=== jesus is now known as Guest5732 [00:15] hi all [00:15] http://damieng.com/blog/2008/05/26/envy-code-r-preview-7-coding-font-released <--- can I use this on the console, it is truetype [00:26] kristian-aalborg: Yes, just change the font settings in gnome-terminal [00:27] kristian-aalborg: Edit > Profile Preferences... > Uncheck "use system font" and select your own [00:37] hi aveilleux [00:37] I was being unclear... I meant for the framebuffer [00:39] kristian-aalborg: No, the kernel doesn't support TTF fonts. You'd have to load an X server and use its font renderers [00:39] it seems I have to use fbterm or something like that [00:39] yeah [00:40] this one was just mentioned as a "programmers" font so many places that I thought I was missing something :/ [00:40] kristian-aalborg: They mean it's a good monospace font to use when coding. [00:40] so it seems.... bugger, it's a nice-looking font [01:37] need some advice after the last update broke the ability of a clean boot with grub2 [01:38] I think I want to back out the update and try again because the fault is that the boot loader can't read initrd.img (corrupt?) [01:39] So, my question is how to get the last update to .29 to reload [01:44] I can boot from the grub2 recovery console into the last good image by loading the last linux kernel and the last good initrd.img then issuing a boot command. [01:54] would anyone know some nice console fonts, apart from Tamsyn and Terminus? === mint_ is now known as Anna === Anna is now known as AnnaOnMac [03:46] is there an aptitude history? [03:47] johnny77, You can do cat ~/.bash_history |grep apt [03:48] aveilleux: I was think of more of what was installed recently. I did a sudo aptitude upgrade then sudo aptitude install xorg and now something screwed up. [03:50] johnny77, Oh, what packages were recently installed? Run a sudo aptitude purge xorg, and see what packages get marked for removal. Those would be the ones installed. [03:51] aveilleux: can I purge an upgrade? [03:52] johnny77, Not that I'm aware of [03:53] aveilleux: I figured it out... somthing in the upgrade or xorg blacklisted my driver! [03:54] johnny77, Interesting. [03:55] johnny77, Are you trying to build up from a CLI install? [03:55] aveilleux: yes... it's been quite an adventure, but I've learned loads!! [03:56] johnny77, Something that'll help: install xinit instead of xorg (xorg gets installed as a dependency, and x11 is set up to run at boot time) [03:57] aveilleux: maybe i'm still a little new or just really tired, but can you explain that a little better. [03:57] wait... hold on. let me think I want to guess [03:58] If I install xinit, xorg also gets installed plus I won't have to type startx, it'll load automatically. Is that right. [03:58] johnny77, Exactly [03:59] \o/ Yay!!!! [03:59] johnny77, What desktop environment are you planning on using? [03:59] fluxbox [04:00] now that xorg is install i don't have to purge, but just install xinit. [04:00] johnny77, That's correct [04:00] johnny77, Something that might help you is the Fluxbox portion of my script: https://github.com/AntonioPT/minimal-desktop-for-ubuntu/blob/master/script.sh#L176 [04:00] johnny77: /var/log/dpkg.log [04:01] (for future reference) [04:02] pleia2: is that the install history? [04:02] yep [04:02] aveilleux: thanks. Is that kind of a automated install? [04:03] johnny77, Yep. See also: http://minimal-desktop.sublevel21.com/generator/ [04:03] pleia2: does it matter what you use to install ie apt-get vs aptitude? [04:04] johnny77: nope, both use dpkg and that's what the log is actually tracking [04:06] aveilleux: that's really cool - the second link [04:06] johnny77, Er, apparently the Fluxbox portion is broken right now. I have an email to send. [04:08] aveilleux & pleia2: Thank you! But it's not time to go to bed.. see ya, take it easy. [04:08] good night :) [04:09] See ya === raju is now known as assassinator [07:14] Hey! so i cant gety my wireless to work O.o [07:17] did it work before? [07:20] xAndromeda: did you have wireless at any point in the past on that computer? [07:38] back! lol no i dont remember it ever working... [07:38] i googled it but came up with nothing said sothing about an arthero driver [07:39] clueless O.o [07:39] I'm assuming you have a wired connection? [07:39] yes [07:40] have you tried system > administration > drivers? [07:40] or