| micahg | chrisccoulson: is there any reason you mentioned 3.1.8 specifically in the postinst file for thunderbird? | 10:52 |
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| micahg | fta: if you get a chance, can you look at debian 611725 to see if we need any of those patches? | 11:01 |
| * micahg guesses the bot is still gone | 11:01 | |
| micahg | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=611725 | 11:01 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - are you referring to the folder->symlink migration? | 11:50 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yes | 11:50 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - it was only needed for 3.1.8 | 11:51 |
| chrisccoulson | you can get rid of it now | 11:51 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: right, but people upgrading from maverick, won't they need it as well? | 11:51 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - no, because the install location changes, so the workaround isn't needed | 11:52 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ah, ok, right, makes sense, if I do the 3.1.9 upload, I'll drop it then | 11:52 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 11:52 |
| chrisccoulson | did you try the 3.3 dailies yet? | 11:52 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: not yet, still have testing to do for 3.6.15 | 11:53 |
| chrisccoulson | (i put the alpha 2 build in to the thunderbird-next PPA too) | 11:53 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: cool, I'm on natty now BTW | 11:53 |
| chrisccoulson | excellent | 11:53 |
| micahg | but running xubuntu :) | 11:53 |
| chrisccoulson | using unity? ;) | 11:53 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 11:53 |
| micahg | I'll probably test unity at some point | 11:54 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, we should all be testing it really ;) | 11:54 |
| * micahg doesn't like that xubuntu-desktop has to be removed to install ubuntu-desktop | 11:55 | |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i dropped the firefox-next bzr branch btw. i'm just going to take all of the firefox-next and thunderbird-next builds from trunk | 11:55 |
| chrisccoulson | it's easier than having 2 branches ;) | 11:56 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: that won't work with m-c branching | 11:56 |
| chrisccoulson | that's ok, because branching only happens for release now | 11:56 |
| micahg | right, but what are we going to do for the mozilla-2.0 branch | 11:56 |
| chrisccoulson | nothing ;) | 11:57 |
| micahg | um... | 11:57 |
| chrisccoulson | the RC is bascially what will end up being the release (assuming no show-stoppers), so the next upload will be to the firefox-stable PPA | 11:57 |
| chrisccoulson | and the next upload to firefox-next will come from mozilla-central still (ff5~a1,or whatever) | 11:57 |
| micahg | right, so firefox-4.0.head become the firefox in teh dailes? | 11:58 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, we should do that once firefox 4 is released | 11:58 |
| micahg | rc1 was tagged on mozilla-2.0 BTW | 11:58 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm just testing it now | 11:58 |
| micahg | k | 11:58 |
| chrisccoulson | the builds aren't don yet though (there's nothing on ftp.mozilla.org yet anyway) | 11:59 |
| chrisccoulson | **done | 11:59 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess we could have a firefox-next branch temporarily just to do RC builds for firefox-next now that mozilla-2.0 has branched | 12:01 |
| chrisccoulson | but for most uploads, it's easier just to have a single branch | 12:01 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: if it's the same as you're uploading to natty, you can just use the firefox-4.0 branch I guess | 12:01 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, the issue is that the source package name is different | 12:02 |
| micahg | ah, right | 12:02 |
| chrisccoulson | but the firefox-4.0 branch is what i'll use for firefox-stable | 12:02 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess we don't want firefox-stable to be parallel installable do we? | 12:02 |
| micahg | well, that's not how we had it before | 12:02 |
| micahg | I would think for stable people want the drop in replacement | 12:03 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's what i was planning to do | 12:03 |
| chrisccoulson | that also means we get official branding, and one less reason for people to use ubuntuzilla | 12:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, upstream is planning to force libxul and IPC in configure, are we ok with those changes? | 12:04 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 12:04 |
