=== claydoh is now known as LuckyStrike
=== LuckyStrike is now known as claydoh
zkriesseAllo gent's/girls03:13
zkriesseOi, it's Jjesse!03:14
zkriesseHow ya been man03:14
jjesse-vmgood how are you?03:16
zkriesseOh decent03:16
jjesse-vmgood to hear that03:16
zkriesseTrying to get over this damn cold I have03:16
jjesse-vmgetting ready for bed03:17
zkriesseK later then03:17
zkriesseEnjoy sleep03:17
Daskreechjjesse-vm: Hi 03:32
DaskreechMissed hin :)03:32
c2tarungood morning :)05:51
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=== fabo__ is now known as fabo
c2taruncan anyone please tell me what is project-neon exactly?08:33
valoriec2tarun: it is a way to easily install trunk08:44
valorieand be able to switch back and forth08:44
valorieyou might read shadeslayer's slides he posted earlier08:45
c2tarunvalorie: where can I get them08:45
valorieor http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Project%20Neon/Kubuntu_Project_Neon.html08:47
c2tarunvalorie: thanks :)08:48
c2tarunvalorie: my net is working very slow :( is that any way I download shadeslayer's slides and view them ofline?08:50
valoriesure, wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Project%20Neon08:51
valorie<3 wget08:51
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shadeslayerapachelogger: i cannot reproduce your bug about cookies11:00
shadeslayeri shut down the laptop last night and when i open gmail/facebook today, it directly gets me to my mail/feed11:01
ulyssesI added the Neon PPA to Natty, but I can't install meta-project-neon, the package cannot be found11:36
yofelulysses: it's project-neon-base or -all, meta is the source package name11:43
ulyssesyofel: thanks, I see meta-project-neon on the Launchpad page11:44
yofelwhich one?11:45
yofelah, the ppa page? that shows source package names, you need to expand the package details to list binary package names11:45
apacheloggershadeslayer: and yet it is there :P12:46
apacheloggerif you tell me how to debug it I shall gladly do that12:46
apacheloggershadeslayer: ping ping ping ping ping13:04
apacheloggerdebian/not-installed:usr/lib/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite3.so # TODO get kubuntu mobile using sqlite13:09
apacheloggerlove it13:09
bambeeapachelogger: what about your tablet ? :)13:36
bambee(I acquired a tablet recently right ?)13:36
kubotu_bambee meant: "(I acquyoured a tablet recently right ?)"13:37
* apachelogger just broke wifi13:37
* bambee executes kubotu_->setProperty("quiet", QVariant(true));13:40
yofeljust be happy that kubotu_ stopped talking nonsense13:44
apacheloggerwe can change that13:52
apacheloggerbambee: not really kubotu_'s fault that you don't use the right commands :P13:52
apacheloggerkubotu_: restart13:52
bambeeapachelogger: arrfff :P13:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes14:17
apacheloggershadeslayer: I forgot 14:30
apacheloggershadeslayer: didnt you see the rendering issues with gmail are fixed or something?14:31
apacheloggerin rekonq14:31
apacheloggeralso gmail is so incredibly slow I can start scrolling before going to bed and maybe it is finished by the time I get up14:31
apacheloggerit always pops up a download dialog for safari.jsp14:32
apacheloggerno clue why14:32
apacheloggerI go somewhere14:32
apacheloggersave as pops up14:32
shadeslayeryes that's a bug and it's been reported and targetted for 0.714:38
shadeslayeri think it's a adblock issue and such14:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: did you figure out how to set focus stealing for tabs yet? :P14:38
shadeslayerand rekonq has demand attention set instead of raisewindow .... 14:39
shadeslayer( for clicking url's in quassel and such )14:39
shadeslayerand yeah i experience some weird hang's as well .... don't know if those are reported yet or not14:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: you have a ATi card... i blame everything on AMD14:41
shadeslayer( the issue with tab's is also known and is being worked upon as we speak )14:41
* shadeslayer upgrades to 4.6.114:42
shadeslayerapachelogger: that bug is most reproducible on kde-look.org14:43
shadeslayeror kde-apps.org14:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/661314:46
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apacheloggershadeslayer: I have an intel chip...15:37
apacheloggershadeslayer: about attention vs. raise window15:38
apacheloggerI think attention is indeed more appropriate15:38
apacheloggerfails utterly on netbook15:38
apacheloggeras apps-demands-attention is not supported in the task management paradigm at all15:38
shadeslayerwell ... one could check the size of the screen and choose accordingly15:39
apacheloggerScottK: what do you think about putting kpk in the SAL favorites?15:39
shadeslayerlike we do in plasma-netbook15:39
apacheloggerScottK: I do not see how anyone would find it unless thye know where it is15:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: that is bogus, if at all you should query dbus and check whether plasma-netbook or something else is used15:40
apacheloggerof course that is a bloody workaround15:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: you should talk to mgraesslin really15:40
apacheloggershadeslayer: I could also imagine somehow making attention demanding possibly in plasma-netbook15:41
apacheloggerhave the task dropdown thing flash wildly or somesuch15:41
apacheloggerdisplay a troll head15:41
apacheloggerkpk has bad UX15:42
apacheloggerfor some reason I expected the search to be on-the-fly rather than once-you-hit-enter15:42
apacheloggermight be because it looks more like a filter15:42
* apachelogger installs lightweight working browser15:43
shadeslayerwtf is happening15:43
shadeslayerkde-apps.org is broken15:43
apacheloggerthey are surely switching to owncloud right now15:43
apacheloggerdid you not get the memo? :P15:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: i got the android ... not the maemo15:44
apacheloggertalking about android15:44
shadeslayerand yet you have a android tablet15:44
apacheloggeris there any better virtual keyboards?15:44
apacheloggeris there any better home screen stuff?15:44
apacheloggeris there any better wallpaper mumbo jumbo15:44
shadeslayerTry out the HTC IME Mod15:44
apacheloggeralso FTR, I have an android tablet so that I can remove android and put kyoubuntoo on it15:45