hardware drivers? [07:40] what version of ubuntu are you running? [07:40] 10.10 [07:41] k [07:41] i only see a additional drivers [07:41] under system admin [07:41] try that [07:41] says no proprietary drivers evyerthing else is blank [07:41] k [07:42] desktop or laptop? I think you'd said laptop, yes? [07:42] yeah laptop [07:42] k [07:42] does the bottom of it name the wireless chipset or anything? sometimes it's printed on there [07:42] and/or what's the make/model of the laptop? [07:43] no it dosnt appear to be, its a HP G60 - 538CA [07:44] on your network icon, right click and see if there's an option for wireless [07:45] and/or is there a hardware button/switch/something to turn on/off wireless? [07:45] theres a hw button for wireless but it dosnt work [07:45] k, did you check the network icon? [07:46] wireless disconnected not showing any networks [07:46] and i know there is one cuz my cell is connected to it right now [07:46] did you right click on it? [07:47] yes [07:47] and it shows wireless? enabled or? [07:47] enabled [07:47] ok, so then it's recognizing that you HAVE a card... [07:47] hmmm...is this a newer or older laptop? [07:48] i bought it about 2.5 years ago... idk how new the model is [07:49] do you know if your router is set to b, g, or n? [07:50] no idea O.o [07:50] how would i check? [07:50] ok, try choosing "connect to hidden wireless network" and typing in the name of your wireless connection [07:50] you'd have to log into the router, don't worry about it [07:51] it is case specific [07:51] ok that worked O.o [07:51] awsum :D [07:51] why is it hidden though? O.o [07:52] don't know [07:52] but cool [07:52] i could see it on pretty much eveyr other divice [07:52] glad you're connected :) [07:52] I have to go to bed! [07:52] ^_^ thx [07:52] enjoy your wireless freedom! [09:15] I am trying to find, if there, is an icon for DBGL short for DOSBox Game Launcher [09:17] Is there an icon for DBGL? [09:23] I guess not then [09:27] I got DOSBox Game Launcher working [09:27] The file called dbgl was supposed to be named dbgl.sh [09:27] I made a launcher to it which makes it nice [09:28] Meka didn't work in the end, but DOSBox Game Launcher is nice to have [09:30] I am going to try installing Hardy Heron and installing wine 1.0 then there will be a deb package under /var/cache/apt/archives/ [09:31] ray_: Just as a matter of curiosity why Hardy Heron? [09:32] Then I can try installing that on Ubuntu 10.04, but I am going to do it on my experimental hard drive. Then I will try installing the newest wine playinlinux has to offer [09:32] It's a long shot which is for fun anyhow [09:33] Meka works best on Wine 1.0 which is what Ubuntu Hardy Heron has for wine [09:34] I've tried using Wine 1.0 through Playonlinux. It didn't work out what so ever. [09:34] Anyways, I am just mucking about. [09:37] ray_: I have never really used wine but the wine pages seem to say that newer Wine works ok with meka : http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6478&iTestingId=12953 [09:38] I just re-installed Ubuntu 10.04, and I just installed CLI Companion. duanedesign said he was going to add a couple of features to it [09:38] What command would fill the terminal a few screens [09:38] ? [09:39] Oops with 1.1.31 [09:40] It doesn't have good sound, it doesn't go to fulscreen, and because it doesn't go to fullscreen it also lets the mouse go out of the window back into wine which sucks. [09:41] Meka has a neat feature for shooting games that lets the mouse act as the lasergun [09:41] oic [09:41] It would be great if Kega Fusion had that feature [09:41] what does oic stand for? [09:42] oh I see [09:43] LOL [09:43] hehehehe :) [09:43] Another one to add to the list [09:45] So what command would fill the terminal so I can see if scroll back was added? The terminal doesn't let me scroll back which sucks sometimes, but maybe I missed out on keyboard short cuts that users like you would know about in the terminal. [09:47] Like for instance I have been reading this book for Using Opensuse which a program called nice which has keyboard shortcuts that can be used for more and less and so forth but I haven't tried it yet [09:47] ray_: You want to increase the scrollback buffer? [09:47] I can? [09:48] Ah ha. [09:48] I am not completely sure of what you are after but most terminals will allow you to increase