[00:11] <bwright> Hello.
[02:30] <xAndromeda> kinda wierd but i just noticed that my rightclick menues are really slow at opening sub menues
[02:31] <xAndromeda> actually jsut dropdown menues with submenues in general
[02:31] <xAndromeda> like i have to wait 2-5 seconds for it to load then its snappy again
[03:20] <rainstake> Tried to reinstall caine-from-deb with sudo apt-get install -f, but I am given a message that says 'caine-from-deb_0.1.6a_i386.deb', anyone know the fix?
[03:21] <rainstake> I mean, I get the message that 'could not open 'caine-from-deb_0.1.6a_i386.deb', anyone know the fix?
[03:55]  * jade_qq a
[03:56] <jade_qq> hi,all,i have a problem.i can open a website begin https,but can't http,how can i do ?thanks
[03:56] <zkriesse> jade_qq: Sounds like an issue with the site itself
[03:57] <jade_qq> i can open https://gmail,but can't http://google
[03:57] <zkriesse> hmm
[03:58] <zkriesse> What browser are you using
[03:58] <jade_qq> chrome
[03:58] <jade_qq> i usr wget,it echo no route to host,but i can ping
[03:59] <jade_qq> inlu@RD-AAA:/etc$ wget www.google.com
[03:59] <jade_qq> --2011-03-06 11:58:46--  http://www.google.com/
[03:59] <jade_qq> Resolving www.google.com... 66.249.89.104
[03:59] <jade_qq> Connecting to www.google.com|66.249.89.104|:80... failed: No route to host.
[03:59] <jade_qq> qinlu@RD-AAA:/etc$
[04:01] <jade_qq> what happened?
[04:10] <jade_qq> help~~~
[05:27] <bringit645> what's the best way to start coding in ubuntu?
[06:32] <rainstake> any one know how to solve the following error message: "package in incosistent state"
[06:32] <rainstake> I was trying to uninstall caine-from-deb
[07:26] <ray_> I know that Hotmail is microsoft but why doesn't hotmail usually display pictures using Firefox with Ubuntu?
[07:26] <ray_> You might say to use gmail
[07:26] <ray_> well I have a gmail account
[07:26] <ray_> it's just not with my family
[07:27] <ray_> Well, it doesn't matter
[07:27] <ray_> see ya
[08:19] <albert_> hi need some help here. has anyone install ubuntu into acer 4738z?
[08:23] <albert_> i can't continue installation because unavailable driver
[08:23] <albert_> like "intel tco watchdog timer driver"
[08:24] <bioterror> hmmm
[08:25] <albert_> and "input driver event debug module"
[08:26] <albert_> and "broadcomsta wireless driver"
[08:26] <albert_> and "pc speaker beeper driver"
[08:26] <bioterror> albert_, you dont get into a desktop+
[08:26] <bioterror> it doesnt boot?
[08:27] <albert_> sorry i dont get you
[08:27] <bioterror> do you get into "desktop" and you can click the installer
[08:27] <bioterror> or does it hang during the "boot up sequence"
[08:28] <albert_> now i am in the desktop with two icon on the left top conner
[08:28] <bioterror> yes
[08:28] <albert_> one of which is the install unbuntu 20.20
[08:29] <albert_> sorry 10.10
[08:36] <albert_> nothing happen when i click the icon
[08:38] <bioterror> albert_, can you boot and check the integrity of the disc
[08:38] <bioterror> "Check disc for defects"
[08:39] <albert_> do u mean the disc i installing from
[08:40] <bioterror> yes
[08:41] <albert_> i am installing from a thumbdrive
[08:41] <bioterror> okay
[08:41] <bioterror> usb
[08:41] <albert_> ok let me try frist
[08:41] <bioterror> you could check the md5checksum of the .iso file
[08:50] <Bipul`> bioterror,  i need a help
[08:50] <bioterror> what
[08:52] <bioterror> Bipul`, what's your problem
[08:53] <Bipul`> can i pm you bioterror
[08:58] <albert_> bioterror- i've just did a new boot disk using ubuntu for netbook but still the same.
[08:59] <albert_> currently i am downloading a new iso of the ubuntu desktop
[08:59] <bioterror> can you check the md5sum of it?
[09:00] <bioterror> to be sure that the iso file is okay
[09:00] <albert_> sorry i do not know how to do that
[09:06] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[09:06] <albert_> thanks
[09:10] <albert_> dir
[09:25] <albert_> bioterror- thanks for all the help. but things are still the same. i have to logoff now
[09:25] <albert_> again thanks
[09:26] <albert_> i will come back again later
[09:26] <albert_> bye
[09:54] <kristian-aalborg> hi all
[09:54] <kristian-aalborg> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1701138 <--- does my pic show?
[09:56] <ikt> heya kristian-aalborg :)
[09:56] <kristian-aalborg> hey ikt
[09:57] <ikt> I can't see any picture :s
[09:57] <ikt> you are talking about your forum avatar?
