[00:15] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[00:15] <kristian-aalborg> http://damieng.com/blog/2008/05/26/envy-code-r-preview-7-coding-font-released <--- can I use this on the console, it is truetype
[00:26] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Yes, just change the font settings in gnome-terminal
[00:27] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: Edit > Profile Preferences... > Uncheck "use system font" and select your own
[00:37] <kristian-aalborg> hi aveilleux
[00:37] <kristian-aalborg> I was being unclear... I meant for the framebuffer
[00:39] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: No, the kernel doesn't support TTF fonts. You'd have to load an X server and use its font renderers
[00:39] <kristian-aalborg> it seems I have to use fbterm or something like that
[00:39] <kristian-aalborg> yeah
[00:40] <kristian-aalborg> this one was just mentioned as a "programmers" font so many places that I thought I was missing something :/
[00:40] <aveilleux> kristian-aalborg: They mean it's a good monospace font to use when coding.
[00:40] <kristian-aalborg> so it seems.... bugger, it's a nice-looking font
[01:37] <jonstanford> need some advice after the last update broke the ability of a clean boot with grub2
[01:38] <jonstanford> I think I want to back out the update and try again because the fault is that the boot loader can't read initrd.img (corrupt?)
[01:39] <jonstanford> So, my question is how to get the last update to .29 to reload
[01:44] <jonstanford> I can boot from the grub2 recovery console into the last good image  by loading the last linux kernel and the last good initrd.img then issuing a boot command.
[01:54] <kristian-aalborg> would anyone know some nice console fonts, apart from Tamsyn and Terminus?
[03:46] <johnny77> is there an aptitude history?
[03:47] <aveilleux> johnny77, You can do cat ~/.bash_history |grep apt
[03:48] <johnny77> aveilleux: I was think of more of what was installed recently. I did a sudo aptitude upgrade then sudo aptitude install xorg and now something screwed up.
[03:50] <aveilleux> johnny77, Oh, what packages were recently installed? Run a sudo aptitude purge xorg, and see what packages get marked for removal. Those would be the ones installed.
[03:51] <johnny77> aveilleux: can I purge an upgrade?
[03:52] <aveilleux> johnny77, Not that I'm aware of
[03:53] <johnny77> aveilleux: I figured it out... somthing in the upgrade or xorg blacklisted my driver!
[03:54] <aveilleux> johnny77, Interesting.
[03:55] <aveilleux> johnny77, Are you trying to build up from a CLI install?
[03:55] <johnny77> aveilleux: yes... it's been quite an adventure, but I've learned loads!!
[03:56] <aveilleux> johnny77, Something that'll help: install xinit instead of xorg (xorg gets installed as a dependency, and x11 is set up to run at boot time)
[03:57] <johnny77> aveilleux: maybe i'm still a little new or just really tired, but can you explain that a little better.
[03:57] <johnny77> wait... hold on. let me think I want to guess
[03:58] <johnny77> If I install xinit, xorg also gets installed plus I won't have to type startx, it'll load automatically. Is that right.
[03:58] <aveilleux> johnny77, Exactly
[03:59] <johnny77> \o/  Yay!!!!
[03:59] <aveilleux> johnny77, What desktop environment are you planning on using?
[03:59] <johnny77> fluxbox
[04:00] <johnny77> now that xorg is install i don't have to purge, but just install xinit.
[04:00] <aveilleux> johnny77, That's correct
[04:00] <aveilleux> johnny77, Something that might help you is the Fluxbox portion of my script: https://github.com/AntonioPT/minimal-desktop-for-ubuntu/blob/master/script.sh#L176
[04:00] <pleia2> johnny77: /var/log/dpkg.log
[04:01] <pleia2> (for future reference)
[04:02] <johnny77> pleia2: is that the install history?
[04:02] <pleia2> yep
[04:02] <johnny77> aveilleux: thanks. Is that kind of a automated install?
[04:03] <aveilleux> johnny77, Yep. See also: http://minimal-desktop.sublevel21.com/generator/
[04:03] <johnny77> pleia2: does it matter what you use to install ie apt-get vs aptitude?
[04:04] <pleia2> johnny77: nope, both use dpkg and that's what the log is actually tracking
[04:06] <johnny77> aveilleux: that's really cool - the second link
[04:06] <aveilleux> johnny77, Er, apparently the Fluxbox portion is broken right now. I have an email to send.
[04:08] <johnny77> aveilleux & pleia2: Thank you! But it's not time to go to bed.. see ya, take it easy.
[04:08] <pleia2> good night :)
[04:09] <aveilleux> See ya
[07:14] <xAndromeda> Hey! so i cant gety my wireless to work O.o
[07:17] <Cheri703> did it work before?
[07:20] <Cheri703> xAndromeda: did you have wireless at any point in the past on that computer?
[07:38] <xAndromeda> back!  lol no i dont remember it ever working...
[07:38] <xAndromeda> i googled it but came up with nothing said sothing about an arthero driver
[07:39] <xAndromeda> clueless O.o
[07:39] <Cheri703> I'm assuming you have a wired connection?
[07:39] <xAndromeda> yes
[07:40] <Cheri703> have you tried system > administration > drivers?
[07:40] <Cheri703> or hardware drivers?
[07:40] <Cheri703> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[07:40] <xAndromeda> 10.10
[07:41] <Cheri703> k
[07:41] <xAndromeda> i only see a additional drivers
[07:41] <xAndromeda> under system admin
[07:41] <Cheri703> try that
[07:41] <xAndromeda> says no proprietary drivers evyerthing else is blank
[07:41] <Cheri703> k
[07:42] <Cheri703> desktop or laptop? I think you'd said laptop, yes?
[07:42] <xAndromeda> yeah laptop
[07:42] <Cheri703> k
[07:42] <Cheri703> does the bottom of it name the wireless chipset or anything? sometimes it's printed on there
[07:42] <Cheri703> and/or what's the make/model of the laptop?
[07:43] <xAndromeda> no it dosnt appear to be, its a HP G60 - 538CA
[07:44] <Cheri703> on your network icon, right click and see if there's an option for wireless
[07:45] <Cheri703> and/or is there a hardware button/switch/something to turn on/off wireless?
[07:45] <xAndromeda> theres a hw button for wireless but it dosnt work
[07:45] <Cheri703> k, did you check the network icon?
[07:46] <xAndromeda> wireless disconnected not showing any networks
[07:46] <xAndromeda> and i know there is one cuz my cell is connected to it right now
[07:46] <Cheri703> did you right click on it?
[07:47] <xAndromeda> yes
[07:47] <Cheri703> and it shows wireless? enabled or?
[07:47] <xAndromeda> enabled
[07:47] <Cheri703> ok, so then it's recognizing that you HAVE a card...
[07:47] <Cheri703> hmmm...is this a newer or older laptop?
[07:48] <xAndromeda> i bought it about 2.5 years ago... idk how new the model is
[07:49] <Cheri703> do you know if your router is set to b, g, or n?