or decrease the scrollback [09:48] I would prefer unlimited, but I am sure that could have it's draw back. [09:48] I didn't know [09:48] I use xfce terminal and this option is available in Edit --- Preferences --- General [09:49] Set at 1000 lines atm [09:49] It's under edit, profile preferences, scrolling [09:49] It can be set to how many lines or unlimited [09:50] ray_: You are using gnome's terminal? [09:50] Yep [09:50] I also have CLI Companion installed [09:50] It is a little more fully featured than xfce's offering from memory [09:50] Hmmm..... don't know this ne [09:50] one [09:51] Well, I am sure they all have there neat features though [09:51] Though I haven't tried anything else [09:52] I see a screenshot: it has a list of commands + meanings above the actual erminal? [09:52] http://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/okwiki/clicompanion [09:52] https://launchpad.net/clicompanion [09:53] you mean cli companion? [09:53] Hmmm... decreases the work space a little [09:53] It has the feature to be able to add commands you want to to the list above [09:54] and [09:54] for making more room there is an arrow that can make the list go away [09:54] Still though it does decrease space a little but it's not bad [09:55] Nice, I have not heard of this one before. Mind you I am somewhat of a commandline junkie so I am reasonably comfortable with a bare terminal :) [09:55] I hear you dude [09:56] clear is a command I should remember [09:56] I will fill you in on some of what duanedesign told me [09:56] What sort of commandline applications are you interested in? [09:57] I am not sure I run any [09:57] I am likely going to try ktorrent [09:58] I am some what of a newbie, but I like to learn [09:58] About 2 years with Ubuntu [09:58] We are all beginners iin one way or another :) [09:58] lol, ya, everything takes time [09:59] OK, so if I click on a command listed in cli companion right click edit [09:59] example [10:00] "ps auxww | grep ?" [10:00] under user input:process [10:00] decription:displays information about the active process [10:00] what that wasn't a good exmple of what the question marks do [10:01] When a question mark is shown it is for the user to put input in like for instance a path [10:02] like for instance: [10:02] command"find -maxdepth 1 -type f | xargs grep -F ?" [10:03] user input:string [10:03] description:Search all regular files for 'string' in this dir [10:04] Any command can be added, and when added with a question mark the user can make it so the user can type a path or a string or what ever else a user can specify in place of the question mark or marks [10:04] CLI Companion is a neat program [10:05] Sounds interesting [10:05] No, I have run at least a couple commandline apps [10:05] well emulators [10:05] dega [10:05] dgen didn't work [10:05] BTW for find I rewrote this one a while back: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/find [10:06] I want to try to get mednafen to worl [10:06] * andrew_46 suspects nobody has ever used this page :( [10:06] mednafen? [10:07] OIC --> emulator [10:07] ya [10:08] You might be interested to know that the development version of vlc is capable of playback of many of the old game console music [10:09] That's neat. [10:09] I use SMPlayer, it has slow motion [10:10] From the repository? [10:10] You made me laugh when you said: suspects nobody has ever used this page:( [10:10] My frown is wrong? [10:11] I have written several guides / wikis that have sunk due to the indifference of many :( [10:11] Ya, it is in the repository [10:11] * andrew_46 reaches for some tissues..... [10:12] I understand, that stinks [10:12] I've tried to write guides for me to use [10:12] I think the key is to think like an absolute beginner [10:12] examples are key [10:13] Perhaps you should place some online? [10:14] It has it's troubles of course, but perhaps I might, but where can I post them for free [10:14] on the other hand there is so many already [10:14] Ubuntu forums has a 'Tutorials and Tips' section [10:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=100 [10:14] Rigth, duh, I forget sometimes [10:15] OK, I got a question [10:15] I've gone to the Ubuntu forums and used the search bar, but where are the listings? [10:15] So I end up using google instead [10:16] listings? [10:16] Give me a little to make sure I was not