=== Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz
c2tarungood morning :)03:53
Daskreechhi c2tarun04:41
c2tarunhi Daskreech04:42
* Daskreech waves04:45
* c2tarun don't miss me too much ;) ♥08:51
* c2tarun is back.08:51
c2tarunbambee: morning09:19
shadeslayervalorie: always glad to help out :)09:35
bambeeDoes anyone has a netbook with an omap4 here ? I'm looking for a netbook these days (my laptop is old now), and I think a netbook ARM-based is a good idea...09:35
shadeslayerbambee: agateau has one IIRC09:36
shadeslayerdunno if it's OMAP based09:36
bambee(I've an android phone with a cortex-A8-based it rocks seriously...)09:36
shadeslayerbut he has a ARM notebook09:36
shadeslayerbambee: ARM notebooks are *slim*09:36
bambeeby netbook I mean, a slim, small, fast "laptop" which rocks with an high battery life09:38
valorieshadeslayer: I hope we can get the phonon backends backported also09:41
valoriebut thanks again for your help09:41
shadeslayervalorie: only if ScottK gives the go ahead :)09:56
valorieI wouldn't dare try to sneak behind ScottK's back!10:02
yofelI would like to have an ARM netbook at some point - although I can live with my eeePC for now10:02
valoriehe might whack me with his cane10:03
valorieand I'd have to defend myself with my knitting needles10:03
Tm_TFYI: konq-plugins-l10n (4:4.4.0-2ubuntu3~maverick1~ppa1) can (and does) block the upgrade to 4.6.110:57
Tm_Tdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-l10n-engb_4%3a4.6.1-0ubuntu1~maverick1~ppa1_all.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/locale/en_GB/LC_MESSAGES/khtmlsettingsplugin.mo', which is also in package konq-plugins-l10n 4:4.4.0-2ubuntu3~maverick1~ppa110:57
debfxTm_T: interesting, I guess we need to upggrade konq-plugins to 4.6.1 and add breaks/replaces to the kde-l10n-* packages11:09
debfxyofel: ^11:10
yofelI couldn't upload 2 translations anyway since the PPA ran out of space so I can upload new translations once launchpad gives me some space again11:12
* yofel looks at the konq-plugins tar again11:13
yofeldebfx: so just use konq-plugins 4.6.1 as it is? Since it's missing a few plugins and the docs compared to 4.4.0 - and I don't know much about konq-plugins11:22
debfxyofel: which plugins are missing?11:23
yofelcrashes/ mediarealfolder/ sidebar/ and smbmounter/11:24
debfxI've built all kde-l10n packages only to notice that they are not in the kubuntu package set11:34
debfxso launchpad reject all the uploads11:35
* debfx refuses to do any kubuntu development until that package set is fixed11:37
yofelwell, we can look at konq-plugins then, no hurry though, as we can't upload anything to backports currently anyway11:38
webdevbyjosshey, guys. I have a problem with installing Qt application, because I can't install required qt-lib. is this a good channel to ask for help?11:47
c2tarunwhich library is required?11:47
c2tarunwebdevbyjoss: ^^11:47
webdevbyjossI'm installing application that depends on "libqt4-multimedia", but there is no such package for current lib-qt https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/i386/libqt4-multimedia, what can I do in order to install my application?11:48
webdevbyjossI'm taking ab out 4.711:48
webdevbyjossI can't downgrade to 4.6 as I have already lot of application that depends on 4.711:48
webdevbyjosslibqt4-multimedia is in beta right now and required libqtcore4 (= 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu1) 11:49
webdevbyjossbut I have a latest "libqtcore4" available from the repository11:50
yofelno, that was the latest version that shipped it, from 4:4.7.0~beta2-0ubuntu2:11:50
yofel   - Drop multimedia package, QtMultimediaKit in QtMobility replaces it11:50
c2tarunyofel: hey can you please help me with a small c++ program for Qt. I asked on #qt but that channel seems to be empty :(11:51
yofelwebdevbyjoss: so either the application package is too  old or you're running a too new Qt package for your release11:52
webdevbyjossI think the package is quite old, but its a latest available from that program, "simon_0.3.0-1ubuntu3_i386-1.deb" and it depends on libqt4-multimedia.11:54
webdevbyjossso possibly I'll contact developer of that program and discuss that with him11:54
yofelc2tarun: looking, but I haven't done any qt programmin in a while so give me a bit11:55
webdevbyjossjust to make everything clear - so there is no any way to install program that depends on "libqt4-multimedia" in ubuntu 10.10?11:55
c2tarunyofel: no problem just take a look at http://paste.kde.org/6537/ I wrote three programs and the error with them11:56
yofelc2tarun: yeah, I saw your paste in #qt11:56
c2tarunyofel: so any clue :( about where I am wrong?11:57
shadeslayerc2tarun: lrn2forwarddeclare classes12:00
yofelshadeslayer: you can still do that after it works :P12:02
shadeslayerand does QWindow come from QtGui?12:02
shadeslayerdoes'nt look like it12:03
shadeslayerc2tarun: i don't see a class called QWindow12:05
shadeslayerc2tarun: http://paste.kde.org/6539/12:05
shadeslayerbut it needs to be done that way ^^12:05
c2tarunshadeslayer: got it, fixed it, it should be QWidget :/12:05
shadeslayersee :P12:06
shadeslayerc2tarun: so replace QWindow with QWidget in that paste there12:06
c2tarunshadeslayer: done :) but still I am not getting anyoutput on executing the executive file :( I guess there is no show called anywhere.12:07
shadeslayersetLayout(layout).show();  -- > better change that to : this->setLayout(layout).show();12:07
shadeslayerwait a second12:07
shadeslayer        np = new Notepad();12:07
shadeslayerwhat after that ?12:07
shadeslayeryou haven't showed the Application12:07
shadeslayernp->show() i'd say12:07
shadeslayer( You allocate the memory / instantiate it, but don't make it show up )12:08
c2tarunshadeslayer: finally got an small cute window :) which function can be used to quit?12:09
shadeslayerthe 'x' at the top?12:10
c2tarunshadeslayer: I want to quit by clicking the button.12:10
shadeslayerimplement the quit() slot?12:11
shadeslayerc2tarun: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/qpushbutton.html#public-slots12:12
shadeslayerthere's no Quit slot for QPushButton12:12
shadeslayeragain ... use QtCreator to fix0r your code12:12
c2tarunshadeslayer: I did first but if I dont declare Notepad::quit() than I am getting an error. I'll use QtCreator after getting little bit aquainted with Qt :)12:13
shadeslayerc2tarun: er what?12:13
