[00:01] iain@iain-Studio-1558:~/www_idophp$ mkdir R [00:01] iain@iain-Studio-1558:~/www_idophp$ cd R [00:01] iain@iain-Studio-1558:~/www_idophp/R$ ls [00:01] Why o why did I just do that last command? [00:01] force of habit [00:01] like putting your nose around a door and having a glance in, for a new room [00:01] you're expressing your male dominance :> [00:01] assuming your gender of course [00:02] :) [00:03] meh [00:03] keep seeing pink bars across my screen [00:03] when I look closer they aren't there [00:03] * hamitron is cracking up [00:04] i've had that [00:04] general hallucinations :> [00:04] haha [00:05] omg [00:05] can't stand this, 130Gb to move into 100Gb space [00:05] sending me insane [00:06] gotta free up the hdd for new comp parts arriving this week [00:07] re: hey jude .. http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwn3lt2ksU1qzxzwwo1_500.jpg [00:08] hamitron: haha, that's tiny storage ;) [00:08] and tiny data too [00:08] XD [00:08] daftykins: there is more ;/ [00:09] that is just the last stuff to move [00:09] ah [00:09] i was going to say! modern times [00:09] yeh, even I would not struggle with just that amount ;/ [00:10] problem is, data collections grow to the storage [00:10] and when you need to tweak storage setups, a pain [00:10] absolutely [00:10] *points at 75% full 5TB NTFS array on windows file server ;/* [00:11] yeh [00:11] exactly [00:11] so it wouldn't help, me putting more money into it [00:11] ;) [00:11] i spent way too much when i went from the previous RAID to this one [00:11] I got about 2.3tb of stuff === Azelphur is now known as zz_Azelphur [00:12] but I also like to keep multiple copies, in case a drive breaks [00:12] so that kinda makes it harder [00:13] I could free 22Gb by uninstalling 2 games [00:13] :) [00:13] but I have to "live" till later in the week [00:14] yeah i only copy my music to other drives really [00:14] HazRPG: it mostly wasn't done with trackers in c64 era. you literally just stuff the right values into the right registers. the good news is they did documentation properly back then; http://archive.6502.org/datasheets/mos_6581_sid.pdf :D === zz_Azelphur is now known as Azelphur [00:15] shauno: Cool, thanks. [00:15] * hamitron spanks Azelphur [00:15] wait... what did I say for you to post that? [00:16] * HazRPG feels confused [00:16] something about books a while back. just got back from watching a movie [00:16] ah [00:16] * Azelphur counter spanks hamitron [00:16] :-o [00:16] for a second there, I though you were somehow reading the blog post I was about to do [00:16] what is with the zz renames? [00:17] happened last night too [00:17] 0o [00:17] books on trackers would be odd. maybe magazine articles, but anyone serious enough about it to buy a book would just be writing code [00:17] hamitron: at a guess it's a mildly irritating way to indicate he's away :) [00:18] mgdm: maybe, but he needs to sleep for longer [00:18] ;) [00:19] it's been proven that Azelphur never sleeps [00:19] :) [00:19] Azelphur: did you ever rig up that lighting system to indicate when someone's at your door whilst you have headphones on? [00:20] hamitron: means I got dc'd or more likely X crashed again :P [00:20] ah [00:20] X sucks [00:20] ;/ [00:20] daftykins: I have a USB doorbell [00:20] it runs aplay doorbell.wav [00:20] serious? [00:20] XD! [00:21] yup [00:21] daubers has a Jabber doorbell [00:21] it would be more fun to run shutdown -h 120 [00:21] then you could tell sales people you have to get back to something [00:22] I'd show the photo but nautilus has randomly decided it's not going to show thumbnails for most of my photos today [00:22] so it's impossible to find. [00:22] :/ [00:22] aww [00:23] if ever in life i feel overcome by change [00:23] i'll come on here and wait for Azelphur to mention a bug he's got going on [00:23] and i'll find some solace [00:23] hehe [00:23] lol [00:23] I've got lots atm [00:23] including "Lets just randomly freeze for up to 60 seconds every