shadeslayer^^ something i want  to do with my phone15:45
apacheloggershadeslayer: konqueror works 9000% better than rekonq15:45
apacheloggerplease explain15:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: konqueror is outdated and uses KHTML which is older than IE615:45
apacheloggeryour browser uses webkit which is based on khtml, making it older than IE 615:46
apacheloggeralso, dont stop IE6, it was the longest serving and most adopted web browser evar15:46
shadeslayer"based on KHTML" vs "Uses KHTML"15:46
shadeslayeralso .. does someone even maintain KHTML now? 0.o15:47
shadeslayerpoor guy/s15:47
apacheloggerstop bashing khtml alraedy15:47
shadeslayerso like fregl is coming ... 15:47
apacheloggerIMHO it has a way more hackable tree than webkit anyway15:47
shadeslayerfregl: will you bring CD's of Fluffy?15:47
freglbring where?15:47
shadeslayerfregl: you're coming to Bangalore right?15:48
freglI am in Bangalore :D15:48
shadeslayerfregl: i arrive on tuesday15:48
shadeslayerfregl: what's the weather like :P15:48
freglcold, or so they say15:49
shadeslayercold? 0.o15:49
freglonly like 17 deg cel15:49
shadeslayerit's flipping 32oC15:49
shadeslayer^^ in the day :P15:49
* apachelogger is freezing just thinking about 1715:49
apacheloggerkubotu: weather somewhere, austria15:49
apacheloggerkubotu: hello?!?!?15:49
kuboture apachelogger15:49
apacheloggerkubotu: help weather15:49
kubotuno help for topic weather15:49
apacheloggeryou can go scru yerself!15:50
apacheloggerkubotu: config list15:50
kubotumodules: server, lastfm, http, wikipedia, send, autoop, nickserv, markov, irclog, irc, remote, debug, seen, rss, factoids, poll, core, twitter, rejoin, keyword, log, greet, plugins, translator, google, auth, encoding, salut, host, ri, chanserv, wheelfortune15:50
apacheloggerkubotu: config list core15:50
kubotucore.save_every, core.nick_postfix, core.db, core.address_prefix, core.run_as_daemon, core.private_replies, core.language, core.reply_with_nick15:50
apacheloggerkubotu: config list plugins15:50
kubotuplugins.whitelist, plugins.path, plugins.blacklist15:50
apacheloggerkubotu: config get plugins.blacklist15:50
kubotuplugins.blacklist: azgame, chucknorris, deepthoughts, delicious, dice, digg, forecast, fortune, freshmeat, geoip, imdb, math, roulette, slashdot, spell, theyfightcrime, threat, wheeloffortune, youtube, dictclient, dict, realm, grouphug, bash, cal, weather, rot, hl2, wow, tube, url, remotectl, linkbot, babel, figlet, debug, quiz15:50
apacheloggerwhatever happend to the weather plugin15:50
apacheloggerforecast maybe15:51
apacheloggerkubotu: config rm forecast from plugins.blacklist15:51
kubotuplugins.blacklist: azgame, chucknorris, deepthoughts, delicious, dice, digg, fortune, freshmeat, geoip, imdb, math, roulette, slashdot, spell, theyfightcrime, threat, wheeloffortune, youtube, dictclient, dict, realm, grouphug, bash, cal, weather, rot, hl2, wow, tube, url, remotectl, linkbot, babel, figlet, debug, quiz15:51
kubotuthis config change will take effect on the next rescan15:51
apacheloggerkubotu: rescan15:51
kubotusaving ...15:51
kuboturescanning ...15:51
kubotudone. 10 core modules loaded; 55 plugins loaded; 31 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load15:51
apacheloggershadeslayer: so, I consulted the market for htc ime and it yields nothing15:51
apacheloggerwhat to do?15:51
shadeslayeroh it ain't on the market15:51
apacheloggerkubotu: help forecast15:51
kubotuforecast <location> => show the 2-day forecast for a location. Location can be any combination of City, State, Country and ZIP15:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: what is the point of this shitty market then? :O15:52
apacheloggerkubotu: forecast somewhere, austria15:52
kubotuPoint is not on NDFD grid15:52
kubotuCouldn't find forecast for somewhere,austria15:52
* apachelogger blinks15:52
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=62441615:52
apacheloggerkubotu: forecast vienna, austria15:52
kubotuPoint is not on NDFD grid15:52
kubotuCouldn't find forecast for vienna,austria15:52
apacheloggerkubotu: config add forecast to plugins.blacklist15:52
kubotuplugins.blacklist: azgame, chucknorris, deepthoughts, delicious, dice, digg, fortune, freshmeat, geoip, imdb, math, roulette, slashdot, spell, theyfightcrime, threat, wheeloffortune, youtube, dictclient, dict, realm, grouphug, bash, cal, weather, rot, hl2, wow, tube, url, remotectl, linkbot, babel, figlet, debug, quiz, forecast15:52
kubotuthis config change will take effect on the next rescan15:52
shadeslayerapachelogger: there's also something called swift type or something15:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: swiftkey15:53
apacheloggerso why does google deploy it with a shitty default kbd if there is better craps available?15:54
apacheloggershadeslayer: they have a full version of swiftkey15:54
apacheloggertrials ftw15:55
shadeslayersame reason as why they deploy shitty camera software15:55
apacheloggershadeslayer: and what is the reason?15:56
shadeslayerapachelogger: they fail  at making UX15:56
apacheloggeralso where is our dictator?15:57
* apachelogger justed wanted to propose ditching kubuntu and instead make kubuntu mobile as to get rid of shitty android kbds15:57
* apachelogger embraces the you-cannot-play-music-while-mounted-on-pc paradigm15:58
apacheloggershadeslayer: did you get Qt on yer phone yet?15:59
shadeslayerministro crashes15:59
apacheloggeryou are very slow15:59
shadeslayerapachelogger: the app is foobared15:59
apacheloggerI already have a qml port of qtmobilevlc ready :D :D15:59
apacheloggerdoesn't do video though15:59
apacheloggerwhich makes the whole thing a bit pointless16:00
apacheloggerbut for that I need to mess with opengl stuffz16:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: got the source code somewhere?16:00
* apachelogger is a bit scared of that16:00
apacheloggershadeslayer: no16:00
apacheloggerit is floating about on my hdd in graz16:00
apacheloggerwhich is like 200km away16:00
shadeslayerapachelogger: i'm all sorts of out of bandwidth16:01
* apachelogger installs the htc stuff16:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: you need to r00t16:01
apacheloggershadeslayer: that does not compute16:01
shadeslayerto install16:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: it's a zip file..16:01