[09:57] <MrChrisDruif> kristian-aalborg: if you're talking about your avatar....it doesn't show ;)
[09:58] <kristian-aalborg> dammit
[10:05] <kristian-aalborg> ah, nm... I got it
[10:07]  * kristian-aalborg is beautiful
[10:08]  * MrChrisDruif thinks no-one should brag <_<"
[10:08] <kristian-aalborg> I take that as a "yes, he is" :P
[10:09] <MrChrisDruif> I would take it as "Meh, could be worse"
[10:09] <MrChrisDruif> :P
[10:11] <MrChrisDruif> 9×16 Medieval <= I like this one (not through the complete list)
[10:13] <MrChrisDruif> t is also nice
[14:15] <alexMocanu> hi everybody
[14:16] <alexMocanu> simple question about how memory is allocated when running your program...
[14:16] <alexMocanu> so suppose you have a local variable int i; somewhere in your source code. when you compile it, will there by allocated memory for it even though you may not use that variable at all in your program?
[14:30] <tsimpson> alexMocanu: usually, yes
[14:31] <alexMocanu> tsimpson well what are the exceptions then?
[14:31] <tsimpson> well, the compiler _may_ detect that it's never used and get rid of it, but it may not
[14:32] <tsimpson> you could use -Wunused or -Wunused-variable when compiling to get warning about that kind of thing
[14:57] <alexMocanu> ok, cheers tsimpson!
[14:57] <xyclo> evilduanedesign,??
[14:57] <xyclo> haha i like that
[14:57] <xyclo> is that an non-helpful duanedesign??
[14:57] <xyclo> a
[14:59] <xyclo> Question, evilduanedesign: About fglrx, if you remember our chat the other day, would these Gentoo instrucitions work with Ubuntu
[14:59] <xyclo> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Lenovo_ThinkPad_T400
[15:06] <xyclo> ...
[15:11] <xyclo> ...
[15:16] <xyclo> ...
[15:17] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install fglrx
[15:17] <bioterror> sudo Xorg -configure
[15:17] <bioterror> sudo mv xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:17] <bioterror> sudo reboot
[15:20] <bioterror> actually
[15:20] <bioterror> ubuntu has that driver thingie in the menu
[15:20] <bioterror> I dunno what that's called as I'm not running vanilla 'buntu
[15:21] <JoeMaverickSett> (on the panel) System > Administration > Additional Drivers
[15:26] <xyclo> thanks bioterror
[15:26] <xyclo> it is not that I don't know how to do it
[15:27] <xyclo> it does not work
[15:27] <xyclo> we had a long back and forth with duanedesign the other day
[15:28] <xyclo> we tried lots of things, and ended looking at bug reports...
[15:28] <bioterror> which ati card you have?
[15:29] <bioterror> I have 4350 and no problems with radeonhd and catalyst
[15:29] <xyclo> mobility radeon hd3400
[15:29] <xyclo> lenovo t400
[15:29] <xyclo> let's see the catalyst...
[15:29] <bioterror> what's wrong with the radeonhd?
[15:29] <xyclo> It is installed
[15:29] <xyclo> but I cannot activate it
[15:30] <xyclo> it conflicts with the kernel
[15:30] <xyclo> hm
[15:30] <xyclo> Catalyst? How do I check? I think I installed 11.2
[15:31] <xyclo> oh!
[15:31] <xyclo> It might have worked this time...
[15:31] <xyclo> I'll be back after restart
[15:31] <xyclo> Thanks!
[15:44] <xyclo> Hi again
[15:44] <xyclo> fglrx
[15:44] <xyclo> is working
[15:44] <xyclo> great!
[15:44] <xyclo> Bad thing is that it works with the generic kernel, but not the rt one
[15:45] <xyclo> I need the rt one for low latency + no xruns  with my FW audio interface...
[15:46] <xyclo> I guess I can use video intensive apps with generic and audio with rt, when I need them...
[15:46] <xyclo> Thanks
[15:48] <holstein> xyclo: try -lowlatency
[15:49] <holstein> i assume you are in lucid?
[15:53] <xyclo> hi. holstein
[15:53] <xyclo> I just switched (back) to Maverick
[15:54] <xyclo> You know why?
[15:54] <xyclo> the torrent link to 10.04 64bit is broken...
[15:54] <xyclo> So I got lazy...
[15:54] <xyclo> Anyway,
[15:55] <xyclo>  I'll give the lowlatency a try
[15:55] <holstein> what -rt kernel are you using then?
[15:55] <xyclo> It did not seem to work nearly as well as rt.
[15:55] <xyclo> As I said, I just switched back
[15:55] <holstein> you want https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa
[15:55] <xyclo> I have not even installed rt
[15:55] <xyclo> yep
[15:55] <holstein> why do you need it?
[15:55] <holstein> realtime synths?
[15:55] <xyclo> xruns go down dramatically
[15:55] <holstein> right
[15:55] <xyclo> yep
[15:56] <holstein> OK
[15:56] <xyclo> yoshimi, remember?