c2tarunshadeslayer: this error moc_notepad.cpp:(.text+0x5f): undefined reference to `Notepad::quit()'12:14
shadeslayerthat's because you didn't include the moc12:14
shadeslayerand add #ifndef and #define for your header12:15
c2tarunshadeslayer: I included it first, let me do it again.12:16
shadeslayerc2tarun: did you go through the Qt examples given in the docs?12:16
c2tarunshadeslayer: I was at 2nd example of tutorial when faced this problem12:17
shadeslayerhm ..12:18
c2tarunshadeslayer: you mean header file this way? http://pastebin.com/N0d69wu112:18
shadeslayerc2tarun: #ifndef NOTEPAD_H12:19
shadeslayersame thing for #define12:19
c2tarunshadeslayer: will you believe I saw same convention in a example and thought it as a mispring ;(12:20
yofelc2tarun: IMHO you should also read a tutorial on best practices in c++ (like the include protection shadeslayer is just talking about)12:20
c2tarunyofel: sure I'll go for that too.12:21
shadeslayerand moc12:21
c2tarunshadeslayer: what is moc?12:21
shadeslayerc2tarun: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/moc.html12:21
c2tarunshadeslayer: thanks :)12:22
bambeec2tarun: paste the cpp too please12:59
bambeewell so the cpp should contain the constructor and Notepad::quit() implemented :)12:59
Riddellshadeslayer: how's neon doing?  would it be an interesting idea to announce it at conf.kde.in ?14:02
Riddellso publishing on dot at the same time as your talk14:04
Riddellmaking your talk the big launch14:04
ScottKdebfx: If you have a moment, I'd appreciate a hand with the kde-look/apps watch file you helped me out with a while ago.  kbackup just did a new upstream release and the watch file doesn't work anymore.14:13
ScottKno matching hrefs for watch line14:13
apacheloggershadeslayer, bambee, c2tarun: WTH are ye talking about?14:20
apacheloggerconnect(mePushButton, SIGNAL(clicked()), meActualWindow, SLOT(close());14:21
apacheloggerwhich will close the widget (if used as window)14:21
bambeeapachelogger: I try to understand the discussion, but I arrived too late14:21
apacheloggerif it was the last window of the app and the quitonclose attribute is set it will also quit the application14:21
apacheloggershould that not be the case then you can still force quitting14:22
apacheloggerconnect(mePushButton, SIGNAL(clicked()), qApp, SLOT(quit()));14:22
c2tarunapachelogger: need a good qt tutorial :( Nokia one is not conceptually good, can you suggest me some.14:22
apacheloggerit ought to be noted that qApp is a macro thingy of QApplication, should one not be able to use it for whatever reason there might be there... there is also QCoreApplication::instance()14:23
apacheloggerc2tarun: what is not good about the qt examples?14:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: did I mention that your browser becomes more unusable from time to time that I have to use it?14:25
apacheloggeris it bitrotting or something?14:25
shadeslayerapachelogger: what version are we talking about?14:38
apacheloggerwhatever is in natty14:38
ScottKSome bitrot and some versions don't?14:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: wait for the next release14:38
shadeslayerloads of bugs fixed actually14:38
ScottKSo he should switch to a different browser for now?14:38
apachelogger...meego actually has a working browser...14:39
shadeslayeror compile rekonq from trunk for just some time14:41
ScottKshadeslayer: If it's that much better should we have a trunk snapshot in Natty?14:43
shadeslayeryep ... 14:43
debfxScottK: yeah the download location has changed14:43
debfxScottK: http://paste.kde.org/6545/14:44
shadeslayerwan't me to prepare it?14:44
ScottKdebfx: Thanks.14:44
ScottKshadeslayer: I'm not promising to sponsor it.14:44
shadeslayerwell i was going to put it into a PPA for apachelogger :P14:45
ScottKdebfx: Works great.  Thanks again.14:46
debfxScottK: you're welcome14:47
Riddellshadeslayer: we have a new alpha to package no?14:53
shadeslayerRiddell: there was a new release 0.6.85 but there were some 0 day bugs fixed later on14:53
Riddellok, go with git then14:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: ppa:rohangarg/kde-extra << test from there15:34
shadeslayerit's still building atm15:34
apacheloggersounds like I cannot test :P15:34
shadeslayerwhat .. :P15:35
apacheloggeroggy oggy oggy15:35
apacheloggernatty does not start on ze tablet15:35
shadeslayeryeah .. lp needs 30 mins to start it's magic15:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: what15:35
* apachelogger needs to get n900 integration upl0adered15:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: booting a chroot?15:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: a what now?15:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: well .. i was planning to boot a maverick chroot off android15:36
Riddellshadeslayer: so neon announce at conf.kde.in?  yay or nay?15:36
shadeslayerRiddell: ask yofel :P15:36
apacheloggerScottK: kubuntu-mobile-integration-n900 or kubuntu-mobile-n900-integration?15:36
shadeslayerhe is working on kwin issues15:36
Riddellyofel: yay or nay?  cause he's going to talk about it regardless15:36
apacheloggerme@osiris:~/src$ dget shadeslayer: 15:37
apacheloggerthat did not work15:37
apacheloggerI wonder why15:37
shadeslayerhaha 15:37
ScottKapachelogger: I think that latter.15:37
shadeslayerRiddell: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Project%20Neon/img0.html15:37
apacheloggerScottK: ok15:37
bambeeshadeslayer: nice :D15:38
Riddellshadeslayer: what's that?15:38
Riddelloh, your slides, lovely15:38
shadeslayerRiddell: my not-so-finished presentation15:38
bambee(graphically I mean)15:38
Riddellshadeslayer: do you know where sheytan's banner for neon is?15:38
shadeslayerwell it's probably up on imgur15:39
* shadeslayer checks logs15:39
apacheloggerDescription: yada yada15:40
apachelogger blah blah15:40
apacheloggerwould that get through new queue?15:40
shadeslayerRiddell: http://i.imgur.com/L3N3i.png15:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: you are missing a billion slides15:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes15:42
apacheloggeradd a butterfly15:42
shadeslayerand a picture of mickey15:42
apacheloggershould that not be like two words or something or nothing?15:43
shadeslayerwhere's that word?15:44
shadeslayerin the logo15:44
Riddellshadeslayer: add a "conf.kde.in exclusive: announcing the all new project neon!"15:46
Riddellapachelogger: yes it should15:46
