an eye on 728434 then.16:46
skatany questions?16:46
skat[Topic] Kubuntu Team update - Riddell16:46
* skat see's he's marked away though... so will move on.16:47
skat[Topic] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth16:47
dbarthhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/NattyReleaseStatus as usual16:49
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dbarthso this week we made a last release of unity for a316:49
dbarthand were allowed to land a couple of late features as well; thanks to all those involved16:50
dbarthUnity 3.6 released, including 34 new features or bug fixes: https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.616:50
dbarthcompiz decorator crashers are still a problem we haven't been able to fix16:50
dbarthbut the general trend is looking better: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/unity-stats/16:50
dbarth(from the report)16:50
dbarthi've reviewed the list of bugs on the agenda today, but i'm afraid that most of them haven't seen an update yet (after the frantic release at the beginning of the week)16:51
dbarthwe've worked on identifying the missing bits that we'd like to get FFEs for16:51
dbarthhere is the list:16:51
dbarthdatetime (already accepted)16:51
dbarthcompiz grab handles (accepted)16:51
dbarthplaces a11y16:51
dbarthplaces scrollbar (njpatel: it’s too late to do this)16:52
dbarthcompiz dialog style16:52
dbarthoverlay scrollbar16:52
dbarthmulti-touch support in Unity (but it's stacked on MT itself)16:52
dbarthcompiz mandatory plugins (does that need an FFE?)16:52
dbarthin particular, places a11y has been considered for being postponed16:52
dbarthbut rickspencer3 and Jason brought me back to reason: we'll try a bit to land that16:52
dbarthbut will be cautious not to touch too many parts of the underlying infrastructure to limit the imapct on what's been released and works right now16:53
dbarthie, if we identify a11y gaps that are too "invasive" we may postpone16:53
oubiwannalso, for touch FFEs: libgrip, gesture enabled eog and evince (3 total)16:53
oubiwanntouch has one FFE that's been accepted (mtview)16:53
dbarthluke (themuso) is reviewing how much unity could still be a usable interface without that; or rather which part of places we should focus on to make it work, without touching risky parts16:54
dbarththis is ongoing16:54
dbarth34 bugs or features in the last release; some stats that show that our efforts on quality start to pay: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/unity-stats/16:54
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dbarthqa is now essentially triaging and bug fixing with others; tooling efforts are on hold waiting for some hw cert lab runs to assess whether it's worth finishing for the cycle16:56
skatdbarth thanks!   appreciate the head's up on the FFEs will work with you offline to ease them all in and get a feel for when they are expected to land.  Please feel free to update the agenda itself with the status of the current bugs when you are able to assess them.16:56
dbarthwill do16:56
skatmarjo go16:56
marjo_dbarth: another indicator would be when unity no longer shows up in top 5 packages at: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html16:57
skatheh,  indeed.16:57
dbarthmarjo_: right, and that's a welcome change; thanks ;)16:57
marjo_dbarth: looking forward to it!16:58
dbarthforgot to mention the focus for next week: https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/3.6.216:58
dbarthother questions?16:58
* skat looks around...16:58
skat[Topic] ARM team update - ogra16:58
ograStatus is at:16:59
ogra[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:59
ogra * Bug 705689 is still waiting for a gcc upload, the fix was committed in the linaro tree.16:59
ogra * OMAP4 TI kernel is in its last test phase for the switch from .35 to .38, a PPA binary kernel is being tested right now, switch to the new tree will happen asap.16:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 705689 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) "Qt applications crash with segfault error on armel when Qt is built with gcc 4.5 on natty" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70568916:59
ogra * Bug 727688 FFE for metacity is needed for unity-2d functionality16:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 727688 in metacity (Ubuntu) "FFe request: Adding an auto-maximize option to Metacity" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72768816:59
ogra * Several bugs with the first boot tool for preinstalled images (jasper) showed up during alpha testing, fixes are being worked on.16:59
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:59