[15:56] <holstein> :)
[15:56] <holstein> now i do
[15:56] <xyclo> but I'll see
[15:56] <xyclo> I have more ram now
[15:56] <xyclo> and 64bit
[15:56] <xyclo> although same sound card
[15:56] <xyclo> firewire ESI-PRO Quatafire
[15:56] <xyclo> works great
[15:56] <holstein> cool
[15:56] <holstein> i found in natty
[15:56] <xyclo> but lots of xruns...
[15:56] <xyclo> hm...
[15:56] <xyclo> what?
[15:56] <holstein> -lowlatency performed as well as -realtime
[15:57] <xyclo> aha!
[15:57] <holstein> with my presonus firepod
[15:57] <xyclo> I am so anxious waiting for Natty
[15:57] <holstein> xyclo: what chipset do you have?
[15:57] <xyclo> chipset...
[15:57] <xyclo> let's see
[15:57] <holstein> run lspci
[15:57] <holstein> if you *dont* have a texas instruments chipset
[15:57] <holstein> you can stop beating your head against the wall
[15:57] <holstein> and just get something with TI chip
[15:58] <xyclo> Intel Corp Mobile 4?
[15:59] <xyclo> Does that make sense?
[15:59] <xyclo> holstein, something with TI chip?
[15:59] <holstein> yup
[16:00] <holstein> firewire TI chipset
[16:00] <holstein> thats what you want
[16:00] <holstein> for example
[16:00] <holstein> when i run modest JACK settings
[16:00] <holstein> with -generic kernel
[16:00] <holstein> say, something in the 20+ms range
[16:00] <holstein> i dont get xruns
[16:00] <holstein> unless im opening and closing big apps
[16:00] <holstein> like ardou
[16:00] <holstein> r
[16:00] <xyclo> right
[16:00] <xyclo> nice!
[16:00] <holstein> but not idle xruns
[16:00] <holstein> BUT
[16:01] <holstein> with a funky chipset
[16:01] <holstein> you'll just get them
[16:01] <holstein> nothing you can do about it really
[16:01] <xyclo> I see...
[16:01] <xyclo> Well, for my next interface purchase I'll remember that!
[16:02] <xyclo> Hey, what system do you run?
[16:02] <xyclo> I mean Ubuntu, Arch...
[16:02] <xyclo> ubuntu-beginners... duh?
[16:02] <holstein> ubuntu on most everything
[16:02] <xyclo> ok
[16:20] <xyclo> hey, holstein, the low latency I get from abogani as well? for Maverick??
[16:20] <holstein> yeah
[16:20] <holstein> you can add that PPA anyways
[16:20] <holstein> AFAIK
[16:20] <xyclo> yes, I have it
[16:20] <holstein> i just DL'd the .debs
[16:20] <xyclo> but for Maverick?
[16:20] <webjadmin> Wow, I missed xChat. :D
[16:21] <holstein> xyclo: thats the way i did it
[16:21] <xyclo> ok
[16:21] <xyclo> you also run 10.10?
[16:21] <holstein> and i was told you can just add the lucid or natty one
[16:21] <xyclo> aha
[16:21] <xyclo> I thought I ran into some trouble originally, to instell rt maybe, and that's why I switched to 10.04
[16:21] <xyclo> install
[16:22] <holstein> maybe
[16:22] <xyclo> we'll see...
[16:22] <holstein> i assure you its your chipset though
[16:22] <holstein> ask Strayfolk
[16:22] <holstein> next time you see 'em in #ubuntustudio
[16:23] <holstein> had a ricoh chip set
[16:23] <holstein> was trying all kinds of things
[16:23] <holstein> rtirq
[16:23] <holstein> kernels
[16:23] <holstein> you name it
[16:23] <holstein> TI chip set is what did it :)
[16:24] <xyclo> Actually with rt I get 0(0) xruns throughout
[16:24] <xyclo> using 48kHz, ~10ms
[16:24] <xyclo> 4ins, 8outs
[16:25] <xyclo> so, not bad
[16:25] <JackyAlcine> Hey, is Snort good for security?
[16:25] <JackyAlcine> Or is there a better one?
[16:25] <holstein> xyclo: 10ms is find
[16:25] <xyclo> but rt has quite a few limitations I see
[16:25] <holstein> fine*
[16:25] <xyclo> fine, yes
[16:25] <xyclo> no complaints
[16:25] <holstein> if you need lower latency
[16:25] <xyclo> just rt...
[16:25] <holstein> move closer to your speakers ;)
[16:25] <xyclo> hahah
[16:26] <holstein> i can get 1.2 stable
[16:26] <holstein> but i hardly ever do that
[16:26] <xyclo> well, firepod...
[16:26] <xyclo> don't have the money right now. In between jobs.
[16:26] <xyclo> Long between too...
[16:27] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntustudio/+bug/695893
[16:27] <holstein> ^^ might be relavant to you
[16:29] <xyclo> it seems so
[16:30] <Eriam> hello
[16:31] <Eriam> i need a lot of help from a patient person :)
[16:31] <Eriam> can i find such a person here ?
[16:31] <xyclo> plenty, Eriam
[16:31] <Eriam> good :D
[16:31] <Eriam> thank god
[16:31] <Eriam> so guys... my problem goes like this
[16:32] <xyclo> thank the admins better :)
[16:32] <Eriam> windows user here .. so ...