shadeslayergood point15:46
Riddellwho is good with krita?15:47
apacheloggershadeslayer: yer logo is flawed, you are well gonna get beatins' for that :P15:47
Riddellsheytan's logo to be fair :)15:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: i didn't make it15:47
Riddellsheytan: can you do that Project Neon banner with "every day" as two words?15:47
shadeslayerright now .. i'm trying to fix slide 415:47
apacheloggersheytan: you are well gonna get beatins' or something or nothing15:47
apacheloggersheytan: add a picture of a puppy dog15:47
apacheloggerthose always work15:48
apacheloggerunless you want to go zen on side 4, then add a picture of a mountain river, a slow one15:48
apacheloggerunless you want to go zOMG on slide 4, then  add a picture of a mountain river, one that will eat puppy dogs if they fall in15:49
apacheloggershadeslayer: ^15:49
ScottKWe already had Riddell canoeing down a mountain river, so I think rivers have been done.15:49
Riddellcan't have too much of rivers15:49
apacheloggernever underestimate the power of a river pic in a presentation15:50
apacheloggeresp if you have something meaningful to say15:50
Riddelladd a pretty canoing in florida photo, that's relevant and zen15:50
shadeslayerah yes.. the one with jussi in it15:50
apacheloggerif you do not have any meaningful to say, use a kitty though15:50
apacheloggeryou really want people to think about the kitty rather than what you are saying15:51
* apachelogger wonders why natty refuses to build and concludes that this world needs more kernelz15:51
apacheloggershadeslayer: so much text :S15:52
apacheloggercould you not add a picture of a river and just the word "awesome"15:52
apacheloggerthen go on about how it is awesome, and make sure to include the word awesome in every point you are making15:52
apacheloggerthen again awesome might not work as there is no amercian audience15:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: trying to focus on easy to install first :P15:53
apacheloggermake it 5 slides15:53
apacheloggereach with a related pic15:53
shadeslayerand gnome asia is getting so many sponsors ... don't know how many conf.kde.in has :(15:54
ScottKThat or 50 slides with one word on each.15:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: i have to speak for 45 minutes15:54
apacheloggeryou could do a speed iteration15:54
apacheloggerone word per slide15:55
apacheloggerbuilding key words of sentences together15:55
shadeslayeror i could do pictures with subliminal messages15:55
apacheloggeryou say sentence, quickly iterate over slides as to support your arguments15:55
ScottKshadeslayer: 40 of that is you trying to get your laptop to work, so you don't need a lot of content.15:55
apacheloggera dude in my management course likes to do that ...15:55
shadeslayerScottK: haha :D15:56
apacheloggerjust that he did not get the point and tried to apply the scheme to an half an hour talk15:56
shadeslayeri hope not15:56
apacheloggermost mind warping15:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: I remember your laptop not working appropriately @ uds15:56
apacheloggermaybe, just as a precaution you should install a legacy os and use that15:56
apacheloggermaverick > natty15:57
shadeslayeri already am on maverick15:57
apacheloggeryou used mav back then, no? :P15:58
shadeslayeryeah :P15:58
shadeslayeror tried to use it15:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: it works perfectly with my second monitor15:59
shadeslayerthe setup there was weird15:59
apacheloggerI do not think the projector will care about yoru second monitor though :P15:59
ScottKHe might do better with a laptop he was capable of lifting.15:59
apacheloggera tablet16:00
shadeslayerhahah ... yeah this one is *heavy*16:00
apacheloggeryou could have like only pictures16:00
apacheloggerand hold the tablet in the one hand16:00
shadeslayeror just my phone16:00
apacheloggerwith the otherhand you slide through them pictures16:00
apacheloggershadeslayer: also a very good idea16:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: just need to write something that connects to the projector and output's video over USB16:00
apacheloggershadeslayer: oh right, you have a shitty phone16:01
apacheloggerI keep forgetting16:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: it's faster than the N90016:01
apacheloggerkeep telling that to yourself16:01
apacheloggerI just came to reexperience how much performance android eats16:01
apacheloggerjust doing nothing16:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: tried out rekonq yet?16:05
yofelRiddell: I would announce it - we do still have issues, but it'll work ok for most people I hope. And all of that is on the known issues page16:12
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markeyFlash is totally borked with latest Kubuntu updates. the sound is playing in a loop16:26
shadeslayermarkey: 64 bit?16:34
markeyshadeslayer: yes16:52
shadeslayermarkey: tried out the beta release?16:54
markeyyeah I'm using the beta PPA16:55
markeyif you mean that16:55
markeyKDE 4.6.1 and all that16:55
markeyit worked fine before the latest upgrade 16:55
shadeslayerwell .. i just put the so in ~/.mozilla/plugins16:55
* shadeslayer hasn't upgraded yetr16:55
markeyI use Chromium, btw16:55
shadeslayerwell works fine in chromium here16:55
shadeslayermarkey: nightly build?16:55
markeyshadeslayer: try it after the upgrade...16:55
shadeslayerwill leave it to upgrade the whole night16:56
apacheloggershadeslayer: what is the command to test rekonq?17:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:rohangarg/kde-extra; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade17:22
apacheloggerthank you17:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: look facebook17:25
markeyshadeslayer: somehow it works again now, after restarting Chromium :)17:26
shadeslayermarkey: oh great :D17:26
shadeslayerapachelogger: HOW17:26
apacheloggerthough, FWIW input is not yet fully functional17:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: does wifi and stuff work?17:27
shadeslayercan you browse the web et all17:27
apacheloggerwifi is of rather little concern as long as usb works :P17:27
apacheloggeractually, I do not even think wifi works on the n900 currently17:27
apacheloggerthough I could not possibly know as they have broken all of kde on natty anyway17:28
apacheloggerwhat is clear though is that I will need an own kernel17:28