ogra * Mono ARM SMP fix: progress is blocked due to Bug: 72153116:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 721531 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) "[armel] gcc computes wrong address for main() at build time" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72153116:59
ogra * ARM specific FTBFS list is shrinking :)16:59
ograImage status:16:59
ogra * A3 was released16:59
ograEntire status: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html16:59
ograMilestone: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel-ubuntu-11.04-beta-1.html16:59
ograSerious Bugs:16:59
ograbug 72821116:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 728211 in webkit (Ubuntu) "webkit crashes with SIGSEGV on ARM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72821116:59
ograbug 61998116:59
ubottuLaunchpad bug 619981 in mono (Ubuntu Natty) "mono apps crash on omap4 due to no smp support for armel" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61998116:59
ograbug 72153116:59
skatThanks ogra!   re: OMAP4 - cool!   when should we expect to see the churn?17:00
ogranext week i hope, GrueMaster is still testing afaik17:01
ograas soon as he gives his go the kernel team will switch17:01
skatogra sounds good.17:01
skatany other questions?17:01
skat[Topic] MOTU team update - ScottK17:02
ScottKNothing significant to report.17:02
skat[Topic] Linaro update - JamieBennett17:02
JamieBennettA3 was released yesterday17:03
JamieBennettwith support for a total of 10 boards17:03
JamieBennettWe will have a new kernel as soon as panda board display issues are sorted17:03
JamieBennettand the multiarch stuff landed17:03
ScottKskat: I can give a Kubuntu report after Linaro is done if you want.17:03
JamieBennettinitial bits are there but more work is needed to get it completely working17:03
ograpanda display should be half way sorted atm17:04
JamieBennettI don't know the exact details of what else is planned but slangasek informs me it will be finished this cycle17:04
ogra(DVI works afaik)17:04
JamieBennettas for that we are plodding along nicely17:04
skatScottK,  that would be great.   will circle back.17:04
JamieBennettogra: right, our kernel disables the display at the moment17:04
skatJamieBennett, Thanks!   Do you have any details on the dpkg multiarch plans for cjwatson?17:05
cjwatsonsounds like not, don't worry, I'll catch up with Steve on the details at some point, it was just curiosity17:05
JamieBennettskat: I saw the comment, as above, I don't know the exact details but I can find out17:06
skatthanks cjwatson, JamieBennett.  offline it is.17:06
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skat[Topic] Kubuntu Team update - ScottK17:06
ScottKThe biggest issues at the moment are Bug #705689 and related to Bug 67308517:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 705689 in gcc-4.5 (Ubuntu Natty) "Qt applications crash with segfault error on armel when Qt is built with gcc 4.5 on natty" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70568917:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 673085 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "Qt/KDE fails to build on ARM without implicit-it=thumb" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67308517:07
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ScottKThere's a test gcc fix in the toolchain PPA we need to investigate.17:07
ScottKQt 4.7.2 was uploaded yesterday.17:07
ScottKKDE SC 4.6.1 is being uploaded today.17:07
ogra\o/ QT 4.7.217:07
ScottKThe kernel for n900 is finally built and waiting in binary New.17:08
ScottK(that's for the Kubuntu Mobile tech preview)17:08
skatThanks ScottK!17:08
skatwill keep an ey on those 2 bugs.    Wondiering how this will interact with  the new toolchain doko's landing.17:09
ScottKThe gcc fix is part of the updated toolchain.17:09
skatany other questions?17:09
ScottKWe're building KDE 4.6.1and Qt with gcc4.4 for the moment.17:09
skatok,  switching over to gcc 4.5 after the fixed version lands, or staying with 4.4 for the release?17:10
ScottKogra: It's Qt.  QT is something completely different.17:10
ScottKskat: 4.5 after it's fixed.17:10
* ogra shrugs17:10
skat[Topic] any other kudos/comments/questions?17:11
skatSorry about the IRC connection this time.   I'll be scrubbing the IRC logs to make sure they match up with what I was seeing, and post a detailed version with the agenda as minutes, if not.17:12
skat[ACTION] skaet to scrub the logs carefully for the minutes and post with the agenda17:12
skatanyone else?17:12
skatThanks everyone for your patience today.17:13
ograthanks skat17:13
skatI'm probably going to need to completely log out and come back in properly as skaet_, to get this meeting to end.    It won't let me change to that nick.   sigh.17:14
pittithanks everyone17:16
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