[16:33] <Eriam> i want to install LAMP ... on a ubuntu 10.10 desktop ... not server cause im used to GUI + i dont have experience with the linux command lines at all
[16:33] <Eriam> all the sites i found that say how to install apache and the rest .. tell me that i just have to use sudo apt-get install apache2 for example
[16:34] <oCean> Eriam: as i tried to point out, there is an easy way: use the 'tasksel' command
[16:34] <Eriam> but when execute the command ... it says it cannot find the thing ...
[16:34] <oCean> Eriam: tasksel is a tool that installs multiple related packages as a co-ordinated "task" onto your system
[16:34] <JoeMaverickSett> Eriam: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9030439/InstallingALAMPServer.pdf that pdf shows you how :)
[16:35] <Eriam> is tasksel a basic application in a desktop version of ubuntu or do i use synaptic to bring it ?
[16:35] <JoeMaverickSett> !tasksel
[16:35] <oCean> Eriam: first, you have to install it: "sudo apt-get install tasksel"
[16:35] <oCean> after that, "sudo tasksel install lamp-server" will do it all for you
[16:36] <Eriam> well ... im gonna try that after the update module applies all the modifications ...
[16:36] <Eriam> I must sound like a real moron to u guys :))
[16:36] <JoeMaverickSett> Eriam: that pdf was from a ubuntu-classroom session.
[16:37] <JoeMaverickSett> Eriam: no, you don't sound like one. :)
[16:37] <oCean> Eriam: but, as ikonia told you in #ubuntu, on https://help.ubuntu.com you'll find a guide that introduces you to the basics of Linux.
[16:38] <holstein> Eriam: check out http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lamp
[16:38] <holstein> i used to run some of these appliances in virtual box :)
[16:38] <Eriam> im gonna look into that too ... it's a lot of info at once
[16:40] <oCean> Eriam: yes, a lot of info. I really would recommend installing LAMP using tasksel, (more info https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel)
[16:40] <Eriam> will try that in a moment... installing pidgin on it now ...  then im gonna reset the system so as the updates take effect then im gonna try installing LAMP through that
[16:44] <Eriam> so ... theoreticaly after i use tasksel and manage to install LAMP , webHTB ... the network shaping tool... it should work ... i guess
[16:48] <oCean> Eriam: I'm not sure what your goal is, but if you're a beginner at linux, don't expect everything to work automagically. You really should learn the basics
[16:50] <Eriam> yeah i know that ... but im kinda forced to do it ...
[16:50] <Eriam> so i got lamp to install
[16:50] <Eriam> finaly somtheing works ^^
[16:51] <oCean> !yay
[16:55] <Eriam> :))
[17:01] <xyclo> holstein, I cannot even see abogani's ppa in maverick...
[17:02] <xyclo> available series: Lucid & Natty
[17:03] <xyclo> I'll have to wait a month to make pc music (till Natty)... Back to guitar I guess
[17:03] <holstein> xyclo: just DL the debs
[17:04] <holstein> http://ppa.launchpad.net/abogani/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/l/
[17:04] <holstein> xyclo: ^^ that worked for me in maverick
[17:05] <holstein> i got the idea from http://jackschnippes.freeunix.net/index.php/2010/11/04/lowlatency-kernel-and-realtime-kernel-for-ubuntu-10-10-maverick
[17:06] <holstein> xyclo: you added the PPA ?
[17:06] <holstein> and ran sudo apt-get update?
[17:08] <Eriam> so ... i installed the LAMP ... now how can i start the processes ?
[17:09] <oCean> Eriam: most likely they are running. And setup to run after you boot
[17:09] <Eriam> how do i start mysql ^^ ?
[17:09] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[17:09] <holstein> maybe read ^^
[17:11] <xyclo> holstein, yep
[17:11] <holstein> xyclo: what about sudo apt-cache search linux-lowlatency ?
[17:11] <holstein> no good?
[17:11] <xyclo> returns nothing
[17:11] <holstein> how did you add the PPA ?
[17:12] <xyclo> synaptic. Repos. Other Software
[17:12] <holstein> try - sudo apt-add-repository ppa:abogani/ppa
[17:13] <xyclo> I can see it in that list, but not under "Origin" in main Synaptic page
[17:13]  * xyclo is doing as instructed...
[17:13] <oCean> Eriam: probably running. Type ps axuww | grep sql to check
[17:14] <xyclo> holstein, "Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~abogani/+archive/ppa: HTTP Error 502: Bad Gateway
[17:14] <xyclo> "
[17:14] <holstein> OK
[17:15] <holstein> xyclo: go and get rid of that PPA
[17:15] <holstein> if its still in your sources
[17:15] <holstein> from before..