apacheloggerI do not follow16:01
shadeslayerapachelogger: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/rekonq/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/webpage.cpp#L43216:02
shadeslayerthat's the problem16:02
shadeslayerin rekonq16:02
apacheloggerclearly your algorihtm is flawed :P16:03
apacheloggerthe htc ime thing simply crashes16:04
shadeslayerapachelogger: clearly you did not fix the permissions16:06
apacheloggerthere is no talk going on about permissions16:06
ScottKapachelogger: I think kpk in SAL favorites is fine.16:06
shadeslayerSAL? is that like HAL? 16:07
ScottKIt's not HAL's sister.16:07
apacheloggershadeslayer: search and launch16:07
apacheloggeror lunch16:07
apacheloggerdepends on your POV I guess16:08
ScottKapachelogger: You aren't supposed to give the minion the complete answer.  Then there's no struggle for enlighenment.16:08
apacheloggerScottK: that minion is struggling for years, I doubt he will ever make it :S16:09
ScottKYes, but it's a journey, not a destination.16:09
* apachelogger notes that the empire of phonon has uniquly awesome ideas for tablety video players16:09
apacheloggerScottK: did you ever go somewhere just to be walking though?16:10
apacheloggerkubotu: config rm youtube from plugins.blacklist16:10
kubotuplugins.blacklist: azgame, chucknorris, deepthoughts, delicious, dice, digg, fortune, freshmeat, geoip, imdb, math, roulette, slashdot, spell, theyfightcrime, threat, wheeloffortune, dictclient, dict, realm, grouphug, bash, cal, weather, rot, hl2, wow, tube, url, remotectl, linkbot, babel, figlet, debug, quiz, forecast16:10
kubotuthis config change will take effect on the next rescan16:10
apacheloggerkubotu: rescan16:10
kubotusaving ...16:10
kuboturescanning ...16:11
kubotudone. 10 core modules loaded; 55 plugins loaded; 31 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load16:11
apacheloggerkubotu: youtube mgmt kids16:11
kubotuVideos for mgmt kids: 1. MGMT "Kids" Video (4'35") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIEOZCcaXzE&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 2. MGMT- Kids (5'27") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7JthgTMHDU&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 3. MGMT - Kids (6'7") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI&feature=youtube_gdata_player16:11
kubotu[1] MGMT "Kids" Video (4'35"): HD Version: www.itsjonsalmon.com Article about the video www.canyon-news.com About Abby and Rafael: www.myspace.com/abrafever Just to set the story straight: the facepainted kids in the video are a boy and girl from Los Angeles, two friends of mine, names Raf and Abby. MGMT was not involved in the making of this video, however, they became involved down the line. The story goes like t...16:11
kubotu[2] MGMT- Kids (5'27"): "Kids" by MGMT from the "Time To Pretend" EP from Cantora Records. Available on iTunes and at www.cantorarecords.com16:11
kubotu[3] MGMT - Kids (6'7"): Music video by MGMT performing Kids. (c) 2009 Sony Music Entertainment16:11
apacheloggerwho needs that many hits16:11
apacheloggergood lawd16:11
apacheloggerkubotu: config list youtube16:11
kubotuyoutube.hits, youtube.descs, youtube.formats16:11
apacheloggerkubotu: config get youtube.hits16:11
kubotuyoutube.hits: 316:11
apacheloggerkubotu: config set youtube.hits 116:11
apacheloggerkubotu: config get youtube.descs16:11
kubotuyoutube.descs: 316:11
apacheloggerkubotu: config set youtube.hits 316:12
kubotulemme take care of that for you16:12
apacheloggerkubotu: config set youtube.descs 016:12
kubotucan do!16:12
apacheloggerkubotu: youtube the flying bus16:12
kubotuVideos for the flying bus: 1. Flying School Bus that Transforms MUST SEE! (1'6") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUDuPWRiRug&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 2. The Making of the Flying Bus (2'10") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTDJrMu24b8&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 3. Just Cause 2: The Flying Bus (3'59") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivYQih2TlFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player16:12
apacheloggermore like it16:12
apparleguys vlc uses qt right? so is it linked to the qt libraries in the system or it does something else?16:13
apacheloggerapparle: what else would it do?16:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: so, is there any good live wallpaper thing?16:13
* apachelogger actually came to wonder why plasma does not have that sorta thing16:14
apparleapachelogger: then why are the tooltips yellow coloured in vlc and blue everywhere else in the natty alpha 316:14
apacheloggerapparle: one can customize that16:14
apacheloggeras app dev you can actually change just about anything16:14
apacheloggermind that our installer is done in Qt, yet it does not look like a Qt app for the better part16:15
apachelogger(by Qt app I mean a QWidgets based one, obviously a QML based one would look like however the dev wants it to look anyway ^^)16:15
apparleapachelogger: is there anyway to make it back to blue, it does look odd16:15
apparleapachelogger: except recompile my own package with a patch16:15
apacheloggerapparle: depends on why it is yellow to begin with ^^16:16
apparleapachelogger: I suppose because it matches with ubuntu themes16:16
apacheloggeractually you can pass a color param16:16
apachelogger--stylesheet <style.qss>16:17
apacheloggeror somesuch16:17
apparleI'll look it up16:17
apacheloggerapparle: where is such a tooltip?16:17
apparleapachelogger: when you hover your mouse over the play button or stop button etc16:18
* apachelogger looks16:18
apacheloggerthat looks actually like they paint the tooltip themself16:19
apparleapachelogger: it is alright in maverick, so I thought why it has changed a colour16:19
apparleapachelogger: why would they do that, when it used to appear correctly everywhere16:20
apacheloggerthere certainly is no patch that does it16:20
apacheloggerapparle: #videolan16:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes 16:20
shadeslayerthere's a wallpaper with a cute racoon16:21
shadeslayerapachelogger: install fancy widget tho16:22
shadeslayerquite nice16:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: any idea how to fix that logic?16:24