| chrisccoulson | i saw that | 12:04 |
| chrisccoulson | doesn't work for all of our architectures though | 12:04 |
| chrisccoulson | (powerpc) | 12:04 |
| chrisccoulson | and i guess, other distro's that support more architectures are going to have more problems than us | 12:05 |
| micahg | right, so should we ask upstream not to force that? | 12:05 |
| chrisccoulson | we should probably fix powerpc tbh | 12:05 |
| chrisccoulson | we could raise it as an issue though | 12:05 |
| chrisccoulson | we currently turn off IPC on powerpc | 12:05 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: maybe chat with glandium as Debian has to support it as well | 12:05 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'll talk to him in the week | 12:05 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm going to try and keep on top of firefox-stable once 4.0 is released. i really don't want users downloading the ubuntuzilla packages | 12:06 |
| micahg | well, idk what the problem with 3.6.x was, we upload same or next day to -security the updates | 12:07 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess i need to test the upgrade paths this week from each release to the current natty branch | 12:07 |
| chrisccoulson | so people using firefox-next get a nice upgrade path | 12:07 |
| micahg | that would be nice :) | 12:07 |
| * micahg has to start working on the webkit upgrade this week | 12:08 | |
| chrisccoulson | has anyone seen gnomefreak recently? | 12:20 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: Feb 24 | 12:27 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, quite a long time ago | 12:27 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess I'll need to talk to IS then :/ | 12:27 |
| micahg | I hope everything is ok | 12:27 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah | 12:28 |
| micahg | have you tried e-mailing? | 12:28 |
| chrisccoulson | not yet | 12:28 |
| fta | hi | 12:52 |
| fta | micahg, could you please build the current chromium 10 beta on arm? it should be promoted to stable on Tuesday. it has the arm ftbfs fix and the changelog fix too | 12:54 |
| fta | also, there's a problem with the html5 video tag. it's broken, i can't figure out why | 12:55 |
| fta | oh, and the ch10 update is also a security update | 12:56 |
| micahg | fta: I'll upload to the u-m-s PPA in the mean time since my last arm build was OOM and took way too long | 12:57 |
| micahg | fta: the version will be higher on the promoted one, right? | 12:57 |
| micahg | fta: also, does it matter which release? | 12:58 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: is the crash reporter working for thunderbird yet in natty? | 13:01 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, yeah, it should be | 13:01 |
| micahg | hmm, it didn't actually crash, it was just hidden, good | 13:01 |
| fta | micahg, i just need a test build. it will not be the exact same version/tarball. | 13:03 |
| micahg | fta: ok, do you care which release? | 13:04 |
| fta | the arm flags are lucid vs post lucid | 13:04 |
| micahg | I'm tempted to do natty since it'll have all the deps | 13:05 |
| fta | natty is fine | 13:05 |
| micahg | great | 13:05 |
| fta | you can dget this one: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta/+files/chromium-browser_10.0.648.127~r76697-0ubuntu1~ucd~beta2.dsc | 13:05 |
| micahg | I'm just copying from the PPA | 13:05 |
| micahg | \o/ no timeout | 13:06 |
| micahg | fta: hopefully we'll know in about 20 hours | 13:07 |
| fta | cool | 13:08 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, uhuh, seems my blog post about unity is popular | 13:23 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - "I never switched to Compiz (no benefits for my use case) and I would still be using Metacity if Unity was usable with it" - did you try unity-2d? | 13:27 |
| chrisccoulson | that runs with metacity | 13:27 |
| chrisccoulson | (but it also pulls in qt) | 13:27 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, the thing in Maverick UNE? | 13:28 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - no, unity-2d is new for natty (it's in the archive now) | 13:28 |
| fta | oh | 13:28 |
| chrisccoulson | up until last week, unity-2d was more feature complete than unity proper ;) | 13:29 |
| fta | i will | 13:29 |
| fta | i already have qt because of calibre and googleearth iirc | 13:29 |