apacheloggerstock omap3 does not have half the shit I need17:28
apacheloggerand the angstrom kernel deployed with their developer firmware is cut17:28
apacheloggerlike really badly17:28
apacheloggeryou do not even have access to /proc/bus/pci17:29
apacheloggerwas it cool though, touchpad works awesome with evdev (well except that it does not realize an actual touch event as click17:29
apacheloggermight be a mis config on my part though17:30
apacheloggerI thought I started the omap3 ubuntu kernel yet uname says it is the angstrom17:32
apacheloggervery odd17:32
apacheloggeroh, I think I know why17:32
* apachelogger needs to start a wiki page17:32
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Project%20Neon/img4.html17:34
shadeslayerapachelogger: does rekonq crash less and work more now?17:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: I did never say it crashed17:37
apacheloggerit was just unusable17:37
apacheloggerstill unusable17:37
shadeslayerhow so?17:37
shadeslayerwhat's the problem?17:37
shadeslayerslow in loading pages?17:39
apacheloggeron everything17:39
shadeslayeror slow in starting up17:39
apacheloggerunusable tabbing when tabs exceed space (which is easily the case on netbook)17:39
apacheloggerwho cares about starting up17:39
apacheloggerI start a browser once a day (given it does not crash)17:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: what happens if the tab's exceed the amount of space?17:40
bambeegood new: In few days, I will help you on kubuntu ARM (I will acquire a toshiba ac100)17:41
shadeslayer( the arrows up top are quite small, yes )17:41
apacheloggershadeslayer: I reported bugs about that17:41
shadeslayeroh goody17:41
apacheloggerIIRC upstream could not have cared less17:41
shadeslayerapachelogger: best way to get them solved17:41
apacheloggershadeslayer: I reported them half a year ago17:42
apacheloggertabbing is broken since forever17:42
* shadeslayer checks17:42
apacheloggerthe best way to get them solved is use a browser who actually cares about that use case possibly17:42
* apachelogger conducts probing and poking on the stupid angstrom kernel17:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: we have a Pin tab feature landing in the next release, so that would help alot in netbook scenarios17:45
shadeslayerdidn't make it this time because it was past feature freeze i think17:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: Graphics driver: fglrx << oh my oh my17:46
shadeslayerapachelogger: your bug was targeted for the 0.8 release 17:47
apacheloggershadeslayer: I like slide 4 btw18:02
shadeslayerapachelogger: added more of them about a minute ago18:02
shadeslayerthere are 9 now18:02
shadeslayerneed polishing tho18:02
apacheloggerI do not like the ones before and the ones after slide 4 though18:03
apacheloggerjust use slide 418:03
shadeslayerhaha :D18:03
* apachelogger notes that rekonq forgets cookies or somesuch stuff18:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: er ... steps to reproduce?18:06
apacheloggershadeslayer: go to gmail, login, tick stay logged in box, restart machine or somesuch crap, see how you have to login again18:08
apacheloggersame for facebook and everything else on this planet18:08
apacheloggerpossibly even intarstellar18:08
shadeslayerapachelogger: does it work with konqueror?18:08
shadeslayerbecause i think kcookiejar cleans out cookies after a restart or sth18:08
apacheloggeralso kcoockiejar definitely does not eat peristant cookies18:09
apacheloggerthat would be silly18:09
shadeslayerok will test in a few minutes18:12
shadeslayerand the tab bar is acting up :<18:12
shadeslayerprobably because i'm using raster18:12
shadeslayerapachelogger: comments on the slides?18:12
apacheloggercant find it tabs are broken18:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: also you did not yet do anything about focus stealing btw18:14
apacheloggerwhen I click a link in quassel0rd rekonq *must* steal focus18:14
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok how do i fix that?18:15
shadeslayerand that is one bug i'd like to fix too18:16
apacheloggerI have no idea18:17
apacheloggerprobably you have to ask kwindowmanagement to give you focus18:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: also something that you can easily do in rekonq ... the new tab must become active tab18:17
shadeslayerer.. that's how it works here18:18
shadeslayeror do you mean right click on link -> Open in tab18:18
shadeslayerand then it switches to new tab18:18
apacheloggerI click on link in quassel0rd -> new tab must get focus18:19
shadeslayerapachelogger: ok i'll fix focus stealing bugs tonight18:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: kwinsystem::windowchanged sounds promising18:20
apacheloggerthough that probably only makes rekonq blink18:20
apacheloggerfor a netbook use case we migt need a kwin profile to allow focus stealing which might then not only make it blink but also raise18:20
apacheloggerthat is a signal18:22
apacheloggerRequests that window win is activated.18:23
apacheloggerholy french fries, I have no idea which one to use when ^^18:23
shadeslayerraiseWindow i'd say18:24
apacheloggershadeslayer: possibly mr konqueror has support for this, whatever it uses should be fine for rekonq18:24
apacheloggerThis call is only for pagers and similar tools that represent direct user actions. Applications should not use it, they should keep using QWidget::raise() or XRaiseWindow() if necessary18:24
apacheloggershadeslayer: raise is no go :P18:24
apacheloggerqwidget::raise might actually do the job18:24
apacheloggergrep konq18:24
* apachelogger wonders whether zimage is equal to vmlinuz18:27
apachelogger/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-5-generic: Linux kernel x86 boot executable bzImage, version 2.6.38-5-generic (buildd@vernad, RO-rootFS, root_dev 0x801, swap_dev 0x4, Normal VGA18:27
apacheloggerlooks like it18:28
apacheloggerthen I wonder why my mobile image booted the angstrom kernel and not ours seeing as I symlinked zImage to my vmlinuz18:28
apacheloggershadeslayer: what I like best about andriod is how mounting a partition over usb makes it unavilable to android18:30
shadeslayerapachelogger: you *like* that?18:30
shadeslayeri hate it18:31
shadeslayerwhat i like best is ... everything works the way it's supposed to be18:31
shadeslayerexcept for the Java bits18:31
apacheloggershadeslayer: lol, well spoken18:38