[07:50] <xAndromeda> no idea O.o
[07:50] <xAndromeda> how would i check?
[07:50] <Cheri703> ok, try choosing "connect to hidden wireless network" and typing in the name of your wireless connection
[07:50] <Cheri703> you'd have to log into the router, don't worry about it
[07:51] <Cheri703> it is case specific
[07:51] <xAndromeda> ok that worked O.o
[07:51] <xAndromeda> awsum :D
[07:51] <xAndromeda> why is it hidden though? O.o
[07:52] <Cheri703> don't know
[07:52] <Cheri703> but cool
[07:52] <xAndromeda> i could see it on pretty much eveyr other divice
[07:52] <Cheri703> glad you're connected :)
[07:52] <Cheri703> I have to go to bed!
[07:52] <xAndromeda> ^_^ thx
[07:52] <Cheri703> enjoy your wireless freedom!
[09:15] <ray_> I am trying to find, if there, is an icon for DBGL short for DOSBox Game Launcher
[09:17] <ray_> Is there an icon for DBGL?
[09:23] <ray_> I guess not then
[09:27] <ray_> I got DOSBox Game Launcher working
[09:27] <ray_> The file called dbgl was supposed to be named dbgl.sh
[09:27] <ray_> I made a launcher to it which makes it nice
[09:28] <ray_> Meka didn't work in the end, but DOSBox Game Launcher is nice to have
[09:30] <ray_> I am going to try installing Hardy Heron and installing wine 1.0 then there will be a deb package under /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:31] <andrew_46> ray_: Just as a matter of curiosity why Hardy Heron?
[09:32] <ray_> Then I can try installing that on Ubuntu 10.04, but I am going to do it on my experimental hard drive. Then I will try installing the newest wine playinlinux has to offer
[09:32] <ray_> It's a long shot which is for fun anyhow
[09:33] <ray_> Meka works best on Wine 1.0 which is what Ubuntu Hardy Heron has for wine
[09:34] <ray_> I've tried using Wine 1.0 through Playonlinux. It didn't work out what so ever.
[09:34] <ray_> Anyways, I am just mucking about.
[09:37] <andrew_46> ray_: I have never really used wine but the wine pages seem to say that newer Wine works ok with meka : http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=6478&iTestingId=12953
[09:38] <ray_> I just re-installed Ubuntu 10.04, and I just installed CLI Companion. duanedesign said he was going to add a couple of features to it
[09:38] <ray_> What command would fill the terminal a few screens
[09:38] <ray_> ?
[09:39] <andrew_46> Oops with 1.1.31
[09:40] <ray_> It doesn't have good sound, it doesn't go to fulscreen, and because it doesn't go to fullscreen it also lets the mouse go out of the window back into wine which sucks.
[09:41] <ray_> Meka has a neat feature for shooting games that lets the mouse act as the lasergun
[09:41] <andrew_46> oic
[09:41] <ray_> It would be great if Kega Fusion had that feature
[09:41] <ray_> what does oic stand for?
[09:42] <ray_> oh I see
[09:43] <ray_> LOL
[09:43] <andrew_46> hehehehe :)
[09:43] <ray_> Another one to add to the list
[09:45] <ray_> So what command would fill the terminal so I can see if scroll back was added? The terminal doesn't let me scroll back which sucks sometimes, but maybe I missed out on keyboard short cuts that users like you would know about in the terminal.
[09:47] <ray_> Like for instance I have been reading this book for Using Opensuse which a program called nice which has keyboard shortcuts that can be used for more and less and so forth but I haven't tried it yet
[09:47] <andrew_46> ray_: You want to increase the scrollback buffer?
[09:47] <ray_> I can?
[09:48] <ray_> Ah ha.
[09:48] <andrew_46> I am not completely sure of what you are after but most terminals will allow you to increase or decrease the scrollback
[09:48] <ray_> I would prefer unlimited, but I am sure that could have it's draw back.
[09:48] <ray_> I didn't know
[09:48] <andrew_46> I use xfce terminal and this option is available in Edit --- Preferences --- General
[09:49] <andrew_46> Set at 1000 lines atm
[09:49] <ray_> It's under edit, profile preferences, scrolling
[09:49] <ray_> It can be set to how many lines or unlimited
[09:50] <andrew_46> ray_: You are using gnome's terminal?
[09:50] <ray_> Yep
[09:50] <ray_> I also have CLI Companion installed
[09:50] <andrew_46> It is a little more fully featured than xfce's offering from memory
[09:50] <andrew_46> Hmmm..... don't know this ne
[09:50] <andrew_46> one
[09:51] <ray_> Well, I am sure they all have there neat features though
[09:51] <ray_> Though I haven't tried anything else
[09:52] <andrew_46> I see a screenshot: it has a list of commands + meanings above the actual erminal?
[09:52] <ray_> http://okiebuntu.homelinux.com/okwiki/clicompanion
[09:52] <ray_> https://launchpad.net/clicompanion
[09:53] <ray_> you mean cli companion?
[09:53] <andrew_46> Hmmm... decreases the work space a little
[09:53] <ray_> It has the feature to be able to add commands you want to to the list above
[09:54] <ray_> and
[09:54] <ray_> for making more room there is an arrow that can make the list go away
[09:54] <ray_> Still though it does decrease space a little but it's not bad
[09:55] <andrew_46> Nice, I have not heard of this one before. Mind you I am somewhat of a commandline junkie so I am reasonably comfortable with a bare terminal :)
[09:55] <ray_> I hear you dude
[09:56] <ray_> clear is a command I should remember
[09:56] <ray_> I will fill you in on some of what duanedesign told me
[09:56] <andrew_46> What sort of commandline applications are you interested in?
[09:57] <ray_> I am not sure I run any
[09:57] <ray_> I am likely going to try ktorrent
[09:58] <ray_> I am some what of a newbie, but I like to learn
[09:58] <ray_> About 2 years with Ubuntu
[09:58] <andrew_46> We are all beginners iin one way or another :)
[09:58] <ray_> lol, ya, everything takes time
[09:59] <ray_> OK, so if I click on a command listed in cli companion right click edit
[09:59] <ray_> example
[10:00] <ray_> "ps auxww | grep ?"
[10:00] <ray_> under user input:process
[10:00] <ray_> decription:displays information about the active process
[10:00] <ray_> what that wasn't a good exmple of what the question marks do
[10:01] <ray_> When a question mark is shown it is for the user to put input in like for instance a path
[10:02] <ray_> like for instance:
[10:02] <ray_> command"find -maxdepth 1 -type f | xargs grep -F ?"