time you play a game" [00:23] :( [00:24] well, you should change to an i3 cpu [00:24] ;) [00:24] and "If you move the mouse while you're freezing, heaven forbid, I'm going to make the mouse pointer flicker forever and X unresponsive until you kill it" [00:24] :P [00:24] or we could swap comps? [00:24] lol [00:25] I have it all pegged to multi X screen bugs tbh [00:25] I should point out I don't have an i3 yet... [00:25] if your X hangs, and you manage to login from another machine via SSH, what command should you run to fix it? [00:25] nucc1: you can try sudo stop gdm and then sudo start gdm [00:25] nucc1: I tried going to ubuntu-x and here and asked that question, got nowhere :( [00:26] haha, besides that. [00:26] sudo shutdown -r 0 is more reliable [00:26] yay I found the photo of the USB doorbell http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/July%202010/2010-07-22%2017.36.43.jpg [00:26] shutdown -r 0 is like reboot? [00:26] yep [00:26] yeh [00:26] i always use that [00:26] sudo shutdown -h and -r [00:26] cos i notice that trying to restart X doesn't usually yield any results [00:26] with a number, or "now" [00:27] Azelphur: you sir, are a pioneer! [00:27] :D [00:27] it's actually very simple to do, requires no hardware hacking, and can be done for about £2 [00:27] firefox is acting all weird [00:27] nucc1: "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" would be the one [00:27] :/ [00:27] nucc1: though you wouldn't need to SSH from another comp, you should be able to switch to a TTY? ctrl+alt+f1 etc? [00:27] I simply bought one of those cheapo Panic / Boss mode buttons and plugged it in [00:28] daftykins, not when X is frozen [00:28] ah ok [00:28] it seems to send some weird key combo like ctrl+alt+shift+meta+5 [00:28] just checking :D [00:28] so I just used xbindkeys to bind it to aplay doorbell.wav and we have a winner [00:28] Azelphur, clicking on the link you gave has made my xchat start acting funny [00:28] i am typing blind :p [00:28] ITS BUG DAY [00:28] lol [00:28] :P [00:28] i only see square boxes, like undefined unicode points [00:29] Azelphur: I see a sign on a door, not a door bell [00:29] lemme reboot it. [00:29] hamitron: I suppose that's because the awesome sign is disrtracting you from the also awesome doorbell [00:30] it is frightening me [00:30] lol, the doorbell is not the most prominent thing int he pic [00:30] I shall never ask questions again [00:30] :D [00:30] and you need a lesson on photography [00:30] ;) [00:30] not really, that was actually a photo of the poster on the door [00:30] it just also happens to have the doorbell in it [00:31] ah, well, you should of told me it was bottom right [00:31] it isn't in focus though :/ [00:31] hehe [00:32] would be no good for me [00:32] I break my comp too often === Guest51826 is now known as LjL-Temp [00:32] you're talking to Azelphur :> [00:32] haha [00:32] ah, true :D [00:32] yea, people asked me what happens if your computer is turned on === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest83684 [00:32] turned off* [00:33] HA HA HA [00:33] hehe [00:33] but the simple obvious answer to that is if my computer ain't on, I ain't listening to music and I can hear you outside the door. [00:33] just say "let me in" [00:33] lol [00:33] :O the secret code word [00:33] *scribbles* [00:33] hehe [00:33] gives you time to hide the tissues at least ;) [00:34] and ffs, anyone else here use libreoffice? [00:34] is it not fairly obvious that if your computer isn't running, you're too busy to answer the door anyway? [00:34] hehe [00:34] what about libreoffice? [00:35] it won't uninstall [00:35] on windows though [00:35] poof [00:36] just hanging [00:36] * nucc1 hits hamitron with a laddle [00:36] shauno: hmm, I don't want my blog to sound inaccurate, have a quick skim through and see if this sounds ok: http://www.hazsoft.co.uk/2011/03/06/trackers-music-software/ [00:36] if you don't mind that is :) [00:36] * hamitron hides [00:38] * nucc1 has deployed