| chrisccoulson | it's still a bit crashy tbh (just like unity), but it's pretty impressive considering it's not using compiz | 13:30 |
| micahg | oh, maybe I'll try unity w/out ubuntu-desktop | 13:30 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, how do I switch? | 13:32 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - you need to select the 2D session option from GDM | 13:33 |
| fta | grrr; it brings appmenu-gtk back | 13:33 |
| micahg | compiz is using boost, yuck | 13:34 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, what's the w-m of unity 2d? metacity, mutter? | 13:35 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - it's using metacity | 13:35 |
| fta | oohoh | 13:35 |
| fta | \o/ | 13:35 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, hm, no indicator at all | 13:44 |
| fta | micahg, about the debian arm bug, it's about armv4t, we target v7 | 13:58 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, how do I add the indicators & nautilus back in unity-2d? | 13:59 |
| fta | (<unknown>:13800): libindicator-WARNING **: File '/usr/lib/indicators/4/libapplication.so' does not exist. | 14:24 |
| fta | $ dpkg -S libapplication.so | 14:24 |
| fta | indicator-application: /usr/lib/indicators/5/libapplication.so | 14:24 |
| fta | #6 0x065c65ad in fastGetOwnPropertySlot (this=0xbfa3cda8, exec=0xb3fff048, propertyName=..., slot=...) at ../3rdparty/javascriptcore/JavaScriptCore/runtime/JSObject.h:382 | 14:38 |
| fta | oh my, Qt has its own JS JIT engine | 14:38 |
| fta | and it's crashing | 14:38 |
| fta | micahg, remainder, ch 10 needs libvpx 0.9.5+ | 15:03 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - sorry, i went away for lunch | 15:11 |
| chrisccoulson | fta - i wonder if nautilus is set to not draw the desktop in unity-2d? it used to be that way in the old unity | 15:11 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure about the indicators though -they should just work | 15:11 |
| fta | nope https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-2d/+bug/724717 | 15:12 |
| fta | evo looks different in unity-2d | 15:23 |
| fta | no more preview | 15:23 |
| fta | but tabs instead | 15:23 |
| fta | gasp, evo is totally broken | 15:24 |
| BUGabundo | howdy | 15:58 |
| BUGabundo | fta: Femme de ménage sexy Paris Lyon Lille Montpellier http://t.co/AAUgITv with ubuntu logo | 17:53 |
| === BUGabundo is now known as BUGa_fewd | ||
| micahg | fta: that's why I wanted to build natty and thanks for checking the Debian bug | 20:16 |
| fta | micahg, did you see about libvpx? | 20:17 |
| micahg | fta: yep, that was the first half of my comment ;) | 20:17 |
| fta | also, the <video> tag regressed, but i have no idea why, i checked, nada | 20:18 |
| fta | would be nice to bisect and find out when it happened | 20:19 |
| micahg | :(, do you have a good test for that I can add to QRT? | 20:19 |
| fta | youtube | 20:19 |
| * micahg thinks youtube regressed | 20:19 | |
| fta | nonix4, everything using <video> | 20:20 |
| fta | nonix4, n-m | 20:20 |
| fta | i meant "no, ..." | 20:20 |
| fta | damn xchat | 20:20 |
| fta | micahg, also http://diveintohtml5.org/detect.html#video (under the pictures) | 20:21 |
| fta | it says "does not support HTML video" | 20:22 |
| fta | while it used to work | 20:22 |
| === BUGa_fewd is now known as BUGabundo | ||
| micahg | fta: was H.264 removed already? | 20:23 |
| fta | micahg, nope, i don't think so. and vorbis is broken too | 20:24 |
| micahg | fta: how soon do you think they'll release to stable? this doesn't sound good | 20:24 |
| fta | Tuesday morning, PST | 20:25 |
| micahg | ok, I guess after I finish testing and release Firefox I can try to narrow this down | 20:26 |
| fta | HTML5 video is not part of my own test, so i missed it, but i assume it's broken in v9 too | 20:26 |
| fta | maybe another side effect of the codecs merge | 20:26 |
| micahg | well, we have tests for webm | 20:26 |
| BUGabundo | I was the one sounding the alarms :P | 20:26 |
| fta | BUGabundo, yep, thanks :) | 20:26 |
| BUGabundo | I always use youtube in html5 | 20:27 |
| fta | as i said in my blog post about unity, my productivity declined significantly because of compiz/unity | 20:27 |
| BUGabundo | yeah, I miss having a stable compiz | 20:29 |
| BUGabundo | metacity its toooooo basic for me | 20:29 |
| BUGabundo | but compiz its to crashy | 20:30 |
| fta | i don't see what compiz has that metacity can't do (beside useless graphical effects) | 20:30 |
| micahg | hmm, trunk seems ok | 20:30 |
| fta | micahg, ? | 20:31 |
| micahg | chromium | 20:31 |
| fta | for youtube, you must opt-in to the html5 beta | 20:31 |
| x_link | Hi! | 20:31 |