apacheloggerthough I must say they also have fishy kernels 18:38
apachelogger(most of the time)18:38
shadeslayeroh yes ... definitely ...18:38
* apachelogger has found the input devices for the 3 keys he has18:38
apacheloggeralso apparently the touchscreen is identifying as win7 usb touch something18:39
apacheloggervery confusing ^^18:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: and they require super user priviliges for some normal stuff18:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: i'm going to get myself one of these http://www.noteslate.com/18:39
apacheloggerIMHO the lees priviliges the better18:39
apacheloggerthing is they do not do it properly18:39
apacheloggerand if you do not do it properly you might as well just leave it18:40
apacheloggeras it will be incredibly easy to work around anyway18:40
shadeslayerlook at the noteslate18:40
shadeslayeri mean .... just look at it :D18:40
apacheloggerI forgot about it18:40
apacheloggeryou see18:40
shadeslayerno need to carry a notebook ... eva18:41
apacheloggerrekonq did not raise and the tab did not get focus either18:41
* apachelogger does not see no nothing18:41
shadeslayerhaha :D18:41
apacheloggershadeslayer: that looks very nice18:41
apacheloggeralso it could work with X ^^18:41
shadeslayerno it won't 18:41
apacheloggerwhy not18:41
apacheloggerx is awesome18:41
shadeslayerX takes up too much memory18:41
apacheloggerI hope wayland never comes around18:42
shadeslayeryou confuse awesome with tons of memory18:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: it does not need to18:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: you can keep your 20 year old piece of code18:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: how much mem does that bugger have?18:42
* shadeslayer want's new stuff18:42
apacheloggershadeslayer: that is the point exactly18:42
apachelogger20 years ago machines were shit18:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: not alot seeing how it's supposed to just display 1 bit colors18:42
apacheloggerhence you could easily reduce X to what it was 20 years ago and it would use like less than a mb18:42
shadeslayerno specs18:42
apachelogger(well without drivers, obviously drivers are fat beasts)18:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: the firmware will be open source18:43
shadeslayerso i guess it's doable18:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: it will already have a HTML browser and music player18:43
apacheloggerthe fact that it only does black or white does not say anything about mem really18:43
shadeslayerwhy do you want X ontop of it?18:43
apacheloggerX must go everywhere18:43
apacheloggerso that wayland stays out of sight18:43
apacheloggerI like how meego has a mouse cursor on their tablets18:44
shadeslayerapachelogger: seeing how it does only black and white, it probably doesn't have much18:44
shadeslayerwhat :O18:44
apacheloggerit is totally shitty18:44
apacheloggerand totally necessary18:44
shadeslayerreally? :D18:44
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/fxmzn/what_is_your_funniest_made_up_fact_that_someone/c1je2qa18:44
apacheloggerwell, I would not know of a way to get rid of the coursor while having a input device18:44
apacheloggerprobably a design decision made 20 years ago18:44
apacheloggeractually isn it it more like 30 these days?18:45
apacheloggertime flies by so quickly18:45
* apachelogger must be doing something wrong18:45
apacheloggerI really do not get it18:48
apacheloggereither the firmware overrides /boot completely or I am too stupid18:48
apacheloggerthat at least explains why natty did not want to load despite me throwing in our n900 kernel which should at least start theboard18:48
apacheloggernatty system wouldnt want to start with meego kernel either18:49
apacheloggerBUT WHY18:50
apacheloggerthere seems to be a menu well hidden :S18:52
apacheloggermuch better18:54
apacheloggerit is karp0tt19:01
shadeslayervery interesting19:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: so i close Dr.Konqi after reporting a crash19:01
shadeslayerand i click on "take me to the bug report's webpage"19:02
shadeslayerand rekonq gains focus19:02
apacheloggerdid you have another app focused at the time?19:02
shadeslayerthe bug reporter19:03
apacheloggerI thought you closed it19:03
shadeslayerapachelogger: there's a link at the end, i clicked on that19:03
apacheloggerkwin focus stealing prevention is a mystery to me19:04
apacheloggerit still does not boot :(19:05
apacheloggeroption a) kernel image is shit19:05
apacheloggeroption b) initrd is shit19:05
apacheloggeroption c) apachelogger is a stupid developer19:05
apacheloggerI go with c)19:05
apacheloggerI was not supposed to be developer anyway19:05
apacheloggerthat all was just one great accident19:05
apacheloggeror is it big accident19:05
apacheloggeractually I am drunk I must admit19:06
apacheloggerstill no boot19:07
* apachelogger builds a maverick minimal image with stock kernel19:07
DarkwingDuckhaving fun apachelogger?19:10
apacheloggerI shall go on vacation soon19:10
DarkwingDuckWhat's messing up?19:10
DarkwingDuckOh nice.19:10
apacheloggerall this broken open source stuff makes me wanna kill people19:11
DarkwingDuckYeah... What's broken today?19:11
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: apachelogger is broken today19:11
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: +119:12
* apachelogger cannot fix19:12
apacheloggerI do not have apachelogger.h with me19:12
apacheloggeractually everything is broken19:12
apacheloggerif you apply insane apachelogger standards19:12
DarkwingDuckWell, Yeah... just re-write it in PERL and you're good to go.19:12
DarkwingDuckThis way if it breaks you can blame the language19:13
apacheloggermakes me wanna open up a company to make money out of fixing shit so that it shall be valuable to businesses and robots19:13
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: yeah19:13
apacheloggerwe had a nice discussion about this the other day in class19:13
apacheloggerwith teh essential conclusion that the language is not to blame but developers being incompotent19:13
apacheloggeras every major language is turing complete they are all capable of the exactly the same things19:14
DarkwingDuckehhhhhhhh.... I don't know. PERL in itself is rough.19:14
apacheloggerwhether the developer makes them do the right things is however the part of the equation that is mostly unkown19:14
