[00:14] <airtonix> nvm, noobisms strikes, man page reveals all
[00:37] <Jonny5^> does /etc/apt/sources.list count for aptitude as well or just for apt-get?
[00:38] <twb> Jonny5^: yes
[00:38] <Jonny5^> that wasn't an absolute question
[00:40] <Jonny5^> so, the config works for both managers?
[00:44] <Jonny5^> I gather yes. sorry for the stupid question
[00:44] <Jonny5^> mmmh, webmin works
[00:45] <Jonny5^> thanks fellows. I guess I'll have a lot of fun with my new box ^^
[00:51] <twb> !webmin
[00:55] <smoser> lool, i don't use s3 a lot myself. really only for ec2.
[00:56] <Jonny5^> urgs
[00:56] <Jonny5^> but I can manage my cups with it, right?
[00:57] <lool> smoser: Ok; I figured you'd be the one hearing what Ubuntu users care about in terms of packaged tools
[00:57] <smoser> well, the server team has had a "package cloud utils" uds session for the last few
[00:57] <smoser> and we've packaged some
[00:57] <lool> smoser: I was mostly wondering whether there was desire for this in Ubuntu, not from you personally but in general
[00:57] <lool> Ok
[01:22] <nertil> i got update linux firmware ?
[01:22] <nertil> what does this mean
[01:32] <Jonny5^> what's the command to view my command line history?
[01:48] <gratidude> Jonny5^: history
[01:48] <Jonny5^> cool. can I select a specific entry from the history somehow?
[01:50] <gratidude> Jonny5^: !<num>
[01:50] <Jonny5^> thanks! I really love this command line stuff
[01:51] <gratidude> Jonny5^: have fun! :)
[01:51] <Jonny5^> unthinkable, the times when I used to admin windows machines with mouse clicks ^^
[01:51] <Jonny5^> thx :)
[01:52] <Jonny5^> now I've just gotta get this printer working
[01:59] <mpn> Hello, any new about ubuntu clustering?
[02:01] <nertil> is it possible to setup my username nertil to be logeed all the time in ubuntu server?
[02:02] <zeknox> nertil: yes
[02:03] <zeknox> nertil: explain the purpose please?
[02:10] <nertil> zeknox
[02:10] <zeknox> nertil: yes
[02:11] <nertil> well i run pisg statistics
[02:11] <nertil> every time i am loged in the ubuntu server pisg can update
[02:11] <nertil> if im not pisg cannot update
[02:11] <nertil> it says this
[02:11] <nertil> a/home/nertil/pisg-0.72/pisg an error occured: Couldn't execute "/home/nertil/pisg-0.72/pisg": no such file or directory
[02:11] <zeknox> nertil: how often do you reboot the server?
[02:12] <zeknox> nertil: have you tried setting up a cron job?
[02:12] <nertil> yes i can with cron but i loose the msg that bot displays in channel
[02:12] <nertil> it worked just well this days
[02:15] <zeknox> nertil: not sure man
[02:16] <nertil> what about my username be loged in non stop?
[02:16] <zeknox> I would just log it into the console and not reboot the server
[02:17] <nertil> maybe this have to do with rights?
[02:17] <nertil> i need to set some rights
[02:21] <zeknox> nertil: why does it think the file or directory does not exist, does it exist and what user is trying to execute it, do they have permision to view and execute it?
[02:22] <nertil> i dont know
[02:22] <nertil> i added 777 to everything
[02:22] <nertil> to execute or access
[02:23] <nertil> when im loged in the box with nertil
[02:23] <nertil> everything is okey
[02:23] <nertil> if i logof
[02:23] <nertil> the error shows
[02:23] <zeknox> who is executing it?  what user?
[02:24] <nertil> nertil
[02:24] <nertil> how can i do everyone can execute it
[02:24] <zeknox> 777
[02:25] <nertil> -rwxrwxrwx 1 nertil nertil   5329 2008-02-13 21:40 pisg
[02:26] <zeknox> nertil: what if you have a cronjob output to a file with redirector > so you can get the messages?
[02:26] <nertil> well i dont like cron
[02:26] <nertil> it was just okay
[02:26] <nertil> dont know whats messed up
 !stats
 Stats Updated: http://pisg.nertil.info
[02:26] <nertil> i was in box
[02:26] <nertil> im out
 !stats
 /home/nertil/pisg-0.72/pisg an error occured: Couldn't execute "/home/nertil/pisg-0.72/pisg": no such file or directory
[02:31] <nertil> weird right?
[02:31] <nertil> :))
[02:34] <zeknox> yeah not sure what to tell ya
[02:34] <zeknox> not familiar with the program
[02:38] <nertil> well i think that is because my
[02:38] <nertil> home folder nertil
[02:38] <nertil> is encrypted
[02:38] <zeknox> now you tell us that
[02:38] <zeknox> and it needs the authentication to unencrypt
[02:38] <zeknox> move that script and shit to a folder that is unencrypted
[02:39] <zeknox> you should never be running anything from your home dir best practices say
[02:39] <zeknox> /etc/pisg/pisg-0.72
[02:39] <zeknox> that is what I would do
[02:39] <nertil> can u tell me how to move it to /etc/?
[02:41] <zeknox> sure
[02:41] <zeknox> lets start with a little 'mkdir /etc/nertil
[02:41] <zeknox> '
[02:41] <zeknox> wihtout quotes of course
[02:43] <zeknox> mkdir /etc/nertile               <-- this will make the folder than we can move it in there
[02:43] <nertil> yep
[02:43] <nertil> wait
[02:43] <nertil> i think i copied
[02:43]  * zeknox is waiting......