apacheloggershadeslayer: sure, make it less global :P16:25
apacheloggerif your app runs logic on something it should not run it on then clearly you did not define the conditions tight enough ;)16:25
apacheloggeroggy oggy oggy16:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: did any of the keyboards work?16:28
apacheloggershadeslayer: fancy widget seems a bit pointless TBH?16:28
apacheloggerI am back to android default16:28
shadeslayerapachelogger: well ... i like to have some sort of weather info on my screen16:28
shadeslayerthat's why i have it16:28
apacheloggeryeah but the clock seems utter pointless16:29
apacheloggeras every clock app seems utter pointless16:29
apacheloggerto that extend I would rather have a weather only applet ;)16:29
shadeslayerseeing how android displays the time on the right16:29
apacheloggerthough I personally do not have much use for a weather applet either16:29
apacheloggerweather in ausria is always shitty, no need of reminding me ^^16:29
* ScottK wonders why one needs a weather app in India. Isn't it either hot and wet or hot and dry depending on the season (so a calendar is sufficient)?16:31
shadeslayerScottK: more or less .. but sometimes there are random spells of rain16:35
shadeslayerif you get caught up in one of those16:35
shadeslayeryou certainly won't be able to reach home16:35
apacheloggerdo it the english way, take an umbrella with you :P16:36
apacheloggerand a hat of course16:36
* apachelogger packs his bag16:37
apachelogger3 bottles of whisky, 2 bottles of wine and a tooth brush16:38
c2tarunapachelogger: you forgot soda ;)16:39
apacheloggerwhat for?16:42
ScottKHe's probably thinking you want to contaminate your Whisky with impurities of some kind.16:42
apacheloggerwhut? :O16:43
* apachelogger faints16:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: i could check if the mimetype is null and just return16:44
bambeeguys, I think a kubuntu-netbook image for ac100 would be great and very interesting for the community => existing solutions are preinstalled non-official maverick images. (ubuntu 11.04 will propose ARM support... It's a good idea, imho). I could help on testing, debugging and so on. (while still helping for x86 tasks)16:44
apacheloggergo ahead and do it :P16:45
apacheloggeror get devices for other people so you are not alone ^^16:45
apacheloggerScottK is very into netbooks I hear :P16:45
ScottKbambee: What would it need that a standard arm netbook image wouldn't provide.16:45
apacheloggerScottK: we even have a standard arm netbook image?16:46
ScottKapachelogger: We will once we get arm actually working.16:46
* apachelogger notes that device integration work is always good to have on arm16:46
* apachelogger waves fist at proprietary foobar16:46
ScottKAccording to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest we'll have it for omap3/4.16:48
ScottKbambee: What sort of arm is ac100?16:49
bambeeScottK: it's a cortexA9 so I think arm netbook images should work. But it requires tegra2 kernel supports16:49
ScottKIf there will be a kernel for it in the archive and you're willing to test the images it should be ~doable.16:50
bambeeit requires also a presinstalled image for booting.16:50
ScottKYes.  That's what we're going to have for arm.16:50
bambeethe non trivial task : the user must flash the default bootloader in order to boot on SSD,SD or USB... (so boot the preinstalled image)16:54
bambeeugly but required o_O16:54
shadeslayerapachelogger: what did you follow to get Qt onto your tablet?17:16
bambeeapachelogger: I do not propose this idea to get people to do it for me but to do it myself or help to do it. Nevertheless If I had some money, hardware donations would have been made since a while.17:18
bambeeshadeslayer: the white rabbit (remember matrix) :P17:20
shadeslayerhaha :P17:20
shadeslayerthe lighthouse project is like 800megs17:22
yofelwhat's that?17:22
shadeslayerReceiving objects:  14% (76268/523612), 143.32 MiB | 2.23 MiB/s   17:22
shadeslayeryofel: Qt on Android17:22
yofelah, yowch17:23
shadeslayerand that's on your thinkpad btw17:23
shadeslayeri went O_O17:23
bambeeshadeslayer: alpha for now ?17:23
shadeslayerbambee: Qt on android? yes17:23
shadeslayerfregl: where are you staying btw?17:23
shadeslayeryofel: we need help with our environment.rc17:24
shadeslayeror do you think you can finish it tomorrow17:24
DarkwingDuckQuick Qt question... does Qt on iOS exist?17:24
shadeslayerdon't think so17:24
shadeslayernot yet anyways17:25
yofelno, as I don't know what the problem is, or what's missing17:25
yofelaccording to the kde sysadmin guide all env settings are set, so I don't even know where to start looking17:25
shadeslayeryofel: i guess we need to ask in #kde-devel, since they probably have all the vars set17:25
* yofel goes reading .bashrc again17:25
yofelmaybe I missed something there17:26
shadeslayeryeah i'm going through techbase17:26
yofelshadeslayer: here's a good start http://techbase.kde.org/SysAdmin17:26
shadeslayerokay :D17:27
shadeslayeri was looking at http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Environment#.bashrc17:28
apacheloggershadeslayer: the apachelogger-downloads-foo-installs-exploers-executes paradigm17:33
shadeslayernow where do i find that :P17:33
apacheloggeractually straight forward, esp since the apk from qtcreator will automagically fetch the communists Qt17:33
apacheloggerbambee: the ponit of hardware donations is that one tries to find a sponsor ;)17:34
shadeslayerapachelogger: seeing how i can't download 800 megs on my machine with such a crappy connection, i'd have to postpone this17:34
apacheloggerQt is not 800 mib17:35
apacheloggerespecially not considering that it is limited to but a fraction of the regular UI stuff17:36
kubotuapachelogger meant: "especially  considering that it is limited to but a fraction of the regular UI stuff"17:36
apacheloggershadeslayer: did you try the statusnet cliet for android?17:37
shadeslayerapachelogger: the twitter client is pretty kewl17:37
apacheloggertwatter is for non-floss people17:37
apacheloggerit is not in me market17:39
apacheloggerthis world hates me17:39
shadeslayerwhat's not in the market 17:39
wilkie_catFound I could still use Netbook Remix in the new version of KDE.17:41
apacheloggernetbook remix?17:41