[10:03] <ray_> user input:string
[10:03] <ray_> description:Search all regular files for 'string' in this dir
[10:04] <ray_> Any command can be added, and when added with a question mark the user can make it so the user can type a path or a string or what ever else a user can specify in place of the question mark or marks
[10:04] <ray_> CLI Companion is a neat program
[10:05] <andrew_46> Sounds interesting
[10:05] <ray_> No, I have run at least a couple commandline apps
[10:05] <ray_> well emulators
[10:05] <ray_> dega
[10:05] <ray_> dgen didn't work
[10:05] <andrew_46> BTW for find I rewrote this one a while back: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/find
[10:06] <ray_> I want to try to get mednafen to worl
[10:06]  * andrew_46 suspects nobody has ever used this page :(
[10:06] <andrew_46> mednafen?
[10:07] <andrew_46> OIC --> emulator
[10:07] <ray_> ya
[10:08] <andrew_46> You might be interested to know that the development version of vlc is capable of playback of many of the old game console music
[10:09] <ray_> That's neat.
[10:09] <ray_> I use SMPlayer, it has slow motion
[10:10] <andrew_46> From the repository?
[10:10] <ray_> You made me laugh when you said: suspects nobody has ever used this page:(
[10:10] <ray_> My frown is wrong?
[10:11] <andrew_46> I have written several guides / wikis that have sunk due to the indifference of many :(
[10:11] <ray_> Ya, it is in the repository
[10:11]  * andrew_46 reaches for some tissues.....
[10:12] <ray_> I understand, that stinks
[10:12] <ray_> I've tried to write guides for me to use
[10:12] <ray_> I think the key is to think like an absolute beginner
[10:12] <ray_> examples are key
[10:13] <andrew_46> Perhaps you should place some online?
[10:14] <ray_> It has it's troubles of course, but perhaps I might, but where can I post them for free
[10:14] <ray_> on the other hand there is so many already
[10:14] <andrew_46> Ubuntu forums has a 'Tutorials and Tips' section
[10:14] <andrew_46> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=100
[10:14] <ray_> Rigth, duh, I forget sometimes
[10:15] <ray_> OK, I got a question
[10:15] <ray_> I've gone to the Ubuntu forums and used the search bar, but where are the listings?
[10:15] <ray_> So I end up using google instead
[10:16] <andrew_46> listings?
[10:16] <ray_> Give me a little to make sure I was not being dumb
[10:17] <andrew_46> For example, what were you searchiing for?
[10:17] <ray_> I just searched for firefox
[10:17] <ray_> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?do=process
[10:19] <andrew_46> Pretty broad search, is there a more specific problem like 'firefox flash youtube'?
[10:19] <ray_> I will try that then
[10:19] <ray_> same:
[10:19] <ray_> http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?do=process
[10:20] <ray_> I just don't get this
[10:21] <ray_> so like I said I use google and google ubuntu and the errr or topic or topics I am looking into
[10:21] <ray_> Sometimes the simple things get me
[10:22] <andrew_46> You don't see this: http://www.andrews-corner.org/tmp/screenshot.png
[10:22] <andrew_46> ?
[10:22] <ray_> Nope
[10:24] <andrew_46> Hmmmm..... is there an error message on the page that you get to?
[10:24] <ray_> I go to here: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?do=process then I go to the box that says search by keyword and I put firefox flash youtube in it and the same page pops back up
[10:24] <andrew_46> Are you logged into the forums?
[10:24] <ray_> what
[10:24] <ray_>    1. The answer given for the random question was incorrect.
[10:25] <ray_> that was the error
[10:25] <andrew_46> oic, you are not logged in and must answer an annoying question before your search will work
[10:25] <ray_> I am not logged on, do I have to be?
[10:25] <ray_> O, I didn't know
[10:25] <andrew_46> No, but you must answer a question below your search
[10:25] <andrew_46> scroll down :)
[10:26] <ray_> O, it's a human prove I am not a bot question
[10:26] <andrew_46> indeed
[10:26] <ray_> I didn't see that before
[10:26] <andrew_46> But loggiing in is easier?
[10:27] <ray_> Another thing in the bag
[10:27] <ray_> Thank you
[10:27] <andrew_46> I wish all questions were as easy to solve :)
[10:28] <ray_> he he, ya, me too
[10:28] <ray_> I've seen hell before, it's always good to have a backup of all our info
[10:29] <andrew_46> Indeed I use an external drive
[10:29] <ray_> I want to learn how to dual boot windows with Linux but I can see hell just trying to learn how to un-install one or the other.
[10:29] <ray_> I don't care what anyone says it's not easy
[10:30] <andrew_46> Another choice is to use a program like Virtualbox to run other operating systems
[10:30] <ray_> The possibility of loosing info if that is where all my info is would just be asking for it
[10:31] <ray_> I've haven't tried that yet
[10:31] <ray_> There is so much to try
[10:32] <andrew_46> Virtualbox is well worth a try and there is a specific section of the Ubuntu Forums for assistance if you have trouble
[10:33] <ray_> You know what would be great?
[10:33] <ray_> LOL
[10:33] <andrew_46> ?
[10:34] <ray_> sorry I couldn't help it
[10:34] <ray_> A terminal that would teacher beginners
[10:34] <ray_> That would say now type this and so forth and talk to new users
[10:35] <ray_> in text
[10:35] <ray_> That works but doen't let the beginner mess up and doesn't really do anything out side of a folder that only takes up to much space
[10:36] <ray_> And if the user messes up the terminal will tell the user what the command does
[10:36] <andrew_46> I have not seen this application yet :)
[10:37] <andrew_46> But almost all commands have a relevant man page
[10:37] <ray_> Right
[10:37] <ray_> Sometimes, especially when I first started the man page was another language
[10:38] <ray_> I meant started out
[10:38] <andrew_46> Not all are terribly clear
[10:38] <ray_> The order is what got me
[10:39] <ray_> What programs in the terminal do you like?
[10:40] <andrew_46> I am a huge fan of the media player MPlayer, the newsreader slrn and the irc client irssi
[10:41] <ray_> I have been using apt-get as my way of installing packages in the terminal
[10:41] <andrew_46> + mutt for mail
[10:42] <andrew_46> SMPlayer, which you mentioned, is a frontend for MPlayer
[10:42] <ray_> O
[10:42] <ray_> so then I must have it installed
[10:43] <ray_> There must be other frontends for MPlayer
[10:44] <ray_> Another world
[10:44] <andrew_46> yes, try this command
[10:44] <andrew_46> mplayer | head -n 1
[10:44] <ray_> "Creating config file: /home/ray/.mplayer/config"
[10:45] <andrew_46> This will show the version of MPlayer, version of gcc it was compiled with and date of release
[10:45] <andrew_46> Run the command again :)
[10:45] <ray_> Well now it does
[10:45] <ray_> lol
[10:46] <andrew_46> The head -n 1 command gives only the first line of output :)
[10:46] <ray_> I put in mplayer
[10:46] <ray_> I like the simple way it has things layed out compared to the indepth man page
[10:47] <ray_> :)
[10:47] <andrew_46> The command mplayer you mean?