[02:43] <zeknox> nertil: you may need to sudo
[02:44] <nertil> i fixed
[02:44] <nertil> :))
[02:44] <nertil> it works now
[02:44] <nertil> i did folder /var/etc
[02:44] <nertil> and copyed pisg there
[02:44] <nertil> at last
[02:44] <nertil> :))
[02:44] <zeknox> we did it!!!
[02:44] <zeknox> I knew exactly what the prob was when you said encryption
[02:45] <nertil> thumbs UP!
[02:45] <zeknox> pwnin' nubs!
[07:34] <TomTom> good morning! i am booting from the 10.10 64bit server iso and missing the driver for the 3ware 9750. which is called 3w-sas, how to allow to load this module during installation?
[07:38] <andreasf> TomTom: Have a look at /etc/modules :-)
[07:51] <TomTom> andreasf: there is no /etc/modules when booting the installer
[07:52] <TomTom> i also tried to use the expert mode to see if i could get somehow the "scsi-extra-modules". but there was no such option
[07:55] <Corleone> hi, how do i get my ubuntu 10.04 server to connect to my router using WEP, when i disable WEP it works fine, but it doesn't connect when enabled, any ideas?
[07:58] <andreasf> TomTom: Ah, sorry. I misread. I thought the module doesn't get loaded at boot *after* installation.
[07:58] <TomTom> AAAAAAAAAAAAAHG! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/707303
[07:59] <TomTom> is it possible to use the installer of 11.xx but installing 10.10 ?
[08:02] <ajith_kgs> I am having trouble with my UEC. When i try to run instances, it says "running" but I cannot connect to it though i have given permission for my default security group using euca-authorize. Further investigation lead me to the empty console.log in my nc. Please advice..
[08:03] <ajith_kgs>  I am having trouble with my UEC. When i try to run instances, it says "running" but I cannot connect to it though i have given permission for my default security group using euca-authorize. Further investigation lead me to the empty console.log in my nc. Please advice..
[08:07] <ajith_kgs> can anyone help me
[08:09] <ajith_kgs>  I am having trouble with my UEC. When i try to run instances, it says "running" but I cannot connect to it though i have given permission for my default security group using euca-authorize. Further investigation lead me to the empty console.log in my nc. Please advice..
[08:10] <TomTom> are you a bot? repeating does not increase the chance of help, it raises the level of ignorance
[08:10] <ajith_kgs> sorry
[08:22] <Corleone> hi, how do i get my ubuntu 10.04 server to connect to my router using WEP, when i disable WEP it works fine, but it doesn't connect when enabled, any ideas?
[09:19] <SpamapS> jamespage: ping?
[10:10] <jamespage> SpamapS: pong (but guess you might be in bed :-))
[10:27] <TomTom> its really a major pain to install ubuntu using a 3ware 9570. 10.04-2 server is 2.6.32-28 which conflicts with the 3ware provided drivers for 2.6.32-24, and 10.10 normally should contain the drivers but it was "forgotten" to include them... where do i get the current 3w-sas.ko which is compatible with the kernel provided by the 10.10 ?
[10:32] <SpamapS> jamespage: actually I'm in SAST (UTC+2) ... :)
[10:32] <jamespage> SpamapS: sprinting?
[10:32] <SpamapS> jamespage: so, zookeeper needs some love .. wondering if you've looked at it
[10:32] <jamespage> lemme finish up some ec2 testing stuff and I'll take a look.
[10:32] <jamespage> whats the current issue?
[10:36]  * jamespage takes a look for SpamapS
[11:00] <[diablo]> good morning all... I am looking to recruit an Ubuntu systems administrator for London.
[11:01] <[diablo]> if anyone is interested please private message me
[11:03] <RoyK> wouldn't advertising the regular way be better?
[11:03] <[diablo]> RoyK, I can not find exactly what I require ... too many RHEL guys with no Ubuntu experience
[11:04] <[diablo]> RoyK, hence mentioning it here .... also if at all possible I would like to place an announcement in the forums
[11:04] <shauno> [diablo]: you may want to look into mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/linuxjobs
[11:04] <[diablo]> hi shauno many thanks ! I will check that
[11:05] <shauno> probably a better use of time than hoping a significant amount of the 280 people in here are anywhere near london
[11:05] <[diablo]> shauno, I knew it would be a long shot, but still one I feel is worth trying, no harm
[11:29] <SpamapS> jamespage: the issue is that the latest version isn't packaged, and zookeeper was removed from Debian squeeze .. we need to bug them to package the new one and maybe even provide a patch for that.
[11:31] <jamespage> SpamapS: did a bit of digging - the reason it was removed from squeeze was that the maintainer was unable to continue working on it
[11:31] <jamespage> see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=602694
[11:31] <SpamapS> jamespage: good opportunity for you to join the debian java package maintainer team
[11:31] <jamespage> and some other misc issues
[11:32] <jamespage> SpamapS: so I did discuss this briefly with mathiaz
[11:32] <jamespage> ages back
[11:33] <SpamapS> jamespage: Its a key component of Ensemble so you'll probably be pinged again soon about it. :)
[11:33] <jamespage> my understanding was that the zookeeper (and hadoop) packages are not great as they stand
[11:33] <jamespage> he was working with upstream (cloudera)  to resolve this issue (but I suspect no longer)
[11:34] <jamespage> i.e. align the best upstream to Ubuntu/Debian so build from source becomes easier
[11:35] <SpamapS> Well the package works fine.. just needs to be well maintained
[11:36] <jamespage> or maintained at all; I'll take a deeper look once I've got some of my immediate workload out of the way
[11:37] <SpamapS> Yeah nothing immediate.. just an FYI really
[11:37] <jamespage> I'm seriously lacking in zookeeper experience so I will try to swat up on that as well
[11:38] <Daviey> jamespage, Can i jump on you about something else? :)   What is the process for getting a java applet signed?