| x_link | I have some small problems getting Firefox 3.6 running on my laptop with Hardy. | 20:31 |
| fta | micahg, http://www.youtube.com/html5 | 20:31 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: trunk here. not ok | 20:32 |
| BUGabundo | 11.0.693.0 (77055) Ubuntu 11.04 | 20:32 |
| x_link | I downloaded a tar.gz-file which I extracted and made a shortcut to the startup-file. This works with 3.5 but not with 3.6 | 20:32 |
| micahg | hmm, everything's still using flash | 20:33 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: YOUAREDONGITWRONG :P | 20:33 |
| micahg | x_link: we don't support the .tar.gzs | 20:33 |
| micahg | x_link: what do you need a package for? | 20:34 |
| chrisccoulson | x_link, why aren't you just using the package we provide? | 20:35 |
| x_link | Hmm is there a "special" file for 3.6 in hardy? | 20:35 |
| chrisccoulson | what do you mean? | 20:36 |
| x_link | chrisccoulson: Which one is the package that you provide? | 20:36 |
| chrisccoulson | 3.6 is the default browser in hardy | 20:36 |
| micahg | x_link: 3.6.14 is the default in hardy | 20:36 |
| x_link | chrisccoulson: My english isn't that very good. | 20:36 |
| chrisccoulson | just install and make sure you apply all the security updates, and you have 3.6 ;) | 20:37 |
| x_link | Hmmm....it's 3.5 for me. When I upgrade it to 3.6 it won't load/start. | 20:37 |
| x_link | chrisccoulson: I tried that, it won't load/start then. | 20:37 |
| chrisccoulson | not sure where you got 3.5 from | 20:37 |
| chrisccoulson | it's never had 3.5 | 20:37 |
| x_link | I installed firefox-3.0, then it upgraded to 3.5, after that 3.6 | 20:37 |
| x_link | So I should just run "sudo aptitude install firefox" ? | 20:38 |
| x_link | Pretty strange that it doesn't work for me. | 20:38 |
| BUGabundo | fta: more serious then no webM, for me, is it crashes on a certain site! | 20:39 |
| BUGabundo | reported weeks ago, zero feedback | 20:39 |
| chrisccoulson | x_link - you should just ensure you have all security updates | 20:39 |
| fta | BUGabundo, where? | 20:39 |
| x_link | chrisccoulson: How do I do that? | 20:40 |
| BUGabundo | fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=73913 | 20:40 |
| BUGabundo | every SINGLE time | 20:40 |
| chrisccoulson | x_link, you probably need to be in #ubuntu | 20:40 |
| BUGabundo | I'm going mad | 20:40 |
| BUGabundo | using FF now | 20:40 |
| chrisccoulson | this isn't really a support channel | 20:40 |
| x_link | Hehe | 20:41 |
| x_link | chrisccoulson: Mozilla Firefox 3.6.16pre Seems like I have that one now. | 20:43 |
| chrisccoulson | x_link, if you're asking how to apply security updates, you really shouldn't be using our daily builds | 20:44 |
| fta | BUGabundo, even in --temp-profile mode? | 20:44 |
| chrisccoulson | 3.6.16pre is a daily buil | 20:44 |
| chrisccoulson | d | 20:44 |
| BUGabundo | fta: testing | 20:44 |
| BUGabundo | fta: question: where the heck is chromium on a brand NEW profile get my passwords from??? | 20:45 |
| fta | BUGabundo, i really wish we had breakpad so those go directly upstream | 20:45 |
| BUGabundo | no login at all | 20:45 |
| BUGabundo | breakpad | 20:45 |
| BUGabundo | ? | 20:45 |
| fta | BUGabundo, it's not supposed to | 20:45 |
| BUGabundo | fta: all my chromium installs on several machines do that | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | both new profiles and private | 20:46 |
| fta | breakpad to submit the crashes upstream automatically | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | scare the hell out of me | 20:46 |
| fta | hm | 20:46 |
| * chrisccoulson will look at that this week now we have alpha 3 out of the way | 20:46 | |
| BUGabundo | new profile is NOT chrashing | 20:46 |
| BUGabundo | hunting down the add on | 20:47 |
| BUGabundo | that can be causing it | 20:47 |
| BUGabundo | gonna take a while | 20:47 |
| x_link | chrisccoulson: Well okey then, thanks for your help. | 20:47 |
| BUGabundo | does the trace tell you anything? | 20:47 |
| fta | BUGabundo, i see sun java in your crash | 20:50 |
| BUGabundo | really? | 20:50 |
| fta | but your particular crash seems related to the DNS | 20:50 |
| BUGabundo | that's even stranger | 20:51 |
| fta | crashes while resolving something | 20:51 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 20:51 |
| fta | looks similar to the old http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=25823 | 20:54 |
| BUGabundo | ill disabel addons and test | 20:55 |
| BUGabundo | give me a few (many) minutes | 20:55 |
| BUGabundo | buum | 21:01 |
| BUGabundo | just after 6 addons | 21:01 |