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: do brainfuck19:14
apacheloggerthat is rough19:15
DarkwingDuckBut, I would 99% agree19:15
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: LOL Aye, that is rough.19:15
DarkwingDuckI'm dedicating myself to graphics, docs and learning Python.19:15
apacheloggeractually you could just as well do it on a turing machine19:15
DarkwingDuckerm... ignore that part about raphics.19:15
apacheloggerwould not be much more work than brainfuck really19:15
shadeslayerapachelogger: python? really?19:15
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: learning python?19:16
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: aye19:16
apacheloggerdo you want to fly from drugs or smthing or nothing?19:16
DarkwingDuckIt's quick and I can port it anywhere.19:16
apacheloggeryou can port C anywhere19:16
DarkwingDuckPlus, I have a python teacher19:16
DarkwingDuckI don't have a C/C++/C# teacher19:16
apacheloggerpython you can port to any subset of C with python being mostly written in C19:16
shadeslayerapachelogger: i was actually looking at learning System C19:16
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: get a book :P19:17
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: you don't need a teacher19:17
apacheloggerC only got like 5 concepts19:17
shadeslayeraye 19:17
* DarkwingDuck mutters19:17
apacheloggerptrs, datatypes, signatures, functions, memory19:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: any I forgot?19:17
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: just make obnoxiously long variable name's and you are done19:17
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^^19:17
apacheloggersee, I just summed up C in 5 words19:18
DarkwingDuckMaybe I'll just stick to Docs. I just realized if I learn C++ I'll be another apachelogger minion19:18
* apachelogger is pretty extraordinary19:18
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: so you're saying being a minion is bad? :O19:18
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: yeah and with python you'd become a Riddell minion19:18
apacheloggeroutlook is not so good19:18
apacheloggerwas that a pun?19:18
apacheloggerpossibly it was19:18
shadeslayeri wonder whose minion i am ... since i'm using emacs and learning C++19:18
DarkwingDuckHarold or Jr minion...19:18
apacheloggershadeslayer: you are the dirty minion who will grow up to become darth vader19:19
DarkwingDuckOr, I can finish learning packaging and be a ScottK minion19:19
apacheloggerobviously you have fallen for the dark side of the force19:19
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: so much to choose from 19:19
* shadeslayer likes the Dark Side19:19
apacheloggeryou could also continue doing docs and become your own master19:19
DarkwingDuckOh, I'll just stick with Docs and have my own minions. :P:P19:19
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: you could also become marketer and become a minion of mine in that domain :P19:20
apacheloggermy talents are wasted on stupid development really19:20
DarkwingDuckWell, I'll be pushing Kubuntu community and I'm going to start more work on the website too19:20
apacheloggerperfect, you shall be minion and drag me out of this stupid boring development stuff19:21
DarkwingDuckI have another meeting with Jono coming up19:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: can i call slots from a ctor without a connect? like this->setFocus();19:21
apacheloggerintersting question19:21
apacheloggerdo you want the long answer?19:22
apacheloggeryou know about moc19:22
apacheloggerthe metaobjectcompiler19:22
shadeslayersome of it...19:22
apacheloggersee... the reason you have to declare signals with a datatype in the header...19:22
apacheloggerthey are actually functions19:22
apacheloggeras C++ does not know about all the signals and slots shit19:22
apacheloggeronly the QMetaObject puts that stuff ontop of the actual C++ class19:23
shadeslayerand then Qt handles them via moc19:23
apacheloggerso they are still c++ functions, callable as such19:23
apacheloggerso a slot is no different than any other functions19:23
apacheloggerand technically a signal is not either19:23
tsimpsonthe "emit" keyword is simply a #define emit19:23
apacheloggerexcept that it probably has no implementation19:23
tsimpsonyou just call the method19:23
apacheloggerso foo->mySignal() will probably fail to compile ;)19:24
tsimpsonall signals are just protected methods, defined in the moc19:24
apacheloggerbut there is nothing that actually prevents you from implementing a signal19:24
tsimpsonyou'll get link errors if you do define a signal though19:24
shadeslayerinteresting that ^^19:25
* apachelogger never tried that19:25
apacheloggeractually I struggle to find a use case for doing that ^^19:25
apacheloggerjust thinking about it now19:25
tsimpsonmoc actually defines the methods, that's the moc_blah.cpp or blah.moc files19:25
apacheloggershadeslayer: question answered?19:25
shadeslayeryep :)19:26
shadeslayerthanks :)19:26
tsimpsonso you get double symbols19:26
apacheloggermakes sense19:27
tsimpsonas far as C++ is concerned, signals are just protected methods of a class (so sub-classes can emit signals from the parent)19:27
bambeeapachelogger: Qt just makes object introspection for slots and signals right ?19:27
bambee(I mean, introspection using extra informations generated by moc)19:27
apacheloggerthat question is a bit confusing really19:27
tsimpsonmoc makes signals, slots and properties work19:28
apacheloggerbambee: QObject does that, obviously Qt at large does more ;)19:28
apacheloggerdoubtlessly the most important feature of Qt though19:28
tsimpsonit's part of the reason no one uses gtkmm, it uses boost-signals, which is just ugly compared to Qt19:29
bambeeunfortunately Qt does not make coffee :'(19:29
shadeslayerapachelogger:  KWindowSystem::demandAttention(mainWindow()->winId(), true);19:30
shadeslayeri think that's the best19:30
yofelget your coffee machine a sane processor and network card and you can probably get it to make coffee using Qt19:30
shadeslayerlol 19:30
bambeeyofel: lol19:31
apacheloggeryofel: there was a blog post somewhere about a realllllllllllllllly emedded thing with Qt port ;)19:34
apacheloggermemory constraints are probably more a problem than shitty cpu19:34
shadeslayerwhere does Dr. Konqi reside btw?19:35