[11:42]  * jamespage looks for a good howto
[11:43] <jamespage> Daviey: whats the context?
[11:43] <Daviey> jamespage, getting NX java applet to not show a warning.
[11:44] <jamespage> ah - that old chesnut
[11:45] <Daviey> it is signed... but untrusted... so assume they didn't use a valid CA?
[11:45]  * Daviey has NFI about signing java applets
[11:45] <jamespage> So its really self-signed - i.e. there is no trust path to a good 3rd party
[11:46] <Daviey> guess so!
[11:48] <jamespage> Well the process is normally as you would for say a web server certificate.
[11:49] <jamespage> Albeit a few jar specific bits and pieces.
[11:53] <jamespage> Daviey: this might help http://download.oracle.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/plugin/developer_guide/rsa_signing.html
[11:57] <Daviey> jamespage, thanks!
[12:09] <phoenixsampras> help, how to setup a email server with smtp and imap and webmail?
[12:15] <oCean> !mta
[12:18] <phoenixsampras> does postfix supports mailing lists?
[12:20] <Daviey> SpamapS, re-basing your sysvinit patch.... again
[12:21] <shauno> phoenixsampras: you can have multiple recipients for an alias, which sort of does the job, but you'll likely do better with dedicated mailman / majordomo type jobs
[12:21] <Daviey> SpamapS, uploading http://pb.daviey.com/IoR5/raw/ ok?
[12:27] <phoenixsampras> oh nice
[12:27] <phoenixsampras> ok , ill setup a Ubuntu server now!
[12:27] <phoenixsampras> im sick of centos
[12:28] <laen> Heretic.
[14:06] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:18] <jibel_> hggdh, jamespage , I pushed alternate iso testing to usit. Can you please review the packaging part ? thanks
[14:39] <jamespage> jibel_: ack - will look in a bit
[14:40] <jamespage> hggdh, smoser: around?
[14:40] <smoser> here
[14:40] <jamespage> smoser: cool; something to show you
[14:40] <jamespage> http://ec2-174-129-162-244.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8080/
[14:41] <jamespage> so this is a test Jenkins setup for executing the ec2 testing.
[14:42] <jamespage> tests (read jobs in Jenkins) are aligned to the test cases as tracker in the ISO tracker.
[14:43] <jamespage> it does *work* (i.e. it runs up charges on my aws account) so I've not splurged on running tests yet
[14:43] <jamespage> but I have run 1 low cost one so you can see the type of output you get
[14:44] <smoser> jamespage, dude, that absolutely RULES
[14:44] <jamespage> smoser: it will run multi instance testing as well; tested but on lower than normal volumes
[14:45] <jamespage> smoser: can you take a look at http://ec2-174-129-162-244.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8080/job/natty_ec2_us-east-1_cloud-config/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/us-east-1a/i386/m1.small/instance-store/i-0b050267/d91deda5-11c0-45c7-9c4f-64d528016a17-terminated.console.txt/*view*/
[14:45] <smoser> volumes ?
[14:45] <jamespage> so I ran it using t1.micros - 5 instances rather than 10
[14:45] <jamespage> thats not setup in this config - I did that from the command line.
[14:45] <smoser> you're seeing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/728167
[14:46] <smoser> and our archives being hosed in ec2 at the moment
[14:46] <smoser> (although they should be getting fixed)
[14:46] <jamespage> yeah - I has going to ask about archives
[14:46] <smoser> the real problem is that archives are messed up, and so cloud-init failed the update and then did not install packages
[14:46] <smoser> so i've changed that in trunk so that it will *try* to install the packages
[14:46] <smoser> but thats not guaranteed to work
[14:47] <jamespage> nice - I used cloud-init on natty to setup this test instance of jenkins - worked real sweet for me.
[14:47] <jamespage> generation of jobs is also automated.
[14:48] <jamespage> and when you submit a job (which you need to login todo) you can specify a build number (for candidate testing)
[14:49] <jamespage> (its also the built from source for Ubuntu Jenkins BTW :-))
[14:50] <jamespage> smoser: so next time we do a round of testing it would be good to try it here as well - I'll talk to robbiew about potential extra costs.
[14:51] <smoser> jamespage, thank you very much for your work on this.
[14:51] <smoser> its $50 or so to run the tests, not a huge deal
[14:51] <smoser> i think its just $8 to run the i386 tests on all regions even.
[14:51] <smoser> something like that
[14:52] <eMgz> I want to opan a GRE over IPsec tunnel between two vpns, I can see my packets going from my subnet through the GRE tunnel interface, but they are not reaching the eth0 interface, what am I missing?
[14:52] <jamespage> smoser: np - I've really enjoyed getting the exposure to boto and ec2/aws
[14:52] <smoser> but anyway, i do want to look at the test suite you have going a bit more and help out with making it better.
[14:53] <jamespage> thanks
[14:53] <jamespage> I've tried to mimic what your scripts did as much as possible; going to put together some wiki pages to explain....
[15:01] <jamespage> jibel_ : usit merge approved and uploaded to testing PPA
[15:02] <jibel_> jamespage, great! thx
[15:03] <jamespage> jibel_: np
[15:17] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: Morning!!
