[00:13] <FloridaGuy> have a hp media center  tv tunner card. has a FM tunner on the tv tunner..can record tv shows...whats a good tv tunner package for that setup
[00:29] <apparle> yofel: ping
[00:33] <Alonea> ok, ran into first issue. My internal mic doesn't seem to be working. I checked alsa mixer and I turned the mic boost up, I don't see a regular mic
[00:37] <Alonea> and my usb headset doesn't work either
[00:41] <Alonea> ok, I have internal audo analog stereo under capture devices
[01:23] <Guest6001> Hi, I'm not sure how this is supposed to work, but I have a problem with my kubuntu desktop and was wondering if anyone hre could give me some advice ...
[01:25] <arrrghhh> !ask | Guest6001
[01:26] <Guest6001> I somehow lost the main menu button, or whatever it is called, the little KDE icon which is similar to the windows start menu button
[01:26] <Guest6001> ok, sorry
[01:26] <arrrghhh> Guest6001: do you still have the bottom bar?
[01:26] <arrrghhh> readd the widget
[01:27] <Guest6001> yes, I have the bottom bar, which widget is that?
[01:27] <arrrghhh> uhhhh
[01:28] <arrrghhh> think it'd be pretty obvious but the Application Launcher?
[01:28] <arrrghhh> looks like a giant K with a gear behind it?
[01:28] <arrrghhh> blue?
[01:28] <jaime> hi, why does the kubuntu d/l website say 32bit is recommended? any glaring problems with the 64bit edition?
[01:29] <Guest6001> but how do I get it back in the bottem left corner in the bottom bar?
[01:29] <arrrghhh> drag it?
[01:30] <nata> jaime: to aviod some people download 64bit to his 32bit computer
[01:31] <Guest6001> sorry, but how? if I click that thing, it opens a popup menu
[01:31] <jaime> nata: i am one of 'those' people ;) i thought there are technical reasons. myself am running another 64bit distro with no problems worth metioning
[01:31] <nata> Guest6001: right click panel/panels options/panel settings/then move your button to left
[01:32] <rww> jaime: feel free to ignore that "recommendation", then.
[01:32] <Guest6001> ok, thanks, that worked
[01:32] <jaime> jaime: meh, i am nnot one of 'those' people, but sometimes i make typing errors :D thanks anyway, gnighty
[01:33]  * rww wishes Canonical would change it to a sentence along the lines of "(if you don't know which you need, get 32-bit)"
[01:33] <Guest6001> do you have any idea what I did wrong that would make it disappear in the first place?
[01:33] <nata> jaime: haha..you is that people. but now stil have a little bit software dont have 64bit version. future will be
[01:34] <jaime> nata: i'm assuming the 64' is a multilib system?
[01:34] <arrrghhh> Guest6001: rigth click happy?
[01:34] <arrrghhh> you can remove the widget
[01:34] <arrrghhh> the menubars are very customizable.
[01:35] <Guest6001> yes, I kind of stumbled upon that on, I guess
[01:36] <nata> Guest6001: lock the wigget to avoid further change of  panel
[01:36] <Guest6001> and the difference between panel and widget is unclear to me
[01:36] <Guest6001> ok, I did that, thanks
[01:36] <arrrghhh> Guest6001: panel is the bar
[01:37] <arrrghhh> widget are things that go on the bar
[01:37] <arrrghhh> widgets can also be free-floating
[01:37] <nata> jaime: for my recommendation, your 64bit system can install more 'ia32' in kpackagekit or synaptic for better support to those 32 software
[01:37] <arrrghhh> i have a maddening issue.  i have no shutdown or restart button, how can that be?
[01:37] <Guest6001> ok, so a panel is basically blank?
[01:37] <arrrghhh> Guest6001: if you add a new one, yes.
[01:37] <arrrghhh> the default panel comes with some things on it
[01:38] <Guest6001> off course, otherwise simple folk (like me) would not be able to use the desktop
[01:38] <jaime> nata: aka multilib. thx alot
[01:38] <nata> arrrghhh: are you using kubuntu?
[01:38] <arrrghhh> nata: yes, 10.10
[01:39] <arrrghhh> Guest6001: yes..
[01:39] <arrrghhh> nata: just tried adding the 'leave' widget, and when i hit the power button the only option i get is logout :/
[01:40] <Guest6001> thank you
[01:40] <arrrghhh> Guest6001: np.  might want to create a nickname too ;)
[01:41] <nata> arrrghhh: very trouble. i think you have problem in right for shutdown the computer
[01:41] <arrrghhh> nata: i just do sudo shutdown -h now or -r now
[01:41] <arrrghhh> but that's not a very good solution.
[01:42] <arrrghhh> nata: not sure what you mean by that either.  i saw this on my liveUSB install of regular vanilla ubuntu as well.  didn't happen on ubuntu booting from the hdd tho
[01:42] <arrrghhh> pyromax: when you find one that hasn't been taken, register it!
[01:42] <nata> arrrghhh: wait ya, I'm finding a posible solution for you
[01:42] <arrrghhh> nata: okie.
[01:43] <pyromax> how do I do that, as I said when I typed my first message: I have never done this before?
[01:43] <arrrghhh> pyromax: is this nick not taken?
[01:43] <arrrghhh> i think if you msg nickserv he'll tell you
[01:44] <arrrghhh> pyromax: sorry /msg nickserv help
[01:45] <pyromax> hmm, nothing seems to happen when I type that, is that because I use Opera for this?
[01:45] <arrrghhh> what?
[01:45] <arrrghhh> if you're on IRC it should work.
[01:45] <arrrghhh> i use konversation.
[01:45] <nata> arrrghhh: check your system settings/login screen/shutdown tab. at local the should be 'everybody'. at halt there is '/sbin/halt'. at reboot there is '/sbin/reboot'. check and see
[01:46] <arrrghhh> yup
[01:46] <arrrghhh> all of those things match nata
[01:46] <nata> arrrghhh: ...
[01:47] <nata> hehe
[01:48] <arrrghhh> ?
[01:48] <arrrghhh> i don't get why this isn't working out of the box.
[01:48] <arrrghhh> i had ubuntu 10.10 installed for a long time
[01:48] <arrrghhh> then installed kubuntu-desktop
[01:48] <arrrghhh> something else i'm missing?
[01:49] <arrrghhh> hrm
[01:49] <arrrghhh> i think gdm is still the login screen
[01:49] <arrrghhh> could that be the problem?
[01:49] <FloodBotK2> arrrghhh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <arrrghhh> oops.  sorry FloodBotK2 :P
[01:50] <elvingsoto> helo
[01:50] <pyromax> ehlo
[01:50] <jaime> i want to make a bootable usb-stick from the cd with unetbootin. the web docu says it must be 2GB or bigger. my stick is 1GB and i see no reason why the cd version it wouldn't fit?
[01:51] <arrrghhh> jaime: i think that's if you want some persistent storage, but i could be wrong.
[01:51] <jaime> does it uncompress a squashfs or something?
[01:51] <arrrghhh> IE some space to put user data on.
[01:51] <nata> arrrghhh: tell you some. before that my default kubuntu install gnome desktop, gnome also have shutdown button. that time i think is configuration problem :)
[01:51] <elvingsoto> i want to conect to the nasa satelite, to watch my house
[01:51] <arrrghhh> elvingsoto: lol
[01:51] <arrrghhh> nata: eh?
[01:51] <jaime> arrrghhh: makes sense, i won't need storage. but 300mb should suffice anyway
[01:52] <arrrghhh> should i try GDM?
[01:52] <pyromax> you think your house it going to run offf?
[01:52] <arrrghhh> er
[01:52] <arrrghhh> kdm
[01:52] <FloodBotK2> arrrghhh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:52] <arrrghhh> damnit, i keep using enter as punctuation.  bad internet habit :/
[01:52] <elvingsoto> alguie habla espanol
[01:52] <arrrghhh> !es | elvingsoto
[01:52] <nata> arrrghhh: better use back kdm
[01:53] <arrrghhh> nata: is that in system settings?  i don't remember where that's set.
[01:53] <pyromax> arrrghhh: you are missing the shutdown and restart option in the "leave" part of the application widget?
[01:53] <elvingsoto> ohh i only can speak englis here, why
[01:54] <nata> arrrghhh: that time i'm create new user to solve this problem...
[01:54] <arrrghhh> elvingsoto: because we all speak english.  if you want to speak spanish, join #ubuntu-es
[01:54] <arrrghhh> nata: bleh.
[01:54] <elvingsoto> okey
[01:56] <nata> arrrghhh: maybe you could try more setting in system setting/user management/modify.../click admisnister for system
[01:56] <jaime> arrrghhh: just to confirm, 714M used, 249M free. maybe the native usb-ifier does something different than unetbootin. or maybe it's just the common state of ubuntu docu...