[10:47] <ray_> yep
[10:48] <andrew_46> This is some introductory commands to get you going, the MPlayer man page is actually not a good example: to much info and not well organised :(
[10:48] <ray_> I am going to try it, I was closing a bunch of windows that were open
[10:49] <ray_> O, don't be sad, they will fix it
[10:49] <ray_> LOL
[10:49] <ray_> url, neat
[10:49] <ray_> I got a question
[10:50] <ray_> here we go again
[10:50] <ray_> lol
[10:50] <ray_> If I go to a webpage with a video
[10:50] <ray_> how can I make it so I can watch from where I was last watching?
[10:51] <ray_> I've watched videos on the internet and it stops loading etc
[10:52] <ray_> what's the best program for what I am trying to ask?
[10:52] <ray_> well the one you recommand
[10:53] <andrew_46> Hmmmm..... It depends how the media is actually served and whether it is cached or not.
[10:54] <ray_> cached it key, I know. I've used the tmp folder and the firefox cache folder to watch movie.
[10:54] <andrew_46> For flash you have little choice for others I usually use the gecko mediaplayer which uses MPlayer
[10:54] <andrew_46> I am not actually on Ubuntu at the moment so i am not sure of the package name
[10:55] <ray_> I was watching the file cached to see if info was being put there
[10:56] <ray_> kde
[10:56] <ray_> http://sites.google.com/site/kdekorte2/gecko-mediaplayer
[10:56] <ray_> A plugin
[10:56] <ray_> A plugin for Firefox?
[10:57] <andrew_46> But this is available in the repository, so have a look in synaptic for the package name, unless the silent room can volunteer the name :)
[10:57] <ray_> I found this but I will check there:
[10:57] <ray_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=514064
[10:58] <andrew_46> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8936681&postcount=2
[10:58] <andrew_46> gives the relevant commands
[10:59] <andrew_46> an old post of mine :)
[11:00] <ray_> A multi-media plugin for gecko browsers. I've only heard of a few browsers.
[11:02] <andrew_46> The link you gave deals with getdeb and source, neither of which are what you are really after
[11:02] <andrew_46> ooops I have to go
[11:02] <ray_> It's OK
[11:02] <ray_> Take care dude
[11:02] <andrew_46> nice to 'meet' you though, we will probably bump into each other in future
[11:23] <apter> Hello !
[11:23] <apter> Need help : Are there any way to get the linksys wusb54gc to work in ubuntu?
[11:23] <duanedesign> hello
[11:28] <duanedesign> ray_: hello. Good to hear you are liking cli companion :)
[11:40] <ray_> I am sorry I was playing a video using mplayer through the terminal.
[11:40] <ray_> Malcolm in the Middle
[11:41] <ray_> It will be useful in the future. I still need to get off my Behind and gather useful commands
[11:45] <ray_> Well useful commands for me to use
[12:09] <xAndromeda> wow
[12:09] <xAndromeda> theres a file name limit?
[12:09] <xAndromeda> -_-
[12:16] <geirha> Yes, 254 bytes on ext[2-4] iirc.
[12:22] <geirha> ray_: A good start for finding useful commands, is to learn how the apropos (or man -k) command works.
[12:23] <ray_> man -k, apropos
[12:24] <geirha> e.g. try:  apropos movie
[12:25] <ray_> I am talking to someone else
[12:25] <ray_> right now
[12:26] <ray_> not out of dis-respect though
[12:26] <lastk> hi
[12:26] <ray_> hi
[12:26] <ray_> now we are all here
[12:26] <ray_> addon
[12:27] <ray_> I wonder what addon firefox has for what I asked you lastk
[12:27] <lastk> http://www.orbitdownloader.com/flv-downloader/download-flv-firefox.htm
[12:27] <ray_> Quote myself from the talk we had so they know what we are talking about:
[12:27] <ray_> When watching videos online, I hate it when I've watched half of a video then it reloads, is there a better way or program to get around this
[12:28] <ray_> Wow, neat
[12:28] <ray_> Wow, that is what I have been looking for, thank you
[12:29] <ray_> bookmarked
[12:29] <lastk> ;)
[12:29] <ray_> I can't wait to try it.
[12:30] <ray_> geirha said ealier try apropos movie, he is showing me how to use the apropos command
[12:31] <lastk> sorry, what is apropos?
[12:31] <ray_> I don't know yet
[12:31] <ray_> try the command:apropos movie
[12:31] <ray_> It listed the different programs that can play movies installed
[12:31] <ray_> I think
[12:32] <lastk> oh,  nice
[12:32] <lastk> this is a ubuntu command right?
[12:32] <lastk> idont use ubuntu heheh
[12:32] <ray_> uuh, where did they go?
[12:32] <ray_> he said also try man -k
[12:33] <ray_> it says apropos what?
[12:34] <ray_> I guess it is a ubuntu command but  don't know
[12:34] <ray_> ah, I see
[12:34] <ray_> man -k apt-get
[12:35] <ray_> what commands are like man?
[12:36] <ray_> O, you don't use Ubuntu, OK that cool
[12:36] <ray_> What are you running?
[12:36] <duanedesign> hello geirha :)
[12:36] <lastk> archlinux
[12:37] <ray_> Hello duanedesign
[12:37] <geirha> apropos is not an ubuntu command, but it's not a standard unix command either, some systems have it, some don't.
[12:37] <geirha> Regardless, your system will have man, and man -k will do the same.
[12:37] <geirha> duanedesign: Hi :)
[12:37] <ray_> I never tried archlinux
[12:37] <ray_> I've mostly used Ubuntu
[12:38] <ray_> My uncle uses Madrake
[12:38] <lastk> :)
[12:38] <duanedesign> geirha: hmmm, what is the -k for. Guess I could do man man to find out :)
[12:38] <lastk> well, Iwill eat something
[12:38] <lastk> see ya
[12:38] <ray_> see ya and thank you
[12:39] <ray_> ya, man man
[12:39] <duanedesign> geirha: aha, that is cool
[12:39] <lastk> thank you too
[12:39] <lastk> ray_ : ?
[12:39] <lastk> talking to me?
[12:39] <ray_> see ya
[12:39] <ray_> have good eats
[12:39] <duanedesign> arch is good if you want to have total control and compile everything by hand
[12:40] <ray_> Does it remember where things are installed?
[12:40] <geirha> It has a package manager named pacman iirc
[12:40] <ray_> checkinstall is the cammand I have to remember for installing from source when installing from source works out for me
[12:41] <ray_> iirc that sounds a lot like the irc commandline program
[12:41] <ray_> pacman, lol
[12:41] <geirha> checkinstall will only work for behaving build-scripts though. It "usually" works.
[12:42] <ray_> well, it doesn't matter too much to me
[12:42] <ray_> but it's nice to have comtrol
[12:42] <ray_> what about slackware?
[12:42] <ray_> Have you guys tried it?
[12:43] <ray_> Is Slackware as hardcore as it gets?
[12:43] <geirha> If you want hardcore, try LFS (linux from scratch).
