[00:16] <mhall119> who's doing UWN these days?
[00:18] <Ronnie> mhall119: uwn?
[00:18] <mhall119> ubuntu weekly news
[01:23] <cjohnston> mhall119: at what frequency, or does it need to repeat, should update-openids be run?
[01:28] <mhall119> it shouldn't be repeated
[01:28] <mhall119> it's more of a "clean up when we know something needs cleaning up" command
[01:29] <mhall119> now that lpupdate is setting openids on the users it automatically creates, we shouldn't see any more ${username}2 instances
[01:29] <cjohnston> so we shouldnt get any more XX2's?
[01:29] <mhall119> or, at least once lpupdate is working again
[01:29] <cjohnston> cool
[01:30] <cjohnston> I'm trying to test tonight
[01:30] <cjohnston> dont know if ill get to it :-x
[01:30] <mhall119> we're waiting for translations before we release anyway, right?
[01:30] <mhall119> neither fix has any translatable string changes, so we can merge that in still
[01:31] <cjohnston> ehh... since its a critical bug, i was just thinking push
[01:31] <cjohnston> an email was sent out yesterday requesting translations be done
[01:31] <mhall119> we can do that too
[01:38] <pleia2> mhall119: UWN has no leader at the moment, nhandler and I have pitched in some since we're on the news team (fridge too) but neither of us have time to really own it
[01:39] <pleia2> we're having a meeting this week to talk about the status of things
[01:40] <pleia2> as it is it takes like 16 hours a week for the head editor, and that's too much work for one person (akgraner and johnc did it, but they were exceptional)
[01:42] <mhall119> pleia2: when is the meeting?
[01:43] <pleia2> Thursday, March  10, 2011 @ 2300UTC
[01:43] <mhall119> ok, I'll see if I can make it
[01:43] <pleia2> I think what we need most is a way to automate some of the sections, formatting is really tedious
[09:50] <YoBoY> good morning
[10:31] <effie_ja1x> ishtar: mira tu todav
[11:00] <YoBoY> my sunday stupid question about the LoCo Directory : Why we use on this site "LoCo Team Directory" the Team is not redundant with the Community in LoCo and just a trace of the launchap source/concept ?
[16:06] <nigelb> o/
[16:39] <trinikrono> o/
[16:43] <trinikrono> YoBoY: you think there should update the topic?
[16:49] <YoBoY> trinikrono: no the topic is fine ^^ it's just this is not easy to translate "local community teams" and on ubuntu.com you can find the locos under "Community" not "teams" ;)
[17:11] <trinikrono> lol YoBoY so what is local community teams in french?
[17:13] <YoBoY> well we choose to just translate "communautés locales" we can't put teams around that to make correct french ^^
[17:14] <mhall119> YoBoY: that's fine
[17:14] <mhall119> in English, the "teams" distinguishes individual units of "community" from the greater whole
[17:17] <trinikrono> on the note of the topic though, why dont we have a link to the loco directory in it?
[17:20] <YoBoY> just to be sure for me "local community teams" and "local communities" have different meaning or this is identical ?
[17:23] <mhall119> YoBoY: subtly, but yes
[17:24] <mhall119> "local communities" is a single entity, implied to consist of sub-entities
[17:24] <mhall119> "local community teams" are a collection of entities, implied to compose a super-entity
[17:28] <mhall119> by including 'teams', we emphasise the individual teams more
[17:33] <YoBoY> ok i start to understand a bit more
[17:34] <YoBoY> thanks mhall119 :)
[17:38] <mhall119> np
[17:38] <mhall119> English is a funny language :)
[17:42] <YoBoY> french too sometimes, lot of words to say the same thing
[20:22] <mhall119> cjohnston, Ronnie, daker: can you look over http://paste.ubuntu.com/576479/ and let me know if I'm missing anything
[20:22] <mhall119> I'm doing a write-up for developer.ubuntu.com for web development
[20:24] <Ronnie> mhall119: on what websites are the java-frameworks used?
[20:25] <mhall119> Ronnie: I don't know, but the idea is to highlight what is available to developers who use Ubuntu, not just what is used by Ubuntu
[20:26] <mhall119> Ronnie: you're in ubuntu-nl aren't you?
[20:26] <Ronnie> mhall119: yes ubuntu-nl
[20:26] <Ronnie> you forgot moinmoin
[20:26] <Ronnie> planet
[20:26] <mhall119> Ronnie: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ see the 2 events taking place off the coast of Nigeria?
[20:26] <mhall119> oh, wikis, right
[20:28] <mhall119> Ronnie: those 2 events are both for your team, their venues don't have long/lat
[20:28] <mhall119> I believe both venues are, in fact, IRC channels
[20:28] <mhall119> so maybe those should be Meetings rather than Events?
[20:29] <Ronnie> hmm, o guess that venues with no lat/lng appear on coordinate 0,0
[20:29] <mhall119> yeah
[20:29] <Ronnie> but i thought i checked that already, need to ercheck
[20:30] <mhall119> the webservice returns them as nulls, not 0s
[20:30] <mhall119> but maybe Google's API treats nulls as zeros
[20:31] <YoBoY> mhall119: we use nginx for our sites, not the classic lamp :p
[20:32] <mhall119> YoBoY: thanks, I'll add that too
[20:32] <YoBoY> and if you want to add webapps, we use also dotclear and dokuwiki
[20:32] <mhall119> what is dotclear?
[20:32] <YoBoY> our french planet
[20:32] <YoBoY> :D
[20:33] <mhall119> and are those developer tools, or end-user tools?
[20:33] <YoBoY> hum... end user I think
[20:33] <mhall119> I want to highlight "things that developers use to develop"
[20:33] <YoBoY> why wordpress and drupal ?
[20:34] <mhall119> because lots of web developers use those as the frameworks for their sites/apps
[20:34] <mhall119> bbl, going to see some friends for dinner
[20:35] <YoBoY> hum, ok
[20:35] <YoBoY> you should also put some IDE perhaps
[20:37] <daker_> mhall119, add symfony(PHP Web Framework) => http://www.symfony-project.org/
[20:38] <Ronnie> mhall119: nulls should be filtered by .filter(lng__isnull=False)
[20:39] <Ronnie> mhall119: eclipse as IDE for Java, en django, python
[20:39] <Ronnie> gedit :D
[20:39] <Ronnie> bazaar, svn, git
[20:41] <daker_> mhall119, also add mootools a javascript framework
[20:42] <daker_> and you can ask kim0 for the cloud-init stuff
[20:50] <Ronnie> ground-control (for graphically managing bzr branches on LP)
[21:33] <czajkowski> Aloha 
[22:22] <Ronnie> ah, the code is pushed to production i see
[22:22] <Ronnie> nice work
[22:25] <YoBoY> I can edit my team details now :D
[22:25] <YoBoY> thanks everyone :)
[22:29] <YoBoY> hum... the "team admins" can't be a team anymore ? it always display the subteam members ? :]
[23:55] <cjohnston> YoBoY: thats odd.. the code hasnt been pushed live yet
[23:55] <cjohnston> YoBoY: we dont want it to be a team