[17:15] <Eriam> this is rly getting on my nerves
[17:15] <Eriam> :-<
[17:16] <holstein> Eriam: check out http://www.turnkeylinux.org/lamp
[17:16] <holstein> setting up mysql is not trivial
[17:16] <holstein> i did it once, to say that i could :)
[17:17] <holstein> xyclo: OK
[17:17] <holstein> this is the PPA you should try
[17:17] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~kxstudio-team/+archive/kernel/
[17:17] <holstein> sudo apt-add repository ppa:kxstudio-team/kernel
[17:17] <holstein> you can try that linux-realtime-31 kernel
[17:19] <trinikrono>  Eriam is it just a test server?
[17:21] <Eriam> so i got lamp up ..
[17:21] <Eriam> and i wanna use a software that helps me to do some network shaping
[17:21] <Eriam> from here https://www.webhtb.ro/how-to/details/?q=3
[17:22] <holstein> Eriam: i would suggest trying what you got
[17:22] <holstein> and using those tools as-needed
[17:23] <Eriam> yeah but... what tool does ubuntu desktop have for network shaping ?
[17:24] <holstein> wondershaper came up
[17:24] <holstein> http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2008/07/easy-network-traffic-shaping-on-your.html
[17:24] <holstein> for me in google
[17:25] <holstein> personally, ive never felt like i needed it
[17:25] <holstein> Eriam: are you having complaints?
[17:25] <holstein> about the traffic to your server?
[17:26] <Eriam> im trying to get the server up so as to limit the trafic on a network ... i was told that that tool is newb friendly
[17:27] <holstein> well, i would say im not really a noob anymore
[17:27] <holstein> and nothing you have asked about so far is something i would consider newb-friendly
[17:27] <Eriam> so i figured...
[17:27] <holstein> but, why do you need it?
[17:27] <Eriam> still ... im gonna continue trying ..
[17:28] <Eriam> to limit download/upload speed of usesers on the network im in
[17:28] <holstein> Eriam: i use ddwrt on my routers
[17:28] <holstein> i think there are som advanced tools like thta in there
[17:31] <holstein> Eriam: im not clear on why you need mysql
[17:31] <holstein> for packet shaping
[17:32] <Eriam> it's a requierment for the application
[17:32] <holstein> seems like you can just install wondershaper
[17:33] <holstein> per machine
[17:33] <Eriam> it's easyer this way than to distribute that on every machine... those use windows
[17:35] <Eriam> im gonna have a great headache tonight if i manage 2 to this
[17:35] <Eriam> can you suggest a pdf or something like a tutorial on how to use ubuntu ? with commands and thing like that ? like a manual ... not a help file ?
[17:37] <holstein> the wikis are helpful
[17:37] <holstein> if you know what you are looking for
[17:38] <trinikrono> Eriam: did you ever see the server guide
[17:38] <holstein> Eriam: hey, http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/general/20101116/appliance-mastershaper-network-traffic-shaper
[17:38] <holstein> http://www.mastershaper.org/index.php/Main_Page
[17:38] <holstein> :)
[17:39] <xyclo> holstein, question: If i install thr rt kernel, and fglrx does not work with it, it should still work when I run on my current generic kernel, right?
[17:40] <holstein> xyclo: should
[17:40] <xyclo> nice
[17:40] <holstein> like dual booting
[17:40] <holstein> in a way
[17:40] <holstein> i do that on a laptop
[17:40] <holstein> the wifi doesnt work with -realtime
[17:40] <xyclo> exactly, it's what I thought
[17:41] <holstein> i dont use 3d on my production machine anyways
[17:41] <xyclo> really? wifi worked with abogani's rt kernel
[17:41] <xyclo> but well...
[17:41] <holstein> eh, i dont use networking either
[17:41] <holstein> usually *
[17:41] <xyclo> haha, what DO you do then...
[17:41] <xyclo> Bass, right?
[17:41] <holstein> make music :)
[17:42] <holstein> well thats my day-job
[17:42] <holstein> bass
[17:43] <xyclo> nice
[18:14] <JackyAlcine> How do you auto-identify in xChat?
[18:16] <holstein> this might be a script for you JackyAlcine
[18:16] <holstein> http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?p=10110
[18:16] <Cheri703> JackyAlcine: on the "network list" you choose your network, choose edit, and just put in the password...
[18:16] <Cheri703> at least initially, if it's for later, then yeah, try what holstein suggested: )
[18:16] <Cheri703> * :)
[18:17] <JackyAlcine> Cheri703, thanks. :D
[18:18] <Cheri703> yep
[18:18]  * Cheri703 uses xchat :)
[18:45] <Eriam> can someone tell me how can i install a program that is already downloaded ?
[18:45] <Eriam> after it's extracted
[18:46] <holstein> Eriam: there should be a readme
[18:46] <holstein> it really depends on the program
[18:46] <holstein> what its dependancies are and what-not
[18:46] <evilduanedesign> Eriam: is the program not available in the repositories?
[18:47] <Eriam> no ... so guys ... i came early.er with the problem.. i managed to install all it's dependencies
[18:47] <holstein> yeah ^^ apps in the repos are always the best/easiest way to go
[18:47] <Eriam> and modified the rc.local file
[18:47] <Eriam> meh ... now it tels me that i have 2 go to /var/www
[18:48] <Eriam> went there
[18:48] <Eriam> and executed the wget command to download the file from the given link
[18:48] <Eriam> and it says that the link is not good
[18:48] <Eriam> but still i managed 2 download the file with firefox
[18:49] <Eriam> problem now is that i cant copy it's contents in var/www from home/username/downloads ....