shadeslayerthe source code :P19:36
apacheloggerin your memory :P19:36
shadeslayerkdelibs i guess19:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: i wish19:36
apacheloggershadeslayer: runtime is more like it19:37
yofelit is runtime19:37
shadeslayeroh darn19:37
shadeslayeri don't have that checked out19:37
apacheloggerphonon-kde also lives in runtime19:37
apacheloggeralso it has shitty code from what I have seen19:37
* apachelogger breaks his tablet a bit more19:38
shadeslayerpoor tablet19:39
shadeslayerit's probably wondering where the hell it is19:39
apacheloggerprobably not, because if it had any sort of a.i. it would be booting and stuff as otherwise it is clear that it is of no value and might get flushed down the toilet or something or nothing19:43
* apachelogger looks for more booZe19:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: just send it to me19:44
shadeslayeri'll take care of it19:44
DarkwingDuckI got one of the Ubuntu wiki guys asking me if we need help building up the Kubuntu wiki :D19:44
apparleguys, my desktop is old(4years) I'm thinking of adding a new graphic card to it. Is it worth?19:44
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: we can haz new wiki theme! \o/19:44
shadeslayerapparle: #kubuntu please19:45
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: I'm already working on a new theme19:45
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: why isn't it up!!!19:45
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: because I'm not quite done19:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: would it be possible to hook up neon with some of those arm builders?19:46
yofelmore like: is there *some* kind of ETA until PPAs build for armel?19:50
yofelwe'll get into space trouble then though ^^19:51
shadeslayeryofel: there was talk of having some publick arm builders19:52
shadeslayerdon't know what's the status19:52
yofelwell, there are 2 currently on the builders page - doing nothing19:54
shadeslayeryofel: there are 13 ARM builders from what i can see20:09
yofelshadeslayer: distribution builders - yes20:10
shadeslayerzkriesse: this is our not so sekret hideout20:10
shadeslayerc2tarun_: you realize you have a class A ip address20:11
c2tarun_yup :)20:11
shadeslayerc2tarun_: what ISP?20:11
yofelfirst time for me seeing an 1. address ^^20:12
c2tarun_tikona :/ I am damn sure you never heard the name...20:12
c2tarun_its local ISP here in my area :)20:12
shadeslayeryofel: yeah.. i've also seen it for the first time20:12
shadeslayerc2tarun_:  as a matter of fact i have20:12
shadeslayerc2tarun_: you see i live in Gurgaon ;)20:12
c2tarun_shadeslayer: you have tikona connection :) so I am not the only one suffering ;)20:12
yofelwhen were we supposed to run out of IPs again? september?20:12
shadeslayerc2tarun_: nope ... i have a Airtel connection20:13
shadeslayeryofel: wasn't there a page once that counted IP Address20:13
yofelthere are a few - the first counters reached 0 in february20:13
shadeslayerin fact there's even a IPv6 day20:13
c2tarun_shadeslayer: oh... :) airtel is best 20:14
shadeslayerno it isn't20:14
shadeslayerc2tarun_: seen the latest Fair Usage Policy20:14
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c2tarun_shadeslayer: nope, what is it?20:15
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shadeslayerc2tarun: your speed comes down to 128 kbps after 10 GB's20:15
c2tarunshadeslayer: do you know that 128kbps is four times of the speed which I get :/ its awful :(20:16
shadeslayerAirtel is better then :P20:17
c2tarunshadeslayer: and Airtel gives uninterrupted connection as well :) when I'll go for my job in mumbai I'll get Airtel there ;)20:17
apparlec2tarun: where are you from20:19
c2tarunapparle: right now I am in delhi. you?20:19
apparlec2tarun: Pune, tikona is not so local and agreed it is hopeless20:20
c2tarunshadeslayer: I want to do some coding stuff for KDE, I was looking for some easy already fixed bug, to look into it but failed to find one :( can you please help20:20
c2tarunapparle: but still its cheap :) and suites my pocket money.20:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^^ new minion for you20:21
shadeslayerc2tarun: any particular component you are interested in?20:21
c2tarunshadeslayer: not sure. can you suggest any?20:22
yofelimplement a log viewer for Quassel20:22
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Quassel20:22
yofelthat's more than just a bit hard though20:22
yofelc2tarun: that's our default IRC client (what do you use btw.?)20:23
c2tarunyofel: I use konversation, (it reminds me of xchat :))20:23
* yofel keeps xchat as backup and for DCC stuff20:24
* apachelogger keeps pr0n for enjoyment20:24
c2tarunyofel: can you please suggest anything bit easier, as I never done it before. Is it possible for me to join any running project and see there coding?20:25
yofelprobably, any apps you're frequently using? there are junior jobs with 'easy' bugs too for KDE I think20:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: probelm with current builder is that they are native and not emulated thus canonical does not like unaffiliated people using them20:27
c2tarunyofel: well I mostly use, konsole, yakuake, konversation, bangarang, vlc, few widgets like gmail plasmoid. thats it.20:28
apacheloggerwhat do you not want to hear from a flasher app?20:28
apacheloggerinitrd and vmlinuz too big20:28
apacheloggermost horrifying\20:28
c2tarunhow can I download the source code of any KDE application and add start it as a project in Qt Creator?20:40
yofelif you just want a quick look at the source you can use apt-get source - if you want to develop for upstream you'll have to checkout from KDE SVN/GIT20:42
shadeslayerc2tarun: see projects.kde.org20:42
yofelhm, right, see there20:43
apparlec2tarun: you could start here http://techbase.kde.org/Development see the tutorials20:43
c2tarunthanks :)20:43
yofelheh, nice git Icon error ^^20:44
yofelc2tarun: if you need to test KDE trunk and don't want to build it completely yourself use neon ;)20:45
c2tarunyofel: what is neon?20:45
ubottuThe Neon Project provides daily Amarok and KDE 4 trunk builds as packages for Kubuntu | See http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon and http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/User:Apachelogger/Project_Neon/KDE/Info for more | Support in #amarok.neon20:45
yofelhm... that needs an update...20:45