[12:44] <duanedesign> LFS
[12:44] <duanedesign> d'oh, geirha beat me
[12:44] <duanedesign> after LFS, I would say Arch
[12:44] <ray_> lol, compiling linux from source?
[12:44] <duanedesign> build your own distro from scratch
[12:44] <geirha> Yes, you build a linux system from scratch
[12:45] <geirha> My knowledge of linux skyrocketed after going through that book.
[12:45] <duanedesign> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/
[12:45] <duanedesign> geirha: definetly
[12:45] <ray_> Crazy cool
[12:46] <duanedesign> it is kinda addicting and time consuming though :)
[12:46] <ray_> I've thought about stepping out to try Debian since I am using Ubuntu
[12:46] <duanedesign> Debian is very nice
[12:46] <duanedesign> I stick with UBuntu/Debian and Fedora
[12:47] <ray_> Customizable no worry of Ubuntu packages getting in the way, but I think I would mis having so much at my finger tips
[12:47] <ray_> Ubuntu is nice
[12:48] <ray_> Learning, so much I haven't learned
[12:48] <duanedesign> oh, and tinycore linux. I keep a copy of that on one of my old machines
[12:48] <ray_> Good thing I have an extra hard drive
[12:49] <ray_> O, man, I wanted to get the screen saver for Star Trek working we used to have
[12:49] <ray_> it was on Win 3.1
[12:49] <ray_> it was funny as all heck
[12:49] <ray_> I looked on youtube and couldn't find it
[12:50] <ray_> It had data dancing dances like the fox trot
[12:50] <ray_> Anyways about 4 to 8 months ago I tried Win 3.1 on dosbox
[12:50] <ray_> but I couldn't get that screen saver to work. Good times though
[12:51] <ray_> we make good times though
[12:51] <ray_> Thank you for the link
[12:53] <ray_> Sorry for going off topic
[12:54] <duanedesign> no worries. As long as it is slow like this I do not see a problem
[12:54] <ray_> I want to try out other Linux distros
[12:57] <ray_> I was just watching this video earlier:
[12:57] <ray_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfDXz6aRDhA
[12:57] <duanedesign> ray_: distrowatch is a good place to read about all kinds of distros
[12:58] <ray_> right distrowatch
[12:58] <ray_> I was around someone who liked gentoo
[12:58] <ray_> on myspace
[13:00] <ray_> Wil Wheaton uses Mandrake
[13:01] <duanedesign> gentoo has a nice wiki
[13:24] <ray_> I read the gentoo wiki, I am now checking out the LFS website you guys linked
[13:40] <ray_> Is the book for LFS scratch on this website: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ ?
[13:41] <ray_> I found BLFS
[13:41] <ray_> Is this it:
[13:41] <ray_> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/stable/
[13:42] <geirha> That's Beyond Linux From Scratch. Once you've completed LFS, you can continue with BLFS.
[13:42] <geirha> Yes, that's the one.
[13:44] <ray_> Right, this is BLFS: http://archive.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs-museum/1.0/BLFS-1.0/
[13:44] <ray_> the beginning of BLFS which is ever LFS
[13:45] <ray_> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/stable/
[13:58] <ray_> Is there a program like orbitdownloader for linux?
[13:58] <geirha> Perhaps ... what would a program like orbitdownloader do?
[13:59] <ray_> http://www.orbitdownloader.com/flv-downloader/download-flv-firefox.htm
[14:00] <ray_> Download videos like the addon downloadhelper for firefox
[14:00] <ray_> Though I am not sure if that would work, I should try it some time
[14:01] <ray_> I used to use Dhelper for youtube videos
[14:01] <ray_> I mean downloadhelper
[14:02] <geirha> I have no idea
[14:04] <JoeMaverickSett> ray_: ever tried DownThemAll?
[14:04] <JoeMaverickSett> ray_: it's like the Internet Download Manger for Firefox :)
[14:04] <ray_> never heard of it
[14:04] <JoeMaverickSett> let me get you a link
[14:05] <JoeMaverickSett> ray_: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/downthemall/ :)
[14:06] <ray_> Nice, it has pause and resume
[14:06] <JoeMaverickSett> yup
[14:07] <Synth_sam> Hi everyone, I need to install lucid on an external drive without overwriting the MBR of sda, do you think that I can do that with the alternate disc?
[14:10] <ray_> Thank you. Another helpful addon. I should go.
[14:10] <ray_> Thank you
[14:10] <BigMac> does anyone know when firefox 3.6.15 will be available in the repositories?
[14:13] <Synth_sam> not sure, any particular reason?
[14:14] <BigMac> yes, there's some java issues with the current release
[14:15] <Synth_sam> you could install from mozilla team ppa
[14:16] <JoeMaverickSett> the daily build has 3.6.16, there's no breakage yet...at least to me..
[14:16] <JoeMaverickSett> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[14:16] <BigMac> oh, i'm not very technical, i'm pretty much a n00b, how would i go about that
[14:16] <BigMac> oh, ok, thanks
[14:17] <JoeMaverickSett> well, if you're going to use it, bare in mind it's a daily build, so you might experience some breakage.
[14:17] <BigMac> ok, i might wait for the final release
[14:18] <JoeMaverickSett> that _would_ be a good idea. :)
[14:18] <BigMac> the reason i want the next release is that my net bank reported that the current version had some java malfunction, so i can't get into my net bank
[14:18] <BigMac> it's not a disaster tho
[14:18] <BigMac> cause i have a mac
[14:21] <BigMac> if i do as described at the launchpad site, will downloading a daily build update my firefox without any breakage, provided that the build itself is ok?
[14:30] <duanedesign> BigMac: yes.
[14:30] <JoeMaverickSett> i guess so. i've not had any breakage from daily builds apart from trying to pull in some unsuccessful/still building ppa(s) :D
[14:30] <JoeMaverickSett> D'oh!
[14:31] <duanedesign> BigMac: the easiest way to add the ppa is :  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa
[14:32] <duanedesign> BigMac: then this command should pick up the new version available:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:32] <BigMac> ok, thanks
[14:33] <BigMac> but if i do that, will i be able to update to the final release version of ff when it arrives?
[14:44] <ikt> heya, is there a command to tell whether I have the open source ati driver installed or the proprietary ati driver installed?
[14:44] <bioterror> dpkg -l |grep ati
[14:47] <ikt> bioterror, mmm anyway to search without including description?
[14:48] <bioterror> dpkg -l tells what you have on your system installed
[14:53] <ikt> yea
[14:54] <ikt> how do I know which is the open source driver and which is the proprietary one?
[14:54] <bioterror> radeonhd is opensource
[14:56] <ikt> ty
[15:41] <shaggy179> I changed monitors. from a 14" cathode ray to a 19" LCD (TV). want to chance display resulation. can't figure out where.
[15:42] <ray_> hello
[15:42] <wolfpack> hi ray_
[15:42] <ray_> I wanted to share something
[15:42] <ray_> Are the people I was talking to still around?