[15:17] <RoAkSoAx> hggdh: so I think after the testing I did yesterday it would be safe to invalidate the powernap/euca bug
[15:17] <RoAkSoAx> as you couldn't reproduce the error either
[15:24] <hggdh> RoAkSoAx, I agree. I would say whatever the issue was, it got auto-resolved on the newer build(s)
[15:25] <hggdh> jamespage, I am also here, sort of late answer to your ping
[15:26] <jamespage> hggdh: read above and take a look at http://ec2-174-129-162-244.compute-1.amazonaws.com:8080/
[15:27] <hggdh> jamespage, already there :-)
[15:27] <hggdh> jamespage, *very* cool
[15:28]  * jamespage reserves the right to run any jobs for the time being....
[15:34] <hggdh> jamespage, oh, why?
[15:34] <hggdh> :-)
[15:34] <jamespage> :-) using my access keys....
[15:37] <hggdh> jamespage, you might like to run one test on the super-extra-humongously-large type they now have, I hear it is less than $10k per hour...
[15:38] <jamespage> hggdh: nice - guess that one won't be in the normal test cases then
[15:39] <hggdh> jamespage, well, I can guarantee you it will not...
[16:01] <orudie> how can I get my ubuntu server to resolve the right IPs of local machines that are located on the same LAN ?
[16:02] <orudie> i figured out the hostnames that are static, by adding them in hosts file, but how about DHCP clients ?
[16:02] <orudie> or DHCP hostnames
[16:05] <air^> orudie: that's for your local dns to handle
[16:06] <orudie> air^, do you mean I have to put a local DNS server in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[16:07] <air^> orudie: I mean, if you want to resolve ip's, you need something to resolve them from.
[16:07] <air^> orudie: so, what are you trying to do? :)
[16:07] <orudie> air^, taking care of DNS on my LAN here
[16:07] <compdoc> my firewall provides dns, and has a page where you define local hosts
[16:07] <air^> if you have your own dns, then yes, that's what you should use.
[16:08] <air^> orudie: and what is your dhcp server? a regular router?
[16:08] <orudie> air^, the local DNS is handled by win 2008 DC , will that be compatible with ubuntu server ?
[16:08] <orudie> DHCP server is dd-wrt
[16:09] <air^> orudie: ok, so what are your dhcp clients and what are you trying to achieve?
[16:09] <compdoc> the dns service in windows server works well
[16:10] <compdoc> just dont use wins
[16:10] <orudie> compdoc, i'm not using wins
[16:10] <air^> orudie: what names is it you want to resolve?
[16:10] <orudie> air^, achieve? nothing in particular, just want to make sure that my DNS is right.
[16:11] <orudie> air^, DHCP names
[16:11] <air^> orudie: DHCP gives out a free IP. what name would you like it to have?
[16:11] <air^> orudie: are you talking about unique names dedicated to the machine, or a unique name locked to the IP?
[16:11] <orudie> air^, like mike-pc
[16:12] <air^> orudie: in that case, give the machines dedicated ip's instead of dhcp, and set it up in DNS?
[16:12] <air^> orudie: or use dd-wrt's static dhcp mapping?
[16:13] <air^> orudie: DNS is when you map a hostname to an ip. not when an ip automatically resolves an hostname from a random machine and maps itself to it.
[16:14] <air^> +to
[16:25] <orudie> air^, let me check what I have set up in DNS in ESXi host where this Ubuntu Server resides
[16:42] <mgorak> Does anyone know if the --tmpfs option is still available with vm-builder on ubuntu 10.10
[16:43] <mgorak> As I am running into errors while trying to execute a build with this option
[16:54] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: I'm working on your script btw
[16:55] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Good... I'm  not proud of that code.
[16:55] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: hahah now worries, as long as it works... :)
[16:56] <Daviey-> :)
[16:56] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, have you tried it?
[16:57] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: yeah! I like it though I'm merging download/test together and adding the possibility to specify user and release
[16:57] <RoAkSoAx> and then save to a file
[16:57] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, cool
[16:57] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Gotta love the screen scraping?
[16:57] <Daviey-> :)
[16:58] <RoAkSoAx> hehe
[16:59] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, The bug i quoted the other day was wrong, the bug that means you can use the API is bug #610491
[16:59] <Daviey-> "not a priority" i was told
[16:59] <RoAkSoAx> too bad
[16:59] <RoAkSoAx> i don't think it is that hard either
[17:00] <RoAkSoAx> we should probably provide a patch ourselves
[17:26] <Corleone> hi, i cant get my ubuntu connect to my router using WEP, but it has no problem connecting when WEP is off, any ideas??
[17:43] <ivoks> Corleone: server? or desktop?
[17:44] <cerealkllr> smoser, ping
[17:45] <Corleone> server
[17:45] <ivoks> Corleone: you are using wpa_supplicant?
[17:50] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, smoser is afk... can anyone else help?
[17:53] <cerealkllr> Daviey-, I'm looking at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/615442
[17:57] <cerealkllr> there seem to be two issues here. A messed up import and the fact that we dump the python admin tools in /usr/sbin/ along with the rest of the eucalyptus scripts
[17:58] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, yeah... i'm familar with that bug
[17:58] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, IIRC a python setup.py was sent to you chaps?
[17:59] <Corleone> ivoks: what do u mean?
[17:59] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, you know bug #717166 is causing the most pain atm?
[18:00] <ivoks> Corleone: what tools do you use to connect server to wifi network?