apacheloggerapachelogger: feel highlighted20:45
apacheloggerapachelogger: ack20:46
apacheloggerwell then20:46
apacheloggerkubuntu tabletty stuff has to wait until I am home again20:46
yofelc2tarun: same daily builds - but now in #project-neon and on http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Using_Project_Neon_to_contribute_to_KDE20:46
* apachelogger needs to build himself a kernel20:46
* apachelogger boots le android20:47
c2tarunyofel: thanks for the links guys :) I'll read them.20:48
apacheloggerit takes ages20:48
shadeslayerapachelogger: okay i've fix0red the tab stealing focus20:54
shadeslayerbut i can't figure out what the old code did :P20:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: there's a config option to change that behavior20:58
shadeslayerbambee: ^^ :P20:58
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://i.imgur.com/mDn0N.png20:59
apacheloggermarkey: I get only whitenoise from you21:05
apacheloggerit is getting worse21:06
shadeslayerapachelogger: config options ftw21:06
shadeslayernow to make rekonq steal focus from other apps21:06
apacheloggerthey suck21:06
shadeslayerit was fun to read all the code tho21:07
shadeslayeryou guys are having a skype call?21:08
nixternalanyone have broadcom 4311 wifi working on natty? this is driving me nuts, and i don't know if it is natty or my wifi card is borked. i installed the drivers though jockey, but i can't enable my darn wifi21:09
shadeslayernixternal: iirc they were planning on getting the BCM drivers in natty21:10
shadeslayerthe one in kernel trunk21:10
shadeslayerdon't know if they were successful 21:10
nixternalthis is my old laptop, so i am wondering if i have to use b43-fwcutter with some legacy crap, but in the past i never had to do that21:15
claydohhad problems with a 4312 (I think), but I replaced it with an intel 'n' card off ebay. 21:15
claydohhmm I have a 4318 pc card in my almost dead laptop, i think I have natty on it21:16
claydohI do remember b43-fwcutter not working, but this was pre alpha2 niirc21:17
claydohnixternal: may havve to download the files manually  and run fwcutter21:18
claydohme, I spent the 12 bux for a new card as I be lazy, plus wanted g support21:18
claydohwell, different minipci card,  it was used21:18
claydohI can't remember if i tried extracting the firmware manually or not myself21:20
nixternalhrmm, maybe they are doing something with the broadcom stuff, because now my wifi button will check/uncheck network mangler, but it doesn't light up, nor does it show anything in dmesg. but it is at least doing something now21:21
claydohnixternal: no, i think there was a conflict with the STA driver and the b4321:21
claydohi think21:21
nixternalahh, WiFi now {enabled|disabled} by radio killswitch21:22
nixternalit wasn't doing the 10 minutes ago. i just did an update and rebooted21:22
nixternalstill no light though. i like the light, it is a pretty bright blooooooo one :)21:22
nixternalits getting close to doing something though, still nothing with iwconfig21:23
claydohone thin that bugged me was a change that causes the wifi light on my dell to flash with activity21:23
shadeslayerclaydoh: i have that21:23
shadeslayerand i like it21:23
claydohshadeslayer: there is a setting to fix, but I decided I actually like the flashing21:24
nixternalyeah, my dell does that as well21:24
nixternalhas done that for ages though, since at least 200821:24
shadeslayeryep me too21:24
shadeslayeri need to get a new laptop21:24
claydohmine didn't at first21:24
claydohbut i haven't had this one too long21:25
claydohoh thats  why - I upgraded the broadcom wireless to intel, hence the flashing21:25
claydohI don't ever see whayI would ever buy a new laptop, this used one is rather nice21:26
nixternalheh, i totally purged the broadcom drivers, and the button still does that. gotta reboot first i guess21:28
nixternalnow iwconfig shows stuff...i just purged the damn drivers21:30
claydohpurgrd the b43? i think then maybe the card uses the sta drivers in natty now21:31
nixternalpurged the sta drivers21:31
claydohtoo messy21:31
claydohthe only info I found when I was fighting was to blacklist the b43 stuff, but it didn't work for me21:32
nixternalyeah, all of that gets blacklisted automatically21:33
nixternali just think it is kernel stuff they are working on in natty21:33
nixternali think we can disable the notification about 'software upgrade notifications are available'. that is annoying, plus can someone come up with a better icon other than that lightbulb?21:37
apacheloggerack ack21:41
shadeslayerok i'm sleeping21:41
shadeslayerbefore i do something stoopid21:42
apacheloggerwho is up for the skype?21:59
apacheloggeryofel: ?21:59
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sheytanyofel Riddell shadeslayer http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7760/neongc.png22:26
sheytansorry guys, was afk22:26
Riddellsheytan: awesomeness, thanks :)22:27
sheytanRiddell welcome ;)22:27
tazzsheytan,it re-directs to http://imageshack.us/img/blocked_login.jpg22:38
sheytantazz works for me (TM) :D22:39
yofelthanks sheytan22:40
yofelRiddell: about bug 729653 - can we use the konq-plugins 4.6.1 tar? It's missing the doc/ dir as well as 4 plugins compared to 4.4.0, or should I find a way to rip the konq-plugins translations out of the SC 4.6.1 tranlations?22:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 729653 in Kubuntu PPA "KDE 4.6.1 upgrade fails: Language (kde-l10n-engb) file overwrite error" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72965322:42
Riddellyofel: upstream's mess is that one22:42
Riddellyofel: I think can use the konq-plugins 4.6.1 tar, I think missing plugins means they didn't work22:43
Riddellbut it's hard to be certain22:43
Riddelland I think upstream want to keep konq-plugins translations in kde-l10n.  4.6.1 is out so they don't really have a choice for now.  so I guess a replaces: is needed22:44
Riddell(for the PPA anyway, the .po issue doesn't matter in natty)22:44
yofelI have the replaces done for the translations, just need to run the script. I just wasn't sure if konq-plugins 4.6.1 is usable in it's state22:45
yofelI'll prepare a package in ninjas22:45
Riddellyofel: check with dfaure to be sure, I think he did the 4.6 porting22:46
yofelwhere do I find him?22:47
Riddell"dfaure" but he's not online, probably away for the weekend 22:48

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