=== claydoh is now known as LuckyStrike === LuckyStrike is now known as claydoh [03:13] Allo gent's/girls [03:13] allo [03:14] Oi, it's Jjesse! [03:14] How ya been man [03:16] good how are you? [03:16] Oh decent [03:16] good to hear that [03:16] Trying to get over this damn cold I have [03:17] coolio [03:17] getting ready for bed [03:17] K later then [03:17] Enjoy sleep [03:32] jjesse-vm: Hi [03:32] Doh! [03:32] Missed hin :) [03:32] Him [03:32] :d [03:32] Lols [05:51] good morning :) === zkriesse_ is now known as zkriesse [08:15] morning === fabo__ is now known as fabo [08:33] can anyone please tell me what is project-neon exactly? [08:44] c2tarun: it is a way to easily install trunk [08:44] and be able to switch back and forth [08:45] you might read shadeslayer's slides he posted earlier [08:45] valorie: where can I get them [08:45] ? [08:46] http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Project%20Neon [08:47] or http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Project%20Neon/Kubuntu_Project_Neon.html [08:48] valorie: thanks :) [08:48] :-) [08:50] valorie: my net is working very slow :( is that any way I download shadeslayer's slides and view them ofline? [08:51] sure, wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/Project%20Neon [08:51] <3 wget === AndChat| is now known as droidslayer [11:00] apachelogger: i cannot reproduce your bug about cookies [11:01] i shut down the laptop last night and when i open gmail/facebook today, it directly gets me to my mail/feed [11:36] I added the Neon PPA to Natty, but I can't install meta-project-neon, the package cannot be found [11:43] ulysses: it's project-neon-base or -all, meta is the source package name [11:44] yofel: thanks, I see meta-project-neon on the Launchpad page [11:45] which one? [11:45] ah, the ppa page? that shows source package names, you need to expand the package details to list binary package names [12:46] shadeslayer: and yet it is there :P [12:46] if you tell me how to debug it I shall gladly do that [13:04] shadeslayer: ping ping ping ping ping [13:09] debian/not-installed:usr/lib/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlite3.so # TODO get kubuntu mobile using sqlite [13:09] groovy [13:09] not-installed [13:09] love it [13:36] apachelogger: what about your tablet ? :) [13:36] (I acquired a tablet recently right ?) [13:37] s/i/you/ [13:37] bambee meant: "(I acquyoured a tablet recently right ?)" [13:37] * apachelogger just broke wifi [13:40] * bambee executes kubotu_->setProperty("quiet", QVariant(true)); [13:44] just be happy that kubotu_ stopped talking nonsense [13:52] we can change that [13:52] bambee: not really kubotu_'s fault that you don't use the right commands :P [13:52] kubotu_: restart [13:53] apachelogger: arrfff :P [14:17] apachelogger: yes [14:30] shadeslayer: I forgot [14:30] ah [14:31] shadeslayer: didnt you see the rendering issues with gmail are fixed or something? [14:31] in rekonq [14:31] also gmail is so incredibly slow I can start scrolling before going to bed and maybe it is finished by the time I get up [14:32] also [14:32] it always pops up a download dialog for safari.jsp [14:32] no clue why [14:32] I go somewhere [14:32] save as pops up [14:38] yes that's a bug and it's been reported and targetted for 0.7 [14:38] i think it's a adblock issue and such [14:38] apachelogger: did you figure out how to set focus stealing for tabs yet? :P [14:39] and rekonq has demand attention set instead of raisewindow .... [14:39] ( for clicking url's in quassel and such ) [14:40] and yeah i experience some weird hang's as well .... don't know if those are reported yet or not [14:41] apachelogger: you have a ATi card... i blame everything on AMD [14:41] ( the issue with tab's is also known and is being worked upon as we speak ) [14:42] * shadeslayer upgrades to 4.6.1 [14:43] apachelogger: that bug is most reproducible on kde-look.org [14:43] or kde-apps.org [14:46] apachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/6613 === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna [15:37] shadeslayer: I have an intel chip... [15:38] s/amd/Intel [15:38] :P [15:38] shadeslayer: about attention vs. raise window [15:38] I think attention is indeed more appropriate [15:38] BUT [15:38] fails utterly on netbook [15:38] as apps-demands-attention is not supported in the task management paradigm at all [15:39] well ... one