| bryceh_ | new wayland snapshot pushed to universe | 00:16 |
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| bryceh_ | (might need a ffe, I don't remember if we need that for stuff in uni) | 00:17 |
| kklimonda | bryceh_: we do | 00:18 |
| bryceh_ | [ubuntu/natty] wayland 0.1~git20110214.e4762a6a-0ubuntu1 (Accepted) | 00:25 |
| bryceh_ | looks like it got in anyway | 00:25 |
| kklimonda | FFe is not enforced | 00:26 |
| kklimonda | you are just supposed to ask for it before uploading :) | 00:26 |
| bryceh_ | alright, well I don't think it matters at all in this case | 00:27 |
| kklimonda | neither do I, it makes sense to update wayland for as long as possible | 00:28 |
| bryceh_ | actually what I uploaded is the last snapshot we can do anyway | 00:29 |
| bryceh_ | next revision in git requires updating mesa to a git snapshot | 00:29 |
| bryceh_ | newer wayland will have to hang out in edgers | 00:30 |
| kklimonda | does wayland really have a chance to replace X in the foreseable future? Is Nvidia going to support it at some point? I know they did say that they have no plans, but is it even something they can do without using KMS, GEM and other three-letter-long technologies? | 00:31 |
| bryceh_ | yep, all good questions | 00:35 |
| bryceh_ | well, even if we ignore NVIDIA or imagine -nouveau becoming a totally good replacement, there still is lots of work needed in compiz and gtk to be able to run on wayland | 00:38 |
| bryceh_ | so I don't think we're anywhere near close to switching | 00:39 |
| bryceh_ | I'm not even sure we're very close to wayland being a useful alternative | 00:39 |
| kklimonda | well, by foreseable future I meant 3 to 5 years | 00:39 |
| kklimonda | or do you also mean that? :) | 00:39 |
| bryceh_ | ah, I assumed you meant 1-2 ubuntu releases | 00:39 |
| kklimonda | well, 1-2 LTS releases :) | 00:40 |
| bryceh_ | yeah given 3-5 years I could see it happening | 00:40 |
| bryceh_ | but like I said it requires a whole heap of userspace work | 00:40 |
| bryceh_ | and actually I suspect we'll see something like wayland used for the login screen, and then that launches into X for regular user stuff | 00:41 |
| bryceh_ | *that* we might see within a year or so | 00:41 |
| kklimonda | is wayland even something that all involved parties has agreed upon? | 00:41 |
| bryceh_ | define all involved parties ;-) | 00:41 |
| bryceh_ | for us, it's what Mark wants, so... | 00:41 |
| kklimonda | well, if we talk userspace then I meant Gtk+ and Qt developers mostly | 00:42 |
| bryceh_ | I've no idea | 00:42 |
| bryceh_ | it's another good question | 00:42 |
| kklimonda | I know some work is being done, but so far it's mostly side projects. | 00:43 |
| * bryceh_ nods | 00:47 | |
| === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth | ||
| bjsnider | Sarvatt, ath9k appears to be pretty good in the latest .38 kernel rc. they might have finally got it right. | 19:18 |
| bjsnider | ath5k is good too | 19:18 |
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