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artfwocan anyone give reasons NOT to use cdbs?06:47
artfwomore specifically, why some Debian sponsors dislike cdbs and recommend pure debhelper instead?06:50
tumbleweedartfwo: I find it hard to understand what CDBS is doing, and why, and debug rules using it07:09
tumbleweedartfwo: I can also never ues it without referring to its documentation. With dh, it's pretty obvious what you have to override to do something07:10
tumbleweedoh, and have you read it? it's far worse than perl. Although I've submitted a few patches to it, and none to debhelper...07:11
artfwotumbleweed: that's what I thought, I've had to read the entire /usr/share/cdbs directory sometimes07:11
artfwotumbleweed: but it does have some good points, doesn't it? :)07:13
tumbleweedartfwo: it has classes for doing some things, that dh can't do easily, so yeah there are times when I'd consider using it. But all my packages are dh.07:14
artfwotumbleweed: couldn't you point out an example dh-package using pysupport, so I could compare both approaches?07:27
tumbleweedartfwo: for pysupport, all that's needed would be "%:\n\tdh"07:28
artfwotumbleweed: you mean "%:\n\tdh $@"?07:31
tumbleweeder that07:31
artfwotumbleweed: many thanks, your advice just made my rules six times smaller :)07:33
tumbleweedI think it makes less difference when you are customising a lot of behavior07:44
* c2tarun don't miss me too much ;) ♥08:51
* c2tarun is back.08:51
c2tarunI submitted 2 bugs yesterday and no mail from debian till now :( what should I do?08:54
DktrKranzless than 24 hours is normally not a significant time09:02
c2tarunDktrKranz: actually I filed a few bugs before this and I use to get a mail in 1 or 2 hours, that's why I asked.09:03
tumbleweedc2tarun: are you using a local MTA (i.e. postfix) on your system? Or going through a smarthost / direct to bugs-master?09:08
c2taruntumbleweed: using postfix09:11
tumbleweedc2tarun: run "mailq". Does it show anything?09:12
c2taruntumbleweed: its empty.09:12
tumbleweedok, so it's not stuck on your system. Although it could have also bounced back to you and be sitting in your local mailbox. (you can read your mail.log, if you want to be sure it was successfully delivered somewhere)09:13
DktrKranzc2tarun: oh, you meant you didn't get an ACK saying your bug has been reported, didn't you?09:15
c2tarunDktrKranz: yup09:15
webdevbyjosshey, guys. I have a problem with installing Qt application, because I can't install required qt-lib. is this a good channel to ask for help?11:47
stefanlsdIs ubuntu-archive ok with motu using syncpackage to process sync's that have ffe to universe, or would they prefer to manage it?14:20
bdrungstefanlsd: they prefer to manage it14:21
stefanlsdbdrung: aah ok. noted. thanks14:21
MTecknology!info nginx-full natty15:32
ubottuPackage nginx-full does not exist in natty15:33
MTecknology!info nginx natty15:33
ubottunginx (source: nginx): small, but very powerful and efficient web server and mail proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.53-2 (natty), package size 327 kB, installed size 900 kB15:33
hyperairooh i never knew about !info15:33
hyperairthat looks pretty nice15:33
MTecknologyheh... I thouch ubuntu at least had .5415:35
hyperairwell if .54 is a bugfix release it's not too late for a sync15:35
MTecknologyI'm doing that now15:36
MTecknologyhyperair: You think I could still get a new app in that conflicts with nothing and has nothing conflict with it once it passes through debian NEW either this week or next?15:38
hyperairMTecknology: you'll have to ask ubuntu-release that.15:39
MTecknologyhyperair: I guess I'll have to find out when it's in unstable. No point in bugging people until it's there. :)15:45
hyperairMTecknology: you could pre-request a FFe15:45
MTecknologyI guess I'll do that then. I didn't know that. :)15:47
MTecknologyI guess I'll get ready to leave for the funeral while this builds.15:47
MTecknologyhyperair: there we go; bug 729691 added :)16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 729691 in nginx (Ubuntu) "Freeze Exception Request: nginx-0.8.54-4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72969116:04
hyperairis it a non-bugfix release?16:04
MTecknologythere's a little bit of non-bugfix; but that's mostly all it is16:06
psusiif I pushed another change to my branch, I don't need to request a merge again if the one I requested yesterday has not been done yet right?16:11
ari-tczewgeser: bug 729524, I unsubscribed ubuntu-sponsors, looks like you forgot about it.16:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 729524 in proftpd-dfsg (Ubuntu) "Sync Proftpd-dfsg 1.3.3d-4 (universe) from Debian Unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72952416:27
geserari-tczew: thanks, I didn't forgot it, I simply can't (not a member of ~ubuntu-sponsors)16:28
ari-tczewgeser: oh, don't you want to be added?16:28
geseras I'm not doing much sponsoring, I don't know if it's worth it16:30
c2tarunI submitted 3 bugs to debian yesterday and didn't got any ACK mail till now. What should I do? Should I upload them to LP?16:46
Ampelbeinc2tarun: does /var/log/mail.log show the mails as delivered?16:47
c2tarunAmpelbein: there is no mail.log file :(16:48
Ampelbeinc2tarun: did you send the bugs with reportbug/submittodebian? how is your mailsystem configured?16:50
c2tarunAmpelbein: I used submittodebian for submitting bug, I posted few more bugs same way and that time I got the ACK mail but it was this time I am not getting anything, I use postfix16:51