[15:44] <ray_> hello duanedesign and geirha
[15:44] <ray_> and hello wolfpack
[15:45] <duanedesign> hello ray_
[15:45] <ray_> I added the addon download them all
[15:45] <ray_> rather downthemall
[15:45] <ray_> and I couldn't get it to download videos
[15:46] <ray_> so I downloaded downloadhelper
[15:46] <ray_> and together I used them both to download a video from project free tv
[15:47] <ray_> It worked great
[15:47] <ray_> thank you duanedesign
[15:48] <ray_> I have yet to try it out more but it worked great so far
[15:48] <ray_> I watched the first episode of 3rd rock from the sun
[15:49] <duanedesign> ray_: that is great
[15:49] <ray_> thank you
[15:49] <ray_> finally, I can download and not worry if it is going to reload in the middle of watching a video
[15:50] <ray_> Thank you, I should go and get some sleep, good bye
[15:51] <duanedesign> o/
[15:51] <ray_> o/
[16:37] <Guest56472> hi,all,i hava a problem.i can ping a website but i can't open it by chrome
[16:37] <Guest56472> i open the resolv.conf,# Generated by NetworkManager
[16:37] <Guest56472> domain mshome.net
[16:37] <Guest56472> search mshome.net
[16:37] <Guest56472> nameserver 192.168.0.6
[16:38] <Guest56472> but it should be 1092.168.0.1,i change it ,but it re
[16:41] <Guest56472> who can help me
[19:17] <Cheri703> I am trying to use a liveCD on an OLD computer, and with 2 different versions (10.04 and 9.10) I am getting "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block" most of what I'm finding online is regarding an already installed system, so I'm not sure where to go from here
[19:17] <johnny77> I need to make a script of commands needing root privelages. Can I get that to run at startup without needing to type my password?
[19:24] <aveilleux> johnny77: put it into /etc/rc.local
[19:25] <Cheri703> I get the error if I try to run the disk check from the initial screen, or if I try to just install...
[19:29] <johnny77> aveilleux: thank you, once again!
[19:30] <aveilleux> johnny77: No problem
[19:31] <duanedesign> Cheri703: can you get the Live session to work on the LiveCD
[19:31] <Cheri703> nope
[19:32] <duanedesign> :\
[19:32] <Cheri703> I choose "try without installing" and get the error
[19:32] <Cheri703> it's an OLD computer, but I need the floppy drive...
[19:36] <duanedesign> Cheri703: could be a bad CD burn. Also check the md5of the download
[19:37] <Cheri703> both cds have worked in the past
[19:37] <Cheri703> and BOTH cds get the same error
[19:37] <duanedesign> hmmm
[19:39] <Cheri703> :/ it will boot into win98 though!
[19:39] <Cheri703> that's what's installed on it -_-
[19:39] <Cheri703> I might see if I can just steal the floppy out of it, my desktop doesn't like the one that's in it...
[19:41] <rainstake> permissions denied in UI when trying to rmdir .caine-from-deb, anyone know the answer to this dilemma?
[19:41] <duanedesign> sudo
[19:41] <duanedesign> oh in ui
[19:42] <duanedesign> rainstake: if you are trying to manipulate a file that is outside your users Home directory you will need t open a root version of nautilus
[19:42] <rainstake> I installed it from the download page, that is, I installed Caine, but then it was broken (their term) and so I wanted to remove it and was denied.
[19:43] <rainstake> Okay.  So install nautilus?  I have Ubuntu 10.04.
[19:43] <duanedesign> you can open a Terminal and type: gksudo nautilus
[19:43] <rainstake> Okay.  Trying that now.
[19:43] <duanedesign> rainstake: nautilus is the window manager in Ubuntu
[19:43]  * Cheri703 gave up and put the floppy into a different computer...
[19:44] <duanedesign> Cheri703: the only other thing i could think of is trying different boot parameters. I think it is f6 when the CD starts. maybe put at the end:   noapic nosplash
[19:44] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[19:44] <Cheri703> I may come back to it at some point
[19:45] <rainstake> Thank you duanedesign.  The root File Browser popped up (i.e. opened).  A 'Desktop' icon exists.
[19:45] <Cheri703> looks like it may be working in the other computer
[19:46] <aveilleux> rainstake: That's /root/Desktop... your Desktop folder is /home/<username>/Desktop
[19:49] <rainstake> Is there a next step to take in rmdir .caine-from-deb?  I even tried to recursively remove it.
[19:49] <aveilleux> rainstake: Did you do an rm -r .caine-from-deb ?
[19:50] <rainstake> I tried, and even tried a rmdir -rf, but no success.
[19:51] <aveilleux> rainstake: sudo rm -rf .caine-from-deb/ ?
[19:51] <rainstake> Okay, I am tyring that now.
[19:53] <rainstake> Success!  Thank you, aveilleux.  So, now I have to read up on the properties of sudo.  That' is so nice to have it removed.  Now I can see what the problem was with installing it in the first place.
[19:53] <rainstake> Merci!!!
[19:53] <rainstake> Thank you, too, duanedesign.
[19:54] <aveilleux> rainstake: No problem
[19:54] <aveilleux> !sudo | rainstake
[19:54] <rainstake> how to install an update of mozilla, when it downloads as a .tar or whatever?
[19:54] <aveilleux> Oh no, where did ubot go D:
[19:55] <aveilleux> rainstake: Do you need to update Firefox manually? Is the version in the repositories not sufficient?
[19:56] <rainstake> Yes, to both your questions, it seems.  I thought downloading the new mozilla (Firefox, really) would update to the new Firefox version automatically, but it looks like I have to manually open the tar and then implement it in UI.
[19:56] <rainstake> I mean via command line.
[19:56] <rainstake> Same goes for a warzone2100 game I want to install.
[19:57] <duanedesign> rainstake: here is a good link that explains root and sudo  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[19:58] <rainstake> Great, thank you, duandesign.  I have to go, now, because I need to do some errands while the sun is out.  You all are very awesome and I think this is an very great support communty.
[19:58] <duanedesign> awesome come back and see us
[19:58] <rainstake> Definitly.
[19:58] <rainstake> Cheers.
[19:58] <duanedesign> o/
[20:12] <Cheri703> so, new question: I now have ubuntu recognizing that a floppy drive exists, but won't read the disk
[20:13] <Cheri703> so how do I get it to recognize?
[20:13] <Cheri703> the files on the disks are from an old mac
[20:13] <Cheri703> don't know if that has anything to do with it
[20:16] <aveilleux> Cheri703: It might be using the hfs file system, and I don't know if the Linux kernel supports it by default
[20:16] <Cheri703> ok, can support be installed?