wilkie_catIn Kubuntu, you have to go to System settings, workspace behavior and select Netbook.17:42
apacheloggerwell, yes17:42
apacheloggerthat does not give you the netbook edition per se though17:42
apacheloggerit just gives you the netbook shell17:43
apacheloggerwilkie_cat: are you on a netbook actually?17:43
apacheloggerbecause it should autodetect netbooky devices and use the netbook setup there17:43
wilkie_catLast night Kubuntu got very slow and buggy. But to-day it seems brilliant..17:43
wilkie_catNo I am not on a Netbook. I am on a Laptop.17:43
apacheloggerthat explains that then ^^17:43
wilkie_catI had a lot of prog17:43
wilkie_catI had a lot of problems just after I installed the new version of KDE.17:44
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://identi.ca/notice/6627245617:44
apacheloggersurprisingly enough it works on a tablet form factor17:45
apacheloggershadeslayer: replied :P17:46
apacheloggerplease get the official apachelogger<->english dict17:46
apacheloggeralso available is apachelogger<->java17:46
apacheloggerboth 50 USD17:46
apacheloggerwhich is like 0.0007 euros17:46
apacheloggeror 50000000 inr17:46
apacheloggerabout 0.000000009 gbp for that matter17:47
shadeslayeroh i got a haircut btw17:47
apacheloggershadeslayer: do you look like steve ballmer now?17:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: i look like Steve Jobs now17:47
apacheloggerpictures or it didn't happen17:48
* apachelogger needs to leave for train in a bit17:48
* apachelogger adds another bottle of wine to his belongings17:48
apacheloggershadeslayer: what is the status of phonon in qtwebkit btw?17:49
shadeslayeri have no idea17:49
shadeslayerseeing how i haven't worked on17:50
shadeslayer*on it17:50
apacheloggerwhy not17:50
apacheloggerdo you not want integrated html5?17:50
shadeslayerapachelogger: me and yofel are trying to fix Neon17:50
apacheloggerthat does not help integrated html5 experience in kde though17:51
shadeslayerapachelogger: mail.check()17:51
apacheloggerI just closed konqueror17:52
shadeslayerapachelogger: use the flipping tablet17:52
apacheloggerthat is already in standby17:52
shadeslayerdon't you have the gmail app installed or something17:52
apacheloggerwhat do I see in the mail now?17:52
* apachelogger as a matter of fact raped the gmail app away17:52
apacheloggerI decide when I check for mail, not some stupid background service17:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: nothing in my inbox17:53
* apachelogger puts on pants and a coat and a hat17:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: do you see the resemblance now :P18:03
shadeslayermaemologger: so like .. Neon is finally working, want to test?18:49
maemologgerDoes it work on maemo?18:50
maemologgerObviously not then :P 18:50
shadeslayermaemologger: did you see my PM?18:50
maemologgerLeave me an instructuion page and i shall try back home18:51
maemologgerNo pm18:51
shadeslayermaemologger: just add the ppa and install project-neon-all18:51
maemologgerQml ftw18:52
bambeeOh jesus : https://code.launchpad.net/~marvin24/ac100/linux-chromeos-2.6.36 => and apparently there is a proposal which should be merge for 2.6.40 :D18:53
maemologgerIs that a spaceship?18:54
bambeemaemologger: :P18:56
maemologgerNot interesting then18:57
maemologger/me hacks a bit on phonon18:57
shadeslayerNightrose: welcome to india! :D19:19
ulyssesapachelogger: http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/f6c8c021-670e-4db8-b302-ec3d0546ea76.jpg19:28
yofelcan anyone reproduce bug 730008 ? I can't in natty19:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 730008 in Kubuntu PPA "After update to KDE 4.6.1 from 4.6.0 any KDE application executed with sudo or kdesudo looks ugly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/73000819:30
shadeslayerif it's a gnome app he's launching its bound to be ugly19:32
yofel"any KDE application executed with sudo or kdesudo looks ugly"19:32
yofelI get a different color scheme here with kdesudo, but otherwise looks fine19:33
shadeslayeryep, likewise here19:33
jjesse-vmjust trying out rekonq in natty, is there a reason that downlods don't go automatically to the downloads folder?20:09
shadeslayerhmm ..20:12
shadeslayerjjesse-vm: can you try out rekonq from my PPA and reproduce the bug?20:12
shadeslayerjjesse-vm: https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra20:13
shadeslayerthey always go to ~/Documents right?20:14
jjesse-vmyes they do20:15
jjesse-vmwell by default i'm sure i could change that20:15
shadeslayeri'm looking at it right now20:15
jjesse-vmshadeslayer:  sure can test20:16
jjesse-vmhrm launchpad gave me a server down error20:16
yofeltry a few times, launchpad is drunk today20:17
shadeslayeryeah :P20:18
jjesse-vmthat's probablly not good ;)20:19
shadeslayerLaunchpad and apachelogger got together and had a party20:19
shadeslayerdestUrl = KFileDialog::getSaveFileName(KUrl::fromPath(fileName), QString(), parent);20:20
jjesse-vmok running hte update20:22
jjesse-vmshadeslayer:  ok the version from your ppa prompts me where to save but still defaults to ~/Documents20:25
shadeslayeryeah ...20:25
shadeslayerok .. konqueror does the same20:26
shadeslayerit could easily be a KIO Bug20:26
shadeslayeror it could be something that KIO takes as a default... 20:26
jjesse-vmlet me know if there is further testing i can do to help out20:34
shadeslayerok now it asks to save in ~20:35
ScottKThat or just broken in a more subtle way.20:37
shadeslayerit's a dirty hack tho : destUrl = KFileDialog::getSaveFileName(QString("~/Downloads/").append(fileName.toAscii()), QString(), parent);20:37
shadeslayerwell .. there's something called a download path in system settings20:44
shadeslayeri'm trying to figure out how to get that value20:44
shadeslayerjjesse-vm: fixed in git :)21:05
shadeslayerjjesse-vm: now what every download path you set in system settings, rekonq will pick that21:06
jjesseshadeslayer ok, vm locked up but let me know if there is anything you need me to do21:08
shadeslayerwell.. since 0.7 will be released for natty, this fix will be included :)21:08
shadeslayerjjesse-vm: http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=rekonq.git&a=blobdiff&h=3e2798d31c29377f23b5abd8b9cebc5766d877e9&hp=cc89a57d407c252887c0f42bfe8c74f857b29ccd&hb=4fc573ab8a27b730ff5c3b36999317b686a6f11a&f=src/webpage.cpp21:08