[01:56] <arrrghhh> jaime: not sure TBH.  1gb flash drive?  is that from 2001?  :P
[01:57] <arrrghhh> all mine are 4gb... so it's never been a problem.  sorry!
[01:57] <elvingsoto> thankyou
[01:57] <jaime> arrrghhh: around there
[01:57] <zy> my sound intermittenly skips regardlesss in amarok and dragonplayer, any suggestions on how to solve this?
[01:57] <arrrghhh> heh
[01:59] <elvingsoto> i want to go to the ubuntu to kubuntu in my pc
[01:59] <pyromax> I had that sound problem once, it turned out to be a faulty power plug, but I suppose it's not that simple this time? (wriggling it around temporarlily solved the problem)
[01:59] <arrrghhh> elvingsoto: install kubuntu-desktop
[01:59] <nata> elvingsoto: isit you click add document in '++mb' so your usb drive not enough space.
[01:59] <elvingsoto> is all
[01:59] <elvingsoto> i did
[02:00] <arrrghhh> elvingsoto: it's a meta-package, so there will be many, many packages to install.
[02:00] <zy> pyromax: don't think so.. it works fine on win7.
[02:00] <elvingsoto> and full kde
[02:01] <pyromax> zy: then I simply do not know, sorry
[02:01] <zy> pyromax: and since it affects multiple programs, i think maybe it has to do with phonon or the hardware
[02:02] <zy> pyromax: nvm thanks
[02:02] <arrrghhh> zy: did you see if there were any hardware drivers?
[02:02] <pyromax> zy: if it was a hardware problem, wouldn't it also register in win7 ?
[02:03] <arrrghhh> yea, but ubuntu perhaps doesn't support his sound card correctly, or there's some proprietary drivers that cannot be included in ubuntu.
[02:03] <PSWZ-ZhangY> Hi, who can help me report a bug, please? The installer crashed when I was in the configuring partition step, setting the mounting point of a ext4 partition. I was using kubuntu 10.10 installer, amd64, after the installer crashed, the computer get into the desktop, like " try kubuntu without any change"
[02:03] <PSWZ-ZhangY> Thanks!!
[02:03] <pyromax> ok, then: what arrrghhh says: hardware drives?
[02:04] <zy> arrrghhh: yep it detects it correctly
[02:04] <elvingsoto> and how abou kde full?
[02:04] <arrrghhh> elvingsoto: i don't know what you mean.
[02:04] <elvingsoto> okey
[02:05] <elvingsoto> full kde
[02:05] <arrrghhh> kubuntu is "full kde"
[02:06] <zy> pyromax: what i meant its problem with hardware drivers or something
[02:06] <PSWZ-ZhangY> Hi, who can help me report a bug, please? The installer crashed when I was in the configuring partition step, setting the mounting point of a ext4 partition. I was using kubuntu 10.10 installer, amd64, after the installer crashed, the computer get into the desktop, like " try kubuntu without any change", Thanks!!
[02:08] <arrrghhh> PSWZ-ZhangY: can't you try to reinstall?
[02:09] <arrrghhh> doesn't sound bug tracker worthy, no offense - unless you have extensive logs.
[02:09] <PSWZ-ZhangY> yes, I tried, but it crashed again~~
[02:09] <pyromax> PSWZ-ZhangY: is the dvd/cd-image ok?
[02:10] <PSWZ-ZhangY> the installer crashes "not everytime"
[02:10] <PSWZ-ZhangY> yes , the cd is ok, i ran the check media utility
[02:11] <arrrghhh> i wonder if the disk is messed up
[02:11] <arrrghhh> PSWZ-ZhangY: odd indeed.  have you tried formatting manually ?
[02:11] <PSWZ-ZhangY> formatting the partition?
[02:11] <arrrghhh> yes, what else?
[02:11] <claydoh> PSWZ-ZhangY: also try burning at a slower speed, it often helps
[02:12] <arrrghhh> the hard disk in question.
[02:12] <claydoh> and !md5sum
[02:12] <arrrghhh> heh needs to start with that claydoh
[02:12] <arrrghhh> !md5sum | PSWZ-ZhangY
[02:12] <PSWZ-ZhangY> i didn't format the partition, because I have a lot of things in it ~
[02:13] <arrrghhh> PSWZ-ZhangY: wha?
[02:13] <arrrghhh> you have to format the partition.
[02:13] <PSWZ-ZhangY> ok~ I promise the cd is ok
[02:13] <arrrghhh> backup everything
[02:13] <PSWZ-ZhangY> o~
[02:14] <claydoh> PSWZ-ZhangY: unless you want to try !wubi , but yes you will have to make space and create a partiton for the OS otherwise
[02:14] <arrrghhh> lol claydoh
[02:14] <PSWZ-ZhangY> but i can mount it and go through the installer the same way(no formatting) when installing ubuntu 10.10
[02:14] <arrrghhh> dunno
[02:15] <arrrghhh> i ALWAYS format.
[02:15] <pyromax> PSWZ-ZhangY: that's like a live-cd?
[02:15] <pyromax> that's not really installing, is it?
[02:16] <arrrghhh> well
[02:16] <arrrghhh> you can install it from the livecd
[02:16] <PSWZ-ZhangY> no~ sorry for my expressing~
[02:17] <arrrghhh> ...?
[02:17] <pyromax> no problem, I guess English is not your first language ( or second)?
[02:18] <PSWZ-ZhangY> i mean the installer crashed and get to the kde desktop, like choosing "try kubuntu..." directly
[02:19] <pyromax> ok, I'm no expert here, but the important part is the message during the crash ...
[02:20] <PSWZ-ZhangY> i just wanted to say the installer doesn,t stuck there, or cause a system error, maybe the live-cd knows the installer died, and step forward to the desktop~
[02:20] <PSWZ-ZhangY> thank you pyromas~
[02:21] <claydoh> PSWZ-ZhangY: yes, the cd will go directly to a desktop if the installer quits, crashes, or is cancelled
[02:22] <claydoh> but the basic steps (amd  the easiest) is to verify the md5sum, as well as trying to burn a new disk at a slower speed
[02:22] <PSWZ-ZhangY> the installer crashes with no output or message in my Situation
[02:24] <PSWZ-ZhangY> i think the cd is ok, i verified the md5, and  run the check media option after boot using it
[02:24] <arrrghhh> PSWZ-ZhangY: since you're not formatting, i'm just going to blame it on that.
[02:24] <arrrghhh> i'm pretty sure at a minimum you have to format /
[02:24] <arrrghhh> if you have /home on a different mount point, then you don't have to format that partition.
[02:25] <PSWZ-ZhangY> arrrghhh: yes i formated root
[02:25] <arrrghhh> ...you said you didn't format.
[02:25] <PSWZ-ZhangY> oh, sorry!
[02:26] <PSWZ-ZhangY> i said i didn't formatted the ext4 partition, but this partition is not the root partition
[02:26] <PSWZ-ZhangY> i wanted to mount it under /home~
[02:27] <arrrghhh> k i thought i was following you
[02:27] <arrrghhh> but now i'm not.
[02:27] <pyromax> can you install while ignoring the ext4 partition? (you can always mount it later on)
[02:28] <arrrghhh> +1
[02:28] <PSWZ-ZhangY> pyromax: yes, and i mounted later on by editing the fstab
[02:28] <PSWZ-ZhangY> pyromax: yes, and i mounted it later on by editing the fstab
[02:29] <arrrghhh> so i'm confused.  it's installed?
[02:29] <pyromax> so, what is the problem?
[02:29] <PSWZ-ZhangY> yes I have  successfully installed kubuntu
[02:30] <PSWZ-ZhangY> but ~~~~~~ i just want to report this bug
[02:30] <arrrghhh> so... i don't see a problem.
[02:30] <arrrghhh> PSWZ-ZhangY: without logs, bug reporting is kinda useless.
[02:30] <arrrghhh> i'd say your bug is not bugtracker worthy if it's working.
[02:30] <PSWZ-ZhangY> oh, i know
[02:31] <PSWZ-ZhangY> sorry to have wasted your time~
[02:31] <PSWZ-ZhangY> thank you~
[02:31] <arrrghhh> np
[02:31] <pyromax> it was entertaining
[02:31] <pyromax> up to a point ...
[02:31] <arrrghhh> meh
[02:32] <arrrghhh> i'm still pissed i don't have a shutdown or restart option.
[02:32] <arrrghhh> maddening.
[02:32] <pyromax> yeah, i had that once, but that was when I started KDE from the command line
[02:32] <arrrghhh> don't really have time to deal with it now tho.  i bumped a thread from others with the same issue, hopefully someone chimes in...
[02:32] <arrrghhh> pyromax: lol
[02:32] <arrrghhh> definitely not doing that :P
[02:33] <PSWZ-ZhangY> you can change your dm to kdm
[02:33] <pyromax> and for the life of me, I cannot remember what I did to fix it ...