Ampelbeinc2tarun: if you use postfix then there must be a mail.log file somewhere.16:52
c2tarunAmpelbein: let me run a search16:52
Ampelbeinc2tarun: you could also try 'grep postfix /var/log/syslog'16:53
c2tarunAmpelbein: I have only these files in /var/log http://paste.ubuntu.com/576041/16:55
Ampelbeinc2tarun: erm... what system are you using? that isn't standard ubuntu?16:56
c2tarunAmpelbein: it is natty chroot :/16:56
Ampelbeinc2tarun: oh, in that case postfix probably connected to the system syslog-daemon.16:57
c2tarunAmpelbein: oh wait sorry... I used my main sys for submittodebian wait16:57
Ampelbeinc2tarun: you can use something like 'grep postfix.*submit\@bugs\.debian /var/log/syslog' on your mainsystem to find only the mails to the debian tracker16:59
c2tarunAmpelbein: here is my mail log for debian http://pastebin.com/4ELdNMDz17:03
c2tarunAmpelbein: I guess it failed :(17:03
Ampelbeinc2tarun: yes, failed: 550 malware detected: MBL_144360.UNOFFICIAL: message rejected (in reply to end of DATA command))17:04
c2tarunAmpelbein: what does it mean?17:04
Ampelbeinc2tarun: the remote mailserver detected malware in the mail you sent. that could be a virus or something thelike... what patches did you try to submit?17:05
c2tarunAmpelbein: here is the debdiff http://pastebin.com/P6rWVcEm17:06
Ampelbeinc2tarun: hmm, that's strange. that shouldn't trigger any malware detection. maybe it was a temporary problem, just try sending again.17:07
c2tarunAmpelbein: sure.17:07
Ampelbeinc2tarun: but I would remove the change to debian/control from the debdiff, it's not needed in debian17:08
c2tarunAmpelbein: hmm.... ok, I'll remove that.17:08
c2tarunAmpelbein: there is a problem, the debdiff generated by submittodebian is not showing changes of changelog.17:11
TeTeThi, I would like to build a newer version of glib2.0 on 10.04 for trying out the new NetworkManager. I got the latest debian directory of the package via svn from svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-gnome/desktop/unstable/glib2.0. How do I get the source now? In a bazaar repo, I could do a 'bzr bd -S', is there any equivalent for svn?19:18
AmpelbeinTeTeT: are you looking for 'svn-buildpackage'?19:40
TeTeTAmpelbein: thanks, that's it most likely :)19:41
AmpelbeinTeTeT: you have to install it extra though.19:42
Ampelbein!info svn-buildpackage19:42
ubottusvn-buildpackage (source: svn-buildpackage): helper programs to maintain Debian packages with Subversion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.1 (maverick), package size 142 kB, installed size 600 kB19:42
TeTeTAmpelbein: do you know if I can override the pristine check? I need to modify control and control.in to change some build dependencies19:49
AmpelbeinTeTeT: --svn-ignore should do that (I can't test right now)19:51
TeTeTAmpelbein: starts to build now, thanks again19:58
highvoltagef/win 2720:09
c2tarun_If I fix any ftbfs bug for natty machine and submit it to debian. How can i connect LP page of that bug to its debian page?20:09
paultagc2tarun_: just paste the debbug URL in the report20:10
paultagc2tarun_: be sure to note it was forwarded20:10
iulianThere's a "Also affects distribution/package" button in Launchpad.20:11
iulianIf this is what you mean.20:11
c2tarun_paultag: I included the debbug number in changelog. will it be enough?20:11
paultagc2tarun_: not for the LP bug report :)20:11
paultagc2tarun_: LP bug should be linked to debian's bts, and when you upload, the changelog should close the debbug and the lp bug20:12
c2tarun_paultag: how can i link it to debian's bts?20:13
paultagc2tarun_: just paste the debbug URL in the report20:14
paultagc2tarun_: be sure to note it was forwarded20:14
c2tarun_paultag: ok thanks :)20:14
paultagc2tarun_: sure :)20:14
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ari-tczewlucas_: do you planning rebuild ubuntu archive to get ftbfs output? a lot of errors are deprecated, now are other failrues20:31
bdrungtumbleweed: pull-debian-source foo unstable fails, but pull-debian-source foo sid works21:10
tumbleweedbdrung: thanks, I'll have a look later21:13
ari-tczewtumbleweed: what's the command will be for snapshot?21:14
tumbleweedari-tczew: nothing special, if the version isn't available from anywhere else, it will come from snapshot21:15
ari-tczewtumbleweed: so how can I specify package and version?21:15
tumbleweedari-tczew: pull-debian-source foo 0.1.2-321:16
ari-tczewtumbleweed: ok thnx21:30
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ari-tczewc2tarun_: ping22:22
bdrungtumbleweed: maybe "Aborting at user request" -> "User abort."23:09
tumbleweedwe still don't handle squeeze-updates, squeeze-p-u, -security, etc23:11
bdrungtumbleweed: your comments to bug #728751?23:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 728751 in ubuntu-dev-tools (Ubuntu) "[sponsor-patch] support cowbuilder and cowbuilder-dist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72875123:12
tumbleweedthe comma is optional. It's probably more correct to omit it, although I also use them like that quite often.23:13
bdrungtumbleweed: and the restructuring of the if clause?23:19
tumbleweedworks for me23:19
bdrungand the error message format change?23:20
tumbleweedit seems a more maintainable solution23:20
bdrungtumbleweed: ok, then feel free to merge that branch. i am going to bed now.23:20

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