[18:50] <holstein> you have to sudo copy thing into var
[18:50] <holstein> probably have to sudo wget thing into var
[18:50] <holstein> maybe, cd /var/www
[18:51] <holstein> sudo wget whatever
[18:51] <Eriam> what does wget do more precisely ?
[18:51] <holstein> it gets things
[18:51] <holstein> from www
[18:51] <holstein> DL's
[18:52] <Eriam> and what is the copy comand from a folder to another ? is it something like sudo copy "home/user/ etc/file.x" to "var/www" ?
[18:53] <holstein> cp
[18:53] <holstein> probably need -R
[18:53] <holstein> cp -R
[18:53] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=439580
[18:53] <aveilleux> Eriam: You'll have to also chown www-data:www-data file.x
[18:55] <evilduanedesign> xyclo: you got flgrx working?
[18:56] <bioterror> evilduanedesign, ofcourse, I was around :D
[18:57] <evilduanedesign> lol
[18:58] <bioterror> but I dunno what he did :--)
[18:58] <evilduanedesign> bioterror: we could not get it to work with the RT kernel for nothing
[18:59] <bioterror> mystical realtime
[19:01] <holstein> yeah, it wont
[19:01] <holstein> AFAIK
[19:02] <holstein> theres a patch for the nvidia proprietary drivers
[19:03] <holstein> -lowlatency should work fine though
[19:03] <holstein> in both ways
[19:03] <holstein> decent latency
[19:03] <holstein> and 3d :)
[19:04] <holstein> testing in natty looks good with the -realtime kernel
[19:05] <holstein> hopefully, we generally wont need a -realtime kernel anymore
[19:08] <evilduanedesign> holstein: i think the last bug we were at was bug 573748
[19:09] <evilduanedesign> Launchpad bug 573748 in fglrx-installer "[MASTER] fglrx does not build on 2.6.33 kernel and higher" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/573748
[19:09] <holstein> evilduanedesign: thats not RT specific then right?
[19:10] <holstein> *in a couple minutes when that page loads, i'll read for myself ;)
[19:12] <evilduanedesign> holstein: actually i think this is it :P
[19:13] <evilduanedesign> Launchpad bug 159941 in fglrx-installer "fglrx driver does not work in RT kernel" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/159941
[19:13] <holstein> sounds about right
[19:13] <holstein> no one is maintaining that kernel anyways
[19:13] <evilduanedesign> i have too many bugs in my history
[19:13] <evilduanedesign> aha
[19:13] <holstein> in testing, we are going to go with the -lowlatency
[19:13] <holstein> with ubuntustudio
[19:13] <holstein> in natty
[19:14] <holstein> either via PPA or in the repos
[19:14] <holstein> not sure if anyone will maintain a realtime one
[19:15] <holstein> hopefully, the -generic one will be suitable by 12.04 or so
[19:15] <holstein> that will be awesome :)
[19:20] <xyclo> Hey evilduanedesign
[19:21] <xyclo> I see you guys had a whole discussion on the issue already
[19:21] <xyclo> My take is that it won't work with the rt kernel
[19:22] <xyclo> And now, apparently I cannot come back from standby...
[19:32] <holstein> xyclo: with the RT kernel?
[19:32] <holstein> yeah, that not really what that kernel is about
[19:33] <holstein> IF you need to do both, -lowlatency is the way to go
[19:33] <MrChrisDruif> Both? Vid and rt?
[19:34] <MrChrisDruif> Than -lowlatency I'd guess
[19:34] <holstein> MrChrisDruif: both have your cake, and eat it to ;)
[19:34] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[19:35] <MrChrisDruif> Yammy, cake...I could eat that....even now :P
[19:48] <ubuntu42321> what is ext4 used for?
[19:49] <pleia2> it's the default filesystem for ubuntu since 9.10
[19:50] <ubuntu42321> im trying to resize my ubuntu partition and I have an extended and I have ext4
[19:50] <ubuntu42321> which part is ubuntu on?
[19:50] <pleia2> ext4
[19:51] <ubuntu42321> ok, now, I'm on a livecd and when I run sudo update-grub2 I get an error.
[19:51] <ubuntu42321> Do I need to chroot in order to run OS-Prober?
[19:52] <ubuntu42321> and update-grub2?
[19:52] <pleia2> what is the error?
[19:52] <pleia2> you can chroot, but it usually finds it
[19:53] <ubuntu42321> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo update-grub2
[19:53] <ubuntu42321> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[19:53] <pleia2> ah
[19:53] <ubuntu42321> mhm :P
[19:54] <ubuntu42321> I have two drives and I'm resizing Ubuntu to run on SDA. I have win7 on SDB so I need to let grub2 know this after the partition is done resizing.
[19:57] <ubuntu42321> Do you know how to do that?