being dumb [10:17] For example, what were you searchiing for? [10:17] I just searched for firefox [10:17] http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?do=process [10:19] Pretty broad search, is there a more specific problem like 'firefox flash youtube'? [10:19] I will try that then [10:19] same: [10:19] http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?do=process [10:20] I just don't get this [10:21] so like I said I use google and google ubuntu and the errr or topic or topics I am looking into [10:21] Sometimes the simple things get me [10:22] You don't see this: http://www.andrews-corner.org/tmp/screenshot.png [10:22] ? [10:22] Nope [10:24] Hmmmm..... is there an error message on the page that you get to? [10:24] I go to here: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?do=process then I go to the box that says search by keyword and I put firefox flash youtube in it and the same page pops back up [10:24] Are you logged into the forums? [10:24] what [10:24] 1. The answer given for the random question was incorrect. [10:25] that was the error [10:25] oic, you are not logged in and must answer an annoying question before your search will work [10:25] I am not logged on, do I have to be? [10:25] O, I didn't know [10:25] No, but you must answer a question below your search [10:25] scroll down :) [10:26] O, it's a human prove I am not a bot question [10:26] indeed [10:26] I didn't see that before [10:26] But loggiing in is easier? [10:27] Another thing in the bag [10:27] Thank you [10:27] I wish all questions were as easy to solve :) [10:28] he he, ya, me too [10:28] I've seen hell before, it's always good to have a backup of all our info [10:29] Indeed I use an external drive [10:29] I want to learn how to dual boot windows with Linux but I can see hell just trying to learn how to un-install one or the other. [10:29] I don't care what anyone says it's not easy [10:30] Another choice is to use a program like Virtualbox to run other operating systems [10:30] The possibility of loosing info if that is where all my info is would just be asking for it [10:31] I've haven't tried that yet [10:31] There is so much to try [10:32] Virtualbox is well worth a try and there is a specific section of the Ubuntu Forums for assistance if you have trouble [10:33] You know what would be great? [10:33] LOL [10:33] ? [10:34] sorry I couldn't help it [10:34] A terminal that would teacher beginners [10:34] That would say now type this and so forth and talk to new users [10:35] in text [10:35] That works but doen't let the beginner mess up and doesn't really do anything out side of a folder that only takes up to much space [10:36] And if the user messes up the terminal will tell the user what the command does [10:36] I have not seen this application yet :) [10:37] But almost all commands have a relevant man page [10:37] Right [10:37] Sometimes, especially when I first started the man page was another language [10:38] I meant started out [10:38] Not all are terribly clear [10:38] The order is what got me [10:39] What programs in the terminal do you like? [10:40] I am a huge fan of the media player MPlayer, the newsreader slrn and the irc client irssi [10:41] I have been using apt-get as my way of installing packages in the terminal [10:41] + mutt for mail [10:42] SMPlayer, which you mentioned, is a frontend for MPlayer [10:42] O [10:42] so then I must have it installed [10:43] There must be other frontends for MPlayer [10:44] Another world [10:44] yes, try this command [10:44] mplayer | head -n 1 [10:44] "Creating config file: /home/ray/.mplayer/config" [10:45] This will show the version of MPlayer, version of gcc it was compiled with and date of release [10:45] Run the command again :) [10:45] Well now it does [10:45] lol [10:46] The head -n 1 command gives only the first line of output :) [10:46] I put in mplayer [10:46] I like the simple way it has things layed out compared to the indepth man page [10:47] :) [10:47] The command mplayer you mean? [10:47] yep [10:48] This is some introductory commands to get you going, the MPlayer man page is actually not a good example: to much info and not well organised :( [10:48] I am going to try it, I was closing a bunch of windows that were open [10:49] O, don't be sad, they will fix it [10:49] LOL [10:49] url, neat [10:49] I got a question [10:50] here