[18:00] <cerealkllr> Daviey-, yep, nurmi is looking into it
[18:00] <Corleone> just iwconfig
[18:01] <ivoks> Corleone: is packages 'wpasupplicant' installed?
[18:01] <ivoks> package
[18:01] <Corleone> how do i check?
[18:01] <ivoks> dpkg -l | grep wpasupplicant
[18:02] <ivoks> or, oh, just:
[18:02] <ivoks> dpkg -l wpasupplicant
[18:02] <Corleone> yes its installed
[18:02] <RoAkSoAx> cerealkllr: Daviey- Correct me if I'm wrong but regardless of whether there's a setup.py or not, those files can be installed in usr/share/pyshared and the packaging should handle it by itself and install the files where they should or symlink to /usr/lib/python2.7/<...>
[18:03] <laen> You're running a server and have no idea how (from the huge amount of ways to do that) to check if you have a package installed. Maybe you shouldn't run that server.
[18:03] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Oh aye, it was just a damn amount easier to run a dh rule
[18:03] <Corleone> ivoks: wait, it displays it, but how do i know its installed, its a bit confusing
[18:03] <ivoks> Corleone: are you passing the key is hex?
[18:03] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, equally... running python-central or similar is a pain in the butt manually
[18:03] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, last cycle ran out of time to fix it properly
[18:03] <ivoks> Corleone: are you passing the key in hex?
[18:03] <Corleone> ivoks: yes
[18:04] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Patches welcome :)
[18:04] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: not really i can take a look at it though :)
[18:04] <RoAkSoAx> will do
[18:04] <ivoks> Corleone: try s:string
[18:04] <Corleone> i did, didnt work
[18:04]  * RoAkSoAx enjoys python pacging
[18:04] <RoAkSoAx> packaging*
[18:04] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, Awesome... merge proposal ready for Monday morning UTC? @:)
[18:04] <Corleone> ivoks: how do i know its installed, wpasupplicant, it lists it, but the output is confusing
[18:04] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: ehhe will start taking a look post launch... i'm off to launch :)
[18:04] <ivoks> Corleone: it should start with ii
[18:05] <Corleone> ohhh yes it does
[18:05] <ivoks> but wpasupplicatn is just for wpa/wpa2 (i just realized that)
[18:05] <Corleone> yep, i need WEP
[18:05] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, it probably makes sense to split it out into a seperate  binary package of python-eucalyptus-admin or similar
[18:05] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, lemme see if i can find the setup.py
[18:06] <Corleone> ivoks: brb
[18:06] <ivoks> Corleone: do you get an error when issuing iwconfig command?
[18:06] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey-: oki, post it in the bug
[18:06]  * RoAkSoAx will be back
[18:06] <RoAkSoAx> later
[18:07] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, found the mail - http://pb.daviey.com/ZcRO/raw/
[18:07] <Daviey-> RoAkSoAx, ^^
[18:15] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, Regarding the dhcpd bug, has nurmi started it?  I'm happy to help if he can push a scratch branch somewhere?
[18:16] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, It's just that this bug is really blocking us.
[18:52] <Corleone> ivoks: you there?
[18:52] <ivoks> Corleone: yes
[18:52] <ivoks> Corleone: but only for couple of minutes
[18:52] <Corleone> oh ok
[18:53] <ivoks> Corleone: did iwconfig return an error?
[18:53] <Corleone> i got no error when i issue the iwconfig
[18:53] <ivoks> Corleone: how about /var/log/syslog
[18:53] <Corleone> how do i access it
[18:54] <ivoks> less /var/log/syslog.2.gz
[18:54] <cerealkllr> Daviey-, yeah I think nurmi is working on it
[18:54] <ivoks> argh
[18:54] <ivoks> less /var/log/syslog
[18:54] <cerealkllr> Daviey-, I'll ping him for an update
[18:54] <Daviey-> cerealkllr, super, thanks
[18:54] <Corleone> ivoks: yeah, okay
[18:54] <Corleone> done
[18:55] <ivoks> well, look for errorss
[18:56] <Corleone> ivoks: okay im rebooting
[18:56] <ivoks> ?
[18:56] <Corleone> the server
[18:56] <ivoks> why?
[18:56] <Corleone> cos i issued loads of commands in the mean time, too many errors lol
[18:56] <Corleone> i got the iwconfig at bootup anyway
[18:56] <ivoks> open one terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog'
[18:57] <ivoks> and then issue commands in another terminal
[18:57] <ivoks> note that logs have timestamps :)
[18:57] <ivoks> anyway, i have to go now
[18:57] <Corleone> okay
[18:58] <knoxy> Hi all.. After I upgrade my ubuntu server 9.10 to ubuntu 10.04, I get this message: http://img820.imageshack.us/f/capturadetela2m.png/
[18:58] <knoxy> Please, somebody help-me
[18:58] <knoxy> my MySQL Server is down...
[18:59] <ivoks> knoxy: system doesn't see your disk
[19:00] <ivoks> knoxy: look if there's /dev/disk/by-label/c513c*
[19:00] <ivoks> errr
[19:00] <Corleone> ivoks: dhclient cant get an offer
[19:00] <ivoks> knoxy: /dev/disk/by-uuid/c513c*
[19:00] <Corleone> no DHCLIENTOFFERS received
[19:00] <knoxy> ivoks, I'm trying do boot with live cd... and I can see this uuid
[19:01] <ivoks> knoxy: no, not live cd, but the system
[19:01] <ivoks> knoxy: when it fails, you are in busybox, from which you can do some debugging
[19:01] <knoxy> ivoks, man, please, how can I do to fix it??