[20:17] <xyclo> holstein, I have not tried with the kxstudio rt kernel yet
[20:17] <xyclo> I am installing a bunch of other stuff now
[20:18] <holstein> xyclo: firewire will probably still require lowlatency or realtime
[20:19] <holstein> -generic still has issues in natty with firewire
[20:19] <holstein> getting RT privs*
[20:20] <MrChrisDruif> privs?
[20:20] <xyclo> do you know another ppa for a lowlatency kernel (in Maverick)
[20:20] <xyclo> privileges, right?
[20:20] <holstein> yeah, whatever you want to call it
[20:21] <xyclo> niceness?
[20:21] <xyclo> don't know
[20:21] <holstein> xyclo: you really shouldnt have to mess with that anymore either
[20:21] <xyclo> yeah, I heard the podcast...
[20:21] <xyclo> hehe
[20:22] <holstein> http://imagebin.org/141459
[20:22] <holstein> xyclo: 
[20:22] <holstein> thats what is loosely proposed
[20:22] <holstein> hopefully for natty
[20:23] <holstein> we dropped the nice tweak from there
[20:24] <xyclo> nice (pun intended)
[20:24] <holstein> paultag and ailo are working on it :)
[20:27] <xyclo> chapeau to them then
[20:51] <Screw> hi all
[20:51] <MrChrisDruif> Hai Screw :)
[20:53] <Screw> how's things here?
[20:56] <ubuntu42321> oh, things are fine. Just resizing my partition
[20:56] <ubuntu42321> I need help chrooting into it though and updating grub2
[20:58] <MrChrisDruif> Screw: Things are well....bit tired
[20:59] <Screw> I experienced an interesting thing. I turn off X11 'cause I thought my laptop would be better battery time. However it became warmer. The  proprietary ATI driver didn't work on console and didn't put on powersaving mode my graphics card.
[20:59] <MrChrisDruif> That's indeed interesting
 Did you run out of space?
[21:00] <ubuntu42321> Nope. I got another HDD.
[21:01] <ubuntu42321> I dual-boot 10.10/win7x64
[21:01] <ubuntu42321> I want sda to have ALL ubuntu and sdb to have ALL windows.
[21:01] <ubuntu42321> before, sda was split in half
[21:01] <ubuntu42321> Its about to be done resizing in two minutes.
[21:01] <MrChrisDruif> What is the current set up then ubuntu42321?
[21:01] <ubuntu42321> Now, I need to know how to chroot in and update grub2.
[21:02] <ubuntu42321> Current setup?
[21:02] <MrChrisDruif> With partitions and such...
[21:02] <ubuntu42321> SDA will be done resizing in twenty seconds.
[21:03] <ubuntu42321> SDB has win7x64 on it. SDA will have 10.10x64 on it.
[21:03] <ubuntu42321> It's checking for errors now.
[21:04] <ubuntu42321> SDA1+2 -used to- have win7x86 on it, while sda 3+5 had 10.10x64 on it.
[21:04] <ubuntu42321> I deleted sda1+2 and resized sda3 and then sda5 to the rest of the drive.
[21:04] <ubuntu42321> using gparted
[21:05] <ubuntu42321> now, I have sda3 and sda5 as my ubuntu
[21:06] <ubuntu42321> sdb is my win7
[21:06] <MrChrisDruif> root and home?
[21:06] <ubuntu42321> Right now, I need to update grub 2.
[21:06] <ubuntu42321> MrChrisDruif, i dont know if it's seperated into root and home.
[21:07] <MrChrisDruif> What are sda3 & 5? Is one swap?
[21:07] <ubuntu42321> one is extended and one is ext4
[21:07] <ubuntu42321> how do i check if one is swap or not? I dont think I made a swap space...
[21:08] <ubuntu42321> I can provide screenshots or whatever you need me to do. I just want to get this fixed :P
[21:09] <MrChrisDruif> Extended is a partition to put multiple partitions on it...
[21:09] <MrChrisDruif> *IF* I'm not mistaken
[21:09] <ubuntu42321> Ok. So, do I need to change that?
[21:09] <ubuntu42321> How do I make ubuntu primary on sda?
[21:11] <ubuntu42321> I'm going to just try and reboot.
[21:11] <ubuntu42321> idk what grub is doing or if it changed at all but here we go!
[21:16] <RealEyes> ok
[21:20] <Screw> Does ubuntu4321 have ubuntu live cd or we can see him tomorrow? :)
[21:20] <RealEyes> Screw, I am him.
[21:20] <RealEyes> I have livecd
[21:20] <RealEyes> The resize worked and I'm able to get into linux no problems.
[21:21] <Screw> :)
[21:21] <RealEyes> But, look at this pastebin: http://pastebin.com/cwMQaJGK
[21:21] <MrChrisDruif> Great to *see* you RealEyes :)
[21:21] <RealEyes> ;D
[21:21] <RealEyes> os-prober and update-grub2 dont *see* my sdb w/ win7 on it
[21:23] <MrChrisDruif> Meh :P
[21:24] <RealEyes> haha! So, how do I get all these to play nice together?
