[11:27] <PsynoKhi0> hi
[11:27] <knome> hello
[11:38] <PsynoKhi0> ochosi: ready for 8 more menu icons suggestions? ;P
[11:39] <PsynoKhi0> or maybe knome?
[11:39] <ochosi> sure
[11:42] <PsynoKhi0> well there are variations on the idea basically
[11:42] <PsynoKhi0> http://img832.imageshack.us/i/panelit3bigmenubutton2.png/
[11:42] <PsynoKhi0> http://img820.imageshack.us/i/panelit3bigmenubutton3.png/ without the blue background
[11:43] <ochosi> hm, not (entirely) bad, but it doesn't really look like a button anymore
[11:43] <ochosi> iirc you wanted something that would make people click it
[11:44] <ochosi> it looks a bit like being just a bg-image of the panel now
[11:44] <PsynoKhi0> patience!! :D
[11:44] <ochosi> but basically i get what you're suggesting and i think it's a possibly good direction
[11:45] <PsynoKhi0> http://img251.imageshack.us/i/panelit3bigmenubutton5.png/ this one with the blue ubuntu logo inside the mouse
[11:45] <PsynoKhi0> e.g. xubuntu's variation of the circle thingie
[11:46] <ochosi> hm, the overlay is a bit confusing
[11:46] <ochosi> sry, i got to go now
[11:46] <ochosi> we can discuss this later
[11:47] <ochosi> bbl
[11:47] <PsynoKhi0> sure
[11:47] <PsynoKhi0> cya!
[11:47] <PsynoKhi0> knome: any opinion?
[11:51] <knome> PsynoKhi0, 2 is the best, but i agree with ochosi that it maybe needs some work to look more like a button
[11:57] <PsynoKhi0> definitely, basically the idea was to check how having the XFCE mouse much bigger though slightly cut out would turn out
[11:57] <knome> mmh, i'm not sure, it isn't bad but i don't know if it's good enough
[11:58] <PsynoKhi0> in what way?
[11:58] <PsynoKhi0> not enough "this is a button" semantics?
[11:58] <knome> yeah
[11:59] <PsynoKhi0> true
[11:59] <PsynoKhi0> http://img145.imageshack.us/i/panelit3bigmenubutton6.png/ this one is a B&W inverted variation of the first
[11:59] <knome> mmh
[11:59] <knome> i'd say too much contrast
[12:00] <PsynoKhi0> I see
[12:00] <knome> also, i'd say let's try to stick with the original colors
[12:00] <PsynoKhi0> though IMO the menu button should contrast with the rest of the desktop due to it's central role
[12:01] <PsynoKhi0> ok
[12:01] <PsynoKhi0> http://img696.imageshack.us/i/panelit3bigmenubutton9.png/ this one I'm not too sure, kinda hard to figure out it's the blue ubuntu logo in the back
[12:02] <knome> yeah
[12:03] <PsynoKhi0> having only the white mouse without a background is risky however with light themes
[12:03] <knome> true
[12:03] <PsynoKhi0> so a black outline maybe
[12:03] <Sysi> (xfce4-screenshooter can take shots of part of the screen too)
[12:04] <PsynoKhi0> I worked based on a screenshot provided by ochosi and I wanted to make sure people would get the idea of how the dektop would look like as a whole
[12:04] <Sysi> ah
[12:05] <PsynoKhi0> though yes tweaking and uploading individual files in kind of a PitA ;)
[12:19] <PsynoKhi0> http://img8.imageshack.us/i/panelit3bigmenubutton10.png/ didn't turn out so well :(
[12:20] <PsynoKhi0> there might be a way to "buttonize" the mouse
[12:22] <Sysi> did we long time ago thought about icon with three mouses placed like kubuntu logo?
[12:22] <Sysi> kubuntu logo is so great but that small mouses may be problem
[12:23] <PsynoKhi0> guess so... the current menu button is microscopic
[12:24] <Sysi> if we had text "Xubuntu" it wouldn't need translating.. but would it look bad?