[02:33] <PSWZ-ZhangY> and you will have shut down and restart
[02:34] <pyromax> yeah, it's something like that
[02:37] <kanazky> hey
[02:37] <kanazky> I am looking for some help
[02:37] <pyromax> aren't we all?
[02:37] <kanazky> haha
[02:37] <kanazky> guess so
[02:37] <kanazky> no one online helping?
[02:37] <kanazky> does kmix use pulseaudio or alsa?
[02:39] <pyromax> I have absolutely no idea
[02:40] <Todd200> Hello
[02:41] <pyromax> ehlo
[02:41]  * Todd200 has a problem 
[02:41] <Todd200> Are you knowledgeable enough to help?
[02:42] <pyromax> i'm not
[02:42] <Todd200> Or just a random user?
[02:42] <Todd200> Ah, k
[02:42] <pyromax> anyone else around?
[02:43] <pyromax> and it depends a bit on your problem, does it not?
[02:43] <Todd200> I'm getting a weird screen Insted of kubuntu on boot
[02:44] <claydoh> kanazky: kmix uses pulseaudio, or whatever the system uses  - if you removed pulse  and used alsa, i believe it will use that
[02:44] <pyromax> what? like a grub screen?
[02:45] <claydoh> kanazky: but kde's pulseaudio integration is still new, I suggest trying out pavucontrol to adjust things
[02:45] <Todd200> Like lines of static
[02:47] <pyromax> Todd200: so your display driver is f**ked?
[02:47] <Todd200> But I get a mouse that can move
[02:48] <Todd200> And windows 7 works fine
[02:48] <Todd200> Mouse on top of lines of static, it happened once to me in virtual box too
[02:48] <pyromax> yeah, well, windows 7 uses different driver than (k)ununtu, right?
[02:50] <Todd200> Probably, but then it shouldn't have issues in virtualbox
[02:50] <Todd200> ATI graphics card, 1gb video memory
[02:50] <pyromax> well, i'm not sure about that, since I have never used virtualbox
[02:51] <pyromax> the questions that spring to mind are: how does virtualbox handle graphics for different os-s
[02:52] <pyromax> and more importantly (i forgot): did it work in the first place?
[02:52] <claydoh> virtualbox uses a virtual video card, if that make sense
[02:53] <Todd200> claydoh: yeah, it emulates everything
[02:54] <pyromax> so, then the question remains: which update from kubuntu f***ed up your graphics, am I right?
[02:54] <Todd200> Nope
[02:54] <Todd200> After wubi, I couldn't ever boot into it
[02:54] <kanazky_> how do I force 5.1 playback in Kubuntu 10.10 using HDMI output ???
[02:55] <pyromax> oh, i'm sorry: I have absolutely no experience with wubi
[02:56] <pyromax> with wubi you start with windows and then try a real OS, right?
[02:56] <Todd200> Yep, it downloads the files and adds to windows boot menu
[02:56] <Todd200> No grub
[02:56] <Daskreech> pyromax: it installs inside of Windows as if it was an application
[02:56] <Todd200> Then you boot into it from the boot menu to finish the install
[02:56] <claydoh> wubi installs *buntu to a file system inside of windows, and modified the nt bootloader to boot to it
[02:57] <Daskreech> Then runs as a command that asks Windows to kill itself and hand over to linux
[02:57] <claydoh> never used it myself, havent used windows in a bout a decade at home
[02:57] <kanazky_> anyway to force 5.1 playback when outputing to hdmi?
[02:57] <Daskreech> Works nicely if you can deal with the fact that the entire filesystem is a single blob file inside a NTFS formatted filesystem
[02:58] <kanazky_> or heh is Kubuntu use pulseaudio or alsa by default?
[02:58] <pyromax> sounds like a terrible solution
[02:58] <claydoh> kanazky_: pulseaudio
[02:58] <kanazky_> ty
[02:58] <kanazky_> I dont have the Daemon.conf
[02:58] <kanazky_> file tho
[02:58] <Todd200> I'd do it the "real" way with partitions, but hp is stupid and the computer comes with 4 already
[02:58] <kanazky_> or default.pa
[02:58] <pyromax> I agree: hp is stupid
[03:00] <kanazky_> Where do I find my Default.pa file for pulse audio?
[03:00] <Todd200> Their hardware is good though,
[03:00]  * Todd200 loves his DV7 with intel i7
[03:01] <pyromax> yeah, well, their people management skills are (far) below par
[03:01] <Todd200> I agree, but they are better than Dell
[03:02] <veluxes> hi i have a terratec aureon universe 7.1 and i am using the envy24 driver for it, i used to have several outputdevices in phonon but now i only got stereo output.does anybody know how i can get my devices back?
[03:03] <Todd200> It might be the 64bit OS
[03:03] <pyromax> I have no experience with Dell, so I cannot be a judge to that, but let's stop this pointless discussion, it's not going to help anyone
[03:04] <Todd200> A 32 bit OS will still run on a 64bit system right?
[03:05] <pyromax> that depends on the OS, doesn't it?
[03:06] <Todd200> Kubuntu
[03:07] <Todd200> Join #Linux
[03:07] <Todd200> Crap
[03:07] <pyromax> what? right now? I'll have to eat some beans first...
[03:08] <Todd200> Lol. Forgot my /
[03:09] <rww> Todd200: yes, 32-bit Kubuntu will run on an x86_64 system.
[03:13] <Todd200> Thanks rww, any way to make wubi download the 32 bit one instead of 64?
[03:14] <zkriesse> It should ask you wish version
[03:15] <rww> Todd200: "Yes, either pre-download the appropriate 32 bit ISO manually and place it in the same folder as Wubi.exe or start Wubi with the "--32bit" argument." -- wubi's FAQ
[03:15] <rww> zkriesse: it asks which flavor to download, doesn't ask which architecture.
[03:16] <zkriesse> Argh
[03:16] <Todd200> Kubuntu's UI kind of reminds me of OSX
[03:16] <Todd200> rww: thanks!
[03:54] <somekool> some people think Kubuntu should have a different name
[03:54] <zkriesse> Ot
[04:05] <Daskreech> somekool: edit the issue file
[07:29] <gabriel__> Hello?
[07:29] <christopher__> hello
[07:30] <gabriel__> I got a weird problem I can't seem to fix..
[07:31] <christopher__> whats the problem?
[07:33] <gabriel__> When I first load Kubuntu, the screen before the splash screen that usually says Kubuntu with the four flashing dots is completely messed up
[07:33] <gabriel__> It says Kubuntu but not in the nice looking font it used to and the dots are ugly looking squares
[07:34] <gabriel__> and there's a bunch of text randomly scattered around the screen
[07:35] <gabriel__> then loads kubuntu perfectly fine as usual.
[07:35] <gabriel__> What can I do?
[07:39] <gabriel__> Does anyone know how to fix the Kubuntu loading screen before the splash screen?
[08:13] <sri13> hi , where can i find libclucene-core package ?
[08:45] <XamDM> how can i make a wlan-connection start bevor a user is loged on ???
[09:25] <catalin> hello
[10:03] <bajk-tragbar> hey, so is there finally a way of forcing the network manager plasmoid to do what I want?
[10:22] <valorie> what do you want it to do?
[10:22] <valorie> it doesn't cook my dinner.....
[11:41] <zy> why does rekonq recognise my side mouse button but vanilla konq does not? is there a way to map it in konq?
[11:59] <CngZ> Hello, I search a fingerprint recognition software, do you know another one than fprint ?
[12:34] <computerillitera> hi everyone
[12:36] <shadeslayer> computerillitera: hi
[12:59] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:04] <computerillitera> hi
[13:34] <principal10> hi
[13:35] <surex_> hi
[13:35] <principal10> who talk spanish
[13:35] <principal10> ?
[13:35] <angelo__> ciao a tutti
[13:36] <principal10> all have kubuntu
[13:36] <principal10> ?
[13:37] <principal10> wh know how mount domain
[13:37] <principal10> ?
[13:42] <evdvelde> hi all, who is able to burn CDRW disks now with Maverick? which tool are you using? I tried wodim, cdrskin and all kind of frontends without success (all SCSI failures in the middle of burning process)
[13:48] <principal10> hi
[13:48] <principal10> evdvelde
[13:48] <evdvelde> hi principal10 :)
[13:49] <principal10> this is ur so
[13:49] <principal10> ?
[13:49] <principal10> or machine virtual
[13:49] <evdvelde> nothing virtual about it
[13:49] <principal10> um
[13:49] <principal10> i having problems
[13:49] <principal10> xD
[13:51] <evdvelde> what is your problem?
[13:51] <principal10> i dont know how mount a domain in jubuntu
[13:51] <principal10> kubuntu
[13:54] <principal10> u know?