shadeslayernow i'm hungry :P21:09
jjesseis Riddell the only paid Canonical employee for Kubuntu or are there others?21:24
shadeslayerjjesse: agateau as well21:25
jjesseoh yeah21:26
Riddellyofel: we have a patch in kdenetwork for the v4l issue21:44
yofelRiddell: ah thanks, I'll look at it21:46
DarkwingDuckRiddell: remember at UDS we were talking about having and using docs.kubuntu.org? I was thinking keeper about it and seeing that I have a wiki guy wanting to help with Kubuntu wiki I was thinking of putting together a help.kubuntu.org to sorta mimic help.ubuntu.com What do you think of that idea?21:49
DarkwingDuckRiddell: seeing that the docs are included with every install.21:49
Riddella help.kubuntu.org with the docbook docs or with wiki docs?21:50
DarkwingDuckRiddell: it will be a mix. a bit more involved then the help docs and yet a bit more controlled for content then the wiki21:51
=== ubott2 is now known as ubottu
DarkwingDuckRiddell: More tips and tricks with the help.kubuntu.org21:52
shadeslayergotta <3 git bisect21:52
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: can we haz more Kubuntu Specific screenshots ? :)21:52
RiddellDarkwingDuck: well you have to know which it is so you know what to ask sysadmin for21:52
DarkwingDuckand it will be simplier to navigate and browse then the wiki it21:52
=== kozz_ is now known as kozz
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: Yes, the screenshots will be able to get hosted there21:53
DarkwingDuckRiddell: look at help.ubuntu.com really quick and you can see how it is setup21:53
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: We can also include videoshots on there as well.21:53
DarkwingDuckI hate working from a teathered machine.21:53
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: the only reason i suggest new people Ubuntu and not Kubuntu is because the Ubuntu docs have loads of screenshots they can follow21:54
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: Yes... That was someting that was asked at the linux con last weekend I went to. 21:54
RiddellDarkwingDuck: it has HTML at / and a wiki at /community no?21:54
shadeslayerof course once they can properly navigate the system, i offer them a choice 21:54
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: Also why I'm not running for re-election for leadership in my loco.21:55
DarkwingDuckI want to dedicate more timje to Kubuntu 21:55
shadeslayerw00t :D21:55
DarkwingDuckRiddell: help.ubuntu is offical documentation. I want the official docs for Kubuntu and screen/video casts. 21:57
DarkwingDuckThis way we don't bugger up the size of the sys docs with pictures and videos21:57
=== claydoh_ is now known as claydoh
DarkwingDuckBecause once we start adding screenshots of all of our stuff it will bloat the size to something I don't even want to dream about.21:58
DarkwingDuckAnd, space on Live is big enough21:59
DarkwingDuckRiddell: you want to to type sometihng up that feels a bit more official to sent over to the sysadmin gurus?22:00
claydoha help.kubuntu.org would be awesome, and i could help out on that. hopefully it would be faster than the ubuntu wikis22:01
DarkwingDuckclaydoh: Awesome22:01
DarkwingDuckclaydoh: where are you at in this world?22:01
RiddellDarkwingDuck: so would it be stat22:01
RiddellDarkwingDuck: so would it be static html or what22:02
claydohvideo and other short presentations would be  a trmendous boon  to Kubuntu and to KDE users in gerneral22:02
DarkwingDuckRiddell: Aye. at each release I'll port the documentation as well as new screen casts22:02
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: support for LTS and current release?22:03
shadeslayeror all of them?22:03
shadeslayerRiddell: Neon is a go :D22:03
DarkwingDuckMy cousan works for Apple. He was telling me about a video training program that Apple uses.22:03
DarkwingDuckWe can incorperate that as well.22:03
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: Whatever is supported22:03
Riddellthen it'll need a bzr branch and a request to sysadmin to have the website setup and synced off that branch22:04
DarkwingDuckIt will end up being the Kubuntu Support Center22:04
RiddellI'm afraid I need to pack for india and get on a plane now so I've no time22:04
DarkwingDuckRiddell: Okay, I'll set that up tonight.22:04
Riddellbut just e-mail rt@ubuntu.com22:04
shadeslayerRiddell: bon voyage22:05
Riddellshadeslayer: go in what way?22:05
shadeslayerRiddell: it installs and it works22:05
DarkwingDuckRiddell: I'll set it up with LP and bzr and email you the details.22:05
ryanakcaDarkwingDuck: What's the new theme for?22:05
Riddellshadeslayer: so we can announce along with your talk?22:05
* shadeslayer is using it for the past 3-4 hours22:05
DarkwingDuckryanakca: new theme?22:05
shadeslayerRiddell: well ... that works as well :D22:05
DarkwingDuckryanakca: ahhh, new theme for wiki.kubuntu22:05
ryanakcaOh, ok, nevermind22:05
DarkwingDuckryanakca: with the new branding ect.22:06
ryanakcaWe forgot to put Canonical's google analytics blurb in the last www.kubuntu.org theme.22:06
DarkwingDuckryanakca: oops.22:06
DarkwingDuckryanakca: Yet another one of the little projects I'm going to be investigating.22:06
DarkwingDuckRiddell: have fun in India22:07
DarkwingDuckRiddell: I'm dropping my request for sponsership to UDS soon.22:07
shadeslayerRiddell: with whom are you sharing your room with ? 22:07
Riddellshadeslayer: ingwa i think22:07
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: support.kubuntu.org or help.kubuntu.org?22:08
shadeslayerWill meet you on tuesday then :D22:08
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: hmm.. help.kubuntu.org22:08
shadeslayerfollow the ubuntu naming22:08
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: I was thinking that too22:10
DarkwingDuckOkay, I'll have to work on this when I get home. Too much for my battery to handle.22:14
DarkwingDuckshadeslayer: lp:kubuntu-help is where it will be hosted at.22:15
DarkwingDuckI just registered the project so I'll be pouring information into it shortly22:15
DarkwingDuckshortly = next few days22:15
Riddellshadeslayer: sandals or boots?22:16
shadeslayerRiddell: well .. it won't rain.. so sandals22:16
Riddellgood, don't need to pack socks then, another saving22:16
shadeslayerRiddell: did you get the mail about no shorts in the campus? :P22:16