[20:17] <Cheri703> because it isn't acknowledging that anything is on the disks (I've tried 2)
[20:21] <pleia2> not sure it supports it by default, but you should be able to modprobe the module if it's not already loaded
[20:21] <pleia2> so first do: lsmod | grep hfs
[20:21] <pleia2> that will list modules and see if hfs is in there (it's not on mine by default)
[20:21] <pleia2> if you get nothing from that command: sudo modprobe hfsplus
[20:22] <pleia2> that will load the hfs module into the kernel and hopefully it'll work from there
[20:23] <Cheri703> ok
[20:23] <Cheri703> worth a shot!
[20:28] <Cheri703> no love :(
[20:31] <geirha> sudo file -s /dev/fd0
[20:31] <geirha> I think that should tell you what filesystem it uses.
[20:32] <Cheri703> /dev/fd0: DOS floppy 1440k, x86 hard disk boot sector
[20:33] <geirha> Does this output anything?   sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[20:34] <geirha> If not, try: ls /mnt
[20:34] <Cheri703> yay!
[20:34] <Cheri703> now to see if I can open the dang files!
[20:35] <pleia2> :)
[20:35] <Cheri703> thank you!
[20:35] <ibuclaw> Cheri703, floopy disk?
[20:35] <Cheri703> yup
[20:36]  * ibuclaw recalls some Gnome tool for that
[20:36] <Cheri703> going to remove a bunch of files for a client who doesn't have a 3.5 floppy drive anymore
[20:36] <geirha> It's been ages since I had a floppy drive, so I don't know any ways to access it other than from the command line :)
[20:37] <ibuclaw> apt-cache search floppy
[20:37] <ibuclaw> fdutils - Linux floppy utilities
[20:38] <ibuclaw> The package includes the following items:
[20:38] <ibuclaw> - fdmount: automatically mounts/unmounts disks when they are inserted/removed;
[20:38] <Cheri703> ahhh, sweet
[20:39] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[20:39] <ibuclaw> I'll have a look at the package like
[20:39] <ibuclaw> s/like/list
[20:39] <Cheri703> hmm, one of them was a doc, but this next one is all weird names and junk, and it's saying "pc formatted disk with no filesystem"
[20:39] <ibuclaw> looks like it might have a service that comes with the package too
[20:39] <Cheri703> no idea what format the files are :/
[20:41] <ibuclaw> http://packages.ubuntu.com/maverick/i386/fdutils/filelist
[20:41] <ibuclaw> nope, no service. :)
[21:21] <mic_working> hello
[21:22] <MrChrisDruif> Hai mic_working
[21:22] <mic_working> hello. Which video capture card do you recommend for Ubuntu/Linux?
[21:23] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: It used to be nVidia, but I've heard stories of people running Ati great these days as well...I'm running Ati with default graphics....works great...only backlight dimming doesn't work
[21:23] <MrChrisDruif> Ow....capture card....
[21:23] <MrChrisDruif> Didn't read you question well :P
[21:23] <mic_working> lol
[21:23] <mic_working> well i have an nvidia
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: Capture card, as in TV recording?
[21:24] <mic_working> yes MrChrisDruif
[21:24] <MrChrisDruif> Analog or digital?
[21:24] <mic_working> both
[21:24] <mic_working> I dont know how it works
[21:25] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: ie from AV to the computer
[21:25] <mic_working> analog right.
[21:25] <mic_working> or hdmi to the computer
[21:26] <MrChrisDruif> AV?
[21:26] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: what are you trying to accomplish? :)
[21:28] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: video capturing.
[21:28] <MrChrisDruif> From what source?
[21:28] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: from VHS/DVD
[21:28] <mic_working> Antena etc
[21:28] <mic_working> to the computer
[21:28] <MrChrisDruif> Aha...
[21:28] <mic_working> ?
[21:28] <MrChrisDruif> VHS is at least analog :)
[21:28] <mic_working> i know that
[21:29] <mic_working> 21:24:31 <MrChrisDruif> Analog or digital?                                                                                                                                                                                  +tronyx
[21:29] <MrChrisDruif> You need to know what output your source has ...
[21:29] <mic_working> 21:24:37 ::: alphur [~joshua@cpe-76-90-165-115.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]                                                                                                               +UndiFineD
[21:29] <mic_working> 21:24:40 <mic_working> both
[21:29] <UndiFineD> mic_working: ?
[21:29] <mic_working> copy paste fail
[21:29] <UndiFineD> :P
[21:29] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: ok if I want from VHS
[21:29] <mic_working> to the computer
[21:30] <mic_working> what do I need
[21:31] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: You need a video capture card which can handle analog input...I'm looking if I can find a list of some sort :)
[21:31] <alphur> what
[21:31] <mic_working> yeah
[21:31] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html <- this might help...
[21:31] <mic_working> I think my nvidia card has a capture thing
[21:31] <mic_working> not sure.
[21:32] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: Mythtv is open source project that is focused at video capturing...the link I send should mention things like which hardware is supported and which software you'd need :)
[21:33] <mic_working> yeah im reading
[21:41] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gts_250_us.html
[21:41] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: You've got that card?
[21:42] <mic_working> yea
[21:42] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif
[21:43] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, it seems it's only a graphics card mic_working :)
[21:43] <mic_working> :)
[21:43] <MrChrisDruif> Like graphics out only....not in :)
[21:43] <mic_working> yeah not in
[21:43] <mic_working> :p
[21:43] <whyme> hi !
[21:43] <mic_working> hello
[21:44] <MrChrisDruif> Only Ati used to have TV cards integrated .... All-in-wonders they were called if I remember correct :)
[21:44] <MrChrisDruif> Hai whyme :) Why is it you?
[21:44] <mic_working> i dont like ati
[21:45] <mic_working> :)
[21:45] <whyme> yes, ati all in wonder, i was the good old time ....
[21:46] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: http://i52.tinypic.com/2dljaqt.png do you know which app is this to test the speakers id like to reinstall it
[21:46] <MrChrisDruif> I've had an Ati 9700 and now a radeon 3540 or something...passed the all-in-wonders
[21:46] <mic_working> because it's not working lol
[21:46] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: I don't know...never used it....but you're on Ubuntu right?
[21:47] <mic_working> yes
[21:47] <mic_working> #ubuntu aint help
[21:47] <mic_working> too many ppl asking questions few answering
[21:47] <MrChrisDruif> You can go to the sound preferences (System > Sound I think) and check which output is selected :)
[21:47] <whyme> could some help me with my little firefox/flash/youtube problem ?
[21:48] <MrChrisDruif> !ask
[21:48] <mic_working> whyme: it's crashing right :)
[21:48] <mic_working> firefox update ruined it
[21:48] <MrChrisDruif> No !ask?.... whyme: just ask :)
[21:49] <aveilleux> MrChrisDruif: No ubot2 in the userlist today :(
[21:49] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm....how's ubot2? Is he sick?
[21:51] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: Did you find it?
[21:56] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: ei yes.. everything is working
[21:56] <mic_working> front and back jacks speakers and mic
[21:57] <mic_working> hdmi audio out
[21:57] <mic_working> etc
[21:57] <mic_working> only the test speakers isnt.