[14:02] <evdvelde> principal10: what kind of domain?
[14:04] <principal10> mmm
[14:05] <principal10> for administry usuary
[14:05] <principal10> and give access to domain
[14:06] <evdvelde> dont know sry
[14:07] <principal10> np
[14:07] <principal10> ty
[14:09] <principal10> im working in a virtual
[14:18] <amichair> is the ubuntu keyserver down?
[14:19] <BluesKaj> amichair, do you mean the launchpad repos?
[14:20] <principal10> repositoris
[14:20] <principal10> amichair
[14:20] <principal10> u too isntall kubuntu
[14:20] <principal10> ?
[14:20] <principal10> for cant ubntu
[14:20] <principal10> ?
[14:20] <FloodBotK2> principal10: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:21] <shadeslayer> principal10: could you please ask your question in one single line ? :)
[14:22] <amichair> BluesKaj: keyserver.ubuntu.com ... keyserver timed out
[14:22] <BluesKaj> !es | principal10
[14:22] <principal10> xD
[14:22] <principal10> ty
[14:23] <BluesKaj> amichair, where did you get that ppa , in relation to which app oe apps?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> or
[14:24] <amichair> BluesKaj: wiki.ubuntu.com/LibreOffice
[14:24] <amichair> ppa:libreoffice/ppa
[14:24] <amichair> been getting the error for a few hours now (several attempts)
[14:28] <BluesKaj> amichair, ok , some repos , especially specialty types have had a few probs online the last few days , if it doesn't clearup soon you can get help at  #documentfoundation
[14:30] <x_puma_x> hey. is there a way to get the netbook-plasma when booting kubuntu inside a virtualbox?
[14:30] <x_puma_x> ...from a live-cd
[14:32] <amichair> BluesKaj: ok, thanks
[14:32] <piquadrat> Hi! Are there any packages for KDE PIM 4.6 floating around?
[14:43] <c2tarun> how can I change the default address used by pastebinit?
[14:44] <BluesKaj>  piquadrat http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/
[14:45] <fabio_> ciao a tutti
[14:46] <fabio_> ma avete tutti linux
[14:50] <c2tarun> how can I change the default address used by pastebinit?
[14:54] <yofel> c2tarun: you can't, it's hardcoded. Best you make yourself a bash alias for pastebinig -b <url>
[14:56] <yofel> c2tarun: well, you can, by editing /usr/bin/pastebinit - it's python
[14:57] <c2tarun> yofel: I'll go for alias :) its easy
[15:09] <fabio_> chat italian
[15:14] <kyodai> how to add pon dsl-provider in autostart ?
[15:14] <kyodai> with some script or something?
[15:18] <Peace-> kyodai: kppp?
[15:20] <kyodai> need dsl connection
[15:21] <kyodai> if can happen how to make one?
[15:23] <Peace-> kyodai: dsl ?
[15:23] <kyodai> dsl connection
[15:24] <Peace-> kyodai: you have a router?
[15:25] <Peace-> or what?
[15:25] <Peace-> kyodai: i dunno man here i have the network manager
[15:25] <Peace-> and it do it
[15:25] <Peace-> does
[15:26] <kyodai> well i dont have it
[15:26] <kyodai> how to download it
[15:26] <Peace-> kyodai:  lsb_release -a
[15:26] <Peace-> into konsole
[15:27] <kyodai> Distributor ID: Ubuntu
[15:27] <kyodai> Description:    Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS
[15:27] <kyodai> Release:        10.04
[15:27] <kyodai> had gnome
[15:27] <Peace-> ...
[15:27] <Peace-> kyodai: here is for kde
[15:28] <kyodai> now i have jde
[15:28] <kyodai> kde *
[15:28] <Peace-> so kde has the network manager...
[15:28] <kyodai> i cant find it
[15:29] <Peace-> kyodai: you are blind http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/06/plasma-desktopbE1458.jpg
[15:30] <BluesKaj> kyodai, how is your compuetr connected to the internet?
 need dsl connection
[15:31] <kyodai> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSL
[15:32] <kyodai> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_Internet_access
[15:33] <BluesKaj> yes kyodai, we know what dsl connection is ,the question is , are you using a modem or a router with your dsl connection ?
[15:34] <kyodai> router
[15:35] <BluesKaj> ok is it wired /ethernet or wifi/wlan0, kyodai ?
[15:35] <kyodai> ethernet
[15:35] <kyodai> i didnt had knetworkmanager
[15:35] <kyodai> i will try to install it now
[15:40] <BluesKaj> kyodai, ok now you should have knetwork manager installed , if you have no active internet connection then you'll have to use the live-cd to install the knetworkmanager
[15:40] <kyodai> problem is
[15:40] <kyodai> that i havw ubuntu
[15:40] <kyodai> live cs
[15:40] <kyodai> cd
[15:41] <kyodai> not kubuntu
[15:41] <kyodai> i upgraded to kubuntu
[15:41] <kyodai> now i dont have the knetwork
[15:41] <kyodai> and i cant find it how to install it
[15:43] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :S
[15:44] <Peace-> kyodai: if you have a router with ethernet
[15:44] <Peace-> kyodai: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:44] <Peace-> should do the work
[15:44] <Peace-> without interface
[15:44] <FloodBotK2> Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <BluesKaj> gnome network manager will work , kyodai , or run,  sudo dhclient,  in the terminal
[16:00]  * BluesKaj wonders if he managed to connect
[16:04] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i can't understand why people that switched to kde can't do the same things they did in gnome
[16:05] <Peace-> bah
[16:07] <BluesKaj> Peace-, they can, they just don't think they can and besides gnome is having it's own problems right now that aren't related to applications , mostly graphical and unity desktop stuff
[16:08] <Peace-> BluesKaj: have you tried unity ?
[16:09] <BluesKaj> Peace-, i think the biggest problem lately with some ppl is the language barrier , making non native english speakers understand me
[16:09] <Peace-> BluesKaj: mm maybe :D
[16:09] <BluesKaj> yes, unity is ok , not my cup of tea so to speak , buggy tho , and unreliable
[16:10] <BluesKaj> ok = nice graphics etc
[16:10] <Peace-> you don't think is something like activities on kde?
[16:10] <Peace-> it is
[16:11] <Peace-> or the search and lauch plasma ?
[16:11] <BluesKaj> unity takes up the whole desktop , too many layers
[16:12] <BluesKaj> I prefer the plasma approach
[16:12] <Peace-> i hvae to test kde-mobile
[16:12] <Peace-> have
[16:15] <BluesKaj> !pastebinit
[16:21] <BluesKaj> hmm, it doesn't tell how to pastebinit lines of text
[16:22] <apparle> BluesKaj: it tells how to do it
[16:22] <timo__> Good day, can anyone help me finding out why i have no sound after upgrade to maverick?
[16:23] <apparle> timo__: start from the basic things like whether mute is set to complicated things like alsa driver is loaded
[16:24] <Thinkerer68> timo__: See item #6 <http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3099811.0>
[16:24] <apparle> why does microblogging save only 25 messages. I set the timeline size to 100 msgs
[16:24] <Thinkerer68> timo__: and let me know if you have success?
[16:25] <timo__> thanks for the hint i'll check it out.
[16:25] <Thinkerer68> I lost sound after my upgrade too  :P
[16:25] <BluesKaj> apparle, I tried the command with text : " a line of text pasted from a textfile" and I got a "can't read past the first word message
[16:27] <timo__> okay, the soundcard drivers are loaded (aplay -l shows me stuff)
[16:27] <BluesKaj> I think pastebinit is only a link that neds a filepath and a pastebinit url , apparle
[16:27] <timo__> and the channels seem not to be muted in kmix or pavucontrol, as far as i can see.
[16:28] <apparle> timo__: see if they are in alsamixer
[16:28] <BluesKaj> pastebinit won't really paste anything it just creates a link , IMO
[16:28] <apparle> timo__: or if some wrong channel is muted
[16:28] <apparle> BluesKaj: I'm trying it
[16:29] <apparle> BluesKaj: here it worked well
[16:29] <timo__> the bars are full, how can i check if it's muted (there would be an M or something, right?)
[16:29] <Thinkerer68> timo__: You got farther than me. My device is not shown by "aplay -l" even after I use "modprobe"  :(
[16:29] <BluesKaj> Thinkerer68, do you have pulseaudio installed ? if so you may need to configure it
[16:30] <BluesKaj> apparle, show me
[16:30] <Thinkerer68> BluesKaj: I have no idea actually.