[12:25] <PsynoKhi0> from what I've gathered they want to avoid text
[12:26] <Sysi> i know
[12:33] <PsynoKhi0> bbl
[15:15] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[15:16] <charlie-tca> Another wonderful day to improve what we can, but we can not allow things to become overwhelming!
[15:27] <PsynoKhi0> ochosi: http://img17.imageshack.us/f/panelit3bigmenubutton12.png/ though it's flat
[15:27] <PsynoKhi0> ah still away nvm
[15:27] <PsynoKhi0> any taker?
[15:28] <charlie-tca> the netsplits are starting early today
[16:22] <ochosi_> PsynoKhi0: the last version (with the arrow) is kinda funny, i remember tons of threads on ubuntuforums on how to get rid of the arrow in the gnome-menu :)
[16:23] <ochosi_> PsynoKhi0: anyway, i think making the button "glow" might be a good idea
[16:45] <charlie-tca> ochosi: no workspace switcher in alpha3?
[16:46] <ochosi> charlie-tca: no i don't think we managed to do that change early enough
[16:46] <charlie-tca> We are doing it, though, right/
[16:47] <charlie-tca> It is not in today's image, either
[16:47] <mr_pouit> Alpha 3 doesn't have the latest greybird nor the workspace switcher, because the alpha freeze started on sunday evening, and I wasn't available to upload the changes before
[16:47] <charlie-tca> Thanks.
[16:47]  * micahg thought it started Mon evening
[16:47] <charlie-tca> Depends on the country you are in at the time
[16:48] <charlie-tca> Um, Beta1 is March 31
[16:48]  * micahg doesn't think mr_pouit is in the Pacific Rim
[16:48] <micahg> that makes no sense, ignore me
[16:48] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit is on the old schedule, perhaps?
[16:49] <charlie-tca> anyway, he said he will get it in for the beta, that counts
[16:49] <micahg> ochosi: if you can ping me when gmusicbrowser needs an upgrade, that would be great
[16:49] <ochosi> micahg: sure will do
[16:49] <ochosi> micahg: 1.1.7 is around the corner
[16:50] <ochosi> micahg: i talked to the dev yesterday and most of my changes will go upstream to that version, so very little to patch after that
[16:50] <mr_pouit> (it was "Alpha 3 freeze 2/27 2300 UTC", iirc)
[16:51] <micahg> oh,hmm, that almost seems like a typo
[17:00] <mr_pouit> ahah, maybe, I thought they had a good reason to freeze earlier than usual
[17:06] <charlie-tca> hm, blame me if I put that one in
[17:12] <mr_pouit> "new" greybird uploaded in xubuntu-artwork 11.04.2
[17:12] <mr_pouit> the workspace switcher will follow, ochosi is doing some experiments at the moment ;P
[17:12] <charlie-tca> Thank you, mr_pouit. As always, that is greatly appreciated.
[17:13] <charlie-tca> I just wanted to know we had not forgotten workspace switcher, with all we try to get done.
[20:54] <pleia2> charlie-tca: apologies for missing the meeting yesterday, recovering from a flu (no updates anyway, still waiting on that ticket)
[20:55] <charlie-tca> Better to recover than to wear yourself out. 
[20:55] <knome> Better to drink than drive.
[20:55] <knome> oh wait...
[20:55] <knome> ;)
[20:55] <knome> that was a different onw
[20:55] <knome> *one
[20:57] <Sysi> "it's better to burn out than to fade away" :P
[21:12] <mr_pouit> "never run with scissors"?
[21:35] <knome> hmm
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Don't play with fire if you don't want to get burned
[21:40] <knome> don't play with fire unless you want to eat your food warm?
[21:40] <Sysi> are we heading to something?
[21:40] <knome> grace?
[21:40] <knome> *grave?
[21:41] <charlie-tca> hoping to stay on the green side of the dirt
[21:42] <knome> heh
[21:42] <knome> hoping that the dirt doesn't end up in our pants?
[21:42] <charlie-tca> or on them