could check the size of the screen and choose accordingly [15:39] ScottK: what do you think about putting kpk in the SAL favorites? [15:39] like we do in plasma-netbook [15:39] ScottK: I do not see how anyone would find it unless thye know where it is [15:40] shadeslayer: that is bogus, if at all you should query dbus and check whether plasma-netbook or something else is used [15:40] ah [15:40] of course that is a bloody workaround [15:40] lol [15:40] shadeslayer: you should talk to mgraesslin really [15:41] shadeslayer: I could also imagine somehow making attention demanding possibly in plasma-netbook [15:41] have the task dropdown thing flash wildly or somesuch [15:41] display a troll head [15:41] haha [15:42] hm [15:42] kpk has bad UX [15:42] for some reason I expected the search to be on-the-fly rather than once-you-hit-enter [15:42] might be because it looks more like a filter [15:43] * apachelogger installs lightweight working browser [15:43] wtf is happening [15:43] kde-apps.org is broken [15:43] they are surely switching to owncloud right now [15:43] did you not get the memo? :P [15:43] s/memo/maemo [15:43] heh [15:44] apachelogger: i got the android ... not the maemo [15:44] lame [15:44] talking about android [15:44] and yet you have a android tablet [15:44] is there any better virtual keyboards? [15:44] is there any better home screen stuff? [15:44] is there any better wallpaper mumbo jumbo [15:44] ? [15:44] Try out the HTC IME Mod [15:45] also FTR, I have an android tablet so that I can remove android and put kyoubuntoo on it [15:45] ^^ something i want to do with my phone [15:45] shadeslayer: konqueror works 9000% better than rekonq [15:45] please explain [15:45] what [15:45] apachelogger: konqueror is outdated and uses KHTML which is older than IE6 [15:46] dude [15:46] your browser uses webkit which is based on khtml, making it older than IE 6 [15:46] also, dont stop IE6, it was the longest serving and most adopted web browser evar [15:46] "based on KHTML" vs "Uses KHTML" [15:47] also .. does someone even maintain KHTML now? 0.o [15:47] yes [15:47] poor guy/s [15:47] stop bashing khtml alraedy [15:47] so like fregl is coming ... [15:47] IMHO it has a way more hackable tree than webkit anyway [15:47] fregl: will you bring CD's of Fluffy? [15:47] bring where? [15:47] paris [15:48] hilton [15:48] fregl: you're coming to Bangalore right? [15:48] I am in Bangalore :D [15:48] oh [15:48] :O [15:48] fregl: i arrive on tuesday [15:48] fregl: what's the weather like :P [15:49] cold, or so they say [15:49] cold? 0.o [15:49] only like 17 deg cel [15:49] it's flipping 32oC [15:49] ^^ in the day :P [15:49] * apachelogger is freezing just thinking about 17 [15:49] kubotu: weather somewhere, austria [15:49] kubotu: hello?!?!? [15:49] re apachelogger [15:49] -.- [15:49] kubotu: help weather [15:49] no help for topic weather [15:50] you can go scru yerself! [15:50] kubotu: config list [15:50] modules: server, lastfm, http, wikipedia, send, autoop, nickserv, markov, irclog, irc, remote, debug, seen, rss, factoids, poll, core, twitter, rejoin, keyword, log, greet, plugins, translator, google, auth, encoding, salut, host, ri, chanserv, wheelfortune [15:50] kubotu: config list core [15:50] core.save_every, core.nick_postfix, core.db, core.address_prefix, core.run_as_daemon, core.private_replies, core.language, core.reply_with_nick [15:50] kubotu: config list plugins [15:50] plugins.whitelist, plugins.path, plugins.blacklist [15:50] kubotu: config get plugins.blacklist [15:50] plugins.blacklist: azgame, chucknorris, deepthoughts, delicious, dice, digg, forecast, fortune, freshmeat, geoip, imdb, math, roulette, slashdot, spell, theyfightcrime, threat, wheeloffortune, youtube, dictclient, dict, realm, grouphug, bash, cal, weather, rot, hl2, wow, tube, url, remotectl, linkbot, babel, figlet, debug, quiz [15:50] whatever happend to the weather plugin [15:50] ah [15:51] forecast maybe [15:51] kubotu: config rm forecast from plugins.blacklist [15:51] plugins.blacklist: azgame, chucknorris, deepthoughts, delicious, dice, digg, fortune, freshmeat, geoip, imdb, math, roulette, slashdot, spell, theyfightcrime, threat, wheeloffortune, youtube, dictclient, dict, realm, grouphug, bash, cal, weather, rot, hl2, wow, tube, url, remotectl, linkbot, babel, figlet, debug, quiz [15:51] this config change will take effect on the next rescan [15:51] kubotu: rescan [15:51] saving ... [15:51] rescanning ... [15:51] done. 10 core modules loaded; 55 plugins loaded; 31 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load [15:51] shadeslayer: so, I consulted the market for htc ime and it yields nothing [15:51] what to do? [15:51] oh it ain't on the market [15:51] kubotu: help forecast [15:52] forecast => show the 2-day forecast for a location. Location can be any combination of City, State, Country and ZIP [15:52] shadeslayer: what is the point of this shitty market then? :O [15:52] kubotu: forecast somewhere, austria [15:52] Point is not on NDFD grid [15:52] Couldn't find forecast for somewhere,austria [15:52] * apachelogger blinks [15:52] apachelogger: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416 [15:52] kubotu: forecast vienna, austria [15:52] Point is not on NDFD grid [15:52] Couldn't find forecast for vienna,austria [15:52] right [15:52] kubotu: config add forecast to plugins.blacklist [15:52] plugins.blacklist: azgame, chucknorris, deepthoughts, delicious, dice, digg, fortune, freshmeat, geoip, imdb, math, roulette, slashdot, spell, theyfightcrime, threat, wheeloffortune, youtube, dictclient, dict, realm, grouphug, bash, cal, weather, rot, hl2, wow, tube, url, remotectl, linkbot, babel, figlet, debug, quiz, forecast [15:52] this config change will take effect on the next rescan [15:53] apachelogger: there's also something called swift type or something [15:53] apachelogger: swiftkey [15:54] so why does google deploy it with a shitty default kbd if there is better craps available? [15:54] shadeslayer: they have a full version of swiftkey [15:55] trials ftw [15:55] same reason as why they deploy shitty camera software [15:56] shadeslayer: and what is the reason? [15:56] apachelogger: they fail at making UX [15:56] lovely [15:57] also where is our dictator? [15:57] * apachelogger justed wanted to propose ditching kubuntu and instead make kubuntu mobile as to get rid of shitty android kbds [15:57] dictator? [15:57] mark [15:58] * apachelogger embraces the you-cannot-play-music-while-mounted-on-pc paradigm [15:58] ah [15:59] shadeslayer: did you get Qt on yer phone yet? [15:59] no [15:59] ministro crashes [15:59] you are very slow [15:59] apachelogger: the app is foobared [15:59] I already have a qml port of qtmobilevlc ready :D :D [15:59] O_O [15:59] doesn't do video though [15:59] lol [16:00] which makes the whole thing a bit pointless [16:00] agreed [16:00] but for that I need to mess with opengl stuffz [16:00] apachelogger: got the source code somewhere? [16:00] * apachelogger is a bit scared of that [16:00] shadeslayer: no [16:00] :) [16:00] it is floating about on my hdd in graz [16:00] which is like 200km away [16:01] apachelogger: i'm all sorts of out of bandwidth [16:01] * apachelogger installs the htc stuff [16:01] oh [16:01] apachelogger: you need to r00t [16:01] shadeslayer: that does not compute [16:01] to install [16:01] whut? [16:01] why? [16:01] WIIOEWIGIH [16:01] android-- [16:01] android-- [16:01] android-- [16:01] android-- [16:01] android-- [16:01] apachelogger: it's a zip file.. [16:01] android-- [16:01] so? [16:01] I do not follow [16:02] apachelogger: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/network/rekonq/repository/revisions/master/entry/src/webpage.cpp#L432 [16:02] that's the problem [16:02] in rekonq [16:03] clearly your algorihtm is flawed :P [16:04] aha [16:04] the htc ime thing simply crashes [16:04] android-- [16:06] what [16:06] O_O [16:06] apachelogger: clearly you did not fix the permissions [16:06] there is no talk going on about permissions [16:06] apachelogger: I think kpk in SAL favorites is fine. [16:07] groovy [16:07] SAL? is that like HAL? [16:07] No [16:07] It's not HAL's sister. [16:07] shadeslayer: search and launch [16:07] or lunch [16:08] ah [16:08] depends on your POV I guess [16:08] apachelogger: You aren't supposed to give the minion the complete answer. Then there's no struggle for enlighenment. [16:09] ScottK: that minion is struggling for years, I doubt he will ever make it :S [16:09] Yes, but it's a journey, not a destination. [16:09] * apachelogger notes that the empire of phonon has uniquly awesome ideas for tablety video players [16:10] ScottK: did you ever go somewhere just to be walking though? [16:10] kubotu: config rm youtube from plugins.blacklist [16:10] plugins.blacklist: azgame, chucknorris, deepthoughts, delicious, dice, digg, fortune, freshmeat, geoip, imdb, math, roulette, slashdot, spell, theyfightcrime, threat, wheeloffortune, dictclient, dict, realm, grouphug, bash, cal, weather, rot, hl2, wow, tube, url, remotectl, linkbot, babel, figlet, debug, quiz, forecast [16:10] this config change will take effect on the next rescan [16:10] kubotu: rescan [16:10] saving ... [16:11] rescanning ... [16:11] done. 10 core modules loaded; 55 plugins loaded; 31 plugins ignored; 1 plugin failed to load [16:11] kubotu: youtube mgmt kids [16:11] Videos for mgmt kids: 1. MGMT "Kids" Video (4'35") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIEOZCcaXzE&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 2. MGMT- Kids (5'27") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7JthgTMHDU&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 3. MGMT - Kids (6'7") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe4EK4HSPkI&feature=youtube_gdata_player [16:11] [1] MGMT "Kids" Video (4'35"): HD Version: www.itsjonsalmon.com Article about the video www.canyon-news.com About Abby and Rafael: www.myspace.com/abrafever Just to set the story straight: the facepainted kids in the video are a boy and girl from Los Angeles, two friends of mine, names Raf and Abby. MGMT was not involved in the making of this video, however, they became involved down the line. The story goes like t... [16:11] [2] MGMT- Kids (5'27"): "Kids" by MGMT from the "Time To Pretend" EP from Cantora Records. Available on iTunes and at www.cantorarecords.com [16:11] [3] MGMT - Kids (6'7"): Music video by MGMT performing Kids. (c) 2009 Sony Music Entertainment [16:11] srsly [16:11] who needs that many hits [16:11] good lawd [16:11] kubotu: config list youtube [16:11] youtube.hits, youtube.descs, youtube.formats [16:11] kubotu: config get youtube.hits [16:11] youtube.hits: 3 [16:11] kubotu: config set youtube.hits 1 [16:11] aight [16:11] kubotu: config get youtube.descs [16:11] youtube.descs: 3 [16:12] kubotu: config set youtube.hits 3 [16:12] lemme take care of that for you [16:12] kubotu: config set youtube.descs 0 [16:12] can do! [16:12] kubotu: youtube the flying bus [16:12] Videos for the flying bus: 1. Flying School Bus that Transforms MUST SEE! (1'6") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUDuPWRiRug&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 2. The Making of the Flying Bus (2'10") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTDJrMu24b8&feature=youtube_gdata_player | 3. Just Cause 2: The Flying Bus (3'59") @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivYQih2TlFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player [16:12] more like it [16:13] guys vlc uses qt right? so is it linked to the qt libraries in the system or it does something else? [16:13] apparle: what else would it do? [16:13] shadeslayer: so, is there any good live wallpaper thing? [16:14] * apachelogger actually came to wonder why plasma does not have that sorta thing [16:14] apachelogger: then why are the tooltips yellow coloured in vlc and blue everywhere else in the natty alpha 3 [16:14] apparle: one can customize that [16:14] as app dev you can actually change just about anything [16:15] mind that our installer is done in Qt, yet it does not look like a Qt app for the better part [16:15] (by Qt app I mean a QWidgets based one, obviously a QML based one would look like however the dev wants it to look anyway ^^) [16:15] apachelogger: is there anyway to make it back to blue, it does look odd [16:15] apachelogger: except recompile my own package with a patch [16:16] apparle: depends on why it is yellow to begin with ^^ [16:16] though [16:16] apachelogger: I suppose because it matches with ubuntu themes [16:16] actually you can pass a color param [16:16] s/color/stylesheet [16:17] --stylesheet [16:17] or somesuch [16:17] I'll look it up [16:17] apparle: where is such a tooltip? [16:18] apachelogger: when you hover your mouse over the play button or stop button etc [16:18] * apachelogger looks [16:19] well [16:19] that looks actually like they paint the tooltip themself [16:19] apachelogger: it is alright in maverick, so I thought why it has changed a colour [16:20] apachelogger: why would they do that, when it used to appear correctly everywhere [16:20] there certainly is no patch that does it [16:20] apparle: #videolan [16:20] oh [16:20] apachelogger: yes [16:21] there's a wallpaper with a cute racoon [16:21] :P [16:21] :O [16:22] apachelogger: install fancy widget tho [16:22] quite nice [16:24] apachelogger: any idea how to fix that logic? [16:25] shadeslayer: sure, make it less global :P [16:25] if your app runs logic on something it should not run it on then clearly you did not define the conditions tight enough ;) [16:26] hmm [16:27] oggy oggy oggy [16:28] apachelogger: did any of the keyboards work? [16:28] shadeslayer: fancy widget seems a bit pointless TBH? [16:28] no [16:28] I am back to android default [16:28] apachelogger: well ... i like to have some sort of weather info on my screen [16:28] that's why i have it [16:29] yeah but the clock seems utter pointless [16:29] as every clock app seems utter pointless [16:29] aye [16:29] to that extend I would rather have a weather only applet ;) [16:29] seeing how android displays the time on the right [16:29] though I personally do not have much use for a weather applet either [16:29] weather in ausria is always shitty, no need of reminding me ^^ [16:29] s/ausria/austria [16:31] * ScottK wonders why one needs a weather app in India. Isn't it either hot and wet or hot and dry depending on the season (so a calendar is sufficient)? [16:35] ScottK: more or less .. but sometimes there are random spells of rain [16:35] if you get caught up in one of those [16:35] you certainly won't be able to reach home [16:36] do it the english way, take an umbrella with you :P [16:36] and a hat of course [16:37] * apachelogger packs his bag [16:38] 3 bottles of whisky, 2 bottles of wine and a tooth brush [16:38] done [16:38] \o/ [16:39] apachelogger: you forgot soda ;) [16:42] what for? [16:42] He's probably thinking you want to contaminate your Whisky with impurities of some kind. [16:43] whut? :O [16:43] zomg [16:43] * apachelogger faints [16:43] haha [16:44] apachelogger: i could check if the mimetype is null and just return [16:44] guys, I think a kubuntu-netbook image for ac100 would be great and very interesting for the community => existing solutions are preinstalled non-official maverick images. (ubuntu 11.04 will propose ARM support... It's a good idea, imho). I could help on testing, debugging and so on. (while still helping for x86 tasks) [16:45] go ahead and do it :P [16:45] or get devices for other people so you are not alone ^^ [16:45] ScottK is very into netbooks I hear :P [16:45] bambee: What would it need that a standard arm netbook image wouldn't provide. [16:46] ScottK: we even have a standard arm netbook image? [16:46] apachelogger: We will once we get arm actually working. [16:46] * apachelogger notes that device integration work is always good to have on arm [16:46] * apachelogger waves fist at proprietary foobar [16:48] According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest we'll have it for omap3/4. [16:49] bambee: What sort of arm is ac100? [16:49] ScottK: it's a cortexA9 so I think arm netbook images should work. But it requires tegra2 kernel supports [16:50] If there will be a kernel for it in the archive and you're willing to test the images it should be ~doable. [16:50] it requires also a presinstalled image for booting. [16:50] Yes. That's what we're going to have for arm. [16:54] the non trivial task : the user must flash the default bootloader in order to boot on SSD,SD or USB... (so boot the preinstalled image) [16:54] ugly but required o_O [17:16] apachelogger: what did you follow to get Qt onto your tablet? [17:18] apachelogger: I do not propose this idea to get people to do it for me but to do it myself or help to do it. Nevertheless If I had some money, hardware donations would have been made since a while. [17:18] ;) [17:20] shadeslayer: the white rabbit (remember matrix) :P [17:20] haha :P [17:21] yow... [17:22] the lighthouse project is like 800megs [17:22] o_O [17:22] what's that? [17:22] Receiving objects: 14% (76268/523612), 143.32 MiB | 2.23 MiB/s [17:22] yofel: Qt on Android [17:23] ah, yowch [17:23] and that's on your thinkpad btw [17:23] i went O_O [17:23] LOL [17:23] shadeslayer: alpha for now ? [17:23] bambee: Qt on android? yes [17:23] fregl: where are you staying btw? [17:24] yofel: we need help with our environment.rc [17:24] or do you think you can finish it tomorrow [17:24] ? [17:24] Quick Qt question... does Qt on iOS exist? [17:24] don't think so [17:25] not yet anyways [17:25]