we go again [10:50] lol [10:50] If I go to a webpage with a video [10:50] how can I make it so I can watch from where I was last watching? [10:51] I've watched videos on the internet and it stops loading etc [10:52] what's the best program for what I am trying to ask? [10:52] well the one you recommand [10:53] Hmmmm..... It depends how the media is actually served and whether it is cached or not. [10:54] cached it key, I know. I've used the tmp folder and the firefox cache folder to watch movie. [10:54] For flash you have little choice for others I usually use the gecko mediaplayer which uses MPlayer [10:54] I am not actually on Ubuntu at the moment so i am not sure of the package name [10:55] I was watching the file cached to see if info was being put there [10:56] kde [10:56] http://sites.google.com/site/kdekorte2/gecko-mediaplayer [10:56] A plugin [10:56] A plugin for Firefox? [10:57] But this is available in the repository, so have a look in synaptic for the package name, unless the silent room can volunteer the name :) [10:57] I found this but I will check there: [10:57] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514064 [10:58] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8936681&postcount=2 [10:58] gives the relevant commands [10:59] an old post of mine :) [11:00] A multi-media plugin for gecko browsers. I've only heard of a few browsers. [11:02] The link you gave deals with getdeb and source, neither of which are what you are really after [11:02] ooops I have to go [11:02] It's OK [11:02] Take care dude [11:02] nice to 'meet' you though, we will probably bump into each other in future [11:23] Hello ! [11:23] Need help : Are there any way to get the linksys wusb54gc to work in ubuntu? [11:23] hello [11:28] ray_: hello. Good to hear you are liking cli companion :) [11:40] I am sorry I was playing a video using mplayer through the terminal. [11:40] Malcolm in the Middle [11:41] It will be useful in the future. I still need to get off my Behind and gather useful commands [11:45] Well useful commands for me to use [12:09] wow [12:09] theres a file name limit? [12:09] -_- [12:16] Yes, 254 bytes on ext[2-4] iirc. [12:22] ray_: A good start for finding useful commands, is to learn how the apropos (or man -k) command works. [12:23] man -k, apropos [12:24] e.g. try: apropos movie [12:25] I am talking to someone else [12:25] right now [12:26] not out of dis-respect though [12:26] hi [12:26] hi [12:26] now we are all here [12:26] addon [12:27] I wonder what addon firefox has for what I asked you lastk [12:27] http://www.orbitdownloader.com/flv-downloader/download-flv-firefox.htm [12:27] Quote myself from the talk we had so they know what we are talking about: [12:27] When watching videos online, I hate it when I've watched half of a video then it reloads, is there a better way or program to get around this [12:28] Wow, neat [12:28] Wow, that is what I have been looking for, thank you [12:29] bookmarked [12:29] ;) [12:29] I can't wait to try it. [12:30] geirha said ealier try apropos movie, he is showing me how to use the apropos command [12:31] sorry, what is apropos? [12:31] I don't know yet [12:31] try the command:apropos movie [12:31] It listed the different programs that can play movies installed [12:31] I think [12:32] oh, nice [12:32] this is a ubuntu command right? [12:32] idont use ubuntu heheh [12:32] uuh, where did they go? [12:32] he said also try man -k [12:33] it says apropos what? [12:34] I guess it is a ubuntu command but don't know [12:34] ah, I see [12:34] man -k apt-get [12:35] what commands are like man? [12:36] O, you don't use Ubuntu, OK that cool [12:36] What are you running? [12:36] hello geirha :) [12:36] archlinux [12:37] Hello duanedesign [12:37] apropos is not an ubuntu command, but it's not a standard unix command either, some systems have it, some don't. [12:37] Regardless, your system will have man, and man -k will do the same. [12:37] duanedesign: Hi :) [12:37] I never tried archlinux [12:37] I've mostly used Ubuntu [12:38] My uncle uses Madrake [12:38] :) [12:38] geirha: hmmm, what is the -k for. Guess I could do man man to find out :) [12:38] well, Iwill eat something [12:38] see ya [12:38] see ya and thank you [12:39] ya, man man [12:39] geirha: aha, that is cool [12:39] thank you too [12:39] ray_ : ? [12:39] talking to me? [12:39] see ya [12:39]