a scarecrow aimed at winxp users [00:38] hamitron: hmm, I haven't had trouble uninstalling LibreOffice from windows... [00:39] the uninstaller is running out of HIGH_MEM [00:39] so toke some more [00:39] *ahem* [00:39] sorry. [00:39] i do not condone the above action [00:40] there are a large number of "above action" [00:43] when? [00:43] i don't know the convo [00:45] HazRPG: not sure what to tell you; appears your site makes my browser assplode [00:45] :) [00:45] waaaa? [00:46] bah, coffee time [00:46] hm, I don't have dropbox on here atm [00:46] shauno, what kind of browser?? [00:47] an intarwebs browser! [00:47] how? I changed that theme to a crisper/clearer theme when I started blogging again (the old one did some javascript wizardry to make the colours change slowly - was pretty cool, but lagged out on some browsers) [00:47] (safari 5.1 (7534.20.8) on osx 10.7. I'm finding bugs pretty much everywhere I look :) [00:47] HazRPG: sounds fascinating [00:47] dwatkins: my post? [00:47] :) [00:47] shauno, i have to say that browser needs to lose two letters off the end of its name. [00:48] HazRPG: the idea of colour cycling on your blog [00:48] dwatkins: it was rather random [00:48] safa? that's not funny at all :( [00:48] nucc1: not many alternatives unfortunately. I don't hate myself enough to use firefox for day-to-day browsing [00:49] shauno, chrome and FF4 aren't options? [00:49] dwatkins: I think it just changed the hue of the background image, which looked like the northern lights [00:49] FF is never an option. chrome is pretty much zero-gain [00:49] dwatkins: was rather cool, but it was a 50/50 game with some machines for some reason [00:50] shauno: I thought you used chrome? [00:50] i'd rather anything than Safari [00:50] I use chrome at work [00:50] shauno, your choice. I don't think i need to know your reasons. FF4 has been giving me joy since i can remember. [00:51] FF gives me joy. very, very slowly. until it pigs out all the ram it can get it's hands on, I kill it, and start receiving joy (slowly) from scratch again [00:51] lol. how long on average is your uptime before it pigs out? [00:51] rarely more than 5 hours [00:52] firefox wouldn't like my browsering habits :/ [00:52] i've got about 80 tabs here, and it's got 1.3G of Virtual memory, and 661mb of resident. [00:52] (because in an unrelated problem I have with it, it always crashes during my lunchbreak) [00:53] lol. havent' experienced a crash in dog years [00:53] or should I say doesn't like [00:53] HazRPG, how so? [00:53] I haven't crashed ff since friday. I also haven't used it since friday :/ [00:53] erm, my browser never closes? [00:53] just like my PC [00:54] HazRPG, so what do you use that is so infinitely stable and resource efficient? [00:54] nucc1: chrome does my job just fine :) [00:54] me, i just kill it when it gets too heavy and run it again. [00:54] nucc1: you shouldn't have to do that though [00:54] i just do it when i feel like [00:55] i don't really get prompted. [00:55] when i start wondering what is happening to my 4G of ram, i just pick random guys to kill [00:55] FF and evolution usually go first. [00:55] WTF, java is currently sitting on 1.2G. [00:56] darn. musta been the experiments i've been doing lately [00:57] it is a nasty habbit leaving a browser open [00:57] I am trying to break my habbit [00:57] :) [00:57] wow, it's crazy what programs of nowadays do to ram [00:57] i've got little hotot here happily munching 512mb of VM [00:57] whatever it needs that much for. [00:57] off with its head [00:58] day to day stuff needs more ram than high end games :/ [00:58] I have a web app open for 12 hours a day at work. having to kill things because they can't behave really isn't; well, shouldn't be normal [00:58] keeping the browser open isn't mine [00:58] keeping a million tabs that i never finish with open, is :> [00:58] yeh [00:58] that is why I never close my browser [00:58] yea, so many tabs i don't want to close cos i'm not sure i'm done