Riddellshadeslayer: yes, but it didn't say anything about kilts22:16
DarkwingDuckRiddell: LP:kubuntu-help is where it will be. Once I have a working branch populated I'll let you know.22:17
DarkwingDuckRiddell: looks sexy in his kilt22:17
* shadeslayer starts disabling random stuff to check if bugs are fixed22:18
DarkwingDuckAre we still supporting anything before LTS?22:19
apacheloggershadeslayer: you look very french :O22:20
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: Read back22:20
apacheloggeralso apparently you mailed to somewhere else but lord google22:20
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: cant I get a one line summary? :S22:20
shadeslayerapachelogger: you mean i look like martin? :O22:21
shadeslayererm no22:21
DarkwingDuckI'm starting work on help.kubuntu.org that will include official documentation, screenshots and video training for Kubuntu.22:21
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: ^^22:21
apacheloggeris that news? :O22:21
apacheloggerhko is being though about for the last 17 years or so22:22
shadeslayerapachelogger: also .. i've found out the safari.jsp issue22:22
apacheloggeroh, hold on, kyoubuntoo is not that old22:22
apacheloggerdang it22:22
shadeslayerbut it's a HUGE patch22:22
DarkwingDuckworking on means activly and not just "I'll get to it because it's a good idea"22:22
apacheloggershadeslayer: patches must be huge, otherwise they would be broken :P22:22
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: ah, even more groovy then :D22:22
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: I'm going to work on the LTS and get it up and start building form there.22:23
DarkwingDuckBut, that means I'll keed to pull screen casts for tranlated languages. 22:23
* DarkwingDuck sighs22:23
apacheloggershadeslayer: reading your blah blah in #kubuntu makes me proud22:23
apacheloggeryou are becoming a half way proper clone allright22:23
DarkwingDuckFor video and screencasts... what languages should we include?22:24
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: french22:24
apacheloggerthere is a list of most awesome languages somewhere22:24
apacheloggerlet me ask grep22:24
DarkwingDuckFrench, German, English, Dutch...22:25
DarkwingDuckPortagisue (sp?)22:25
Riddell#by order of popcon (de fr es ru it pt pl zh ja nl cs sv hu el)22:25
shadeslayerit's 4 AM here22:25
shadeslayerand i'm like ... OMG This needs fixing .. OMG that needs fixing22:26
DarkwingDuckThe only issue with the languages with the video... We need someone who speaks those to be willing to talk and do video training.22:26
DarkwingDuckHmmm... This is going to be a nice little undertaking22:26
apacheloggerRiddell: you are faster than grep on /, why is that? ;)22:26
apacheloggershadeslayer: see, proper clone22:27
apacheloggeralso ....22:27
apacheloggerstop being in teh future22:27
apacheloggerit is confusing22:27
DarkwingDuckapachelogger: No, it's a good thing... then we can work more on the community22:27
apacheloggerimmediately I do not understand why22:29
* apachelogger blames it on timey wimey stuff22:29
shadeslayerApple put's in easter eggs as well22:29
DarkwingDuckWe have easter eggs?22:29
shadeslayeri'm sure KDE has easter eggs somewhere22:30
apacheloggermuon does22:30
apacheloggershadeslayer: how is inverted colors an esteregg?22:30
apacheloggerthat is a pretty valid use case22:30
DarkwingDuckThis still cracks me up... http://havethebuttonsmovedbackyet.com/22:32
apacheloggerI love it22:32
apacheloggersad that it still says no though22:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: can you give me command for night?22:32
DarkwingDuckWe'll have to uild one for Unity >:D22:33
apacheloggerthats the name22:33
apacheloggerDarkwingDuck: isitworkingyet.com?22:33
DarkwingDuckI was thinking gimmebackmydesktop.com22:33
shadeslayersudo add-apt-repository ppa:neon/ppa;sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install project-neon-all22:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^^22:33
apacheloggerwe needs one-click-install22:34
apacheloggerlike the opensuse22:34
DarkwingDuckSpeaking of opensuse...22:34
DarkwingDuckThey were jerks at the linux con I was at.22:34
apacheloggeryou are switching too?22:34
DarkwingDuckHellz no22:34
apacheloggertoo bad22:34
apacheloggerI am going to meeeego22:34
DarkwingDuckNot after the way I was treated.22:35
apacheloggerme go one might say22:35
* apachelogger rofl22:35
apacheloggerholy steve jobs!!!22:35
DarkwingDuckThey wouldn't give my kid a stuffed animal Because my badge said Kubuntu on it22:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: that wants to install one flippin gib of shit22:35
shadeslayerapachelogger: yes22:35
apacheloggerand zoooookanga22:35
shadeslayertry installing debug packages 22:35
apacheloggershadeslayer: /dev/sda6              19G   18G  833M  96% /22:35
apacheloggerI dont think so sweety22:36
shadeslayerapachelogger: it installs in /opt22:36
shadeslayersymlink your /opt22:36
* apachelogger wonders whether he accidently put porn on /22:37
yofelerm, the debugging packages install in /usr/lib/debug/opt/ so symlink that too :P22:37
yofelblame dpkg22:37
apacheloggerwhy do you strip them at all?22:38
apacheloggerif they are in the same pkg anyway22:38
yofelapachelogger: E_PKGS_TOO_LARGE?22:38
apacheloggeryofel: so they are in separate -dbg packages?22:38
yofelproject-neon-qt is freakin' >100M22:38
yofelproject-neon-qt-dbg I mean22:38
apacheloggerlzma 22:38
yofelapachelogger: yes22:38
yofelapachelogger: we already do that22:38
shadeslayereven after LZMA22:38
apacheloggerwhat sort of shit do you compile in qt? :P22:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: insanely large number of debug symbols22:39
apacheloggerI do not intend to install le dbg packages so I shoudl be good22:39
shadeslayerapachelogger: evarything22:39
shadeslayerok now i haz project-neon-all22:39
apacheloggerdoes it contain porn?22:39
apacheloggeror at least easter eggs?22:39
* apachelogger actually thinks about shipping phonon 4.5 with some porn22:40
apacheloggerfor testing reasons of course22:40
yofelthat would be a funny sound test lol22:40
shadeslayeradding */safari.jsp to the adblock rule makes it work22:44
shadeslayerwho said anything about a fix22:45
shadeslayerapachelogger: does it work?22:49