[16:30] <apparle> BluesKaj: echo "loads of data" | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com gave me this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/576519/
[16:30] <BluesKaj> give me the command you used , apparle
[16:30] <apparle> I just gave you
[16:31] <apparle> echo "loads of data" | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:31] <apparle> BluesKaj: ^
[16:31] <timo__> Thinkerer68 Yeah, it just worked out of the box, except i hear nothing ;-)
[16:32] <BluesKaj> no apparle that's not what I mean ...try to pastebinit a line of text by itself , not a filepath or alink
[16:32] <Thinkerer68> I have too many things going on to troubleshoot my problem now. :(
[16:33] <apparle> BluesKaj: I don't get what you are saying. What command are you using
[16:34] <BluesKaj> where did you get the instruction toi use the echo command, I didn't see it anywhere in the manual, apparle
[16:35] <BluesKaj> this is what I mean by poorly written manuals ...they won't sight an example
[16:35] <apparle> BluesKaj: pastebinit will paste whatever data is passed via the pipe. I just used echo so that it will echo the same data
[16:35] <apparle> BluesKaj: you know the usage of | in terminal?
[16:35] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:36] <BluesKaj> I tried tha previously and it kept erroring out
[16:36]  * BluesKaj checks to see if pastebinit is even installed anymore
[16:37] <apparle> BluesKaj: so if you want to pastebinit a file then use "cat <filename> | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com"
[16:38] <apparle> why does microblogging save only 25 messages. I set the timeline size to 100 msgs
[16:40] <BluesKaj> apparle, maybe there's limit to each message size
[16:41] <timo__> cool, i could get my sound back by removing pulseaudio
[16:41] <timo__> i thought that was the default in 10.10, how come it works if i remove it?
[16:42] <apparle> timo__: but pulseaudio will always be default, so why don't you locate the problem or file a bug etc
[16:43] <BluesKaj> timo__, sound will work with pulseaudio, but the pulseaudio app itself needs to be configured to work properly , in most cases it's apita to deal with so it's just easier to remove it
[16:43] <timo__> apparle: i'll investigate further for sure, but i dont really know whats going on with pulseaudio, it should work together with alsa right?
[16:43] <apparle> timo__: it should, but as you can see it is not that simple, so lets bear it and fix it
[16:44] <BluesKaj> pulseaudio is useless to me , useful to some depending on their soundcards
[16:44] <apparle> although if someone here could shed some light on why there is pulse audio at all
[16:45] <BluesKaj> apparle, I think it's useful for dedicted pci soundcards ..to me it's just another later of useless processing that causes distortion
[16:45] <apparle> I found this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pulseaudio-diagram.svg
[16:46] <apparle> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Pulseaudio-diagram.svg
[16:46] <timo__> when i "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" it wont install pulseaudio, is that a dependency missing maybe? or isnt kubuntu-desktop the main package?
[16:49] <apparle> timo__: just install it directly
[16:51] <timo__> apparle: yep i did. sound is gone again. can you tell me how i can configure pulseadio? using pavucontrol?
[16:51] <apparle> timo__: seriously, no idea. here it works out of box
[16:55] <BluesKaj> timo__, if pulseaudio doesn't help your audio setup work , then you're probly better off without it.
[16:56] <timo__> I made it work now, i had to select the right device in pavucontrol (did not work before i reinstalled it)
[17:30] <markit> hi, updated 10.10 to kde 4.6.1, now with effects enabled if I put the cursor on the upper left of the screen I see all the windows of open programs (nice, like before), but can't select any, nor return to previous situation, I have to reboot
[17:30] <markit> is it a known regression easy to fix?
[17:31] <Alonea> ok, i just installed dropbox and I got an error that says it wants me to manually set user_xattr in /etc/fstab. What do I put in that file? I don't understand.
[17:32] <DarthFrog> Alonea: What is the exact errror it gives you?
[17:32] <markit> Alonea: is a flag, google for it, you have to add in the line related to the partition contains your data
[17:32] <Alonea> markit: I googled a minute ago and got nothing
[17:32] <markit> impossible
[17:33] <Alonea> DarthFrog: "Unable to set user_attr in /etc/fstab. Please do so manually."
[17:33] <Alonea> markit: I typed in Unable to set user_attr in /etc/fstab and got nothing relevant I saw
[17:34] <markit> ok, google for "fstab user_xattr" (Xattr, not attr)
[17:34] <Alonea> DarthFrog: sorry that user_xattr
[17:34] <markit> you have to manually edit fstab
[17:35] <Alonea> markit: yeah, I got it open, but didn't know what to put, let me regoogle
[17:35] <markit> create a copy before you do, and be prepared to boot from a live cd to restore the copy if you do something wrong
[17:35] <markit> Alonea: pastebin me the content, I can suggest you where put it
[17:37] <markit> btw, no one with my problem in 4.6.1?
[17:38] <markit> I mean, does it work for you?
[17:38] <Alonea> markit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/576541/
[17:39] <markit> UUID=6a7caf6e-1786-4981-9c34-b20332e456b0 /home           ext4    defaults,user_xattr        0       2
[17:41] <Alonea> markit: thanks! do I need to restart a service now or is it ok?
[17:42] <markit> you should remount the fs, or better reboot
[17:42] <markit> Alonea: should be ok, but in case you be prepared to boot from a live cd and return to previous config
[17:43] <Alonea> markit: okies. not too worried. will reboot and see if all is well
[17:43] <DarthFrog> No need to reboot, just issue the "sudo mount -a" command.
[17:43] <markit> DarthFrog: I've heard reboot is safer
[17:44] <DarthFrog> Go ahead. :-)
[17:44] <markit> lol
[17:44] <markit> another chapter in "IT myths" saga
[17:45] <markit> DarthFrog: do you have kde 4.6.1 by chance with effects enabled?
[17:45] <DarthFrog> or "sudo mount -n -o remount,user_xattr <device name> <mount point>"
[17:45] <DarthFrog> I believe so.
[17:46] <markit> if you put the cursor in the upper left you have the "OS-X like" effect of all the open windows miniaturized and you can choose with one?
[17:46] <bajk-tragbar> is there a way of hiding those crash messages? My Kwin crashes like every 2 minutes and I DONT CARE about it, it just restarts and everythings fine. So, the error dialog is more annoying than the crash itself
[17:46] <markit> to me makes impossible to choose one and I have to reboot
[17:46] <bajk-tragbar> ah, got it
[17:46] <Alonea> markit: all good
[17:47] <DarthFrog> I get my desktop with windows representing each open app.  I click in that window and it switches to the app.
[17:47] <markit> :) happy to have do no damage today ;P
[17:47] <markit> DarthFrog: mmm it worked this way until I updated
[17:47] <markit> now it's sort of "frozen", wondered if was a regression
[17:48] <markit> DarthFrog: do you have kubuntu 10.10?
[17:48] <DarthFrog> markit:  All I can say is, it works for me.
[17:48] <DarthFrog> Yes
[17:48] <markit> DarthFrog: thanks a lot
[17:52] <Alonea> markit: ok, one more question. it says in this guide I might have to do a symlink to the Autostart folder. Do I link my Dropbox folder or do I link the daemon? daemon makes more sense to me but guide seems to say dropbox folder...
[18:00] <gmargo> In Maverick, why is the qt-sdk package only available in the i386 distribution?  Why was it removed from amd64?  This is somehow related to bug 618075 I think.
[18:04] <Alonea> ok, I think I got symlinking backwards...I am trying to get a daemon to autostart. so ln /home/alonea/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd /home/alonea/.kde/Autostart/dropboxd?? or is it switched?
[18:05] <yofel> Alonea: it's 'ln -s ...' for symlinking, just ln will create a hard link
[18:05] <yofel> the order is right though I think
[18:05] <Alonea> yofel: ok. will try adding -s this time. just don't want to mess up the daemon itself
[18:07] <yofel> Alonea: an alternative would be:
[18:07] <yofel> cd /home/alonea/.kde/Autostart/
[18:07] <yofel> ln -s /home/alonea/.dropbox-dist/dropboxd
[18:07] <yofel> that will do the right thing in any case
[18:07] <Alonea> yofel: there we go! now it works. bah. just havent made a symlink in...3? 4? years so I got confused. thanks
[18:07] <FloodBotK2> yofel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <yofel> heh
[18:07]  * Alonea tells the FloodBotK2 to stick it
[18:11] <yofel> gmargo: something went foobar there - it's fixed in natty
[18:13] <gmargo> yofel: thanks.  any expectation that it will be fixed for maverick?