[21:59] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: Who needs "test" speakers? I prefer speakers I can hear :D
[21:59] <mic_working> yeah
[22:00] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: it's just I uninstalled stuff related with audio before
[22:00] <mic_working> and that stopped working.
[22:00] <mic_working> ;(
[22:01] <mic_working> if i could reinstall this thing
[22:01] <mic_working> maybe it would work again
[22:02] <mic_working> dunno.
[22:02] <MrChrisDruif> None of your speakers are producing sound?
[22:02] <mic_working> they are
[22:03] <mic_working> the problem is that application to test the sound
[22:03] <mic_working> I press left and right but it doesnt produce sound lol
[22:03] <mic_working> and logs dont show information about it
[22:06] <MrChrisDruif> Does that application have some output selection setting somewhere?
[22:06] <mic_working> no lol
[22:06] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm...I dunno :)
[22:07] <MrChrisDruif> But testing application is only for testing....real functioning ALWAYS has my vote over testing :P
[22:07] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: it has an option to select the device i want to test
[22:07] <mic_working> analog stereo duplex
[22:08] <MrChrisDruif> That's what I meant....output, device to test....same to me :)
[22:08] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: it's some config file that is messed up
[22:08] <mic_working> because it works in livecd/fresh install
[22:09] <MrChrisDruif> You could try sudo apt-get purge <app-name> -y && sudo apt-get install <app-name>
[22:09] <MrChrisDruif> Purge also removes config files
[22:10] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: i dont even know the name of the package
[22:10] <MrChrisDruif> The -y suggests yes, so you don't have to confirm you want to purge it...
[22:10] <mic_working> gnome-volume-control
[22:10] <mic_working> i guess
[22:10] <MrChrisDruif> Where could I find this sound testing app?
[22:10] <MrChrisDruif> Never heard of it (nor found the need for it :P)
[22:10] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: system preferences sound
[22:11] <mic_working> then hardware tab
[22:11] <mic_working> choose device and click test
[22:12] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: take a look http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/speaker-setup.html
[22:12] <MrChrisDruif> That sound testing thing also doesn't work with me....but I can play music all I want :P
[22:13] <mic_working> yeah
[22:13] <mic_working> strange
[22:13] <mic_working> ll
[22:13] <mic_working> it's a bug or something
[22:14] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah...<_<"
[22:15] <mic_working> fvck it
[22:15] <mic_working> :p
[22:15] <mic_working> god damn
[22:15] <mic_working> another firefox crash related with flash.
[22:16] <MrChrisDruif> Ow....somehow I got it working <_<"
[22:16] <mic_working> how?!
[22:16] <MrChrisDruif> Somehow my hdmi output was selected <_<"
[22:16] <mic_working> hm
[22:16] <mic_working> I also hdmi output but it doesnt show in gnome-volume thing
[22:17] <mic_working> maybe it's using the hdmi
[22:17] <MrChrisDruif> Was playing some movies this afternoon....but was hearing sound on my headphones <_<"
[22:18] <MrChrisDruif> Hmmm....it's not configured right I believe...it doesn't overwrite current settings or something....
[22:19] <mic_working> it doesnt with hdmi
[22:19] <mic_working> work
[22:20] <mic_working> is there a way to "track" what audio device is doing?
[22:21]  * MrChrisDruif thinks there is....but doesn't know what app does that :P
[22:21] <mic_working> lol
[22:30] <duanedesign> padevcontrol
[22:32] <mic_working> duanedesign: i only have pavucontrol
[22:32] <mic_working> and there is padevchooser
[22:33] <duanedesign> sorry it is pavucontrol
[22:33] <mic_working> yes i have it
[22:34] <mic_working> duanedesign: it looks like these buttons http://i52.tinypic.com/2dljaqt.png are disabled
[22:34] <mic_working> :\
[22:35] <mic_working> padevchooser:
[22:35] <mic_working>  Depends: paprefs but it is not going to be installed
[22:37] <duanedesign> mic_working: i wouldnt worry about it, mine do not work either :P
[22:38] <mic_working> bug maybe
[22:38] <mic_working> :)
[22:38] <duanedesign> i think so
[22:38] <mic_working> duanedesign: do you what is this for
[22:38] <mic_working> pulseaudio-module-jack
[22:41] <duanedesign> it allows pulse audio to talk to the JACK daemon
[22:41] <mic_working> duanedesign: do you if it comes already installed in ubuntu?
[22:41] <mic_working> know*
[22:43] <duanedesign> no, unless you are using UBuntu Studio
[22:43] <mic_working> hm ok tks
[22:43] <mic_working> duanedesign: btw do you anything  about video capture in linux?
[22:43] <mic_working> know* (sh!t)
[22:44] <duanedesign> I have used PiTiVi
[22:44] <duanedesign> the default video editor
[22:44] <mic_working> duanedesign: i mean capture from tv/vhs/dvd using a video capture card
[22:44] <MrChrisDruif> He really wants to capture video duanedesign :)
[22:44] <mic_working> :D
[22:44] <MrChrisDruif> I gave him a link to mythtv with supported hardware etc...
[22:44] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: and im also thinking of streaming with VLC
[22:46] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: im from portugal and now they use dvb-t
[22:46] <mic_working> but i still dont have it only antenna and iptv
[22:46] <duanedesign> mic_working: you could probablly find lots of threads on the forums about that
[22:46] <MrChrisDruif> Ow god....dvb-t....I hope it's better than dvb-t in holland <_<"
[22:47] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: I have a iptv service that uses a box
[22:47] <mic_working> it's like a mediacenter but the content inside of it is encrypted
[22:47] <mic_working> :p
[22:49] <mic_working> Finding cards that will work under a Linux operating system isn't as easy as browsing Amazon for a good choice and checking which operating systems are supported by the device - you will need to do more research based on the type of card and the number of tuners in order to find out if there is a Linux driver suitable for the device. This is a regularly-changing world of information, so there are a couple of websites that you should vi
[22:50] <mic_working> linuxtv.org
[22:50] <mic_working> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hardware_Device_Information
[22:51] <mic_working> Video Disk Recorder, also known as Linux VDR, a software to record and store digital video on a Linux computer
[22:52] <mic_working> good?
[22:56] <metta> that isn't really ubuntu related, try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic mic_working
[23:02] <mic_working> it's linux related lol
[23:04] <MrChrisDruif> What?
[23:05] <MrChrisDruif> mic_working: Also PVR is used (Personal Video Recorder)
[23:06] <mic_working> MrChrisDruif: im watching a video about vlc streaming
[23:06] <mic_working> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e58m-UAbZoE
[23:06] <MrChrisDruif> Good going... mic_working
[23:06] <mic_working> lol
[23:38] <mic_working> streaming music
[23:38] <mic_working> lol
[23:38]  * mic_working hides from MAFIAA
[23:39] <mic_working> vlc encrypts the traffic nice