with them [00:58] "I will read them pages later" [00:59] similar situation with my "Downloads" folder [00:59] its so large now that it takes up to a minute to load in nautilus. [00:59] I have "old_downloads1,2,3,4,etc" [00:59] :/ [00:59] ~/Downloads is death row on my machine. if you're still in there 7 days layer, you go straight to the bitbucket [01:00] :) [01:00] I half think browsers should start downloading things straight to the Trash, so you can just hit empty at the end of the day [01:00] shauno, you got a cronjob for that? [01:00] I do [01:00] haha [01:00] so lazy... I am impressed :) [01:00] shauno, where is it :) [01:01] won't mind to rig that kind of setu [01:01] setup* [01:01] that's a good question; not on my regular OS atm [01:01] * shauno goes poking [01:01] what if you are unable to get to your comp for a week? [01:01] then you download it again [01:01] due to say illness [01:01] if you can't remember it, then you didn't really need it. [01:02] then I'll download it again [01:02] I am the opersite [01:02] I keep everything "in case" [01:02] I let the internet hoard stuff :) [01:02] only files i create myself are "never delete" [01:02] I wonder if you can get everything I still have [01:03] if it's in ~/Downloads, it can be downloaded again [01:03] there's some stuff in /Volumes/Vault that I don't fancy trying to dig up again. but that's why it wasn't left to language in d/ls [01:04] gah, languish [01:04] lol [01:04] if that just autocorrected my spelling I'm going to go nuts [01:04] autocorrect on the pc? [01:04] hmmm [01:04] osx 10.7 [01:04] its the first thing i turn off on my phones. [01:04] I'm rather worried about how much parts of it are starting to feel like a giant cellphone [01:04] lol [01:05] i don't mind. [01:05] i just don't like autocorrect. [01:05] it is dumb [01:05] "last night, i got really sacred..." [01:05] if it is new and different, like normal I complain :) [01:05] stupid thing thinks that "sacred" is more commonly used than "scared" [01:05] my only real complaint with autocorrect is that I curse like a sailor, and my phone apparently doesn't [01:06] :) [01:06] other than that, it does a better job than my thumbs [01:06] I find fingers helpful [01:06] it just helped you spell "language", when you meant to type a shorter word. that doesn't bother you? [01:07] I'm not sure if it did. and I'm not sure it didn't. I can't seem to replicate it, but it strikes me as a surprisingly readable typo [01:07] sometimes you can type the wrong words though [01:07] very funny. [01:07] different to the ones you are thinking [01:07] someone just tried a password guess on my ssh port [01:07] * HazRPG likes autocorrect on pidgin [01:07] :/ [01:08] and i noticed because i have system-monitor open, and the process jumped to the top of the list [01:08] I like it to highlight bad spelling [01:08] I tend to turn that off [01:08] however irritating this is when I try to type an equation out e.g. x = why + z [01:08] i need it for getting at my files from outside the house [01:08] I don't mind on my phone, because I really can't type with two thumbs [01:08] i installed fail2ban though. [01:08] it changes the Y to "Why", and the only way to correct is hit backspace to tell it that you meant to type that and then continue from there [01:09] but everywhere else, I preferr to have to think about what I'm typing [01:09] nucc1: non-standard port? [01:09] nah, standard port [01:09] i'm too lazy [01:10] it takes no effort to change :/ [01:10] there's a guy at work that comes off as illiterate, because Lotus doesn't do spelling inline. I'm terrified of ending up like that [01:11] where does ubuntu log ssh logins by default? [01:11] /var/log/auth.log [01:11] i usually do sudo tail /var/log/auth.log [01:12] hmmm [01:12] not located there on this vps [01:12] ls /var/log [01:13] that the cheap one from buyvm? [01:13] yes [01:13] i think all auth messages are logged to that file [01:13] they don't have any syslogd running (or installed) in