[18:14] <markit> Alonea: sorry, was on the phone... I've no idea, folder makes more sense to me
[18:14] <markit> Alonea: daemons have their own run machanism, nothing to symlink probably
[18:15] <yofel> for dropbox it makes sense to  symlink the daemon, as it simply needs to be run
[18:15] <Alonea> markit: I think its the daemon. it wont start on startup. need to reboot again to check, but symlinking the folder didn't work
[18:15] <Alonea> markit: the symlink I made does work, I just need to see if it autostarts now
[18:15] <markit> Alonea: ok :) probably is something you did not got from kubuntu repositories
[18:16] <Alonea> markit: there isn't a kde version of dropbox. if you do the official you gotta use Nautilus
[18:16] <markit> I see... personally I try to avoid the "cloud stuff" as much as I can, don't trust anyone except FOSS people
[18:16] <Alonea> markit: but there is another closed source dropbox client that works very well in kde and will use dolphin
[18:17] <markit> proprietary programs = non sense, I use GNU/Linux for freedom, if you install just one program you are doomed
[18:17] <Alonea> markit: its wonderful for sharing files with family and friends. so much easier than trying to email bunches of files and worry about email attachment limits
[18:17] <markit> (who can tell what is doing on your system? no one)
[18:18] <yofel> gmargo: that will need an SRU - and since nobody bothered to file a bug that needs to be done first
[18:18] <markit> Alonea: I don't trade my freedom for some "nice stuff", hope FOSS will provide something similar in the future
[18:18] <BluesKaj> !kfilebox
[18:18] <yofel> well, there's ubuntuone too, which integrates as bad as dropbox in kubuntu
[18:18] <yofel> Alonea: voted on https://www.dropbox.com/votebox/175/dolphin-kde4-qt4-gui-client ?
[18:18] <gmargo> yofel: I was thinking of doing just that, but wanted to ask here first.
[18:19] <BluesKaj> !info-kfilebox
[18:19] <Alonea> markit: and it works on my android phone so very happy with it. and I have to disagree with you, but to each their own. Dropbox makes me happy, is easy to use, and is easy for my family to use
[18:19] <yofel> gmargo: if you file one I'll look at it
[18:20] <BluesKaj> strange , kfilebox is the new dropbox file server
[18:20] <markit> Alonea: if you don't value freedom, it's fine, it's your problem :)
[18:20] <BluesKaj> for kde
[18:21] <BluesKaj> markit, we're not here to debate aplications , default or not , we're here to support kubuntu users
[18:21] <Alonea> markit: respect my opinion. I disagree with yours, but I am not saying you are wrong to have it. Don't tell me mine is.
[18:21] <markit> Alonea: I respect your opinion, I expressed mine, what's wrong?
[18:21] <markit> BluesKaj: is dropbox a kde app?
[18:22] <BluesKaj> markit, kfilebox is the new dropbox for kde
[18:22]  * yofel tries to build kfilebox on 4.6
[18:23] <BluesKaj> dropbox is a multiplatform app
[18:23] <yofel> eeek, qmake
[18:23] <Alonea> markit: you are saying its "my problem" that I supposedly don't value freedom. That isn't remotely respectful. dropping this now.
[18:23] <markit> BluesKaj: ok, I'm not against kfilebox, just peopole have to be aware about the madness of having their data in computers they don't control, can't trust, and usually are using without carefully read usage conditions
[18:24] <BluesKaj> kfilebox is a frontend app \
[18:24] <markit> Alonea: ok, you value your freedom and use dropbox. I see contraddiction here, you don't. simple
[18:25] <yofel> markit: aknowledged, that should still not prevent them from using the service. That you don't put your bank account data there should be obvious
[18:25] <BluesKaj> markit, I don't use dropbox for sensitive personal data , I just use it to share bfiles with my family members.
[18:25] <rtdos> is there any bbs software available for linux? i'd like to start a bbs on my kubuntu machine using either telnet AND/OR ssh.
[18:25] <BluesKaj> ebfiles = files
[18:26] <BluesKaj> rtdos, bbs ?
[18:26] <markit> BluesKaj: the important point is awareness, and put things in right value/position
[18:26] <yofel> bulletin bord service I guess
[18:26] <rtdos> yea, blueskaj - a bbs :)
[18:26] <rtdos> don't tell me i'm dating myself LOL
[18:27] <BluesKaj> markit, plsss not that silly raise awareness argument again ...
[18:27] <Alonea> ya know, I don't feel welcome here anymore. think I will come back later...much later.
[18:27] <BluesKaj> good luck Alonea ...sorry we couldn't hold your hand any longer
[18:27] <BluesKaj> :)
[18:27]  * yofel pats Alonea on the shoulder - come back soon :)
[18:28] <Alonea> BluesKaj: things are working pretty good. just internal mic doesn't work
[18:29] <esiri> hi ,first need   say to accept my apologize for bad english, i am use kubuntu 10.10 and i did install vdr and i use with xineliboutput-sxfe ts working but have a issue , i am cant  display full-screen, i did change 4:3 16:9 and anarompich mod but allways in display have black bar left  and right or top and down,, how to i can correct that.
[18:29] <esiri> http://www.image-share.com/ijpg-543-259.html
[18:39] <delta_> list
[18:44] <Peace-> esiri: what's your country ?
[18:45] <esiri> Peace Turkei
[18:45] <Peace-> !turk | esiri
[18:45] <Peace-> !turkey | esiri
[18:45] <esiri> Peace yes i am from turkei
[18:46] <esiri> Peace thanks :) i will ask there but i feeling u shut down me here :)
[18:46] <esiri> ok
[18:47] <Peace-> esiri: nope you can ask here too but i thought you  would ask better on your language
[18:49] <esiri> Peace  i am understood you  no worries thanks i will ask to there :)
[18:57] <vanguard> how can I setup Konversation so that it automatically tells nickserv my password?
[18:58] <Peace-> vanguard: easy
[18:59] <esiri> good night
[18:59] <Peace-> vanguard: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/03/06/plasma-desktopoY1458.jpg
[19:00] <vanguard> Peace-: thx, I entered irc.freenode.net in there
[19:00] <Peace-> vanguard: edit edit :)
[19:00] <vanguard> Peace-: I'll try it out in a couple minutes
[19:08] <veovis_muaddib> My trash has "reached its maximum size" although it only contains empty directories.  I cannot add anything new, nor can I delete any directories in the trash.  There are no non-latin characters in the filenames. (I've had problems like that before...)  When I try to delete the top level directory, Dolphin says could not delete file [long path], but if i delete the bottom level directories, I get "Access denies to trash:[long path]
[19:09] <veovis_muaddib> *Access denied, of course
[19:09] <vanguard> press F4 to open the console in that folder
[19:09] <veovis_muaddib> vanguard: When I do that my path is ~
[19:09] <veovis_muaddib> *PWD
[19:09] <vanguard> type sudo rm -rfi *
[19:10] <veovis_muaddib> No thanks, see above :P
[19:10] <vanguard> gimme a sec
[19:10] <vanguard> well, with the -i option it will ask before deleting anything
[19:12] <vanguard> hmm, I have no idea where that trash: folder is :-/
[19:12] <veovis_muaddib> vanguard: Yeah, I was looking for .Trashes, but I remembered that that is on OS X...
[19:13] <vanguard> sudo rm -rfi ~/.local/share/Trash/files/*
[19:13] <veovis_muaddib> Ah, thank you, let me see
[19:14] <veovis_muaddib> vanguard: Thank you, I was looking all over for that....
[19:15] <veovis_muaddib> It's cleared out
[19:15] <vanguard> veovis_muaddib: google(kde trash folder) lead me to the right folder :)
[19:15] <veovis_muaddib> Yeah, I was opening the browser just as you responded :P
[20:09] <hutch> Hi I'm  having trouble with desktop/folder view in kde 4.61. It leaves a copy of files on the physical desktop and any apps I place on the desktop don't show up in the folder view
[20:11] <dave> Hi everyone
[20:11] <hutch> Hi
[20:12] <Guest45458> I was wondering if someone could help me, i'm trying to create a bootable cd which opens up a certain application (like the ophcrack live cd, it's similar)
[20:13] <Guest45458> or like these game cd's
[20:14] <apparle> Guest45458: you mean you want only that application to start or a whole desktop and that application started in that desktop
[20:14] <Guest45458> you know what i mean? :-)
[20:14] <DarthFrog> Guest45458:  You can autorun apps on boot by launching them from /etc/rc.local.
[20:14] <Guest45458> yeah that's what I mean, I don't mind the desktop being loaded, but it would be faster if the application ran by itself
[20:15] <Guest45458> but i can't find any documentation
[20:15] <Guest45458> ooh really? thanks!! but how to i put that program in a live-cd? (of kubuntu)
[20:18] <DarthFrog> Guest45458:  You'd have to build your own live cd.
[20:18] <apparle> Guest45458: see ubuntu minimal, take that customize it to run only your app. you will have to take care of lot of things and read a lot of stuff
[20:18] <apparle> !minimal
[20:18] <apparle> !custom
[20:19] <apparle> Guys, I want to do some benchmarking of graphics. are there any tools
[20:19] <Guest45458> Yes I know, but the documentation I found regarding live-cd creation doesn't really solve my problem, It's all about "Easy to install (for when you want to install that cd a lot) and custom settings" but I only want a live cd with the program running :(
[20:20] <DarthFrog> Guest45458: You have some research work ahead of you. :-)
[20:20] <Guest45458> I'm checking your link now
[20:20] <Guest45458> yes i know :)
[20:20] <Guest45458> I love the support though!