[19:02] <ivoks> didn't i just tell you what to do?
[19:02] <knoxy> the system has running normally since 8 am
[19:02] <knoxy> 14:00pm the system crash..
[19:02] <ivoks> did you boot the system into busybox?
[19:03] <ivoks> it's 20PM over here, it's friday
[19:03] <knoxy> ivoks, this debug is of the mysql machine
[19:03] <ivoks> your time is ticking... i'm about to go out :)
[19:03] <Corleone> lol
[19:03] <ivoks> remove the live CD, boot the system
[19:03] <knoxy> ivoks, ok..
[19:03] <ivoks> wait for it to not boot and enter busybox
[19:04] <ivoks> then look if there is /dev/disk/by-uuid/c513c*
[19:04] <knoxy> hmmm
[19:04] <ivoks> ppetraki: hi ;)
[19:04] <knoxy> ivoks, how?
[19:04] <ivoks> ls
[19:04] <ppetraki> ivoks, miss me?
[19:04] <ivoks> ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/c513c*
[19:04] <ivoks> ppetraki: always :) got a new ...?
[19:06] <knoxy> ivoks, http://img69.imageshack.us/f/capturadetela3w.png/
[19:07] <ivoks> knoxy: try mount /dev/disk/by-uuid/c513... /root
[19:07] <knoxy> ivoks, Invalid argument
[19:07] <RoyK> erm ... mounting dev on /root/dev?
[19:07] <RoyK> sounds like a rather bad idea to me
[19:08] <ivoks> looks like your FS got screwed
[19:08] <ivoks> RoyK: busybox
[19:08] <RoyK> shouldn't busybox use /dev as well?
[19:08] <ivoks> what's important here is that he cannot mount his root partition
[19:09] <knoxy> RoyK, try to mount in /dev ?
[19:09] <ivoks> his filesystem is broken probably
[19:09] <knoxy> ivoks, so, I try to run the live cd to run fsck
[19:09] <knoxy> because I think the FS is screwed
[19:09] <ivoks> knoxy: that would be the next step, yes
[19:09] <RoyK> knoxy: did you configure this busybox setup yourself?
[19:10] <knoxy> RoyK, yes
[19:10] <RoyK>  /root is just user root's homedir
[19:10] <RoyK> dev should be mounted on /dev
[19:10] <RoyK> same with proc and sys
[19:10] <ivoks> RoyK: man
[19:10] <ivoks> RoyK: it's busybox
[19:10] <ivoks> RoyK: it mounts filesystems inside /root
[19:10] <ivoks> RoyK: then does chroot or pivot_root
[19:11] <RoyK> oh
[19:11] <RoyK> ok
[19:11] <ivoks> and then boots the system
[19:11] <RoyK> didn't know that
[19:11] <ivoks> it's initrd
[19:11] <ivoks> anyway, i won't be here to wait for fsck results :)
[19:11] <ivoks> i'm off to get some beer :)
[19:12] <knoxy> ivoks, RoyK look the 'ls -l'
[19:12] <knoxy> http://img848.imageshack.us/f/capturadetela4.png/
[19:12] <RoyK> ivoks: I guess /etc/init.d/udevtrigger must be started first to create those /dev//disk/by-uuid entries
[19:12] <knoxy> look the size
[19:12] <RoyK> either that or use device names directly instead of uuids
[19:12] <ivoks> RoyK: look at /etc/initramfs-tools/ ;)
[19:13] <ivoks> knoxy: boot live cd and check the disk
[19:13] <ivoks> maybe your disk died
[19:13] <ivoks> in a strange way
[19:13] <ivoks> stupid me
[19:13] <ivoks> knoxy: those are links
[19:14] <ivoks> knoxy: just fsck your filesystem
[19:14] <knoxy> look man
[19:14] <knoxy> when I try to run the fsck
[19:14] <knoxy> http://img215.imageshack.us/f/capturadetela1l.png/
[19:14] <knoxy> reiserfsck --rebuild-tree /dev/sda1
[19:14] <knoxy> and all of parameters hehe
[19:14] <ivoks> reiser?!
[19:15] <ivoks> you were just looking for the trouble, weren't you? :)
[19:15] <RoyK> wifekillerfs...
[19:15] <soren> http://blog.calcifer.com.ar/uploads/2007/07/jitcrunch.jpg
[19:16] <soren> Favourite reiserfs t-shirt.
[19:16] <ivoks> knoxy: looks like a broken disk, run some S.M.A.R.T diagnostics
[19:16] <soren> ivoks: From the looks of it, this is a virtual machine.
[19:16] <ivoks> soren: :)
[19:16] <soren> ivoks: They don't often do SMART.
[19:16] <ivoks> soren: good catch :)
[19:16] <knoxy> ivoks, SMART disgnostics?
[19:17] <ivoks> knoxy: ignore
[19:17] <ivoks> check your VM host
[19:17] <ivoks> or at leat fdisk -l /dev/sda
[19:17] <ivoks> least
[19:17] <knoxy> in live cd?
[19:17] <ivoks> errr
[19:18] <ivoks> did you prepend sudo to reiserfsck?
[19:18] <knoxy> yes
[19:18]  * RoyK would /never/ use reiserfs for an embedded machine
[19:18] <ivoks> does 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda' works?
[19:19] <knoxy> RoyK, thanks]
[19:19] <knoxy> ivoks, no
[19:19] <ivoks> i would never use resierfs.