[21:25] <MrChrisDruif> Ow...*I might know*....<_<"
[21:25] <RealEyes> >.>;
[21:26] <RealEyes> I might try the way you know.
[21:26] <MrChrisDruif> You probably need to fix Windows
[21:26] <RealEyes> fix it how?
[21:26] <MrChrisDruif> Just grab a Windows installer cd and boot to it...say you want to recover windows...
[21:26] <MrChrisDruif> Then back in ubuntu do sudo update-grub(2?) again
[21:26] <RealEyes> lmfao
[21:27] <MrChrisDruif> What? :-/
[21:27] <RealEyes> uh, yeah, I dont' have a windows CD.
[21:27] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[21:27] <MrChrisDruif> Lol
[21:27] <RealEyes> I have win7 on a usb stick
[21:27] <RealEyes> bootable
[21:27] <Reaper50435> can anyone help me setup a brother MFC-490CW printer/scanner
[21:28] <RealEyes> MrChrisDruif, you think I should do that?
[21:28] <RealEyes> Maybe it's something wrong with the HDD in /sdb
[21:29] <RealEyes> it was set up for raid before and I haven't messed with it since. I dont have raid on my pc
[21:30] <MrChrisDruif> RealEyes: I'm not really sure, but I think the resizing had borked Windows up a bit.....boot to an installer (CD or USB ;)) of Windows should be able to fix the problem
[21:30] <RealEyes> I will try and I shall return with news!
[21:44] <Screw> good night
[21:54] <fredhami> How do you set the Internet Content setting in Ubuntu? In Windows you go to Internet option from the control panel and select the Content tab.
[21:56] <fredhami> hello?
[21:56] <pleia2> I'm not sure what "Internet Content" is
[21:57] <pleia2> can you explain?
[21:57] <fredhami> I try one sec
[21:58] <MrChrisDruif> Internet Content.....like filter?
[21:58] <fredhami> IT lets you prevent you children accessing inapporiate material over the Internet
[21:58] <fredhami> does ubuntu have something like that
[21:58] <fredhami> ?
[21:59] <pleia2> not by default
[21:59] <pleia2> Dan's Guardian is probably the most popular
[21:59] <pleia2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DansGuardian
[21:59] <fredhami> you can download Dan Guardian from SOftware Center?
[22:00] <MrChrisDruif> fredhami: Set up OpenDNS, that way you can filter that content...and get a great speedboost to boot (can be relative that speed boost)
[22:00] <pleia2> fredhami: yes, it's in the software center
[22:00] <pleia2> it takes some configuration though
[22:01] <fredhami> WHat is OpenDNS?
[22:01] <MrChrisDruif> An alternative to your ISP's DNS servers :)
[22:01] <fredhami> Is this available on the SOftware CEnter too?
[22:02] <fredhami> and can it filter the content that accessible on the internet
[22:02] <MrChrisDruif> http://www.opendns.com/
[22:02] <MrChrisDruif> And you set it to filter that content....and for all PC's at once :)
[22:03] <fredhami> where do I setup it up from?
[22:03] <MrChrisDruif> It's all explained on the website :)
[22:03] <fredhami> www.opendns.com?
[22:05] <MrChrisDruif> Yeah, but without the question mark :)
[22:05] <fredhami> So I have two options here I can set up Dan Guadian from the SOftware CEnter or set OpenDNS from it website www.opendns.com
[22:06] <MrChrisDruif> I think there are more options, but those two are probably tour best shot :)
[22:06] <fredhami> thankyou Ill check it out
[22:08] <fredhami> i am planning to buy a netbook and install Ubuntu on it and sometimes my kids cans use it and I dont know how to block content on Ubuntu
[22:13] <MrChrisDruif> Well, Firefox "might" have some content filtering options, not sure....no need for me.....single with no kids <_<"
[22:16] <MrChrisDruif> I could suggest Lubuntu, if you think Ubuntu is to slow for the netbook :)
[22:21] <einoensio> Hello everyone. I would like to have soundcard with 5.1 sound in AGP slot and i was just wondering what card work in ubuntu 10.10
[22:23] <MrChrisDruif> I don't know einoensio, but I think most will work....just select the right output :)
[23:37] <kristian-aalborg> trying to figure out if I should remove/ disable AppArmor for speed... any suggestions?
[23:39] <MrChrisDruif> What does AppArmor do?
[23:47] <fredhami> hay I tried to setup the internet content blocker with OpenDNS but there is some configuration involve.  WHat is the other application available in the SOftware Center called somthing Guardian and is it easier to install and use?
[23:48] <MrChrisDruif> Dan Guardian pleia2 suggested, but I don't know if it's easier
[23:49] <fredhami> thanks I check it out again
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> Your welcome fredhami
[23:49] <MrChrisDruif> :)
[23:51] <fredhami> I doing a search for Dan Guardian in the software center search box and its not finding it.
[23:52] <fredhami> maybe its under some other catorgory
[23:52] <fredhami> ?
[23:54] <fredhami> MrCHrisDrif could you help me on this