[20:21] <apparle> Guest45458: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:22] <Guest45458> thanks!! checking it out now
[20:22] <apparle> anyone can help me with benchmarking?
[20:22] <Guest45458> thanks apparle!! you helped me out a lot!!!!
[20:23] <Guest45458> that's the sort of thing i was looking for! , one question though, can i create a live cd with the kubuntu OS i already have or do i really need to install a clean version? (it's for personal use only)
[20:24] <apparle_> !benchmark
[20:27] <Guest45458> apparle I found a video which may help you out, I don't know if you find it useful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ukhHtgq5hE
[20:30] <apparle_> Guest45458: glxgears is not exactly benchmarking it is very old
[20:31] <hutch> Hi was my question about the desktop and folder view problem I'm having with kde 4.61 clear. Or should I try to explain it differently?
[20:31] <Guest45458> I'm sorry :(
[20:31] <apparle_> anyone here who is experienced with phoronix test suite and could tell me how to use it
[20:32] <apparle_> !phoronix
[20:33] <Guest45458> apparle, i think this is very helpful: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=pts_20_details&num=1
[20:33] <hutch> I've googled and searched kde support w/o any luck yet
[20:34] <Guest45458> hutch, could you explain your problem more clearly?
[20:35] <apparle_> hutch: I missed your question, tell it again
[20:37] <Guest45458> apparle, did you like the new site i gave you?
[20:37] <hutch> Guest45458 I'll try. I wanted to place some of the applications such as Amarok in the folder view. so I added it to the desktop but the folder view said it was empty even though it was set to show desktop
[20:39] <Guest45458> that's weird, make sure there are no dots "." in front of the name (which makes the file invisible), are you using launchers btw?
[20:40] <Guest45458> @hutch ?
[20:40] <hutch> I also saved a OOo short doc in documents folder and made a copy for the desktop folder with foderview set to show home folder. When I opened the desktop folder in folder view this time the copied file was in the folder but a 2nd copy was on the actual desktop
[20:41] <Guest45458> I think you lost me :s
[20:41] <hutch> yes these were launchers Guest45458
[20:44] <hutch> Sorry Guest45458 If I put a launcher in the folderview a 2nd version went on the desktop. I thought anything on the desktop went into the folder view when set to desktop
[20:45] <hutch> But maybe not launchers?
[20:57] <tort> :)
[21:38] <nealon2005__> Whats up guys?
[21:38] <nealon2005__> I was wondering about Kubuntu Mobile
[21:38] <nealon2005__> On a tablet
[21:42] <shadeslayer> nealon2005__: it's possible
[21:42] <shadeslayer> nealon2005__: infact apachelogger recently booted it on his Arch OS tablet
[21:44] <nealon2005__> does the touchscreen work
[21:45] <nealon2005__> in DLing the iso, but I thought I would stop in this IRC to see if you guys had some ideas
[21:48] <shadeslayer> nealon2005__: yes
[21:48] <Anuthalak> hello
[21:48] <shadeslayer> but he had to meddle with the kernel
[21:48] <shadeslayer> and what not
[21:48] <Anuthalak> is this the official kubuntu channel?
[21:48] <shadeslayer> Anuthalak: yes
[21:48] <Anuthalak> Is kubuntu implementing the kde plasma desktop?
[21:49] <shadeslayer> Anuthalak: you mean ship the plasma desktop, yes
[21:50] <shadeslayer> Plasma Desktop is developed by Upstream KDE
[21:50] <Anuthalak> I mean if kubuntu use plasma desktop
[21:50] <Anuthalak> some kde distros dont
[21:50] <shadeslayer> Kubuntu Ships both Plasma Desktop and Plasma Netbook
[21:50] <shadeslayer> Anuthalak: can you point me to some of them?
[21:50] <Anuthalak> ehm I dont know
[21:50] <shadeslayer> because nearly everyone ships plasma desktop now
[21:50] <Anuthalak> I think not all distros use it
[21:50] <Anuthalak> anyway
[21:51] <Anuthalak> I want a kde distro
[21:51] <shadeslayer> okay
[21:51] <Anuthalak> I've tried opensuse but its too hard for new users
[21:51] <shadeslayer> Anuthalak: Kubuntu is one of them
[21:51] <Anuthalak> So i'm between kubuntu and mandriva
[21:52] <Anuthalak> Is kubuntu available in the same languages as ubuntu?
[21:53] <nealon2005__> Jolicloud was working ok, and ubuntu netbook ed didnt really work that well
[22:00] <_gunni_> got a problem. Akonadi does not start, and so kmail does not work properly. I had a similar problem some time ago, but dont find how to fix it. Error message is as follow http://paste.ubuntu.com/576597/
[22:03] <shadeslayer> Anuthalak: yes
[22:03] <shadeslayer> but we have our own lang packs
[22:04] <shadeslayer> those follow upstream KDE
[22:04] <nealon2005__> Looks like I have to go with Meego
[22:04] <nealon2005__> I will try kubuntu mobile though
[22:06] <shadeslayer> nealon2005__: i'm pretty sure you'll have to compile kernels with meego too
[22:06] <yofel> _gunni_: the only times I saw that error was when apparmor was messing with mysql, but the paths look right for you. Could you run 'sudo apparmor stop' and see akonadictl start works then?
[22:06] <yofel> _gunni_: also: what release?
[22:06] <_gunni_> Just upgraded to natty
[22:06] <arrrghhh> _gunni_: that's not stable, kubuntu+1
[22:07] <arrrghhh> !natty
[22:07] <yofel> yeah, let's move there (#ubuntu+1 acutally)
[22:07] <arrrghhh> er
[22:07] <arrrghhh> sorry :P
[22:07] <yofel> arrrghhh: np, kubuntu+1 redirects there
[22:07] <arrrghhh> nice, thx.
[22:08] <_gunni_> I had the same problem on stable some time ago so i thought id ask here first
[22:08] <_gunni_> I found a solution back then, but did not bookmark it :(
[22:08] <arrrghhh> i'd like to know how to get a shutdown and restart option from the 'leave' tab on the app launcher...
[22:08] <yofel> well, there was a change in natty to the mysql handling for akonadi in apparmor, so might be an effect of that
[22:09] <_gunni_> Ill ask in #ubuntu+1 then
[22:09] <arrrghhh> it seems if i install regular ubuntu, then install kubuntu-desktop it breaks this - as I did that on two machines, and both only have sleep and hiberate.
[22:09] <VoraGines> hi guys
[22:11] <VoraGines> I am new to kubuntu. I have installed 10.10 and i am having a hard time installing firefox plugins. Could you recomend a web for instructions on installing adobe reader and java?
[22:11] <VoraGines> thank you
[22:12] <yofel> VoraGines: I think installing kubuntu-restricted-extras (or was it ubuntu-... ?) should take care of that for you
[22:12] <arrrghhh> VoraGines: adobe reader isn't necessary, unless you're filling out forms.  java can be installed thru kubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:13] <VoraGines> sometimes i need to read papers which are on pdf
[22:13] <jackspike> is it possible to have a camera attached to my pc that is controled by a software that auto starts on boot and starts recording the video of my employes on the harddisk and i can also see that video "live" by giving a user name and password. ?
[22:13] <VoraGines> it is nice to read the paper directly...
[22:13] <arrrghhh> VoraGines: yes, kubuntu comes with a pdf viewer
[22:13] <yofel> VoraGines: kubuntu has okular for PDFs
[22:13] <VoraGines> ok, guys
[22:13] <VoraGines> thank for the info
[22:14] <arrrghhh> VoraGines: np.  be warned, if you do need to fill out forms, go to the adobe site to get the official adobe reader installed.  that's the only reason you'd need the official adobe app tho ;)
[22:14] <VoraGines> ok arrrghhh
[22:14] <VoraGines> thanks
[22:15] <arrrghhh> np
[22:15] <arrrghhh> ugh, my system is so borked now.  what is the recommended method to installing kubuntu?  i usually install ubuntu first, then install kubuntu-desktop metapackage... is this wrong?
[22:16] <yofel> that *should* work, and I did that in the past too - what's the problem?
[22:16] <yofel> the only tested way is installing from a kubuntu disk though
[22:16] <arrrghhh> well, for one the no shutdown/restart buttons
[22:16] <arrrghhh> and now on my htpc, it doesn't let me install the kubuntu-desktop package.
[22:17] <yofel> arrrghhh: ubuntu version and kde version?
[22:17] <arrrghhh> i had it installed, and decided to mess with the backport of 4.6, and i think i didn't blast all of it out...