[19:19] <knoxy> the same error
[19:19] <knoxy> "exited by code 6"
[19:19] <ivoks> knoxy: then your virtualization is broken
[19:19] <RoyK> _LM_: cat /proc/partitions
[19:19] <RoyK> erm
[19:19] <RoyK> knoxy: that was for you (cat...)
[19:19] <ivoks> maybe out of space or something
[19:20] <ivoks> by the looks, that's windows
[19:20] <ivoks> soren: so, how are you?
[19:21] <knoxy> ivoks, in VM host: 145GB free
[19:21] <ivoks> then something else broke... but your VM isn't passing the working disk to the virtualized guest
[19:21] <ivoks> so, go figure :)
[19:22] <ivoks> take care... beer time
[19:23] <RoyK> whoever said beer time is incompatible with hacking :þ
[19:23] <Corleone> hi, i cant get my ubuntu connect to my router using WEP, but it has no problem connecting when WEP is off, any ideas??
[19:27] <RoyK> Corleone: using ubuntu server with a wireless card?
[19:27] <Corleone> yes
[19:27] <Corleone> at least for now
[19:27] <RoyK> dunno - I've done it with WPA/PSK
[19:28] <RoyK> WEP isn't very good
[19:28] <RoyK> 40bit WEP is cracked in seconds/minutes, 128bit WEP takes a little longer, but is still very insecure
[19:28] <RoyK> WPA2/PSK is quite good
[19:28] <RoyK> or old WPA/PSK
[19:28] <Corleone> yep, i know, but i need to connect my server to my router
[19:29] <knoxy> ivoks, RoyK I revert to my current snapshot...
[19:29] <knoxy> and now, the machine is ok
[19:29] <RoyK> k
[19:29] <knoxy> but, it's a MySQL guest..
[19:29] <knoxy> all data of the day has been lost
[19:30] <RoyK> backup's for cowards
[19:33] <RoyK> knoxy: if you're experimenting on a live server, keep backups updated
[19:35] <knoxy> RoyK, yes.. this experience changes my mind :/
[19:35] <knoxy> thanks for the support
[19:48] <nertil> how to decrypt encrypted username folder on ubuntu?
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> you... cant?
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> at least i dont think you can
[19:48] <nertil> okey
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> i'm probly wrong though
[19:48] <RoyK> nertil: setup 100+ machines to bruteforce the password :D
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> so you should wait for the rest of the people :P
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> lol
[19:48] <EvilPhoenix> what RoyK said
[19:49] <nertil> RoyK
[19:49] <nertil> im the owner of that userna
[19:49] <nertil> im the owner of that username
[19:49] <RoyK> sure, I'm just saying all you can do is to bruteforce it
[19:49] <RoyK> it's safe
[19:49] <RoyK> secure
[19:49] <RoyK> etc
[19:49] <nertil> so icant decrypt at all
[19:49] <RoyK> if you buy a good iron safe and lose the key, well, you need to force it open
[19:50] <nertil> okey than can u tell me how to copy/paste a folder to other unencrypted username?
[19:50] <nertil> RoyK i can open
[19:50] <nertil> i want to remove that decryption option
[19:50] <RoyK> the encryption option, you mean?
[19:50] <nertil> i dont want my username to be encrypted
[19:50] <nertil> so i want to remove encryption
[19:51] <nertil> i can open cause i know the password
[19:51] <RoyK> if so, mount the filesystem, do a cp -a /path/to/encrypted/fs /new/path/on/unencrypted/storage
[19:51] <RoyK> then remove the encrypted filesystem
[19:51] <nertil> ok
[19:51] <nertil> can u tell me how to copy/paste a folder from encrypted username to another?
[19:51] <RoyK> man cp
[19:51] <RoyK> it's like copying from anywhere else
[19:52] <RoyK> so long as the encrypted filesystem is mounted, it's readable for all the system
[19:52] <RoyK> or at least for whoever has access there
[19:59] <soren> ivoks: Busy :(
[19:59] <soren> ivoks: I'm preparing for a talk tomorrow. People are drinking beer, I'm stuck in my hotel room.
[20:03] <soren> ivoks: And you?
[20:04] <soren> ivoks: I never understand a thing of the stuff you write on Facebook. You could have been to the moon for all I know :)
[20:04] <lool> Hmm I'm puzzled: this works python -c 'import boto; c=boto.connect_s3(); print c.get_all_buckets()'
[20:04] <lool> but it doesn't work with ipython, or wihin bpython
[20:04] <soren> How does it fail?
[20:05] <soren> lool: ^
[20:14] <lool> soren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/575678/
[20:14] <lool> I get other weird failures with other functions
[20:21] <Daviey> SpamapS, around?
[20:40] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ok so I was looking at the packaging and wondering if there's a setup.py, i believe it should handle the installation of everything rather than just the installation of the python related stuff, so I think we'll have to adjust the packaging to install the python files themselves
[20:44] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, Did you not see my pastebin entry ^^ with a setup.py?
[20:45] <Daviey> Also, you need to patch out the installing of the py's in the ant stuff
[20:47] <lool> soren: the actual error is: <Error><Code>AccessDenied</Code><Message>AWS authentication requires a valid Date or x-amz-date header</Message><RequestId>D8F7C0AB815EECA6</RequestId><HostId>8ilWXTAmC7tnnkVXInKq9+WAs5ukE48F5PbA+Bil8/Cg+2v2WQsC6tpgYAUufVZB</HostId></Error>
[20:47] <lool> but I still don't understand why it only happens with bpython/ipython
[20:47] <lool> soren: Ah!  LC_ALL=C and it works
[20:48] <lool> so it's some obscure locale related thing
[20:50] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: yeah I was just thinking in something else. Let me do it first and I'll show you
[20:52] <Daviey> lool, Gah... can you report it?