apacheloggerI was supposed to install it?22:51
apacheloggeryou should give clearer instructions really22:53
shadeslayerapachelogger: Step 1: Install Neon22:53
shadeslayerStep 2 : World Domination22:53
apacheloggerwhat is the comamnd again?22:53
shadeslayersudo add-apt-repository ppa:neon/ppa;sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install project-neon-all22:54
apacheloggerdoesnt run22:55
apacheloggerpowershell craps out22:55
yofelinstall cygwin22:56
yofelah wait, that probably doesn't have apt22:56
apacheloggerkubotu: google cygwin apt22:56
kubotuResults for cygwin apt: 1. apt for cygwin « Foo: http://donc.wordpress.com/2006/08/04/apt-for-cygwin/ | 2. apt-cyg - Project Hosting on Google Code: http://code.google.com/p/apt-cyg/ | 3. Cygwin install tips using cyg-apt « SaltyCrane Blog: http://www.saltycrane.com/blog/2007/11/cygwin-install-tips/22:56
shadeslayeror dpkg22:56
apacheloggeryou underestimate the power of windows22:57
shadeslayerok time to sleep22:59
shadeslayerit's flipping 4.30 AM here22:59
yofelheh, gn23:00
apacheloggerquassel just turned the day23:00
apacheloggerwtf, that thing can also control time :O23:00
apacheloggerclearly out of scope23:00
apacheloggerstupid fat software23:00
* apachelogger wonders whether he could become gogo dancer23:01
shadeslayerclearly rekonq is made up of magical code23:02
shadeslayeri don't understand a word in adblock23:02
apacheloggeryou need to implement a new strategy23:03
apacheloggerclearly there is something wrong if you have magical code23:03
DarkwingDuckHey, how is the spellcheck thingie doing in webkit/Rekonq?23:03
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: they could draw squigly lines the last i heard of it23:03
apacheloggerI once drew a line23:04
apacheloggerit was a circle23:04
shadeslayerclearly google must come in and merge their webkit code with the open source code23:04
shadeslayerand then Nokia must abstract a API over the webkit code to give us spell checck23:04
apacheloggerbrisbane could do it23:05
DarkwingDuckYeah... so the short answer is nope.23:05
shadeslayeryep ^^23:06
* DarkwingDuck mutters23:06
apacheloggeryou know23:06
apacheloggerkhtml has spell checking23:07
DarkwingDuckMy spelling sucks and I need that feture but I am sooooooooo sick of FF hogging RAM23:07
shadeslayeryou had to say that didn't you23:07
shadeslayerDarkwingDuck: use krunner to check spellings?23:07
DarkwingDuckIt only checks spelling in clipboard23:08
* apachelogger works on his go-go dancing skillz23:08
DarkwingDuckSo I have to copy it, then check spelling... Yeah I could.23:08
DarkwingDuckgo-go dancing? apachelogger you going to be at UDS in May?23:09
shadeslayeri'm sleeping23:09
apacheloggersuppose I could do mon-wed or something23:09
shadeslayernight all23:09
apacheloggershadeslayer: nini23:09
* DarkwingDuck smothers nixternal 23:12
apacheloggersleepslayer: go to bed1!#T2423:13
apacheloggeronce I have midnight installed23:13
sleepslayerI am in bed23:13
apacheloggerhow do I use it?23:13
apacheloggersleepslayer: get up you lazy minion!23:13
sleepslayerapachelogger: logout and choose neon23:14
apacheloggerI am watching windows23:14
apacheloggerno time for that23:14
=== sleepslayer is now known as sleepyslayer
sleepyslayerUh huh23:14
sleepyslayerapachelogger: rm -rf /media/Windows23:15
sleepyslayerapachelogger: are you in the future yet? 23:17
apacheloggersleepyslayer: my windows partition is called OS23:17
apacheloggeras it is the only real OS23:18
* sleepyslayer stabs /media/OS23:20
sleepyslayerLook .. its leaking .cabs all over the place23:20
sleepyslayerOk ... seriously ... night23:22
apacheloggeryeah sure23:22
* apachelogger commits suicide meanwhile23:22
apacheloggerkwin is gone :O23:24
apacheloggeryofel: I think it woudl be a good idea to prevent kds from applying to neon23:24
apacheloggerthe KDS settings are not tested with trunk and thus could at worst prevent proper login to neon23:24
apacheloggerwhat intersting things one can see in neon?23:25
yofelI already thought about that - but do you know any other way except ignoring /etc/kderc completely?23:25
apacheloggersure, patch :P23:26
yofelwell yeah, I hoped for something else...23:26
* apachelogger cant think of anything23:26
yofelI guess I could make it use /etc/neonrc or something like that23:26
apacheloggerthe date in the clock widget is still not themed according to the time23:27
apacheloggerthis is ultimate UX fail23:27
yofelthe mobile broadband provider into integration in KNM worked for me though in neon  - well, it added the information, but didn't actually connect23:27
apacheloggeryofel: kwin(7385) KDecorationPlugins::loadPlugin: kwin : path  "/opt/project-neon/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so"  for  "kwin3_oxygen"23:28
apacheloggerKWin: The library /opt/project-neon/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so is not a KWin plugin.23:28
apacheloggerKWin will now exit..23:28
apacheloggeris that the kwin issue you were looking into?23:28
yofelyeah, pretty much, that's the one, that I can only reproduce it in KVM doesn't really help though23:29
yofelI wondered today If wrapping kwin in something that set LD_LIBRARY_PATH for kwin only would work23:29
apacheloggerI can reproduce it very much on my here system ^^23:29
apacheloggeryofel: how woudl that prevent the issue?23:29
yofelapachelogger: I do think it would prevent it since 'sudo rm /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/styles/oxygen.so' is a ridiculous but working workaround23:30
apacheloggeryofel: oxygen.so is clashing with kwin3_oxygen.so?23:30
yofelpretty much23:31
yofelfrom what I got out of it so far23:31
yofelif kdm doesn't load system oxygen.so kwin will use neon oxygen.so fine23:31
apacheloggermy kwin is not even linked against any oxygen.so23:32
apacheloggerand the style correctly resolves to neon according to ldd23:32
apacheloggerme@avatar:~$ ldd /opt/project-neon/lib/kde4/kwin3_oxygen.so  |grep oxygen23:32
apachelogger        liboxygenstyle.so.4 => /opt/project-neon/lib/liboxygenstyle.so.4 (0xb71b0000)23:32
apacheloggerScottK: what do I use for copyright in n900 integration ... the meego branches do not contain licensing or anything23:42
yofelhm, wrapping kwin seems to actually work...23:54

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