[22:17] <arrrghhh> ubuntu is 10.10, and kde... shouldn't be installed at all anymore, but i'm thinking i missed something.
[22:17] <arrrghhh> i just want to go back to kubuntu-desktop 'stable' at this point.
[22:18] <shadeslayer> ah
[22:18] <shadeslayer> i know
[22:18] <shadeslayer> arrrghhh: is the login manager GDM?
[22:18] <shadeslayer> or KDM
[22:18] <arrrghhh> it's GDM now
[22:19] <shadeslayer> arrrghhh: that's the issue
[22:19] <arrrghhh> KDM should be gone (from the htpc)
[22:19] <arrrghhh> for no shutdown/restart buttons?
[22:19] <shadeslayer> GDM and KDE are incompatible if you want shutdown/restart buttons
[22:19] <arrrghhh> i was thinking about trying that.
[22:19] <arrrghhh> ok.
[22:19] <arrrghhh> so that fixes that issue, thanks shadeslayer
[22:19] <arrrghhh> what about trying to get kubuntu-desktop back on my htpc?
[22:19] <shadeslayer> idk why GDM and KDM don't use a common protocol
[22:19] <shadeslayer> and iirc they're working on it
[22:19] <arrrghhh> it won't let me install the kubuntu-desktop package
[22:20] <shadeslayer> arrrghhh: what's the output?
[22:20] <SupeR_NovA> help
[22:20] <SupeR_NovA> Overwrite existing file?'/tmp/kde-nebula///air.tar.gz'
[22:20] <SupeR_NovA> ?
[22:20] <arrrghhh> SupeR_NovA: need some context
[22:21] <arrrghhh> shadeslayer: lots of broken packages... let me pastebin.
[22:21] <shadeslayer> please do
[22:22] <arrrghhh> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/576666
[22:23] <arrrghhh> i tried installing those packages manually, and got an even greater list of crap that's not installed or going to be installed...
[22:23] <shadeslayer> ouch
[22:24] <shadeslayer> arrrghhh: apt-cache policy kubuntu-desktop and apt-cache policy kdelibs5
[22:25] <arrrghhh> ok
[22:25] <arrrghhh> ah crap.
[22:25] <arrrghhh> says they're both installed?
[22:26] <arrrghhh> let me autoremove, 1 sec.
[22:26] <shadeslayer> ofcourse they're installed, but what's the version :)
[22:27] <arrrghhh> they shouldn't be installed!  let me do some cleaning ;)
[22:27] <arrrghhh> that might be the fix, let me try to install kubuntu-desktop again.
[22:28] <arrrghhh> crap.  same error, but now kdelibs5 and kubuntu-desktop are not installed...
[22:29] <arrrghhh> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/576668
[22:30] <shadeslayer> uh
[22:30] <shadeslayer> arrrghhh: did you add the PPA?
[22:30] <arrrghhh> i had a ppa added for 4.6.1 or whatever.
[22:30] <arrrghhh> but i've since removed it
[22:31] <shadeslayer> try adding it back and check then
[22:37] <arrrghhh> shadeslayer: it used to show 4.6.1
[22:38] <arrrghhh> i don't want 4.6.1, it blew up kde.  i wanted to play with it, but like i said it blew up... so i'll just stick to 4.5.1 for now, i just want it to work...
[22:38] <shadeslayer> hmm
[22:38] <shadeslayer> arrrghhh: how did you purge KDE ?
[22:38] <shadeslayer> 4.6.1 i mean
[22:39] <arrrghhh> shadeslayer: well i tried a simple apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop
[22:39] <arrrghhh> ofc that doesn't work as it should...
[22:39] <shadeslayer> :D
[22:39] <arrrghhh> i keep forgetting to use aptitude, especially since it's gone basically.
[22:40] <shadeslayer> you need sudo ppa-purge
[22:40] <arrrghhh> so i used that psycocats site to go back to "pure gnome"
[22:40] <arrrghhh> Oo
[22:40] <shadeslayer> oh my oh my
[22:40] <arrrghhh> ok
[22:40] <arrrghhh> lol
[22:40] <shadeslayer> that command is outdated i think
[22:40] <arrrghhh> bad idea?  no, it's valid for 10.10 (site says)
[22:40] <arrrghhh> might not apply to 4.6.1 tho :/
[22:40] <shadeslayer> ah
[22:40] <shadeslayer> yeah
[22:40] <shadeslayer> there were some library transitios
[22:41] <shadeslayer> *transitions
[22:49] <arrrghhh> shadeslayer: so can i fix this mess...?
[22:50] <arrrghhh> i figured purging everything would fix it so i could go back to regular kubuntu-desktop
[22:50] <shadeslayer> arrrghhh: yes, but you will need to add the 4.6.1 PPA
[22:50] <shadeslayer> well obviously something is stuck :P
[22:50] <arrrghhh> oh so add the ppa and do that ppa-purge command?
[22:50] <shadeslayer> no, add the ppa and install kubuntu-desktop
[22:50] <arrrghhh> Oo?
[22:52] <shadeslayer> arrrghhh: yeah ...
[22:55] <arrrghhh> shadeslayer: i guess i'm concerned about what version it's installing, but it seems to be working
[22:55] <arrrghhh> ~300mb to download and install...
[22:55] <FloridaGuy> how do i get wintv to work under linux
[22:55] <arrrghhh> FloridaGuy: the card?
[22:55] <shadeslayer> arrrghhh: yeah ... i'd suggest : rm -rf ~/.kde so that you can start fresh
[22:56] <shadeslayer> in case you don't have any important settings in there
[22:56] <arrrghhh> shadeslayer: after it's done installing?
[22:56] <shadeslayer> yes
[22:56] <shadeslayer> it deletes all your KDE settings
[22:56] <arrrghhh> indeed.  thanks.
[22:57] <FloridaGuy> arrrghhh: Hauppauge WinTV-PVR-150
[22:58] <arrrghhh> FloridaGuy: and?  you want it to work with mythtv or what?
[22:59] <FloridaGuy> tvtime or something...to use as bed room tv
[22:59] <arrrghhh> lmgtfy
[23:00] <arrrghhh> looks like the card has linux support based on this site: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge
[23:00] <arrrghhh> FloridaGuy: as i don't have the card, what's the issue?
[23:00] <rork> shadeslayer, arrrghhh: that command besides deleting all your KDE settings might also remove personal data like contacts or email
[23:00] <arrrghhh> rork: no worries.
[23:01] <arrrghhh> i don't store any of that on kde, thanks ;)
[23:01] <FloridaGuy> just cant get it working under linux
[23:01] <shadeslayer> rork: not exactly .. some of the stuff is stored in .cache/ as well
[23:01] <arrrghhh> FloridaGuy: that's vague.  what have you tried?
[23:01] <FloridaGuy> ill check out that site
[23:01] <arrrghhh> FloridaGuy: don't bother, that's just showing there is linux support.
[23:02] <arrrghhh> FloridaGuy: see this how-to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1634445
[23:02] <arrrghhh> fyi, i just googled the name of your card comma ubuntu.
[23:04] <brambleclaw> hi i'm new to kubuntu and i know very little about what i'm doing. i have 10.10 and i wanted to know if i could get java for it
[23:04] <arrrghhh> brambleclaw: install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[23:05] <arrrghhh> it'll come with all sorts of goodies that can't be included in the base install for various reasons.
[23:05] <shadeslayer> !packages | brambleclaw
[23:05] <brambleclaw> ok how do i do that
[23:05] <brambleclaw> ?
[23:05] <brambleclaw> ok :) thanks
[23:05] <shadeslayer> brambleclaw: software is available as packages, you don't go to sites and install stuff :D
[23:06] <shadeslayer> that way if a upgrade is available, it updates your whole system
[23:06] <shadeslayer> and you don't have to go to the site to fetch updates
[23:06] <brambleclaw> cool
[23:06] <shadeslayer> brambleclaw: use kpackagekit to install packages
[23:07] <shadeslayer> like : kubuntu-restricted-extras that arrrghhh mentioned
[23:07] <brambleclaw> ok how do i do that?
[23:07] <shadeslayer> brambleclaw: press Alt+F2
[23:07] <shadeslayer> and type kpackagekit
[23:07] <brambleclaw> ok
[23:08] <brambleclaw> ok done
[23:08] <shadeslayer> brambleclaw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[23:09] <shadeslayer> a *very* good help page
[23:09] <brambleclaw> ok thanks :)
[23:09] <arrrghhh> brambleclaw: you can also launch it from the "K" menu.  i've added it as a favorite, it's under applications -> system -> software management.
[23:10] <shadeslayer> ngiht all
[23:10] <arrrghhh> g'nite
[23:10] <shadeslayer> *night
[23:10] <brambleclaw> seeya!
[23:10] <brambleclaw> thanks for all the help