[20:52] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: dude don't you go out to party or something??
[20:52] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, The rules file is somewhat complicated already, if we can use dh for this - i'd be happier
[20:52] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, I have children :)
[20:52] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ohhh i guess I'll have to take lots of pisco to Budapest then :P
[20:53] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: and just let me do what I have in mind and you'll see. Btw... do you want to switch the packaging to dh7?
[20:53] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, That makes me do silly things..
[20:53] <lool> Daviey: Yup, I'm actually looking at a replacement function right now
[20:53] <lool> issue is in boto/auth.py; search for 'Date'
[20:53] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, If it's not too intrusive, go crazy!
[20:54] <lool>             headers['Date'] = time.strftime("%a, %d %b %Y %H:%M:%S GMT",
[20:54] <lool>                                             time.gmtime())
[20:54] <lool> This outputs: ven., 04 mars 2011 20:52:41 GMT
[20:54] <lool> in French
[20:54] <lool> I guess what happens is that boto itself doesn't initializes locales, but bpython/ipython do
[20:54] <Daviey> lool, Ah, that is probably  why smoser and me wouldn't have come across that.
[20:55]  * Daviey needs to try bpython... is it better than ipython lool ?
[20:57] <lool> email.Utils.formatdate() seems to be a good replacement
[21:04] <lool> Daviey: I used bpython very little, because I never tried it much; it seems to be a bit nicer than ipython
[21:05] <Daviey> echo "try bpython" >> ~/todo.list
[21:45] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: still around?
[21:46] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, pretty much
[21:47] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: does this look sane to you? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/575725/
[21:52] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: and against what branch should I be proposing the merge and getting the source lp:ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus?
[21:57] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: and to raise a bug/concern to upstream euca where should I do it?
[21:59] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, no, not that branch
[22:00] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, lp:~ubuntu-virt/ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus/natty
[22:00] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, lp.net/eucalyptus for bug
[22:01] <lool> Daviey: From playing with it, bpython has a very nice rewind feature which let's you go back in time, rewinding history
[22:02] <lool> unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have support for searching previous commands in history, which is what I do most of the time in ipython
[22:02] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: oky. And well It's fixed now will be submitting the branch in a bit for you to merge it
[22:03] <Daviey> lool, nice!
[22:04] <Daviey> lool, it rolls back objects aswell?
[22:04] <lool> I don't know
[22:04] <lool> I don't like the default colors, but the UI is very nice in bpython
[22:05] <lool> with intelligent sorting / hiding of functions, highlight of the function you're typing etc.
[22:05] <lool> the theme seems easily customizable
[22:05]  * Daviey looks forward to trying it
[22:06] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, NFI what that paste is showing me btw
[22:06] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: dpkg -c eucalyptus-common<etc/etc>.deb
[22:06] <RoAkSoAx> ?
[22:07] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx, yes, but why?
[22:08] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: that pastebin now shows that euca_admin has bin installed in usr/share/pyshared and symlinked to the correct python (/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages and /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages)
[22:08] <RoAkSoAx> and that's handled by python-central
[22:08] <Daviey> ahh i see
[22:33] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: there: https://code.launchpad.net/~andreserl/ubuntu/natty/eucalyptus/natty/+merge/52264
[22:33] <spydmobile> Hi friends i need some advice before I break something, I have 3 servers: old32, old64 and new64, old32 = ProLiant DL360 G5 with a 2 drive raid for OS and a 6 drive (400GB)raid for data mounted as /HOME ruuning server 8.10, old64 is ProLiant DL360 G5 with a 2 drive raid for OS running server 9.10 64-bit and last is new64 = ProLiant DL360 G6 with a 2 drive raid for OS running server 10.10 64 bit. New64 is production and is li
[22:33] <spydmobile> Would I be able to unplug the 6 raid drives from old32 and plug 3 in old64 and 3 in new64 and not have to reinstall ubu server 10.10 64? Thanks for any direction here....
[22:38] <PatrickDK> spydmobile, that should work just fine
[22:41] <Datz> Hi, if anyone familiar with using the virtual kernel images?
[22:41] <Datz> -images
[22:42] <spydmobile> PatrickDK: Thanks!
[22:43] <Datz> I've done something like: aptitude install linux-image-2.6.32-27-virtual
[22:45] <Datz> but it looks as though the virtual kernel relies on the -server kernel config or something, as if I "aptitude purge" the old -server kernel I get kernel panic
[22:45] <Datz> so I remove and not purge, and all works
[22:46] <Datz> but now when I: aptitude safe-upgrade it looks as though it's not trying to upgrade to the lastest -virtual kernel, but rather -server kernel
[22:47] <Datz> does anyone have experience with the -virtual kernel that could help with figure out what's going?
[22:49] <Datz> If I'm going to have to manually update to the latest -virtual kernel and use some -server kernel config I'm just going to stick with -server :P
[22:56] <xnox> I've generate my own SSL CA & Site key/pem sertificates. I've updated the apache2 config and restarted. Yet Apache still presents the "old" snakeoil certificate!
[22:56] <xnox> What did I not do to "replace" the servers ssl certificate?
[22:57] <phoenixsampras> what is the best way to install ubuntu server remotely?
[22:58] <xnox> phoenixsampras, define "remotely" =) you can do netboot or boot it with ssh server and run install from ssh
[22:59] <xnox> phoenixsampras, you can use preseed, and hope it will install it self and come alive on the network.