| BUGabundo | GOT IT | 21:01 |
| BUGabundo | fta: mind testing this a bit? https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nffehaffffkpgiloohpklpanbfhnkocb | 21:02 |
| BUGabundo | fta: bug updated , dev contacted | 21:11 |
| fta | i'm busy fixing my netbook. failed badly in the middle of a maverick->natty upgrade | 21:11 |
| fta | BUGabundo, are you sure it's this addon? | 21:12 |
| BUGabundo | with it disable , crash doesn't happen | 21:12 |
| fta | i mean, does it crash if you have just this one? | 21:12 |
| BUGabundo | let me reenable all again | 21:13 |
| BUGabundo | and test | 21:13 |
| fta | nonix4, disable everything expect this one | 21:13 |
| fta | grrr | 21:13 |
| BUGabundo | no crash | 21:13 |
| fta | nick completion suffix: "," | 21:14 |
| fta | disabled | 21:14 |
| BUGabundo | hihih | 21:16 |
| fta | BUGabundo, do you remember when the HTML5 video started to fail? | 21:20 |
| BUGabundo | one day before I told u | 21:22 |
| fta | 2 days ago? | 21:25 |
| BUGabundo | was it ? | 21:25 |
| BUGabundo | feels like more | 21:25 |
| BUGabundo | lol | 21:25 |
| fta | could you check? | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | let me grep the logs | 21:26 |
| BUGabundo | 2011-03-05.162324+0000WET.txt:(2011-03-05 19:02:14) freenode: with html5 enabled | 21:27 |
| BUGabundo | man, I must leave home | 21:28 |
| BUGabundo | I'm going crazy here | 21:28 |
| BUGabundo | time does NOT pass :S | 21:28 |
| fta | so it's recent | 21:29 |
| fta | do you still have the previous build? | 21:29 |
| BUGabundo | probably | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | I keep | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | all | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | and install daily | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | let me revert a few days | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16M 2011-03-01 08:15 chromium-browser_11.0.687.0~svn20110301r76345-0ubuntu1~ucd1_amd64.deb | 21:30 |
| BUGabundo | its the oldest I have | 21:31 |
| fta | revert the codecs too | 21:32 |
| fta | use the same version | 21:32 |
| fta | micahg, fyi, i will promote one new lang in ch10. Uyghur, they jumped from 17% translated yesterday to 91.3% tomorrow | 21:38 |
| fta | that's even 94.5% in the current beta | 21:40 |
| fta | woo, and 99.4% in stable | 21:42 |
| micahg | fta: that should be fine | 21:42 |
| fta | it's automatic anyway. part of the tarball creation | 21:43 |
| fta | well, no. whitelisting new langs is not automatic, landing new strings is | 21:43 |
| fta | BUGabundo, so? | 21:50 |
| BUGabundo | sorry, busy | 21:51 |
| BUGabundo | $ sudo dpkg -i chromium-browser_11.0.687.0~svn20110301r76345-0ubuntu1~ucd1_amd64.deb chromium-browser-dbg_11.0.687.0~svn20110301r76345-0ubuntu1~ucd1_amd64.deb chromium-browser-inspector_11.0.687.0~svn20110301r76345-0ubuntu1~ucd1_all.deb chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra_11.0.687.0~svn20110301r76345-0ubuntu1~ucd1_amd64.deb chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-nonfree_11.0.687.0~svn20110301r76345-0ubuntu1~ucd1_all.deb | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | Your profile can not be used because it is from a newer version of Chromium. | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | Some features may be unavailable. Please specify a different profile directory or use a newer version of Chromium. | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | fta: ^^^^^^^^^^ | 22:04 |
| fta | uh | 22:04 |
| fta | wfm | 22:04 |
| fta | i mean the downgrade | 22:04 |
| BUGabundo | still happens | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | can't play | 22:05 |
| fta | it's not an old one | 22:05 |
| fta | but video still NOK | 22:05 |
| BUGabundo | so its older then 2011-03-01 r76345 | 22:05 |
| fta | I merged the codecs in 674 | 22:08 |
| fta | damn, lp no longer has it | 22:08 |
| BUGabundo | LP aint made for dailies | 22:09 |
| BUGabundo | back to chromium-browser (11.0.693.0~svn20110305r77055-0ubuntu1~ucd1) ... | 22:11 |
| fta | pff, i need to rebuild those | 22:13 |
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| fta | micahg, BUGabundo: good news, ch9 stable and ch10 beta are fine. only ch11 (dev & trunk) are broken | 22:57 |
| BUGabundo | kk | 22:57 |
| fta | so it's not my codecs merge after all | 22:57 |
| fta | dev is at 686, so it's older than that, and beta at 648 | 22:59 |
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| === Brownout_ is now known as Brownout | ||
| micahg | fta: ah, good news, thanks | 23:18 |
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