their default build [01:13] ah, ty [01:13] pam puts everything in auth,log, but it does so via syslog [01:16] they have barely anything running at all. it's actually kinda nice [01:16] I have a backup MX on their $15 plan. I think it's all of 6 processes in 15-20Mb of ram [01:17] i wish i had some booze right now :( [01:17] I like it [01:17] just not using it atm [01:17] :/ [01:18] * nucc1 dozes off [01:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/576240/ this is my idea of a tidy house :) [01:20] I wish the ping for buyvm was lower [01:20] but based in hong kong? [01:20] cron's only there because I like to logrotate [01:20] hk? mine appears to be in fremont, california [01:21] I thhought mine was in the US [01:21] but now if I use it was a tunnel, I get to google.com.hk === Cepheus is now known as Cephacious [01:28] shauno: mine appears to be too [01:28] apart from when I browse the web from it [01:28] 0o [01:28] proxy? [01:30] hm, trace route puts the last hops in mine as palo-alto->fremont. tis convincing [01:30] you're right tho [01:30] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found [01:30] Location: http://www.google.com.hk/ [following] [01:30] wget gets pointed to .hk [01:31] trace route does look good [01:31] is hk better for dodgy dealings? ;) [01:31] and this is correcting my typing. I didn't put a space in traceroute [01:31] I did [01:32] ;/ [01:32] it maybe explains why it is so cheap === Guest83684 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest63614 [01:33] heh, that's funky. geoip puts it in idaho, which makes even less sense. they don't have computers in idaho. [01:34] they have potatoes. [01:34] he.net does have part of its network in hong kong [01:34] you two are just having a far too confusing setup for me to handle [01:34] :D [01:35] I did try using it as a proxy for hulu. hulu liked it, my latency didn't [01:35] it is a vps with sshd ;/ [01:35] it's in hong kong, California and Idaho [01:35] he.net also have part of their network in london. and paris. they're not small :) [01:35] yeh, looking at the map [01:36] daftykins: trying to figure out where the vps are physically hosted [01:36] but basing it on the fact we get vps dirt cheap... [01:36] hk springs to mind [01:36] :D [01:36] really? insane property prices / population density? [01:36] two kids to a shauno / hamitron VPS bed [01:36] :D [01:36] that's not where I would put warehouse-sized hist farms [01:37] host [01:37] what about in a cave just outside? [01:37] ;) [01:37] there's not much 'outside' [01:38] right, gotta sleep [01:38] ttfn all o/ [01:38] nn dafty [01:38] night daffy [01:38] <3 [01:38] my main grudge is the ping [01:38] I was playing with the idea of using it for interactive stuff [01:38] ditto [01:39] I was curious if it's just because they pack the "cheap as dirt" plans in like sardines [01:39] but never felt enticed to try any of their other plans. not throwing good money after bad [01:39] I like the service tbh [01:40] just gives me something if I need it [01:40] the price is right for a failover MX [01:40] the latency means that's about all I'll use it for [01:41] for everything else, I'll stick with bitfolk :) [01:42] getting 150ms on mine [01:42] to google in the uk [01:42] 25ms to google if I use their dns [01:44] 220ms from here [01:44] :/ [01:46] 2-300ms for ping, but I've taken much longer than that to establish connections with them most times [01:46] yeh [01:46] I may write a quick tcp server/client and log the real time [01:47] not at 2am though [01:47] :) [01:47] :o) [01:47] have you found yours stable? [01:48] yeah, but it doesn't really do much :) [01:49] I've been tempted to tunnel a load of stuff through it [01:49] just so I am using it [01:50] but dunno :/ [01:50] I tried. adding 3 seconds onto every http connection wasn't good for my blood pressure. [01:50] haha [01:50] gonna try it now [01:51] and it's not just the time it takes to establish a connection. hulu was unstreamable [01:51]